Another thought: Drug labs and Marajuana fields abound in the Ozarks. Check with the county sheriff before you start out just to be safe. ----- Original Message ----- From: Becky Quinn To: MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 11:56 PM Subject: Re: [MO-CEM] Cemeteries disrepair Dad looked at my outline for cleaning up old cemetaries and he added the following: 1. Take bee sting antecdote. 2..Don't take small kids and those who have to be watched. 3. Make sure you know the emergency call number for that county. 4. Cleanup crews with non-retired people in them usually go on Saturday and documentary crews who are often retired go during the week. Documentary crews also go on holidays like president's day. If you take school students, they sometimes prefer to go on holidays. If you can get volunteers at senior centers they will go early in the morning when it is cool but often you need to transport them. 5. After you have your data completed for your database talk, to area residents and try to find out more information about each subject buried in the site. Remember: The time is running out. See if a local newspaper will cover your findings for posterity's sake 6. Find family members of interred folks and get them interested for caring for the sight. Get additional history from them. Time is running out. Seek their financial support if they are fiscally able to assist., Thanks Becky ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathleen O'Brien-Blair To: MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 10:47 PM Subject: Re: [MO-CEM] Cemeteries disrepair Good idea NOrma. As for the copperheads, that's what they make .38's and snake-shot for.... :) Kathleen ----- Original Message ----- From: norma ortiz <notiz_1999@yahoo.com> To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 7:50 PM Subject: [MO-CEM] Cemeteries disrepair > A lot of people living out of state and still get home > town papers might like to contribute to the up keep > and/or repair if your local papers wrote an artical > once in awhile informing which cemetery was being > worked on,also while the work was being done the > cemetery could be recorded,and out of staters might be > encourged to pass on info on the burials of family > members in those cemeteries to berecorded,I know some > havebeen recorded,but when it`s too over grown alot > get missed, another thing,is you might get some hardy > fellows to go out now while it`s cold and cut out the > big stuff, nothing can cut down on awork crew than a > few encounters with a copperhead. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kburnet@efortress.com > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > ============================== > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > If you know how to reduce these risks. > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the Missouri Cemetery list, use MO-CEMETERIES-l-request@rootsweb.com or MO-CEMETERIES-d-request@rootsweb.com if you are on the Digest list. To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm ============================== Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kburnet@efortress.com To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm ============================== Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Dad looked at my outline for cleaning up old cemetaries and he added the following: 1. Take bee sting antecdote. 2..Don't take small kids and those who have to be watched. 3. Make sure you know the emergency call number for that county. 4. Cleanup crews with non-retired people in them usually go on Saturday and documentary crews who are often retired go during the week. Documentary crews also go on holidays like president's day. If you take school students, they sometimes prefer to go on holidays. If you can get volunteers at senior centers they will go early in the morning when it is cool but often you need to transport them. 5. After you have your data completed for your database talk, to area residents and try to find out more information about each subject buried in the site. Remember: The time is running out. See if a local newspaper will cover your findings for posterity's sake 6. Find family members of interred folks and get them interested for caring for the sight. Get additional history from them. Time is running out. Seek their financial support if they are fiscally able to assist., Thanks Becky ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathleen O'Brien-Blair To: MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 10:47 PM Subject: Re: [MO-CEM] Cemeteries disrepair Good idea NOrma. As for the copperheads, that's what they make .38's and snake-shot for.... :) Kathleen ----- Original Message ----- From: norma ortiz <notiz_1999@yahoo.com> To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 7:50 PM Subject: [MO-CEM] Cemeteries disrepair > A lot of people living out of state and still get home > town papers might like to contribute to the up keep > and/or repair if your local papers wrote an artical > once in awhile informing which cemetery was being > worked on,also while the work was being done the > cemetery could be recorded,and out of staters might be > encourged to pass on info on the burials of family > members in those cemeteries to berecorded,I know some > havebeen recorded,but when it`s too over grown alot > get missed, another thing,is you might get some hardy > fellows to go out now while it`s cold and cut out the > big stuff, nothing can cut down on awork crew than a > few encounters with a copperhead. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kburnet@efortress.com > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > ============================== > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > If you know how to reduce these risks. > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the Missouri Cemetery list, use MO-CEMETERIES-l-request@rootsweb.com or MO-CEMETERIES-d-request@rootsweb.com if you are on the Digest list. To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm ============================== Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com

