The Oldest Living Civil War Widow http://www.appalachianlife.com/stories.htm Desoto Joe/The Record Man
Hello All, Something interesting that pertains to the Civil War, perhaps not directly to Missouri, is the "Meade Collection" auction that will soon take place on December 12, 2002. While perusing Ebay, I found General Meade's "Vellum commission issued to George G. Meade for rank of Major General, United States Army to date from August 18, 1864.. signed in ink by Abraham Lincoln as President and Edwin Stanton as Secretary of War. Document is dated February 2, 1865. Document is accompanied by it's original japanned tin commission tube with gold painted title of contents. Commission is in near mint condition with strong signatures." Another item up for auction is the General's original baptismal certificate from Cadiz, Spain. Apparently the Meade family is auctioning off a number of items that belonged to the General and his son, Colonel George G. Meade. Here are some listings from the auction company that will be selling the items, which can be found at: http://www.alderferauction.com/calendar.asp?pageid=det&dwhen=12/12/2002&id=354 The Meade Collection to be auctioned on December 12, 2002 This large collection details the military and personal lives of General George Gordon Meade, "The Hero of Gettysburg", and his son George Meade Jr.. These items have remained in the possession of direct descendants of the Meade family for over a century and represent one of the largest related archives not held by a government or private institution. Items will include: Meades brigadier generals commission for services rendered at Gettysburg, other signed Lincoln commissions to Meade and his son, various documents, historical autographs and correspondence. Photography including CDVs of various Civil War officers (some signed); large format photographs of the General, his staff, reunions, monument dedications; and family related views. Artifacts including two general officers sashes, buttons, two pennons from the 6th PA Cavalry as well as other insignia, medals, & family related items. Books including Gettysburg related texts, regimental histories, Meade & Civil War related volumes (some with ink presentations to family members). A unique opportunity for the scholar, historian, collector, or investor to acquire an historically significant piece of Civil War history. For more information call Alderfers at 215-393-3000. Catalogs available for $25, price list included. Auction Location - Alderfer Auction Center, 501 Fairgrounds Road, Hatfield, PA. 30 minutes from Philadelphia. Two auctioneers selling simultaneously. "General George G. Meade/Col. George G. Meade Collection: Historically Important- General Meades commission as Brigadier General dating from July 3, 1863 (Gettysburg) signed by Lincoln, General Meades Major General commission signed by Lincoln, sons commissions (signed by Lincoln and Johnson). Relics- 2-yellow/gold general officers sashes, uniform accouterments of son, 2 pinion flags for lances of the 6th Penna. Cavalry. Letters and Ephemera- Letter from General Meade concerning the wounding of his horse "Old Baldy", letter from Col. Charles P. Stone requesting his own execution, collection of letters by noted Civil War officers regarding sons book "Did General Meade Desire to Retreat at Gettysburg", General Meades original baptismal certificate from Cadiz Spain, other military related letters. Photography- Lg. collection of CDVs (some signed) & unmounted albumins of military officers, lg. format photography inc. CW period & monument dedications. Books- Lg. collection ! of books from Meade family library with many related to Gettysburg." View information at www.alderferauction.com or Bid online at www.ebayliveauctions.com Interesting stuff. K.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Harlow" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 8:26 AM Subject: [MO-CW] Illinois men who served in CSA units of other States > Am looking for Illinois men that served in any Confederate unit of any > State. Any takers? > 15th Tennessee Volunteer Infantry - Company G The Confederate Army's Southern Illinois Company http://www.illinoiscivilwar.org/cwtn15g.html http://www.guildpress.com/civil_war_books2.htm Desoto Joe/The Record Man
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 4:07 AM Subject: [MO-CW] Company B, Ford's Battalion, MO Cavalry? > Five of my Gleghorn ancestors fought for Arkansas CSA units (10th > Cavalry and 27th Infantry) but I have now determined that they also > served in Ford's Battalion, Co. B, Missouri Cavalry. Does anyone have > information about Ford's Battalion? I am trying to determine why they > would join up with Missouri units after serving with Arkansas units for > so long. Were their Arkansas units consolidated with Ford's Battalion > late in the war? > Ford's Battalion Missouri Cavalry CSA Commanded by Lt. Col. Barney Ford and Maj. Enoch O. Wolf. http://www.missouridivision-scv.org/ Go here & check the unit rosters. This little-known battalion was organized on August 27, 1864. The battalion officers were Lieutenant-Colonel Barney Ford and Major Enoch O. Wolf. It appears to have been organized specifically for Major-General Sterling Price 's Missouri Campaign of September and October 1864. It was assigned to Freeman's Brigade, Marmaduke's Division, Cavalry Corps, of Price's "Army of Missouri." It may have been disbanded after the campaign in December, 1864. The roster of at least one company of Ford's cavalry battalion has survived-that of Capt. J. V. Richardson's Company C. This company was composed primarily of Jackson County men, many of whom had previously served in the 32nd Arkansas Infantry. http://www.couchgenweb.com/civilwar/fordscoc.html Desoto Joe/The Record Man
