You know what? If weren't for the fact that Branson lost to Ozark (Branson ranked #7 in class 4A in MO, Ozark #1) in football tonight (24 Ozark, 21 Branson), it would have been darn close to a perfect day. First of all, it's been a right pretty week in Ozark Mountain Country this week. I mentioned earlier that the trees had changed, virtually overnight, last weekend while we were in Kansas City. Early predictions of fall color claimed there wouldn't be much--but someone forgot to tell the trees. The oaks must have heard, for they're all brown and not pretty at all this year, but the rest of them...well, let's just say the Creator has sent his angels out to play with the watercolor brushes. The sugar maples especially--I can just hear the directions now..."Let's mess with their minds--paint that 3rd branch from the bottom on the left with just a hint of red, the 6th from the top of the right full red inside only...and make the middle itself all light pink." There is no rhyme or reason to the maples' coloring...in a whole row, 2 might be pinkish-red, 1 full green, and the rest varying reds and pinks and greens. I kid you not. My aunt, Ethel Wilson McLemore, and a cousin, Georgina Boswell Cummings, came over this morning to do some genealogy chatting. Georgina, although she doesn't look it, is old enough to remember my gg grandmother, Annis Clinkenbeard Bull, who died in 1945 (and was Georgina's grandmother, through her mother Maggie Bull. My g grandmother Sarah Elizabeth Bull was Maggie's oldest sister). So I got to hear a few stories, but we mostly played catch up on the Bulls and Boswells. Georgina's father was Ralph Boswell. Georgina's husband was a Cummings--I don't remember his first name. But his mother was Edna Bilyeu, his father Phillip Cummings. So Georgina and her husband were distant cousins through the Bilyeus. Edna's grandfather was the son of Jacob and Catherine Elizabeth Williams Bilyeu. Jacob was brother to Elizabeth Louisa Bilyeu Clinkenbeard, and she was Annis Clinkenbeard Bull's grandmother. That's how to get what I call "Clinkenbeard Confused" or "Bilyeu Boggled". <BG> And don't forget, in Taney and surrounding counties, we say "Blue". Bill-you marks you as an outlander, immediately, about like saying "Kissie" for "KUH-zee." The former is as bad is "Bill You". Ideana Lain Hinkle and her mother arrived in Branson early yesterday, and spent time with cousins in the Cupp family. Ideana has been searching for collateral Cupp lines, and visited Cupp/Nash Cemetery with her cousin. The confusion behind the name of the cemetery is this--Sarah Ellen Nash b 1874 Taney Co. MO married William W. Cupp b 1872 IA sometime 1904-1910, but not in Taney county. She was married first to a Warren, and had a son with him in 1904, but by 1910, she's listed in the Taney Census as being William's wife. The cem was land owned by Jeff and Rachel Wilson Nash, Sarah Ellen being their daughter and the first person buried in it. That's how Pama and I are semi-related to Ideana. Anyway, Ideana called me this morning, and we met for lunch. I'm not sure what she thought when she walked into the place--she beat Aunt Ethel, Georgine, and me there--and she probably didn't know what she was getting into, going clean out in the boonies with a van load of women. I'd called Pama to invite her, but she had a family emergency and had to cancel, unfortunately (everything's okay now.) After lunch, we picked up Ingrid Albers, and went up north to Goodnight Holler & Meadows Cemetery. I got kinda tickled, for the roads "Goodnight Hollow Road" and "Round Mountain Drive" meet up near Hwy 176; we'd been chatting by 2-way radio, since Ideana and her mother were following in their car. I'd handed the radio to Ingrid, and after a couple of waves to get it back--she was in the middle seat of the van talking to Ideana--I simply pulled over and got out. Although I knew she was anxious to explore Goodnight Holler, and that was the road to do it on, I wanted to take Round Mountain down Cummings Ridge and into the holler. (The roads meet up again down in the holler, just as you cross Bull Creek on a cement low-water bridge.) I had to get back to town to beat the school bus, but I knew Ideana would be able to explore the other road to her heart's content on the way back. So we took Round Mountain Drive. And a drive it is...I can't tell you how many miles you can see, but that mountain (hill to some of you folks) is one of the highest around, and you can see for many miles from Cummings Ridge. It is soul-comforting at any time, but to see it today, while the trees were at their peak with the famous blue haze hanging over the WRV--well, I'd told Ideana I'd be watching her in my mirror if she wanted to take some pictures. We went less than 500 feet before she stopped and got out...<VBG> and you should have heard her gushing! She lives out in the state of Nevada now, and from what Ingrid tells me and I've read, there ain't a lot in common between the WRV and Nevada. Ideana had told me about crossing Bear Creek yesterday on a couple of concrete slabs--"Just a slab of concrete, no rails or anything!", but I didn't tell her I've seen those slabs under several feet of water before...some folks you have to kinda ease 'em gently into things (I'm teasing). So it was with a bit of trepidation that I approached the cement bridge over Bull Creek. Of course, I had to stop right in the middle--this bridge is more than a slab, but still a low-water bridge with no rails--because the trees downstream were reflecting in the creek waters something beautiful. I took a picture of that, and so did she. She then snapped off a shot of me with upstream in the background, but you know what? I totally forgot, despite telling myself I would do so at the cemetery, to get a picture of her. That's aggravating. I was on the radio, explaining that the dirt road we were on was an old road--"Can you hear the wagons creaking down here?"--as we drove north towards the cemetery. Ideana wanted some pictures of some old cabins and outbuildings, and we passed a good one just down the bench from Meadows Schoolhouse and the Cemetery. When we got to the cem, all 6 of us--me armed with one of the kids' socks left in the van filled with cornstarch "borrowed" from the cafe we ate lunch at (I knew the owners, always helps)--got out and walked around. At this point, Bull Creek Valley is about a 1/2 mile, more or less, wide. The cem sits on a bench of some mountain, about 1/3 of the way up maybe (I'm terrible with distance), on the east side. The floor below is pasture and creek bottoms, and several "hollers" join in the valley just north of Bluff--you can see the "town" from the cem, if you know where to look. There's not much left, but it was right on Bull Creek, I believe, and despite its name, didn't sit on a bluff, but was protected by one outstanding one. The west side of the valley is covered in trees, and the sky is big here. Ideana had mentioned a relatively new grave in Cupp Cemetery yesterday, and asked why someone would want to be buried in such an old, neglected cem. I told her because it was away from "civilization" and traffic, but Hwy 65 is a 4 lane running just feet from it. And Cupp is in much better shape than many cems in the White River Valley. I like Cupp. There is one big active cemetery in Taney County, and there are some 4,000 graves in it. While it is a beautiful place, I don't want to be buried there, and neither does any of my immediate family. Might be a morbid subject, but I like peace and quiet and trees, and the thought that someone might find some of that in a place when they come to see whatever represents me is restful in itself. My family has a bunch of plots down in a corner of Old Branson Cemetery, but I don't even want to be there; that's right on an intersection that is pretty busy, across from a cement plant. Cupp and Meadows both have big old trees which are a rarity in Taney and much of the WRV, due to tie-hacking, pencil factories, and logging in general. Many cems were paced off and had cedars or an evergreen-type of tree planted in the corners to mark them. Most were fenced as well, but fences have a way of coming down over time. That's one way we find old cems around here--the trees. I don't know that I can adequately explain the feeling that we get in these old cems. While at Meadows, we looked for the Cupp and related tombstones, but I noted Ingrid resting in the view of the hills and the simple peace of the place. We were about 10 miles upstream from Walnut Shade, the closest town of any distinction left in the area. It's a feeling similar to what you will get when you come back to visit the White River Valley, or "come home," as I like to say. To know that feeling must be something like what you'll feel when St. Peter opens the gates, or Allah lets you into Paradise, or however you picture heaven to be. To buried in a place that gave you that feeling while you were alive--well, I can only imagine it, but I'd want nothing else. It's almost a longing, that feeling of coming home, and no matter what the afterlife is like, your spirit would have to rest knowing the trees are watching over you. Sure, some say "you won't know, so why should you care?" I don't know, but I do. Ideana's Cupp line never lived in the WRV region--this was a collateral Cupp line. But I'd be willing to bet she was able to answer her own question by the time she left Meadows Cemetery. She took off back up Goodnight Holler Road, and since I didn't get a "Help! I'm lost!" call, I presume she's made it back to her motel for the night. She and her mother, Margie, are leaving tomorrow. I dropped Georgine off at her house--lucky woman, she lives on Cummings Ridge...although I could hear Greg remarking that if he lived there, he'd be chopping down a few trees that had the temerity to grow in place of the view. (And he wasn't even anywhere near us lol) Aunt Ethel, Ingrid and I came on back 19 miles from Meadows Cemetery to my house, and yakked. Aunt Ethel left, and Ingrid and I got to sit and yak some more. After my boys left with their father for the weekend, Greg wasn't home from his job yet, so she and I went up to that big cemetery, which is noted far and wide for its beautiful trees in the fall. After walking for a while, I took her home, and came home again. We took Victoria up to Greg's mom's in Nixa, listening to the football game on the radio; and I even got Chinese for supper. I hope Ideana understands why her Cupps are buried in such a place, now. I hope she gets an understanding of why it's home, even with all the traffic and tourists and noise and construction. Because all that is taking place, mostly, on the west side of the county, around Branson, and much of the rest of the county is remote, with curving roads meandering down ridges and up benches and concrete slabs crossing the creeks that only threaten during high-rain times. Shoot, most of the White River Valley, with the exceptions of areas like Branson, does not require much of an effort to travel in time, seeing what your people saw and how they lived. If it's remote and difficult now, it was much more so then. Ideana was a good example of how different the outside world is; she was also a good example of someone wanting to understand. I learned from my time in Kansas City over the years that it's nothing unusual for folks to drive 30 or more miles--one way--to work, and they drive the freeways and easy roads at high speed. Here, it's nothing unusual for folks to drive the same distance, only down dirt roads and curvy roads, up and down steep hills that wear out a transmission and brakes faster than stop-and-go rush hours. I drove those miles in the city a lot, seeing few trees and hills, looking at buildings and houses and other people and finding no quiet place for the spirit. Some folks thrive on that kind of thing--but some folks don't, and like I did after 8 1/2 years, and like my people did when they left for a while--I came home. Ideana, it was a wonderful day! Vonda Wilson Sheets ListMom for MOTANEY and MO-AR-WRV http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~moarwrv/