Good idea NOrma. As for the copperheads, that's what they make .38's and snake-shot for.... :) Kathleen ----- Original Message ----- From: norma ortiz <notiz_1999@yahoo.com> To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 7:50 PM Subject: [MO-CEM] Cemeteries disrepair > A lot of people living out of state and still get home > town papers might like to contribute to the up keep > and/or repair if your local papers wrote an artical > once in awhile informing which cemetery was being > worked on,also while the work was being done the > cemetery could be recorded,and out of staters might be > encourged to pass on info on the burials of family > members in those cemeteries to berecorded,I know some > havebeen recorded,but when it`s too over grown alot > get missed, another thing,is you might get some hardy > fellows to go out now while it`s cold and cut out the > big stuff, nothing can cut down on awork crew than a > few encounters with a copperhead. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kburnet@efortress.com > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > ============================== > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > If you know how to reduce these risks. > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html >

Where can I purchase the book "History of Saline Co.? MVG

JUNE: I should have added a little moreto my last email. The person in charge of the cemetery has to request a work party of prisoners it is not aotomatic. But that would be a good idea. That's why I mentioned the courts, th Judge could sentence someone to 30, 60 or what ever of cemetery clean up. later ral June Kline wrote: > Ral - must not be the same all over Oregon. Last summer we were in Medford > and there is a cemetery there by a highly traveled road that looks terrible. > I asked about it and was told NO ONE wanted to claim it. Maybe you can > report it to police. There are several stones in the cemetery and will soon > be gone if something is not done. Had brush and sticks and weeds all over. > Thanks. June > ----- Original Message ----- > From: RAL <RLash@worldnet.att.net> > To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 7:58 PM > Subject: Re: [MO-CEM] Re: Cemetery disrepair > > > Hi: > > > > Listers: > > > > Has any one thought of contacting the police or local Sheriff??? > > > > Here in Portland Oregon the prisons go on work details to the Pioneer > Cemeteries > > every so often and do clean up. Also what about the Courts?? > > > > People are sentenced to so much community service for certain crimes. > > > > Hope this might help. > > > > Robin > > > > > > Kathleen O'Brien-Blair wrote: > > > > > Hmmm, good thought, though, if there were a church I'd be inclined to > try to > > > save and restore it. You can always rent it out for weddings and make a > > > little money to help restore and maintain the graveyard.... > > > > > > Kathleen > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Howard Gadberry <gadberry@sound.net> > > > To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 2:20 PM > > > Subject: Re: [MO-CEM] Re: Cemetery disrepair > > > > > > > Marilyn and List Members--- > > > > Don't despair! Abandoned cemeteries can be restored! > > > > > > > > I recently visited the Harmony Cemetery six miles east of Miami MO. > > > > This small cemetery formerly sat beside a Presbyterian church of the > > > > same > > > > name. In the "History of Saline County, Missouri" (page 39) the > > > > abandoned > > > > cemetery is described as "In bad condition, overgrown with brush and > > > > weeds > > > > - hard to get into. The church building is also in bad condition. > Most > > > > stones > > > > are in good state, and can be read." > > > > > > > > Imagine my surprise to find the cemetery neat and clean as if new! > There > > > > was > > > > a new Metal sign reading "Harmony Cemetery - Established 1878" > > > > The church building had been removed leaving no trace. New trees had > > > > been > > > > planted, and stone benches installed at the corners. It took a lot of > > > > effort and > > > > time to restore that place. > > > > > > > > But the stingiest thing is -- I can not find out who was responsible > for > > > > the great > > > > job of cleanup. Was it the County? Or the Saline Historical Society? > > > > Or some > > > > church from Slater, Miami, or Marshall? I would like to learn who did > > > > this job, > > > > and how they were able to organize the work that obviously was > required. > > > > We could learn from them how to clean up other abandoned cemeteries. > > > > Does anyone out there happen to know about this cleanup? > > > > Howard Gadberry > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "mfwebber" <mfwebber@email.msn.com> > > > > To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 