Bill to Help Save Civil War Battlefields http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/01/politics/01BATT.html?ex=1039323600&en=008bbb59c603b5e8&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE Desoto Joe/The Record Man
Last Confederate veteran honored again http://www.thetandd.com/articles/2002/12/02/news/news1.txt Desoto Joe/The Record Man
Recent Discovery Reveals Route Of Confederates On Way To Battle Of Pea Ridge http://www.nwaonline.net/276448693285743.bsp Desoto Joe/The Record Man
Vanderbilt professor's essay angers Confederate heritage groups http://www.nola.com/newsflash/louisiana/index.ssf?/newsflash/get_story.ssf?/cgi-free/getstory_ssf.cgi?n2838_BC_TN--Vanderbilt-Confed&&news&newsflash-louisiana Desoto Joe/The Record Man
DE SOTO WEEKLY FACTS De Soto, Jefferson, Missouri 5 MARCH 1896 Gen. Madison MILLER, a venerable and respected citizen of St. Louis, and one of the most prominent members of the G.A.R. in that city, died suddenly and alone in the bath room of his home at 4248 Maffitt avenue, Thursday afternoon. There was no one in the house at the time and the body was not discovered until an hour after the General's death. The family physician, Dr. MAGOON, pronounced the cause of death apoplexy. Gen. MILLER was a brother-in-law of Mr. L.J. RANKIN of this city and had a great many friends here. The funeral took place Sunday and was largely attended. Several of our citizens were in attendance. Sent in by Charlotte M. Maness Desoto Joe/The Record Man
Five of my Gleghorn ancestors fought for Arkansas CSA units (10th Cavalry and 27th Infantry) but I have now determined that they also served in Ford's Battalion, Co. B, Missouri Cavalry. Does anyone have information about Ford's Battalion? I am trying to determine why they would join up with Missouri units after serving with Arkansas units for so long. Were their Arkansas units consolidated with Ford's Battalion late in the war?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Molly Gardner" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 6:48 PM Subject: [MO-CW] Claiborne's Rangers > I am new to this list and asking for a bit of help. Can anyone tell me if the following unit was from Missiouri or made up of MO men? > 7th Confederate Cavalry, Company H, Claiborne's Regiment, Partisan Rangers. This unit brok up July 1864 and assigned to other regiments in GA and NC. I want to order the file from NARA, but wanted to be sure this was a Missouri unit first. > Thanks, > Molly > This unit was made up of men from many states but was broken up & melted into other units. ( From the best I can tell ) I have seen it in the 10th Georgia Cavalry, Co. E. still being listed as Claiborne's Regiment, Partisan Rangers. I have seen Georgia men in this & I perhaps some Texans, so there may be Missouri men in it. I have not seen the NARA info, so I could not tell you what is in it. Desoto Joe/The Record Man
----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 5:44 AM Subject: [MO-CW] Hunter's Co. Mo. Mil. > Good morning: > > > > While researching one our ancestors, we found a request for s pension based > on service in "Hunter's Co. Mo. Mil." which I take to stand for Hunter's > Company Missouri Militia. > > So far I have mot been able to find any info on that company. Anyone with > any ideas? > > Paul in Orlando. > There was a Hunter's Regiment Missouri Cavalry CSA. http://www.missouridivision-scv.org/ First Chickasaw Infantry (Hunter's Regiment, Indian Volunteers) CSA I came across this: Duncan, Johnson F.; Hunter's Co. MO Mil. (Miscl.); 1890 Aug. 28, Invalid Appl. #970429, no cert., Iowa. (MAD: ? 1850 Andrew Co. MO census; 1860 Atchison Co. MO census) Atchison is in the Northwest corner of our state. Try poking around here: http://www.rootsweb.com/~moatchis/atchison.html?sourceid=0022846411628498637 2 Desoto Joe/The Record Man
Hello All, Located at: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=742648756 is, in the words of the seller, "Private John Kelley of Co. "A" 1st MO. Cav. was captured at Little Rock Ark. Apr. 5/65 in hands of Enemy at Fort Tyler-Texas to May 1/65 when exchanged. Handwritten letter on Treasury Department letterhead, Second Auditors Office, August 11, 1866. 8X9 3/4", line paper, folds, light aging, stain at top, margin piece missing. Also another document of Pvt. John Kelley stating "No Record of pays while prisoner of war. Dated Paymaster Generals Office, Washington, July 13th, 1866. 5 X 8", line paper, fold, aging, stain at top, left corner margin piece missing. With photocopy of document found with Pvt. Kelly papers that states he was Captured may 1, 1865 at Little Missouri Ark. April 5, 1864." Hope this soldier has a family looking for him. K.