It is with great sadness that I send this obit. Lawrence J. Bilyeu, 37, of Walnut Shade, MO. died on Oct 19, 2000. He died from injuries received from automobile accident. Lawrence was a likable guy. He was always friendly and good hearted. He was a life long resident of Walnut Shade, MO. His Bilyeu goes as follows: Descendants of Elzy Bilyeu 1 Elzy BILYEU b: August 3, 1895 d: December 19, 1978 in Christian County, MO. . +Goldie LETTERAL b: September 15, 1901 d: April 26, 1992 in Christian County, MO. . 2 Noah BILYEU ..... 3 James R. BILYEU ......... +Juanita // ........ 4 John BILYEU ........ 4 Lawrence J. BILYEU d: October 19, 2000 in Taney Co., MO. . 2 Willie BILYEU ..... +Freda WEATHERMAN . 2 Melva BILYEU ..... +Earnest GIDEON . 2 Martin BILYEU b: 1893 ..... +Clara GILL . 2 Edna BILYEU ..... +Phillip CUMMINGS . 2 Lee BILYEU . 2 Glen BILYEU **************** Also, Charles "Charlie" Cummings was also killed in the wreck. He was a lifetime resident of Walnut Shade, MO. I am not sure of Charlie's relationship to my family but I shall pin point it down. These 2 young men were both raised in Walnut Shade and were liked by all. They would give you the shirt off their back. Though they were not rich by wealth, they were rich in friends and family and they will be sadly missed. Pama