12:53 PM > > > > Subject: [MO-CEM] Re: Cemetery disrepair > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > I have tried to recruit family members from MO & KS who I know > > > > are > > > > > descendants of a family cemetery in Putnam Co. MO. I have > received > > > > some > > > > > interest in cleaning and repairing the cemetery and also many many > > > > questions > > > > > on how to do it. The cemetery is located on private property by a > > > > fellow > > > > > who no longer lives in the state. The cemetery is almost totally > > > > unknown by > > > > > people who now live in the county. It is overgrown and totally > hidden > > > > and > > > > > contains a Civil War soldier who was my great great grandfather, my > > > > > gggrandmother, several of their children and grandchildren. I have > > > > heard or > > > > > tried the following things and would like some feedback if any one > > > > else has > > > > > run into these issues or knows answers to them: > > > > > I have been told: 1).Once a cemetery is cleaned, sometimes Civil > war > > > > > tombstones are stolen and placed on the market for sale. They are > > > > hard to > > > > > trace unless close up photos are taken and other photos to prove > where > > > > the > > > > > stones came from. This is especially true if the site is remote. > 2). > > > > > There are Civil War groups that are interested in helping identify > and > > > > clean > > > > > cemeteries where former soldiers are buried and they keep the > > > > information > > > > > regarding these old sites relatively private to avoid desecration. > > > > 3). > > > > > That the land owner can refuse to let repair take place. ( I plan on > > > > getting > > > > > copies of the MO laws). > > > > > I have tried: 1) I called the KC area Veterans Administration to > > > > find out > > > > > if there was any group that helped with this type of issue. They > > > > didn't > > > > > know. 2) I spoke with the tombstone company in the county and was > > > > told > > > > > they really didn't now how to repair old stones. They had no list > of > > > > local > > > > > groups that could help. They suggested I hire local jobless workers > > > > clean > > > > > the site. > > > > > Any ideas or comments would be appreciated. I would really like to > > > > clean > > > > > and repair my ancestors family cemetery. Marilyn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > > > > > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > > > > > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > > > > > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > > > > > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > > > > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > > > > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > > > political > > > > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, > flames, > > > > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for > > > removal. > > > > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett > > > kburnet@efortress.com > > > > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > > > > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > > > > > > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > > > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the Missouri Cemetery > list, use > > > MO-CEMETERIES-l-request@rootsweb.com or > MO-CEMETERIES-d-request@rootsweb.com if > > > you are on the Digest list. > > > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > > > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > > > > > ============================== > > > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > > > If you know how to reduce these risks. > > > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html > > > > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the Missouri Cemetery > list, use > > MO-CEMETERIES-l-request@rootsweb.com or > MO-CEMETERIES-d-request@rootsweb.com if > > you are on the Digest list. > > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > > > ============================== > > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > > your heritage! > > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > ============================== > Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/

I apologize to the list for the off topic. Howard, I read you had the History of Saline Co., MO book. I was wondering if you'd mind doing a look up in it? I am looking for any Adkison/Adkinson's in the bootheal of Missouri. Maybe you could e-mail me personally at lobdell@tir.com Thanks, Carol in MI Researching surnames Wood, NC,TN,MO; Whitehead, SC,MS,AL,MO; Taylor, NC,TN,MO; Guest, GA,IL,MI; Adkison, MO,MI; Hutchison. KY,IL,MO,MI

