Ummm, I'm seeing a lot of unsubscribes all of a sudden...I really hope we aren't running off people, because if we are, I want to find a way to repair those relationships. As I see it, prowling old cemeteries and rescuing them from decay is a very important part of geneaology. You just never know who you'll find where or to whom that information might be important. I certainly think that looking up graves for folks is *just* as important and I never intended to marginalise those interests when I suggested a cemetery rescue project. I thought it was just a natural extension.... I'm feeling uncomfortable here..... List Mom? Kathleen

If we are going to be looking at cemeteries around Jasper County, I know of several that already have pictures. Take a look at Gem, Bradshaw-Kahn, Alexander at http://www.cableone.net/rslewis/cemeteries.htm This would give us a starting point as to cemetery pictures. I will start a place on this page for just pictures for us to look at. I will try to work on that today. Renessa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen O'Brien-Blair" <ktho@kc.rr.com> To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [MO-CEM] Choosing a cemetery > > We could also take pictures of the potential cemeteries and post them > online so everyone could look at what we are up against. I have a site just > for pictures so I would be willing to post them and that would keep them > centralized. > > Good idea. > > I'm thinking that for the first project, we ought to start in an area where > there are several people close - that is within easy driving - of the > cemetery. It looks to me like that should be SW Missouri around Joplin, > Springfield, Newton County - somewhere that area. By my count we have five > people - possibly six - in that area. Is this what everybody else counts > too? In otherwods, I'm looking at how many poeple - not how many > cemeteries.... What is everybody else seeing? > > I dont' know how close Dunca, OK is to that are - if it is an easy jaunt up > 44 or not. > > What do y'all think? > > Kathleen > > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kburnet@efortress.com > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > ============================== > Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

Don't you mean SW Mo.? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen O'Brien-Blair" <ktho@kc.rr.com> To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [MO-CEM] Cemeteries in disrepair > Thanks Ranessa for this list. At first glance it looks like we have four > people in SE MO - two around Joplin, one in Springfield and one in Newton > County. > > Is this correct? > > Kathleen > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Renessa Lewis <GenMom@cableone.net> > To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 1:57 PM > Subject: [MO-CEM] Cemeteries in disrepair > > > > Here's where everyone is from so far... If you haven't said yet, please > do! > > > > Gladys - Arizona > > Kathleen - SE Kansas City > > Renessa - Joplin > > Victoria - Joplin > > Bill - Duncan, OK > > Becky - Springfield > > Fred - Newton Co. > > Judith - Oregon > > Robin - Portland, Oregon > > Mary - Mercer Co. > > Kathie - California > > > > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > > > ============================== > > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > > If you know how to reduce these risks. > > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html > > > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > >

I believe it's the state. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen O'Brien-Blair" <ktho@kc.rr.com> To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [MO-CEM] Cemeteries in disrepair > Is that California the state - or California, MO? > > Kathleen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Renessa Lewis <GenMom@cableone.net> > To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 1:57 PM > Subject: [MO-CEM] Cemeteries in disrepair > > > > Here's where everyone is from so far... If you haven't said yet, please > do! > > > > Gladys - Arizona > > Kathleen - SE Kansas City > > Renessa - Joplin > > Victoria - Joplin > > Bill - Duncan, OK > > Becky - Springfield > > Fred - Newton Co. > > Judith - Oregon > > Robin - Portland, Oregon > > Mary - Mercer Co. > > Kathie - California > > > > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > > > ============================== > > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > > If you know how to reduce these risks. > > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html > > > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kburnet@efortress.com > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > ============================== > Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

Regarding the cost--If each person takes his/her own thermos of coffee, sack lunch, and tools--shovels, hoes, etc. where does the cost come in? Maxine