I am new to this list and asking for a bit of help. Can anyone tell me if the following unit was from Missiouri or made up of MO men? 7th Confederate Cavalry, Company H, Claiborne's Regiment, Partisan Rangers. This unit brok up July 1864 and assigned to other regiments in GA and NC. I want to order the file from NARA, but wanted to be sure this was a Missouri unit first. Thanks, Molly
Good morning: While researching one our ancestors, we found a request for s pension based on service in "Hunter's Co. Mo. Mil." which I take to stand for Hunter's Company Missouri Militia. So far I have mot been able to find any info on that company. Anyone with any ideas? Paul in Orlando.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Alice M. Kam" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 10:43 PM Subject: [MO-CW] RADKE Lorenz; 2nd Missouri L. Art'y > Can anyone help with this? The Civil War CD lists a Lorenz RADKE as > fighting with the 2nd Missouri L. Art'y for the Union (I'm assuming Army), > Company I as a pvt. My g-g-grandfather's name is Lorenz Radke, but he was > in Indiana at the time of the Civil War and his tombstone has Navy written > on it. Number 1, would the referenced record definitely be Army, or could > it be Navy? Number 2, was it possible for men to volunteer/enlist from one > state and end up fighting with another state? Number 3, would it have been > feasible for a volunteer/enlisted man to change from Army to Navy while > fighting the Civil War? > > I'm trying to find the muster in and out roll for my g-g grandfather but am > having trouble finding where to write for a copy of the record. > > Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. > > Alice Kam > [email protected] > > This man might just be another who was graced with your ancestor's name, it has happened before, or the record could be wrong on that CD, that has also occurred. Or, the info on the headstone might be incorrect, this too has been the case of others. As for men joining up & fighting for other states, this occurred quite frequently. Men from Missouri have started out in a Missouri unit, but were melted into an Ohio unit, just to use as an example. Men from Illinois fought in Missouri units as well as other states. Men also joined other branches of the service after serving in one. They did this for many reasons. The answer to question 1 is this. Battery "I", 2nd Regiment Light Artillery (Union) Organized at St. Louis, Mo., January, 1862. Attached to District of St. Louis, Mo., Dept. Missouri, to September, 1863. Transferred to New Battery "C" September 29, 1863. Reorganized at Springfield, Mo., December 28, 1863. Attached to District Southwest Missouri, Dept. Missouri, to December, 1864. 3rd Brigade, 1st Division (Detachment), Army Tennessee, Dept. of the Cumberland, to March, 1865. 3rd Sub-District, District Middle Tennessee, Dept. Cumberland, to June, 1865. District of St. Louis, Mo., Dept, Missouri, to August, 1865. SERVICE.--Duty in the District of St. Louis until April, 1864. Expedition from New Madrid, Mo., and skirmishes in swamps of Little River near Osceola and on Pemiscott Bayou April 5-9, 1864. Duty in Southwest Missouri until October. Ordered to Paducah, Ky., November 10, thence to Nashville, Tenn. Battle of Nashville December 15-16. Duty in District of Nashville until March, 1865, and in District of Middle Tennessee until June. Ordered to St. Louis, Mo., and duty there until August. Mustered out August 23, 1865. Battery "C", 2nd Regiment Light Artillery (Union) Organized at St. Louis January, 1862. Attached to District of St. Louis, Mo., Dept. Missouri, to September, 1862. District Rolla, Dept. Missouri, to February, 1863. District St. Louis, Mo., Dept. Missouri, to September, 1863. Reorganized from Batteries "H" and "I" September 29, 1863. District St. Louis, Mo., Dept. Missouri, to August, 1864. District North Missouri, Dept. Missouri, to June, 1865. District Plains, Dept. Missouri, to December, 1865. SERVICE.