Ginny, Someone may have already have him registered as a Veteran, you might want to check first. Carol Researching surnames Wood, NC,TN,MO; Whitehead, SC,MS,AL,MO; Taylor, NC,TN,MO; Guest, GA,IL,MI; Adkison, MO,MI; Hutchison. KY,IL,MO,MI

Marilyn, please let me know about the cemtery in Putnam Co. I'm in Mercer County and have relatives/ancestors buried in Putnam County. Write to me off the list if you'd like -- maybe we have information to exchange. Mary Hart -----Original Message----- From: mfwebber <mfwebber@email.msn.com> To: MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, February 08, 2001 1:00 PM Subject: [MO-CEM] Re: Cemetery disrepair >Dear List members, > I have tried to recruit family members from MO & KS who I know are >descendants of a family cemetery in Putnam Co. MO. I have received some >interest in cleaning and repairing the cemetery and also many many questions >on how to do it. The cemetery is located on private property by a fellow >who no longer lives in the state. The cemetery is almost totally unknown by >people who now live in the county. It is overgrown and totally hidden and >contains a Civil War soldier who was my great great grandfather, my >gggrandmother, several of their children and grandchildren. I have heard or >tried the following things and would like some feedback if any one else has >run into these issues or knows answers to them: >I have been told: 1).Once a cemetery is cleaned, sometimes Civil war >tombstones are stolen and placed on the market for sale. They are hard to >trace unless close up photos are taken and other photos to prove where the >stones came from. This is especially true if the site is remote. 2). >There are Civil War groups that are interested in helping identify and clean >cemeteries where former soldiers are buried and they keep the information >regarding these old sites relatively private to avoid desecration. 3). >That the land owner can refuse to let repair take place. ( I plan on getting >copies of the MO laws). >I have tried: 1) I called the KC area Veterans Administration to find out >if there was any group that helped with this type of issue. They didn't >know. 2) I spoke with the tombstone company in the county and was told >they really didn't now how to repair old stones. They had no list of local >groups that could help. They suggested I hire local jobless workers clean >the site. >Any ideas or comments would be appreciated. I would really like to clean >and repair my ancestors family cemetery. Marilyn > > >==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== >Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; >http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html >To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett >Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > >============================== >Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! >http://searches.rootsweb.com/ >

When my third great grandfathers stone was replaced it wasn't a military stone either but once his service was proved they were still happy to put it in place and so far as I know at no cost to the family., The SAR paid for mounting it in Concrete and had a nice service too. I would call and talk to the VA in the mean time but remind me in March to get in touch with the friends (Myron and Barb Jones) for you. Good luck. Ginny