> We could also take pictures of the potential cemeteries and post them online so everyone could look at what we are up against. I have a site just for pictures so I would be willing to post them and that would keep them centralized. Good idea. I'm thinking that for the first project, we ought to start in an area where there are several people close - that is within easy driving - of the cemetery. It looks to me like that should be SW Missouri around Joplin, Springfield, Newton County - somewhere that area. By my count we have five people - possibly six - in that area. Is this what everybody else counts too? In otherwods, I'm looking at how many poeple - not how many cemeteries.... What is everybody else seeing? I dont' know how close Dunca, OK is to that are - if it is an easy jaunt up 44 or not. What do y'all think? Kathleen

Hello from California, When we cleaned our old family cemetery in Laclede Co., we cautioned everyone to not disturb field rocks or bricks. If people are familiar with old cemeteries, they quite often think everything but the tombstone should be removed. Not so! Also, I have read a lot of old newspapers on microfilm and have learned of people who were buried in the cemetery (but they never had tombstones). And talking to old timers in the area can reveal a lot of information as to who were buried there, as you know. And we found that talking to old timers is a real joy. And we also learned that cleaning a cemetery one year is just the beginning. Those weeds keep popping up. But once it is cleaned, there is so much pride in the workers that they are willing to return. Re unsubscribing--what is the purpose of this list? Isn't is anything and everything concerning cemeteries? One more point: Perhaps the lady who owns the little cemetery near the church would like to deed that land to the county. That will help in the future to protect it. My sister fenced our family cemetery--it too had broken stones from animals rubbing against and walking on them. After we (a group of us) cleaned it, we had it dedicated. And everyone wanted to contribute money to the cost of the cemetery fencing and cost of the memorial stones we had placed there, as well as the memorial stone itself. And the Pastor who handled our dedication told all of us that this is sacred ground and it should be kept clean. The Saturday before the family reunion on Sunday is always clean the cemetery day. Some of us who have grown older can no longer go there and help clean, but we did all we could do in the past. This began in 1988 and is still going on. Maxine in California with roots in Missouri

I am located in Farmington Mo. (60 miles south of St. Louis) and I would be willing to help clean up cemeteries as will. I have enjoyed reading the information everyone has been sharing on cleaning up the cem. I agree it would be nice if more people could take interest in keeping cemeteries up. But if it takes people interested in Genealogy to start it and then it take off from there, then it would be worth it. Going to a cemetery where your love ones are and it be ran down really hurts. Lets see what we all can do together and pass it on down to other generations after us. Cathy in Farmington Mo.

Unsubscribe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven & Gwen Harris" <srhgkh@ionet.net> To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [MO-CEM] Cemeteries in disrepair > While researching my family in Scott County I found the remains of a > cemetery near Deilstadt. All I found were a few Stone bases. The farmer > seemed to have no remorse in that the cemetery was plowed under some 30-40 > years ago. This saddens me since my gg-grandparents were buried there. > > I plan a return trip in March to see what else I can do. > > Steven and Gwen Harris > Stillwater, OK > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kburnet@efortress.com > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2

Is that California the state - or California, MO? Kathleen ----- Original Message ----- From: Renessa Lewis <GenMom@cableone.net> To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 1:57 PM Subject: [MO-CEM] Cemeteries in disrepair > Here's where everyone is from so far... If you haven't said yet, please do! > > Gladys - Arizona > Kathleen - SE Kansas City > Renessa - Joplin > Victoria - Joplin > Bill - Duncan, OK > Becky - Springfield > Fred - Newton Co. > Judith - Oregon > Robin - Portland, Oregon > Mary - Mercer Co. > Kathie - California > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > ============================== > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > If you know how to reduce these risks. > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html >

BTW - how far is Duncan, OK from SE MO? Kathleen ----- Original Message ----- From: Renessa Lewis <GenMom@cableone.net> To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 1:57 PM Subject: [MO-CEM] Cemeteries in disrepair > Here's where everyone is from so far... If you haven't said yet, please do! > > Gladys - Arizona > Kathleen - SE Kansas City > Renessa - Joplin > Victoria - Joplin > Bill - Duncan, OK > Becky - Springfield > Fred - Newton Co. > Judith - Oregon > Robin - Portland, Oregon > Mary - Mercer Co. > Kathie - California > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > ============================== > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > If you know how to reduce these risks. > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html >