Hello List, I am back at it again.::heehee, crossin my eyeballs.:: I am trying to come up with new info on my Nash line. I start with: John NASH b: 1804 in VA. he married Elizabeth HODGES b: 1808 they had the following children. 1 William H. NASH b: 1841 2 John M. NASH b: 1829 3 Mary NASH b: 1832 4 Rachael NASH b: 1834 5 Margaret NASH b: 1837 +James G. NIX 6 Henry C. NASH b: 1845 +Malisa HAYES *2nd Wife of [1] Henry C. NASH: +Mary Ann "Polly" BRUMLEY b: 1842 in MISSOURI d: 1922 in Taney Co., MO. Father: James Madison BRUMLEY Mother: Diannah BILYEU 7 Thomas Jefferson NASH b: February 1847 in Rhea County, TN. d: November 21, 1919 in Day, MO +Rachel WILSON b: February 1858 in ILL. d: 1947 in Taney, MO Father: David William WILSON Mother: Catherine Ann BRANT In the 1850 Census this is their family. John Nash 46, born in Va, Betsy 42, John M 21, Mary 18, Rachael 16, Margaret 13, William H 9, Henry C 5, and Thomas J 3 years old. Any of these names look familiar to any of you. Any information on any of these people would be greatly appreciated. Surnames for my family are Nash, Bilyeu, Myers, Faulk, Wilson, Larkins and several others. Just love to find new family. Warmest Smiles, Pama Lynn Nash

Okay, After a couple of gray-hair-causing incidents (which included losing the whole website at one point), the WRV site is back up and running. I hope I caught all the broken/re-routed links, but I wouldn't bet money on it at this point. I honestly felt my scalp prickling new gray... You can still use the main link http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~moarwrv/ but if you have bookmarked pages within the site, e.g. Taney Co. Marriages, you'll need to re-do them. If anyone finds a broken link, Puh-LEEEZE let me know. I hope I can fix it. I even learned a new program today, called CuteFTP, because my stand-alone wasn't going to do what needed to be done. Busy tomorrow--Ideana's here in Branson! Vonda ListMom for MOTANEY and MO-AR-WRV at Rootsweb

Hello, I was wondering what anyone thought the odds would be of me finding a death certificate from the Taney County courthouse/records for this person: Lucinda Abney (maiden name Beardon, 1st married name Kelley) Death date: June 29, 1908. (Jasper Twp, Taney County) I know the state of Missouri has records from 1910 forward and this one did not quite make the cut. Wondering if any experienced Taney County researchers have found records this old at the county level. And if so, where exactly would I write to try and order this death certificate, costs, etc... Thanks, Diana in MI

Good Morning! The WRV website, thanks to the amateur/newbie webmaster (webignoramus is more like it LOL), is going to need an overhaul in the next month or so--I've got too many pages in the main directory. If you have the main WRV site bookmarked, that won't change. But if you try to access certain pages within the site, you may have trouble finding them if you don't start from the main page. One thing I'm currently have trouble with is that Greg recently updated both my browswers, and neither of them are automatically "Refreshing" or "Reloading" the pages. If you go to a page and I've announced something new that you don't see, click on whichever "refresh" your browser uses, and it should come up. Vonda Wilson Sheets ListMom for MOTANEY and MO-AR-WRV at Rootsweb http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~moarwrv/

Tamara, The best reading I can recommend at this point on the history of Taney County is Elmo Ingenthron's "Land Of Taney". Unfortunately, you can't buy a copy right now--I've been on waiting lists at 3 bookstores in SW MO now for over a year, hoping a copy will come in and they'll call. The book is out of print. What you can do is order it from the Mid-Continental Library Interloan system, if you have a library near you that can access it. Different libraries have different policies on whether you can actually check out some out-of-print books. What I can tell you is that farming was the predominant industry in Taney County, period, for many years. There were water-powered mills on the creeks as well, but of course, only a few people worked at those. The tie-hacking that started when the railroads began coming in around the turn of the 20th century became a good way for folks to make money. Chadwick, if I remember right, was just north of Swan Twp, and was a major center for the ties. Chadwick also had a railroad sooner than Taney County did, period, for it was at the end of a different line. Other parts of Taney, which didn't yet have access to the railroad, floated ties down the creeks sometimes, hauled them to gathering places at others. Tomatoes were a big industry, but I don't know if there were any canneries in Swan Twp. On a positive note, some of the Society members are in touch with Elmo Ingenthron's son, and we are hoping that he'll consider re-printing his father's books. Man, I hope so. <<toe kickin' the dirt, slight blush>>Thanks for your nice words! Vonda ListMom for MOTANEY and MO-AR-WRV at Rootsweb http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~moarwrv/

Looking for information on what type of industry, etc. was in Swan Township in the 1870-1900 period? Any books I could reference that described the occupational (and everything)complexion of the area (besides poor). Thanks, Tamara P.S. Vonda - You are an inspiration! I have learned A LOT, in addition to the humor. Keep it up!

Victoria, Thank you for that. I'll check it out. tanimara@townsqr.com ICQ# 16519574 Yahoo Messenger ID Tanimara_2000 Surnames: THOMAS, TOWLES, POPE, BRIDGES, ROBB, HARRINGTON, MOORE, RILEY, PETTY, HARMAN, MADDOX, HILL, BURTCHETT "A people without a history is like wind on the buffalo grass" Crazy Horse - Oglala Sioux "Yigaquu osaniyu adanvto adadoligi nigohilvi nasquv utloyasdi nihi!" ("May the Great Spirit's blessings always be wih you") Cherokee Addresses: Post message: harringtongen@egroups.com Subscribe: harringtongen-subscribe@egroups.com Unsubscribe: harringtongen-unsubscribe@egroups.com List owner: harringtongen-owner@egroups.com URL to this page: http://www.egroups.com/group/harringtongen website for dogs and native heritage http://www.fortunecity.com/greenfield/twyford/461/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Victoria <Flower2@sofnet.com> To: <MO-AR-WRV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [THOMAS] I need information on Slave sites. Research on establishing a site to post info on slaves found in many of our ancestors records. > Jackie, NewspaperAbstracts-L has been putting out artilces along the lines > your looking for for a year now. They would be a good source too. > > Victoria > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jackie <tanimara@townsqr.com> > To: <MO-AR-WRV-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:37 PM > Subject: Fw: [THOMAS] I need information on Slave sites. Research on > establishing a site to post info on slaves found in many of our ancestors > records. > > > > A follow up on recently requested info on a site to post slave info. This > > is exactly what I needed. I hope all of you who decend from slave owners > > and have document nameing slaves will post that info to this site. > > > > Jackie > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Brenda King Finch <kingfinch@hotmail.com> > > To: <THOMAS-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:00 PM > > Subject: Re: [THOMAS] I need information on Slave sites. Research on > > establishing a site to post info on slaves found in many of our ancestors > > records. > > > > > > > Here is a National Collection place for Slave Data: > > > > > > We would certainly encourage and support all researchers to share any > and > > > all slave data you encounter in your genealogical pursuits. We, African > > > Ancestored Researchers (aka: Afrigeneas), have a project of some 9 year > > > duration to gather, compile and make available slave data to the African > > > Ancestored researcher. Records kept by the slaveowner are frequently the > > > only clue to our ancestors, particularly during the period 1619-1870. > > > > > > > > > Records Sought include: > > > > > > Advertisements > > > Apprenticeship > > > Bible Records > > > Bills of Sale > > > Birth Records > > > Census Schedules > > > Church Records > > > Cohabitation > > > Court Records > > > DayBooks/Logs > > > Death Records > > > Diaries-Journals > > > Inventories > > > Legislative Acts > > > Letters > > > Litigation > > > Manumissions > > > Marriage Records > > > Military Records > > > Misc Records > > > Pension Records > > > Plantation Records > > > Run-A-Ways > > > SlaveOwners > > > Slave Sales > > > Tax Records > > > Wills > > > > > > _____________________ > > > > > > Such information provided is available to all researchers at our FTP > site > > > and at the Afrigeneas HomePage. It is also available in the AOL > Genealogy > > > Forum Libraries. > > > > > > > > > What format would we want the data? > > > > > > Well in the final analysis, whatever is best for you, the Sharer. > > > > > > A preferred format follows: > > > > > > > > > Slaveowners Name: > > > Name of Slave: > > > Parent(s) of Slave: > > > BirthPlace of Slave: > > > Age of Slave: > > > Sex of Slave: > > > Color of Slave: > > > Other Physical Description: > > > Other Information: > > > Source Document: > > > State: > > > County: > > > Year of Source Document: > > > How to Access Source Document: > > > > > > ================================ > > > > > > This information may be submitted on line > > > To: slavedata@aol.com > > > or By US Postal Service > > > > > > To: Anniston-Calhoun Public Library > > > Alabama Room-SlaveData Collection > > > Post Office Box 308 > > > Anniston, AL 36202 > > > > > > Browse The Collection As It Builds > > > > > > http://members.aol.com/slavedata/Public/ > > > > > > Thanx for your attention and for your help! > > > > > > Valencia King Nelson > > > National Coordinator > > > > > > > > > Browse AfriGeneas Archived Messages On-Line > > > > > > http://www.msstate.edu/listarchives/afrigeneas/ </fontfamily> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > - African Ancestored Genealogy Discussion > > > - To unsubscribe, email: Majordomo@MsState.Edu > > > - In body of message: unsubscribe afrigeneas > > > - > > > - Afrigeneas archives: http://www.msstate.edu/listarchives/afrigeneas/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > > From: "Jackie" <tanimara@townsqr.com> > > > To: THOMAS-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [THOMAS] I need information on Slave sites. Research on > > > establishing a site to post info on slaves found in many of our > ancestors > > > records. > > > Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 11:13:18 -0500 > > > > > > I have recently been involved in a discussion about how to find > > information > > > on slaves. People that are trying to track their genealogy back to > slaves > > > have limited resources for that information. As a decendant of slave > > > owners, I find listed in the Wills of my ancestors the names of many > > slaves. > > > This information just sets there and I feel it needs to be listed > > > somewhere. Does anyone know of a site that deals with this type of > > > information? (slave research). Specifically a site that lists slave > > names, > > > dates and locations. I feel a responsibility to the decendants of > slaves > > to > > > provide this information as I come across it. If a site is not > available, > > I > > > think one should be and Im thinking about starting one. 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Jackie, NewspaperAbstracts-L has been putting out artilces along the lines your looking for for a year now. They would be a good source too. Victoria ----- Original Message ----- From: Jackie <tanimara@townsqr.com> To: <MO-AR-WRV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 3:37 PM Subject: Fw: [THOMAS] I need information on Slave sites. Research on establishing a site to post info on slaves found in many of our ancestors records. > A follow up on recently requested info on a site to post slave info. This > is exactly what I needed. I hope all of you who decend from slave owners > and have document nameing slaves will post that info to this site. > > Jackie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brenda King Finch <kingfinch@hotmail.com> > To: <THOMAS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:00 PM > Subject: Re: [THOMAS] I need information on Slave sites. Research on > establishing a site to post info on slaves found in many of our ancestors > records. > > > > Here is a National Collection place for Slave Data: > > > > We would certainly encourage and support all researchers to share any and > > all slave data you encounter in your genealogical pursuits. We, African > > Ancestored Researchers (aka: Afrigeneas), have a project of some 9 year > > duration to gather, compile and make available slave data to the African > > Ancestored researcher. Records kept by the slaveowner are frequently the > > only clue to our ancestors, particularly during the period 1619-1870. > > > > > > Records Sought include: > > > > Advertisements > > Apprenticeship > > Bible Records > > Bills of Sale > > Birth Records > > Census Schedules > > Church Records > > Cohabitation > > Court Records > > DayBooks/Logs > > Death Records > > Diaries-Journals > > Inventories > > Legislative Acts > > Letters > > Litigation > > Manumissions > > Marriage Records > > Military Records > > Misc Records > > Pension Records > > Plantation Records > > Run-A-Ways > > SlaveOwners > > Slave Sales > > Tax Records > > Wills > > > > _____________________ > > > > Such information provided is available to all researchers at our FTP site > > and at the Afrigeneas HomePage. It is also available in the AOL Genealogy > > Forum Libraries. > > > > > > What format would we want the data? > > > > Well in the final analysis, whatever is best for you, the Sharer. > > > > A preferred format follows: > > > > > > Slaveowners Name: > > Name of Slave: > > Parent(s) of Slave: > > BirthPlace of Slave: > > Age of Slave: > > Sex of Slave: > > Color of Slave: > > Other Physical Description: > > Other Information: > > Source Document: > > State: > > County: > > Year of Source Document: > > How to Access Source Document: > > > > ================================ > > > > This information may be submitted on line > > To: slavedata@aol.com > > or By US Postal Service > > > > To: Anniston-Calhoun Public Library > > Alabama Room-SlaveData Collection > > Post Office Box 308 > > Anniston, AL 36202 > > > > Browse The Collection As It Builds > > > > http://members.aol.com/slavedata/Public/ > > > > Thanx for your attention and for your help! > > > > Valencia King Nelson > > National Coordinator > > > > > > Browse AfriGeneas Archived Messages On-Line > > > > http://www.msstate.edu/listarchives/afrigeneas/ </fontfamily> > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - African Ancestored Genealogy Discussion > > - To unsubscribe, email: Majordomo@MsState.Edu > > - In body of message: unsubscribe afrigeneas > > - > > - Afrigeneas archives: http://www.msstate.edu/listarchives/afrigeneas/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > From: "Jackie" <tanimara@townsqr.com> > > To: THOMAS-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [THOMAS] I need information on Slave sites. Research on > > establishing a site to post info on slaves found in many of our ancestors > > records. > > Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 11:13:18 -0500 > > > > I have recently been involved in a discussion about how to find > information > > on slaves. People that are trying to track their genealogy back to slaves > > have limited resources for that information. As a decendant of slave > > owners, I find listed in the Wills of my ancestors the names of many > slaves. > > This information just sets there and I feel it needs to be listed > > somewhere. Does anyone know of a site that deals with this type of > > information? (slave research). Specifically a site that lists slave > names, > > dates and locations. I feel a responsibility to the decendants of slaves > to > > provide this information as I come across it. If a site is not available, > I > > think one should be and Im thinking about starting one. 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I have a story (don't groan) that might interest some of y'all. I had an article in the last issue of the White River Valley Historical Quarterly about what I call "hybrid" genealogy, mixing computer genealogy with traditional genealogy. At the end of the article, there was a little paragraph with my full name, and some of what I do in my "spare" (hah!) time. Jean Gleaves, who is the secretary-treasurer of the WRVHS, emailed me last week with a request that had been sent in by a lady named Ruth Hadlock in Klamath Falls, OR; Ruth asked that I contact her, so I dropped a little note in snail mail to her on Friday. Now, I have kin on both my Macomb and my Wilson (Daddy's maternal and paternal lines) who went to WA and OR and CA at various times in the early 1900s, and then later in the 1920s and 1930s. I joke about Butte Co. CA being populated by nearly all of Stone Co. and some of Taney, for if you can't find your people in MO or OK (another popular destination in the early 1900s), chances are, if you go the excellent CA Death Index at Rootsweb, you might find them there. So I thought this lady might be one of those long-lost lines I've not been in contact with yet... Nope. That's what I get fer thinkin'. She noted my married name as being Sheets and asked if my husband (pore ol' abused Greg) was kin to any of the Sheets in Taney County. Greg's dad was born in NE MO (Tarkio), and his grandfather, Cecil Earl Sheets, had lived all his life--as far we knew until last May--in northern MO and in NE. We found out in May that Earl, as he was called (I never had the pleasure of meeting him, unfortunately), was born in Agnes, MO, which was located in Laclede County. I met many of Greg's distant cousins from Laclede County at Earl's funeral in May, and got some info, enough to do some digging of my own. But that's another story, and not in the WRV region. I've not made any connection with Greg's Sheets line to the Taney Co. Sheets. Ruth was born about 1922 in Kirbyville; her maiden name is Gulls, her mother was a Morris--somehow, I neglected to get her parents' first names. I don't have her Gulls line, but her grandparents were Nannie Snapp and Alfred Morris. Alfred's parents were a Hiram Morris and an Emma Hailey, who were originally from Charleston, WV. Emma's second husband was the Hilsabeck who owned the motel in Forsyth. Nannie Snapp and Alfred were married 12 Jul 1897 in Taney County. (this from the WRV site of Taney). Nannie and Al were later divorced, and she married a George Wheeler. (this 2nd marriage must have happened after 1913, for I can't find it in my indexes, and I believe she said it was George Wheeler who took Nannie out West). Nannie's father was Samuel Snapp, her mother his first wife, Sarah Sims. Ruth has been doing genealogy for over 40 years, and said she has much of the Sims/Snapp info. What she doesn't have is where Susan Haggard, Samuel's 2nd wife, is buried. She would like to know. If someone has that information, email me and I'll send you Ruth's address (she isn't online). Samuel was shot and killed by Wash Middleton in the middle of the Bald Knobber regime; it was allegedly under orders by Nat Kinney. (Oh yeah, I'm owing more Bald Knobber stories, aren't I? oops) He was a witness to Andrew Coggburn's death at the hands of Kinney, and the Bald Knobbers allegedly thought he knew too much to live. But I digress. Ruth asked if I was familiar with Sheets Holler in Taney County. She said it was some 2 1/2 miles south and east of Forsyth. Now, I have quite a few maps of Taney, and I've never seen it. Don't have a clue where it is. I know Jo Stacey Albers went to school in Branson with a James Sheets during the 1940s; he was apparently Indian, and no one knows what happened to him. But I don't know if there's any connection between James and Sheets Holler. A family named Sheets lived in Sheets Holler (it doesn't always work that way), in a log cabin on a bench (mountain shoulder). Ruth said her mama always told her, "Stay Away From Sheets Holler", using the excuse there were too many snakes for the kids to play there. The Sheets family was apparently good-sized. One night--Ruth said she wasn't very old, it must've been around 1926 or 1927--the baby cried in the night, but no one checked on it, and it was soon silent. The next morning, Ruth said a big rattlesnake was found curled up in the cradle, and the baby had died from snakebite. Awful story. Ruth said another sad incident happened, she thought, not long after that, and the family just moved away without selling the place. Eventually the land came up for sale due to back taxes, and one of her father's neighbors told him he ought to buy it; the land was next to land that Ruth's grandfather Morris had bought. Her father did buy the land, and it is still owned by the family today--some 200-300 acres, she said. If I hadn't lost my Taney County plat book somewhere, I might be able to find Sheets Holler. Ruth's first husband was a Ryser--she married him out west in CA, I guess. Here is an article about the Bald Knobbers here (Taney And Beyond site) that isn't about Sam Snapp (I'm looking for that one...) The picture of Bald Knobbers there is not of the Taney county BK--the Christian Co. BK were the ones who wore the fancy black masks. http://library.thinkquest.org/50083/baldkexp.html Another article at Taney and Beyond (still not what I'm looking for, picture is the same Christian Co. BK) http://library.thinkquest.org/50083/baldknob.html Ruth has contributed several articles to early issues of the WRVHQ. Here's the one I'm looking for about Sam Snapp. You can go the WRVHQ site (linked off the WRV homepage), do a keyword search for "Snapp", and come up with 52 hits! http://198.209.8.166/wrvq/v6/n2/w77b.htm Vonda Wilson Sheets ListMom for MOTANEY and MO-AR-WRV at Rootsweb http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~moarwrv/

I bleave there are some Watkins in aurora , Mo. , should be listed in phone book . -----Original Message----- From: Wm Cross <wmc@lightspeed.net> To: MO-AR-WRV-L@rootsweb.com <MO-AR-WRV-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 11:53 AM Subject: Watkins in MO/AK I would really appreciate any information on this Watkins family, have been unable to find any information or Edy last name, or the parents of Mitchell. Thank you, Peggy Mitcheal Watkins in Stoddard Co. MO in the 1840 census. He shows with one male under 5 (could be Henry) and then he himself... He is listed in the male 20-30 bracket and he would be 28 in 1840, shown are 2 females under 5 and 1 female 5-10 1 female 20-30 bracket. - WHITE RIVER TOWNSHIP ---- 243 WALKINS Mitchell 38 KY Farmer Edy F 38 TN Henry A. 7 MO Mary E. 5 MO Eliza 3 AR William T. 1 AR ==== MO-AR-WRV Mailing List ==== Do you have records or data for the WRV? Transcribe it! Do you have a webpage with information for the WRV? Link it! Get involved! ============================== Visit Ancestry’s Library – The best collection of family history learning and how-to articles on the Internet. http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

Beth, you need to re-sub! <BG> Fwd: [ARIZARD-L] BLANKENSHIP-Hickman Co., TN Vonda and the list, Hello! I can't remember whether I saw some Blankenship on this list or Douglas Co. so I will just post to both. This all sounds familiar but I'm not sure from where. Not any of my lines just very familiar it seems. Beth Peck Cooper In a message dated 10/16/00 12:05:29 PM Central Daylight Time, Pjkingtru@aol.com writes: << The following appeared on the Hickman County, Tennessee list this morning: Subj: [TNHICKMA] BLANKENSHIP's Date: 10/16/00 1:36:10 AM Central Daylight Time From: LuLuLeeroy@aol.com To: TNHICKMA-L@rootsweb.com Hello Everyone, This is my first post to the list, and it isn't a very good one. The reason being is that I am looking for my Calvin Blankenship without much to go on. I found Calvin BLankenship married to Deliah on the 1850 Texas County, MO census. Living next door to Calvin is WIlliam Blankenship and his wife, Pamela Jane. Since Calvin was only a couple of years older than William, I have to assume they are related, if not brothers, because they were the only Blankenships in Texas County at this time and they were both born in TN and both of their wives in IL (just thought that was interesting). SInce Calvin Died during the civil war (there is no record on him except a muster roll), he wasn't around when the government started asking where their parents were born. I followed Deiliah until 1880. I estimate her time of death between 1881-1883. I followed William, and he lists his parents as also being born in TN ..... although its a shot in the dark, is there anyone out there that has a link to a BLANKENSHIP's that had a son named Calvin, (who was born abt 1820-25) and/or William (b. abt.1823-1826). I do not have Calvin's parents names or their wives maiden names. I am hoping to connect them to someone who might be able to shed some light on this for me .... Thank you in advance!!!! Thank you! LuLu LeeRoy Kansas City, Missouri

I would really appreciate any information on this Watkins family, have been unable to find any information or Edy last name, or the parents of Mitchell. Thank you, Peggy Mitcheal Watkins in Stoddard Co. MO in the 1840 census. He shows with one male under 5 (could be Henry) and then he himself... He is listed in the male 20-30 bracket and he would be 28 in 1840, shown are 2 females under 5 and 1 female 5-10 1 female 20-30 bracket. - WHITE RIVER TOWNSHIP ---- 243 WALKINS Mitchell 38 KY Farmer Edy F 38 TN Henry A. 7 MO Mary E. 5 MO Eliza 3 AR William T. 1 AR

When the Corps of Engineers decided to build Bull Shoals Dam down there in AR in the early 1950s, they had to move the city of Forsyth from its location of more than 120 years at the mouth of Swan Creek and the White River. This is the reason Taney County doesn't have the traditional "courthouse" square that the majority of counties in the White River Valley have...we lost our courthouse square to Bull Shoals Lake and construction of present-day Hwy 160. This land today is called Shadow Rock Park. In flood years, I have seen the entire park under water; Hwy 160 bisects the park, with the Fairgrounds on what the lake/river side, and the parkgrounds between the Hwy and Swan Creek. Compared to many fairgrounds and accompanying parks, it is a small area. You can view this by going to http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.asp?S=10&T=1&X=2454&Y=20299&Z=15&W=2 That is Shadow Rock Park. The bridge carrying what we call Hwy 76 East (cuz it's east of Branson, rather big-headed, ain't it?) crosses Bull Shoals Lake/White River. When this picture was taken in 1996, it wasn't near as dry as it is now. Turn left at the intersection, and the big steel bridge will carry you up to the townsite of Forsyth, although the city limits now include Shadow Rock. The old cement bridge below it still carries traffic across, and I believe that is the site of the old ford that folks coming from Walnut Shade took to get to the town. Swan Creek is below the latter 2 bridges. The Osage used to camp here in the early 1800s. The Fairgrounds are on the bottom part of the picture, on the south. (I used to think I got all turned around here--this proves that I really wasn't, for I knew 160 went north through this area of Taney county. Now I got to get turned back around...for here it's going east-west.) The big steel bridge crossing Swan Creek doesn't come anywhere near the crest of the Shadow Rock Bluff. It is a good 200 feet at least above the creek, and yes, there are houses built right on the edge...I would be too nervous to live there, but looking up at it, you can see the Osage scouts, watching for game, for the view must be spectacular. Turn right at the bridge crossing Bull Shoals, and then immediately turn back north, into the entrance of the park. Shadow Rock Lodge is the big building setting back off 160 a little distance. The Old Jail is the building with the black roof, directly behind the Lodge, and next to the Forsyth-Taneyville Road, heading NE. This jail was built in 1913, at a cost of about $4,200. Jo Stacey Albers, the president of the Historical Society, has told me the exact figures and who built it, but I've forgotten. It is all cement--floors, walls, and ceilings/roof. The first floor was the actual jail, with the second floor being the sheriff's quarters. 'Tisn't a very big building at all--basically the size of a 2 car garage, maybe a bit smaller, in circumference (is that the correct thing to call a square shape? LOL) The Corps of Engineers owns the building, but leased it to the city of Forsyth on a 99-year lease. After some neglect and vandalism over the years, the city donated the use of it to the White River Valley Historical Society in 1995. Bob Miley, who I've mentioned before as needing to have a bronze statue cast of him for all he's done for Taney County history, not just for the Society, and Jerry Gideon, a former elected Taney Co. official several times, spent a great deal of time on the building in the first 2 years. There were once apartments in it, and sheet rock had been put over the concrete walls. Bob, after doing some research/careful inspection, discovered the jail walls (first floor) were covered with graffitti from former prisoners. You'll find about any Taney County name there, if they were in the county after 1913; I'm not kidding. It's great, and I'd like to make a book out of some of that stuff. Bob's carefully torn off the sheetrock, exposing most of the graffitti (whoever thought it'd be historical, I wonder?) The walkway around the south and east sides of the building is below ground level with retaining walls that are crumbling. Bob and Jerry spent days literally shoveling out the garbage/refuse that had accumulated. Inside, the Society has replaced 4 of the windows on the top floor, which has restrooms and a kitchenette. The rest of the windows also need to be replaced, but they have to be custom-built by someone who knows what they are doing. The Society has been rather undecided in the years since over what use to make of the building. The back issues of the quarterlies, and the archives, are stored in the top floor, on tables and in boxes. The Board does meet monthly in the building, but other than Law Day, there's no other time it has been opened. We are going to change that. While there is a need for a historical museum, the jail isn't really suitable for storing artifacts on a permanent basis. Too much moisture. I would like to see the Society get a good research and archives location going, and being right there in the Taney County seat makes the jail almost ideal for that. The old steps leading to the 2nd floor from the right (east) side of the building are cement, narrow and unsafe. We may take them out entirely, installing a ramp and safer stairs to make the building much easier for folks who need wheelchair and walker access. The City of Forsyth takes care of the water and light bills; we pay the propane. These are from Jo's notes concerning the jail. Restoration: replace remaining windows; repair upper porch, replace if necessary; stucco repair and paint; entrance ramp; retaining wall and sidewalk; landscaping. Upstairs: blinds, bookcases, display cases, file cabinets Downstairs: retain original (graffitti) walls; acquire any fixtures which will "restore" original purpose of building (at least in one room) [vks note--there are 3 rooms downstairs, the upstairs is open]; provide storage To Do: Finish demolition; Get quotes on major repairs; arrange upstairs as 1) meeting place for Society 2) revolving display of historical items 3) research facilities; prepare downstairs for tours and possible storage Quite a project. There's a little more, but it'll keep. I've managed to arrange a meeting at the Jail on Wed with a fellow from the local cement company for a bid and overall estimate of the concrete work needing to be done. Also to be present is another fellow I've mentioned before, Barry Johnson, the bronze sculptor who seems to be able to anything he sets his mind to (I've seen his remodeling/construction work, but he says he's not an expert on actual concrete work); plus, Barry is really excited about working on the Jail, and excitement is what we need right now. Jo and Jerry Gideon will also be there, and anyone else I can rustle up on short notice. The rush is rather necessary, for as my friend at the cement company told me today, the weather has to be just right for it to set, and we need it done by the end of March. Bob and Jerry have done so much, and gotten so little appreciation except by mentions; they are getting physically unable to do much more of the heavy stuff, so we've accepted that what we can't get by donations of materials and labor, we'll have to pay for. And I'm going to see about a bronze plaque or two, if I can't get a statue. So I'm out lighting fires, so to speak. BTW, forgot to mention--they named me Event Co-ordinator for Law Day 2001: Outlaw Roundup. That's what I get for being the squeaky wheel, so to speak. <VBG> I'm honored; better yet, maybe it'll get me a job doing this kind of stuff (wouldn't that be great? lol) All because there aren't enough events for me to wear my tear dress to. There's much more to come in the following months. If y'all have been involved in this kind of project, I could use some advice, either with Law Day or the Jail. It's late--I've gotta get some sleep. Any questions, you can e me direct, or to the list--I'd like to see some discussion of this... Vonda ListMom for MOTANEY and MO-AR-WRV at Rootsweb http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~moarwrv mailto:vonda@copper-turtle.com