Ral - must not be the same all over Oregon. Last summer we were in Medford and there is a cemetery there by a highly traveled road that looks terrible. I asked about it and was told NO ONE wanted to claim it. Maybe you can report it to police. There are several stones in the cemetery and will soon be gone if something is not done. Had brush and sticks and weeds all over. Thanks. June ----- Original Message ----- From: RAL <RLash@worldnet.att.net> To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [MO-CEM] Re: Cemetery disrepair > Hi: > > Listers: > > Has any one thought of contacting the police or local Sheriff??? > > Here in Portland Oregon the prisons go on work details to the Pioneer Cemeteries > every so often and do clean up. Also what about the Courts?? > > People are sentenced to so much community service for certain crimes. > > Hope this might help. > > Robin > > > Kathleen O'Brien-Blair wrote: > > > Hmmm, good thought, though, if there were a church I'd be inclined to try to > > save and restore it. You can always rent it out for weddings and make a > > little money to help restore and maintain the graveyard.... > > > > Kathleen > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Howard Gadberry <gadberry@sound.net> > > To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 2:20 PM > > Subject: Re: [MO-CEM] Re: Cemetery disrepair > > > > > Marilyn and List Members--- > > > Don't despair! Abandoned cemeteries can be restored! > > > > > > I recently visited the Harmony Cemetery six miles east of Miami MO. > > > This small cemetery formerly sat beside a Presbyterian church of the > > > same > > > name. In the "History of Saline County, Missouri" (page 39) the > > > abandoned > > > cemetery is described as "In bad condition, overgrown with brush and > > > weeds > > > - hard to get into. The church building is also in bad condition. Most > > > stones > > > are in good state, and can be read." > > > > > > Imagine my surprise to find the cemetery neat and clean as if new! There > > > was > > > a new Metal sign reading "Harmony Cemetery - Established 1878" > > > The church building had been removed leaving no trace. New trees had > > > been > > > planted, and stone benches installed at the corners. It took a lot of > > > effort and > > > time to restore that place. > > > > > > But the stingiest thing is -- I can not find out who was responsible for > > > the great > > > job of cleanup. Was it the County? Or the Saline Historical Society? > > > Or some > > > church from Slater, Miami, or Marshall? I would like to learn who did > > > this job, > > > and how they were able to organize the work that obviously was required. > > > We could learn from them how to clean up other abandoned cemeteries. > > > Does anyone out there happen to know about this cleanup? > > > Howard Gadberry > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "mfwebber" <mfwebber@email.msn.com> > > > To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 12:53 PM > > > Subject: [MO-CEM] Re: Cemetery disrepair > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > I have tried to recruit family members from MO & KS who I know > > > are > > > > descendants of a family cemetery in Putnam Co. MO. I have received > > > some > > > > interest in cleaning and repairing the cemetery and also many many > > > questions > > > > on how to do it. The cemetery is located on private property by a > > > fellow > > > > who no longer lives in the state. The cemetery is almost totally > > > unknown by > > > > people who now live in the county. It is overgrown and totally hidden > > > and > > > > contains a Civil War soldier who was my great great grandfather, my > > > > gggrandmother, several of their children and grandchildren. I have > > > heard or > > > > tried the following things and would like some feedback if any one > > > else has > > > > run into these issues or knows answers to them: > > > > I have been told: 1).Once a cemetery is cleaned, sometimes Civil war > > > > tombstones are stolen and placed on the market for sale. They are > > > hard to > > > > trace unless close up photos are taken and other photos to prove where > > > the > > > > stones came from. This is especially true if the site is remote. 2). > > > > There are Civil War groups that are interested in helping identify and > > > clean > > > > cemeteries where former soldiers are buried and they keep the > > > information > > > > regarding these old sites relatively private to avoid desecration. > > > 3). > > > > That the land owner can refuse to let repair take place. ( I plan on > > > getting > > > > copies of the MO laws). > > > > I have tried: 1) I called the KC area Veterans Administration to > > > find out > > > > if there was any group that helped with this type of issue. They > > > didn't > > > > know. 2) I spoke with the tombstone company in the county and was > > > told > > > > they really didn't now how to repair old stones. They had no list of > > > local > > > > groups that could help. They suggested I hire local jobless workers > > > clean > > > > the site. > > > > Any ideas or comments would be appreciated. I would really like to > > > clean > > > > and repair my ancestors family cemetery. 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At the Newtonia Cem. there was a couple of men that metal holders for the tombstones there. They made it wide enough that the old fashion tombstones that stand upright would slip right through the metal and it holds the tombstones together where they can be read. Fred D. Kathleen O'Brien-Blair wrote: > I wonder if it wouldn't be possible for a *skilled* craftsman to > reconstitute broken markers with thin iron dowels and some kind of > rock-crete/fiberglass kinda stuff. That is, if it couldn't be replicated > instead. > > Kathleen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: B. Warner <bkwofc@i1.net> > To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 6:00 PM > Subject: Re: [MO-CEM] Cemetery disrepair > > > Ginny > > Thanks for the information. How hard is it to get documentation? I have > > his birth date, from his tombstone, but not much else in the way of > > supporting documentation. Is there a database at ancerstry.com or > somewhere > > that I could run his name through? I'll try to remember to get back with > > you in March. The stone he has now is not an official military stone, so > > we wouldn't be talking about a "replacement". The stone he has now is, > > however, getting to the point of being illegible and it's broken off and > > laying on the ground so something needs to be done. I just wish the darn > > things weren't so expensive! > > > > Bettye > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <LethaH@aol.com> > > To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 5:26 PM > > Subject: Re: [MO-CEM] Cemetery disrepair > > > > > > > Yes, markers can be ordered. I would check with the SAR (Sons of the > > > American Revolution) for who handles the War of 1812. The stone can > also > > be > > > replaced at no cost if it is becoming illedgible. Friends of mine do > this > > in > > > Southern OH and if you will remind me in March I will contact them for > > you. > > > They are on vacation till then. > > > Ginny > > > > > > > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > > > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the Missouri Cemetery > > list, use > > > MO-CEMETERIES-l-request@rootsweb.com or > > MO-CEMETERIES-d-request@rootsweb.com if > > > you are on the Digest list. > > > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > > > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > > > > > ============================== > > > 9 Health Tips for Computer Genealogists > > > http://www.thirdage.com/features/tech/ouch/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kburnet@efortress.com > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > ============================== > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > If you know how to reduce these risks. > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html