I'm live near Bonne Terre in St. Francois County, Missouri. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Renessa Lewis" <GenMom@cableone.net> To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 1:57 PM Subject: [MO-CEM] Cemeteries in disrepair > Here's where everyone is from so far... If you haven't said yet, please do! > > Gladys - Arizona > Kathleen - SE Kansas City > Renessa - Joplin > Victoria - Joplin > Bill - Duncan, OK > Becky - Springfield > Fred - Newton Co. > Judith - Oregon > Robin - Portland, Oregon > Mary - Mercer Co. > Kathie - California > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > ============================== > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > If you know how to reduce these risks. > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html > >

Thanks Ranessa for this list. At first glance it looks like we have four people in SE MO - two around Joplin, one in Springfield and one in Newton County. Is this correct? Kathleen ----- Original Message ----- From: Renessa Lewis <GenMom@cableone.net> To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 1:57 PM Subject: [MO-CEM] Cemeteries in disrepair > Here's where everyone is from so far... If you haven't said yet, please do! > > Gladys - Arizona > Kathleen - SE Kansas City > Renessa - Joplin > Victoria - Joplin > Bill - Duncan, OK > Becky - Springfield > Fred - Newton Co. > Judith - Oregon > Robin - Portland, Oregon > Mary - Mercer Co. > Kathie - California > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > ============================== > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > If you know how to reduce these risks. > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html >

We seem to be off to a good start so far, however, I was thinking. Before we can start trying to get help, we will need to at least choose an area to start finding cemeteries in. And then we can start looking for other volunteers. As I have went back through the emails I have found 3 are in OK 2 in Joplin 1 SE KC 1 SE MO 1 VA 2 in Oregon 1 Springfield 1 Newton Co. 1 Mercer Co. 1 Arizona We could also take pictures of the potential cemeteries and post them online so everyone could look at what we are up against. I have a site just for pictures so I would be willing to post them and that would keep them centralized. Any other ideas? Renessa

I'm interested as well! Renessa ----- Original Message ----- From: <MsNAVALCPO@aol.com> To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 5:34 AM Subject: [MO-CEM] Re: B. Waarner--the lurker =) > In a message dated 2/8/01 5:27:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, > MO-CEMETERIES-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > << It was like being in a shady, lush courtyard. I have pictures if anyone > is interested. > >> > > I'm interested! > > If you can, please send them to cemeterystomper@aol.com > > I'm trying to move all of my genealogy mail to that one. Thanks! > Deb Elam > > More About Me: > <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/msnavalcpo/myhomepage/writing.html">Just Me > and My Thoughts</A> > http://hometown.aol.com/msnavalcpo/myhomepage/writing.html > > ~~Deborah Elam~~ > Sharing the Dream Together > <A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/homeandgarden4u/myhomepage/business.html"> > Designing with Deb's Home and Garden Party</A> > http://hometown.aol.com/homeandgarden4u/myhomepage/business.html > > > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kburnet@efortress.com > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > ============================== > Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

