Ral thanks for return message. Know rules are different in all places. Think In Iowa the County is responsible. But I agree that All graves should be kept up and not lost in time. June ----- Original Message ----- From: RAL <RLash@worldnet.att.net> To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 11:38 PM Subject: Re: [MO-CEM] Re: Cemetery disrepair > JUNE: > > I should have added a little moreto my last email. > > The person in charge of the cemetery has to request a work party of prisoners > it is not aotomatic. But that would be a good idea. That's why I mentioned the courts, th Judge > could sentence someone to 30, 60 or what ever of cemetery clean up. > > later ral > > June Kline wrote: > > > Ral - must not be the same all over Oregon. Last summer we were in Medford > > and there is a cemetery there by a highly traveled road that looks terrible. > > I asked about it and was told NO ONE wanted to claim it. Maybe you can > > report it to police. There are several stones in the cemetery and will soon > > be gone if something is not done. Had brush and sticks and weeds all over. > > Thanks. June > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: RAL <RLash@worldnet.att.net> > > To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 7:58 PM > > Subject: Re: [MO-CEM] Re: Cemetery disrepair > > > > > Hi: > > > > > > Listers: > > > > > > Has any one thought of contacting the police or local Sheriff??? > > > > > > Here in Portland Oregon the prisons go on work details to the Pioneer > > Cemeteries > > > every so often and do clean up. Also what about the Courts?? > > > > > > People are sentenced to so much community service for certain crimes. > > > > > > Hope this might help. > > > > > > Robin > > > > > > > > > Kathleen O'Brien-Blair wrote: > > > > > > > Hmmm, good thought, though, if there were a church I'd be inclined to > > try to > > > > save and restore it. You can always rent it out for weddings and make a > > > > little money to help restore and maintain the graveyard.... > > > > > > > > Kathleen > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Howard Gadberry <gadberry@sound.net> > > > > To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 2:20 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [MO-CEM] Re: Cemetery disrepair > > > > > > > > > Marilyn and List Members--- > > > > > Don't despair! Abandoned cemeteries can be restored! > > > > > > > > > > I recently visited the Harmony Cemetery six miles east of Miami MO. > > > > > This small cemetery formerly sat beside a Presbyterian church of the > > > > > same > > > > > name. In the "History of Saline County, Missouri" (page 39) the > > > > > abandoned > > > > > cemetery is described as "In bad condition, overgrown with brush and > > > > > weeds > > > > > - hard to get into. The church building is also in bad condition. > > Most > > > > > stones > > > > > are in good state, and can be read." > > > > > > > > > > Imagine my surprise to find the cemetery neat and clean as if new! > > There > > > > > was > > > > > a new Metal sign reading "Harmony Cemetery - Established 1878" > > > > > The church building had been removed leaving no trace. New trees had > > > > > been > > > > > planted, and stone benches installed at the corners. It took a lot of > > > > > effort and > > > > > time to restore that place. > > > > > > > > > > But the stingiest thing is -- I can not find out who was responsible > > for > > > > > the great > > > > > job of cleanup. Was it the County? Or the Saline Historical Society? > > > > > Or some > > > > > church from Slater, Miami, or Marshall? I would like to learn who did > > > > > this job, > > > > > and how they were able to organize the work that obviously was > > required. > > > > > We could learn from them how to clean up other abandoned cemeteries. > > > > > Does anyone out there happen to know about this cleanup? > > > > > Howard Gadberry > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "mfwebber" <mfwebber@email.msn.com> > > > > > To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 12:53 PM > > > > > Subject: [MO-CEM] Re: Cemetery disrepair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > I have tried to recruit family members from MO & KS who I know > > > > > are > > > > > > descendants of a family cemetery in Putnam Co. MO. I have > > received > > > > > some > > > > > > interest in cleaning and repairing the cemetery and also many many > > > > > questions > > > > > > on how to do it. The cemetery is located on private property by a > > > > > fellow > > > > > > who no longer lives in the state. The cemetery is almost totally > > > > > unknown by > > > > > > people who now live in the county. It is overgrown and totally > > hidden > > > > > and > > > > > > contains a Civil War soldier who was my great great grandfather, my > > > > > > gggrandmother, several of their children and grandchildren. I have > > > > > heard or > > > > > > tried the following things and would like some feedback if any one > > > > > else has > > > > > > run into these issues or knows answers to them: > > > > > > I have been told: 1).Once a cemetery is cleaned, sometimes Civil > > war > > > > > > tombstones are stolen and placed on the market for sale. They are > > > > > hard to > > > > > > trace unless close up photos are taken and other photos to prove > > where > > > > > the > > > > > > stones came from. This is especially true if the site is remote. > > 2). > > > > > > There are Civil War groups that are interested in helping identify > > and > > > > > clean > > > > > > cemeteries where former soldiers are buried and they keep the > > > > > information > > > > > > regarding these old sites relatively private to avoid desecration. > > > > > 3). > > > > > > That the land owner can refuse to let repair take place. ( I plan on > > > > > getting > > > > > > copies of the MO laws). > > > > > > I have tried: 1) I called the KC area Veterans Administration to > > > > > find out > > > > > > if there was any group that helped with this type of issue. They > > > > > didn't > > > > > > know. 2) I spoke with the tombstone company in the county and was > > > > > told > > > > > > they really didn't now how to repair old stones. They had no list > > of > > > > > local > > > > > > groups that could help. They suggested I hire local jobless workers > > > > > clean > > > > > > the site. > > > > > > Any ideas or comments would be appreciated. I would really like to > > > > > clean > > > > > > and repair my ancestors family cemetery. 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