I wonder if it wouldn't be possible for a *skilled* craftsman to reconstitute broken markers with thin iron dowels and some kind of rock-crete/fiberglass kinda stuff. That is, if it couldn't be replicated instead. Kathleen ----- Original Message ----- From: B. Warner <bkwofc@i1.net> To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [MO-CEM] Cemetery disrepair > Ginny > Thanks for the information. How hard is it to get documentation? I have > his birth date, from his tombstone, but not much else in the way of > supporting documentation. Is there a database at ancerstry.com or somewhere > that I could run his name through? I'll try to remember to get back with > you in March. The stone he has now is not an official military stone, so > we wouldn't be talking about a "replacement". The stone he has now is, > however, getting to the point of being illegible and it's broken off and > laying on the ground so something needs to be done. I just wish the darn > things weren't so expensive! > > Bettye > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <LethaH@aol.com> > To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 5:26 PM > Subject: Re: [MO-CEM] Cemetery disrepair > > > > Yes, markers can be ordered. I would check with the SAR (Sons of the > > American Revolution) for who handles the War of 1812. The stone can also > be > > replaced at no cost if it is becoming illedgible. Friends of mine do this > in > > Southern OH and if you will remind me in March I will contact them for > you. > > They are on vacation till then. > > Ginny > > > > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the Missouri Cemetery > list, use > > MO-CEMETERIES-l-request@rootsweb.com or > MO-CEMETERIES-d-request@rootsweb.com if > > you are on the Digest list. > > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > > > ============================== > > 9 Health Tips for Computer Genealogists > > http://www.thirdage.com/features/tech/ouch/ > > > > > > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

It's not only youth groups that need the how to article. I could use it myself as there are several old family cemeteries I know of that need work. Vicki

Yes, markers can be ordered. I would check with the SAR (Sons of the American Revolution) for who handles the War of 1812. The stone can also be replaced at no cost if it is becoming illedgible. Friends of mine do this in Southern OH and if you will remind me in March I will contact them for you. They are on vacation till then. Ginny

I am no expert I have refurbished a couple and take care of my ancestors plots at 5 country cemetaries and 3 city cemetaries in Springfield. If I can find some time this weekend I jot down some suggestions from my experiences including needed tools, cleaning supplies and safety equipment. Becky ----- Original Message ----- From: Cintrfire810@cs.com To: MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [MO-CEM] Cemeteries in disrepair It's not only youth groups that need the how to article. I could use it myself as there are several old family cemeteries I know of that need work. Vicki ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== List problems? Contact the MO-Cemeteries List Mom <kburnet@efortress.com> Use Kathleen as the subject line for your post To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm ============================== Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! http://searches.rootsweb.com/

Here is the site that explains this hoax. It has been around for a long time. http://www.urbanlegends.com/ulz/emailtax.html Charles

Ginny Thanks for the information. How hard is it to get documentation? I have his birth date, from his tombstone, but not much else in the way of supporting documentation. Is there a database at ancerstry.com or somewhere that I could run his name through? I'll try to remember to get back with you in March. The stone he has now is not an official military stone, so we wouldn't be talking about a "replacement". The stone he has now is, however, getting to the point of being illegible and it's broken off and laying on the ground so something needs to be done. I just wish the darn things weren't so expensive! Bettye ----- Original Message ----- From: <LethaH@aol.com> To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [MO-CEM] Cemetery disrepair > Yes, markers can be ordered. I would check with the SAR (Sons of the > American Revolution) for who handles the War of 1812. The stone can also be > replaced at no cost if it is becoming illedgible. Friends of mine do this in > Southern OH and if you will remind me in March I will contact them for you. > They are on vacation till then. > Ginny > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the Missouri Cemetery list, use > MO-CEMETERIES-l-request@rootsweb.com or MO-CEMETERIES-d-request@rootsweb.com if > you are on the Digest list. > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > ============================== > 9 Health Tips for Computer Genealogists > http://www.thirdage.com/features/tech/ouch/ > >

Hi: Listers: Has any one thought of contacting the police or local Sheriff??? Here in Portland Oregon the prisons go on work details to the Pioneer Cemeteries every so often and do clean up. Also what about the Courts?? People are sentenced to so much community service for certain crimes. Hope this might help. Robin Kathleen O'Brien-Blair wrote: > Hmmm, good thought, though, if there were a church I'd be inclined to try to > save and restore it. You can always rent it out for weddings and make a > little money to help restore and maintain the graveyard.... > > Kathleen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Howard Gadberry <gadberry@sound.net> > To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 2:20 PM > Subject: Re: [MO-CEM] Re: Cemetery disrepair > > > Marilyn and List Members--- > > Don't despair! Abandoned cemeteries can be restored! > > > > I recently visited the Harmony Cemetery six miles east of Miami MO. > > This small cemetery formerly sat beside a Presbyterian church of the > > same > > name. In the "History of Saline County, Missouri" (page 39) the > > abandoned > > cemetery is described as "In bad condition, overgrown with brush and > > weeds > > - hard to get into. The church building is also in bad condition. Most > > stones > > are in good state, and can be read." > > > > Imagine my surprise to find the cemetery neat and clean as if new! There > > was > > a new Metal sign reading "Harmony Cemetery - Established 1878" > > The church building had been removed leaving no trace. New trees had > > been > > planted, and stone benches installed at the corners. It took a lot of > > effort and > > time to restore that place. > > > > But the stingiest thing is -- I can not find out who was responsible for > > the great > > job of cleanup. Was it the County? Or the Saline Historical Society? > > Or some > > church from Slater, Miami, or Marshall? I would like to learn who did > > this job, > > and how they were able to organize the work that obviously was required. > > We could learn from them how to clean up other abandoned cemeteries. > > Does anyone out there happen to know about this cleanup? > > Howard Gadberry > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "mfwebber" <mfwebber@email.msn.com> > > To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 12:53 PM > > Subject: [MO-CEM] Re: Cemetery disrepair > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > I have tried to recruit family members from MO & KS who I know > > are > > > descendants of a family cemetery in Putnam Co. MO. I have received > > some > > > interest in cleaning and repairing the cemetery and also many many > > questions > > > on how to do it. The cemetery is located on private property by a > > fellow > > > who no longer lives in the state. The cemetery is almost totally > > unknown by > > > people who now live in the county. It is overgrown and totally hidden > > and > > > contains a Civil War soldier who was my great great grandfather, my > > > gggrandmother, several of their children and grandchildren. I have > > heard or > > > tried the following things and would like some feedback if any one > > else has > > > run into these issues or knows answers to them: > > > I have been told: 1).Once a cemetery is cleaned, sometimes Civil war > > > tombstones are stolen and placed on the market for sale. They are > > hard to > > > trace unless close up photos are taken and other photos to prove where > > the > > > stones came from. This is especially true if the site is remote. 2). > > > There are Civil War groups that are interested in helping identify and > > clean > > > cemeteries where former soldiers are buried and they keep the > > information > > > regarding these old sites relatively private to avoid desecration. > > 3). > > > That the land owner can refuse to let repair take place. ( I plan on > > getting > > > copies of the MO laws). > > > I have tried: 1) I called the KC area Veterans Administration to > > find out > > > if there was any group that helped with this type of issue. They > > didn't > > > know. 2) I spoke with the tombstone company in the county and was > > told > > > they really didn't now how to repair old stones. They had no list of > > local > > > groups that could help. They suggested I hire local jobless workers > > clean > > > the site. > > > Any ideas or comments would be appreciated. I would really like to > > clean > > > and repair my ancestors family cemetery. Marilyn > > > > > > > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > > > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > > > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > > > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > > > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > > > > > ============================== > > > Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > political > > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for > removal. > > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett > kburnet@efortress.com > > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > > > ============================== > > Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the Missouri Cemetery list, use > MO-CEMETERIES-l-request@rootsweb.com or MO-CEMETERIES-d-request@rootsweb.com if > you are on the Digest list. > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > ============================== > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > If you know how to reduce these risks. > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html