Kathleen, I can only say that sometimes the amount of email this site generates can seem overwhelming at times. I too have thought of unsubscribing in the past for that reason. For example: My computer was down for the past five days and when I finally got into my email late last night the were 136 messages, most of them were from this site. I wonder if it would be possible to somehow set up a chat room for just such times as these when there is a subject of intense interest so that the back and fourth discussion could still happen without clogging all of the list members email. Just an idea. I agree with you though that preserving old cemetaries is something that needs to be paid more attention to, not just in Missouri but everywhere and if some of those members who do live closer together can save even one then this list has acomplished something wonderful. Kathie San Joaquin Co., California ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathleen O'Brien-Blair <ktho@kc.rr.com> To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [MO-CEM] cleaning up cemeteries - people unsubscribing > Ummm, I'm seeing a lot of unsubscribes all of a sudden...I really hope we aren't running off people, because if we are, I want to find a way to repair those relationships. > > As I see it, prowling old cemeteries and rescuing them from decay is a very important part of geneaology. You just never know who you'll find where or to whom that information might be important. > > I certainly think that looking up graves for folks is *just* as important and I never intended to marginalise those interests when I suggested a cemetery rescue project. I thought it was just a natural extension.... > > I'm feeling uncomfortable here..... List Mom? > > Kathleen > > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kburnet@efortress.com > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > ============================== > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > If you know how to reduce these risks. > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html >

While researching my family in Scott County I found the remains of a cemetery near Deilstadt. All I found were a few Stone bases. The farmer seemed to have no remorse in that the cemetery was plowed under some 30-40 years ago. This saddens me since my gg-grandparents were buried there. I plan a return trip in March to see what else I can do. Steven and Gwen Harris Stillwater, OK

Here's where everyone is from so far... If you haven't said yet, please do! Gladys - Arizona Kathleen - SE Kansas City Renessa - Joplin Victoria - Joplin Bill - Duncan, OK Becky - Springfield Fred - Newton Co. Judith - Oregon Robin - Portland, Oregon Mary - Mercer Co. Kathie - California

California State. San Joaquin County ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathleen O'Brien-Blair <ktho@kc.rr.com> To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [MO-CEM] Cemeteries in disrepair > Is that California the state - or California, MO? > > Kathleen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Renessa Lewis <GenMom@cableone.net> > To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 1:57 PM > Subject: [MO-CEM] Cemeteries in disrepair > > > > Here's where everyone is from so far... If you haven't said yet, please > do! > > > > Gladys - Arizona > > Kathleen - SE Kansas City > > Renessa - Joplin > > Victoria - Joplin > > Bill - Duncan, OK > > Becky - Springfield > > Fred - Newton Co. > > Judith - Oregon > > Robin - Portland, Oregon > > Mary - Mercer Co. > > Kathie - California > > > > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > > > ============================== > > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > > If you know how to reduce these risks. > > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html > > > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kburnet@efortress.com > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > ============================== > Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

MVG - The particular book that I mentioned is one of several with that Title. A.H. Orr Editor, "The history of Saline County, Missouri", 1967 Walworth, Marceline MO Another is: Napton, William Buckley - "Past and Present of Saline County, Missouri" B.F. Bowen & Co. Indianapolis Ind., 1910 I don't know whether either of these are still available, bu many libraries, such as our Johnson County Library, and the Mid-Continent Library in Independence Mo. have copies. Possibly the best, (but quite expensive) is: "The History of Saline County, Missouri",published by the Missouri Historical Society of St. Louis, in 1881, and available as a reprint from Genealogy Publishing Company, Baltimore. I think the price is $95, since they print it to order. The List has been privileged in recent months to hear excerpts from this book, sent in by "Dwight & Shelly" dsanders@tacnet.missouri.org . Because this book is so rare, you might ask them to lookup some particular information.. Finally, I hear that the Saline County Historical Society has published a new book in the summer of 2000. I think that the price was $50. The library in Marshall Mo. is said to have a copy, in their reference collection. I have not yet seen this book.. . Hope you can locate a copy! --- Howard ----- Original Message ----- From: <Gallokc@aol.com> To: <MO-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [MO-CEM] "History of Saline County, MO" book > Where can I purchase the book "History of Saline Co.? > > MVG > > > ==== MO-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the Missouri Cemetery list, use > MO-CEMETERIES-l-request@rootsweb.com or MO-CEMETERIES-d-request@rootsweb.com if > you are on the Digest list. > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Vist the Mo-Cemeteries Volunteer and Cemetery List http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocemete/mocem.htm > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > >