This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------BB0A13FFA918E6FA7F297728 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------BB0A13FFA918E6FA7F297728 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <3A841D50.1E2A115@jscomm.net> Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 10:39:46 -0600 From: "Fred D. Edens" <fredee66@jscomm.net> Reply-To: fredee66@jscomm.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pat Short <pashort@rectec.net> Subject: Re: [MO-CEM] Cemeteries in disrepair References: <200102090814.CAA25798@mail.rectec.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pat, I talked with the pastor of the Ritchey Holines Church. He stated that he would love to see the old cem. cleaned up. But the cem. doesn't belong to the church. He stated that he thought that it was on private property. He said the cem. was 10 ft. on the other side of the church's boundry line. He said that he hadn't heard any stories about the cem. He thinks that it is an old family cem. and he also thinks that there is only about 2 or 3 graves there. He said that he has been in there and that it needs cleaned up bad. He gave me a name of an elderly lady from his church that has lived in Ritchey all her life and said to call her because she could probably tell me the name of the cem. and maybe even know of some of the people buried there. Her line was busy so I'm gonna try her later. I bet it is an old family cem. usually the way that they name them is to find the oldest stone and whatever the name is like John Doe then it would be the Doe family cem. but maybe I can find obits. on the people buried there then we'll know the name of it. Fred D. Edens Pat Short wrote: > Fred > > They are hard to find because of all the brush, we found the dunne or dunn > and Moller. > Most of the stone are laying on the ground. > Let me know what you find out tomorrow. This may turn out to a pretty good > mystery. > I want to know what they are trying to hide. you do know there is another > cemetery in > Ritchey kind of across the road from the Church it is on privet property > but they man > will let you go and look you just have to ask. > Let me hear from you all, on what you find out. > Pat > The server is not going down until 2:00, I just looked at the e-mail > message again. > Pat > > ---------- > > From: Fred D. Edens <fredee66@jscomm.net> > > To: Pat Short <pashort@rectec.net> > > Subject: Re: [MO-CEM] Cemeteries in disrepair > > Date: Friday, February 09, 2001 12:51 AM > > > > Pat, > > I was thinking if I could get some of the names on the tombstones and > death > > dates. I could go to the Newton Co. Library and look through the papers > in that > > year and if they have the obits. They would tell the name of the cem. > > I don't know, if it isn't to bad tomorrow. After I talk to the pastor, my > wife > > and I may go over to Ritchey and see about going through the cem. But if > my > > wife and I have bad vibes about going through it. We'll come on home. > I'm not > > endangering my family. > > I believe a lot of times that, that gut wrenching feeling is God telling > us to > > tuck tail and get out of there. > > > > Fred D. > > > > Pat Short wrote: > > > > > Fred > > > They may have sold the land to someone and are worried about getting in > > > trouble. Because of the > > > cemetery. I still want to know as much about the cemetery as we can > find > > > out. If they have the names of the people buried there that would be > > > something to ask about. > > > Those graves were over 100 years, old it just makes me sick to think of > > > that history being lost for ever. > > > I wonder if any of the funeral homes may know about it. That will be > > > someone to ask if these fall through. > > > > > > When We talked to the men across from the church they said there is a > man > > > in Ritchey that has all the history in a book and that we could ask him > > > about it. I dont know what his name is. He may know the name of the > people > > > buried there. My great-grandfather farmed there in Ritchey he died in > 1925 > > > an > > > his wife in 1930 John Griffith Mauller and Anna Matilda Mauller. My > > > grandfather Vernon Mauller and > > > My great uncles were born in Ritchey. > > > > > > I have to get off here before long our server is shutting down for > repairs > > > at 100. > > > I cant wait to find out. If any thing these is a very interesting > mystery. > > > Pat > > > ---------- > > > > From: Fred D. Edens <fredee66@jscomm.net> > > > > To: Pat Short <pashort@rectec.net> > > > > Subject: Re: [MO-CEM] Cemeteries in disrepair > > > > Date: Friday, February 09, 2001 12:12 AM > > > > > > > > Yes, I live about 4 or 5 miles from Ritchey. I know what your talking > > > about > > > > when I was talking to the pastor's wife and she acted so strange. I > > > started > > > > getting a queezy feeling in my tummy. I wonder if there isn't a meth > lab > > > around > > > > the woods somewhere. My friend told me that there is alway helicoper > > > flying > > > > around over there. > > > > In Sept. 1936 my g-g- grandfather Grant Lafayette Edens rented a room > > > over > > > > there in Ritchey and he mysterily fell from a two window the papers > say > > > that he > > > > mistoke his window for a bed and fell through it. Some of my g-aunts > & > > > uncle > > > > believe that he was shoved. Maybe when I visit with the pastor in the > > > morning, > > > > He can shed some light. I can't believe that's it's not on my Newton > Co., > > > Cem. > > > > map. > > > > I'll keep everyone informed about what he says. At this point if he > says, > > > "No". > > > > I'm ready not to persue it any longer. Unless the police is there. > > > > > > > > Fred D. Edens > > > > > > > > Pat Short wrote: > > > > > > > > > Fred > > > > > > > > > > I may be wrong but I think there is something funny going on. My > > > husband > > > > > and I were scared > > > > > when we where there. We only looked at two markers a Dunn or Dunne > And > > > a > > > > > Moller, I wish > > > > > I had brought some paper that day, You would never know there was a > > > > > cemetery there. > > > > > The old lady is the one who told us about it and the man across > from > > > the > > > > > Holiness church. > > > > > I would not want to go there unless there was a lot of people with > us > > > all. > > > > > Kind of reminds me of some of those horror movies I have seen in > the > > > past. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for calling, Do you live near there? > > > > > Pat > > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > > > > > From: Fred D. Edens <fredee66@jscomm.net> > > > > > > To: Pat Short <pashort@rectec.net> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [MO-CEM] Cemeteries in disrepair > > > > > > Date: Thursday, February 08, 2001 7:38 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Pat, > > > > > > I called Bob about the cem. at the Holiness Church in Ritchey, > Mo. He > > > > > sounded > > > > > > funny when I told him that we wanted to clean up the cem. Bob > gave me > > > the > > > > > > pastors name and number. So I called the pastor's house. His wife > > > > > answered and > > > > > > I ask to talk to him. Well he's out of town but she told me to > call > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > morning. So I better leave myself a note. But she wanted to know > if > > > she > > > > > could > > > > > > help me. When I told her what I wanted. She got real silent on > me. I > > > > > asked if > > > > > > the church owned the cem. She said, "I don't know you'll have to > ask > > > my > > > > > > husband." I asked if she knew the name of it and she said, "No, > > > you'll > > > > > have > > > > > > to ask my husband. I haven't ever been up there and I'm not." It > > > kinda > > > > > gives > > > > > > me the heebee jeebees. Well any way I'll call the pastor tomorrow > and > > > > > we'll go > > > > > > from there, I guess. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fred D. Edens > > > > > > > > > > > > Pat Short wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fred > > > > > > > Would you find out if the Holiness Church owns the Cemetery, if > so > > > do > > > > > they > > > > > > > have the name of the > > > > > > > people who are buried there. IF not do they know the name of > the > > > person > > > > > or > > > > > > > persons who own it. > > > > > > > Could they ask the people of the church if they know who owns > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is some of the question I was wanting to know. I was the > one > > > who > > > > > went > > > > > > > to this cemetery a year ago and saw the graves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Pat Short > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > > > > > > > From: Fred D. Edens <fredee66@jscomm.net> > > > > > > > > To: MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [MO-CEM] Cemeteries in disrepair > > > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 9:57 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure I'll talk to him. Now what all do I need to ask him. > I'ave > > > got > > > > > on > > > > > > > bits and pieces of this > > > > > > > > discussion. Bob was my bus driver for about 10 years. Give me > > > some > > > > > ideas > > > > > > > > if you all would think that it would help, my family and I > will > > > visit > > > > > the > > > > > > > Holiness Church Sunday > > > > > > > > morning and I'll ask several people from the church. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fred D. Edens > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Victoria wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Fred and List, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well if you do some what know him then you would be the > perfect > > > > > person > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > call him. I was thinking about this earlier and it would > > > really > > > > > > > benefit the > > > > > > > > > state to get involved because genealogy does bring people > to > > > > > different > > > > > > > > > states......i.e.......money spent in states by people that > come > > > > > from > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > states to search for family. What are others ideas on > this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Best Regards > > > > > > > > > Victoria Brittain Allen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > From: Fred D. Edens <fredee66@jscomm.net> > > > > > > > > > To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 11:06 PM > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [MO-CEM] Cemeteries in disrepair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you want to talk with someone about the cem. in Newton > > > Co., > > > > > > > Ritchey, > > > > > > > > > Mo. near the Holiness Church. You need to talk to Robert > (Bob) > > > N. > > > > > > > Randolph. > > > > > > > > > He attends and some preaches there. He is a very nice man. > He > > > use > > > > > to > > > > > > > drive a > > > > > > > > > bus and teach at the Granby Elem. School. I think that his > wife > > > > > still > > > > > > > does. > > > > > > > > > I won't give out his number but you can look it up. He has > a > > > > > Granby, > > > > > > > Mo. > > > > > > > > > number but is address is Ritchey. I know that he will help > > > > > > > > > > with any information or will know who to ask. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fred D. Edens > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Becky Quinn wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List: > > > > > > > > > > > We might want to send email about this to local > geneology > > > > > > > societies, > > > > > > > > > state archivist, county archivist and Missouri libraries. > We > > > might > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > want to send this idea to some other MO lists. In the > > > Ghosttown > > > > > list, > > > > > > > > > cemetaries gets talked about quite a bit. I know several > > > > > cemetaries on > > > > > > > > > private property in Dallas County that need serious work. > It > > > > > sounds > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > the cemetary in Richey at the Holiness church could use > some > > > help > > > > > also. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those of us who have experience with cemetary > restoration > > > it > > > > > might > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > helpful for us to write a "how-to" article to distribute to > > > > > potential > > > > > > > > > volunteers. Youth groups, especially "service learning > groups" > > > at > > > > > > > schools > > > > > > > > > probably would be much more apt to volunteer if they knew > > > > > knowledgeable > > > > > > > > > adults would be leading and teaching during these cleanups. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Becky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > List problems? 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