--Duty at Hartsville, Cape Girardeau and in District of St. Louis, until May 8, 1864. Ordered to St. Louis May 8. One section returned to Cape Girardeau May 23, 1864. One section at St. Joseph, Mo., and one section at Warrensburg, Mo., until October, 1864. Ordered to Jefferson City, Mo., October. Defense of Jefferson City against Price's attack October 7-8. Moved to Booneville, thence to Glasgow and to Macon City, arriving November 5 (1 Section). Duty at Macon City and Cape Girardeau until June, 1865. Ordered to St. Louis June 1. Equipped as Cavalry. Moved to Omaha, Neb., June 11-20. Powder River Expedition. March to Powder River and Fort Connor July 11-September 20. Actions on Powder River September 2-8. Mustered out December 20, 1865. I would start by investigating the information on the tombstone first. For more info on tracking down records, take a peek here, http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/tools.htm Assuming this man is the one you seek, he could have started out in I company & transferred to C company & the reference to the Navy could very well be associated with their last bit of action on the Powder River. This is just an assumption on my part. I know a man who searched for about three years for his relative, based on an obit that stated the man's unit. He contacted the Government about his records & none existed for the man associated with the unit. After finally tracking down the grave, he found another unit etched on the stone & it was the true unit. He was then able to get his ancestors records. The man is listed here: http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/Personz_Detail.cfm?PER_NBR=5180049 This site may be of interest to you: http://civilwarindiana.com/ This may help as well: http://www.oz.net/~cyndihow/pensions.htm Desoto Joe/The Record Man
----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 7:30 PM Subject: [MO-CW] A question.. > Can anyone tell me if this > Hilterbrand, Samuel No Dates CO K 16 MO Cav > is the Sam Hilderbrand ? He is buried at Henson Hilltop Cemetery in Carter > County. > > Thanks for any information you can provide. > > Jan Baldenweck > This is another, not the famous Sam. I talked to a woman last year, who is a direct descendant of Sam & knows his true burial location. I tried to persuade her to show me the location & talked about erecting a monument, but she refused. There are still people who are descendants of those who opposed him that she is afraid they would desecrate the grave. That & souvenir hunters. She told me he whole story of how they brought him back to Missouri & disguised his grave. She claims that the spot that is thought of as his grave is really not, it was spread around as such, to confuse his enemies. I believe her & promised that I would never divulge her name, because she does not want any publicity & certainly does not want his grave marked. As a matter of fact, I would have to look through my many stacks of correspondence from people, to find her number again. She has never called me back after that conversation. Believe me, I truly tried to get her to allow a marker erected, but she believes he is at peace & wanted it this way. Desoto Joe/The Record Man
Can anyone help with this? The Civil War CD lists a Lorenz RADKE as fighting with the 2nd Missouri L. Art'y for the Union (I'm assuming Army), Company I as a pvt. My g-g-grandfather's name is Lorenz Radke, but he was in Indiana at the time of the Civil War and his tombstone has Navy written on it. Number 1, would the referenced record definitely be Army, or could it be Navy? Number 2, was it possible for men to volunteer/enlist from one state and end up fighting with another state? Number 3, would it have been feasible for a volunteer/enlisted man to change from Army to Navy while fighting the Civil War? I'm trying to find the muster in and out roll for my g-g grandfather but am having trouble finding where to write for a copy of the record. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Alice Kam [email protected]
Can anyone tell me if this Hilterbrand, Samuel No Dates CO K 16 MO Cav is the Sam Hilderbrand ? He is buried at Henson Hilltop Cemetery in Carter County. Thanks for any information you can provide. Jan Baldenweck
I am seeking information on Dallas Johnson (Federal) at Pilot Knob. I need a unit. And if possible a brief history of such. Think You. Gary Parkin