A lot of people living out of state and still get home town papers might like to contribute to the up keep and/or repair if your local papers wrote an artical once in awhile informing which cemetery was being worked on,also while the work was being done the cemetery could be recorded,and out of staters might be encourged to pass on info on the burials of family members in those cemeteries to berecorded,I know some havebeen recorded,but when it`s too over grown alot get missed, another thing,is you might get some hardy fellows to go out now while it`s cold and cut out the big stuff, nothing can cut down on awork crew than a few encounters with a copperhead. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

I have replaced complete headstones. When I did I kept the original and have it out at the farm. I made sure the replacement was exactly the same as the orginal. When a Stone breaks at the base and only is engraved on one side, I have had success (as well as others) in placing the headstone in a slab of concrete over the grave so that it is level with the ground and can be mowed over. You will have to talk to the cemetary committee or manager to see if there are any covenants against that method. I do know that many large public and private cemetaries do have covenants against that method. I have seen some really bad repair jobs out there. Show respect to your ancestor. Try to replace one if at all possible. ----- Original Message ----- From: mfwebber To: MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 12:53 PM Subject: [MO-CEM] Re: Cemetery disrepair Dear List members, I have tried to recruit family members from MO & KS who I know are descendants of a family cemetery in Putnam Co. MO. I have received some interest in cleaning and repairing the cemetery and also many many questions on how to do it. The cemetery is located on private property by a fellow who no longer lives in the state. The cemetery is almost totally unknown by people who now live in the county. It is overgrown and totally hidden and contains a Civil War soldier who was my great great grandfather, my gggrandmother, several of their children and grandchildren. I have heard or tried the following things and would like some feedback if any one else has run into these issues or knows answers to them: I have been told: 1).Once a cemetery is cleaned, sometimes Civil war tombstones are stolen and placed on the market for sale. They are hard to trace unless close up photos are taken and other photos to prove where the stones came from. This is especially true if the site is remote. 2). There are Civil War groups that are interested in helping identify and clean cemeteries where former soldiers are buried and they keep the information regarding these old sites relatively private to avoid desecration. 3). That the land owner can refuse to let repair take place. ( I plan on getting copies of the MO laws). I have tried: 1) I called the KC area Veterans Administration to find out if there was any group that helped with this type of issue. They didn't know. 2) I spoke with the tombstone company in the county and was told they really didn't now how to repair old stones. They had no list of local groups that could help. They suggested I hire local jobless workers clean the site. Any ideas or comments would be appreciated. I would really like to clean and repair my ancestors family cemetery. Marilyn ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm ============================== Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! http://searches.rootsweb.com/