congrats from me to had my first grandbaby born in June and get to watch her and it is great. brenda

Welp to all my friends and family, I proud to announce the arrival of my Granddaughter, Jordyn Dawn McGie, she weighted 6 lb. 5 oz., 20 inches long, dark brown curly hair and a wonderful Godsend to our family. Sorry haven't been responding to a lot of the e-mails but have been very busy with Grandbabies.(Ain't they great.)::Grinning one of those proud Meemaw grins::. I shall try to get myself back just alittle more organized now. Thanks for all there prayers and care. Warmest Regards, Pama

Hello! Well, I made it through the trip to KC and the wedding and the accompanying stuff (I need to find another word to use...junk?) associated with 2 motels rooms, bored kids, a big fancy detailed wedding, and a 3 1/2 to 4 hours drive one way...let's say it was a pretty good weekend, all things considered. Even got to visit the 1859 Jail in Independence, MO and ride in a "prairie schooner", a wagon pulled by a Belgian draft mare and driven by a Ralph Goldsmith, whose mother still lives in Galena, Stone Co. MO (he graduated from Reeds Spring HS). The redhead bought himself a coonskin cap at the Jail's giftshop, and proceeded to wear it almost all weekend, except for the wedding and reception. Of all our kids, Brett is the one most likely to follow in his mother's footsteps on matters of history and genealogy. <BG> The trees are a-changin' and this part of fall makes the Ozarks the prettiest spot on earth. They said there wasn't going to be much color this year, due to the lack of rainfall, but the scrub oak in my backyard is bright red in spots for some reason...<BG> might have somethin' to do with the dogs? The trees changed from our trip to KC on Friday to the trip back home yesterday...that's how quick it can happen. I want to thank each of you who have sent me a note telling me you appreciate my litanies and hollerin'. THANKS! Anyone ever notice that there are some real creative folks doing genealogy? Look at the email addys sometime...I like that "Searchin4deadppl" one! Gosh...I didn't see the person's name, but I already like 'em! And to sign up for EVERY MO county...oh, man. That's dedication. Got all kinds of news. Rather scary, when you think about it...but things have been cookin' right along--and y'all thought I've been jest sittin' 'round... The White River Valley Historical Society will be 40 years old in 2001, and we are going to celebrate in a big way! Gotta do some backtracking here... First of all, y'all know you can access the WRVHS website from the WRV home page, right? http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~moarwrv/wrvhs.html No matter what time of year you join--the end of our membership year currently is 30 June--you'll get all back issues of the Quarterly for the year you join. The Quarterly is chockfull of goodies, stories about various parts of the WRV and the people in it. It is a magazine, not a newsletter, although we are talking about a newsletter (it's in the "someday" file). One of the folks on these lists, Ingrid Albers, is the new Editor, and a good friend to boot...she's been helpful to several 'sides me who are looking for family. The Quarterly alone is worth the $15 Individual membership dues. And most of you know, historical and cultural preservation has been a big issue for me. I've gone from realizing that we in Taney County--and some surrounding counties--don't have a single historical marker, building, museum, or anything, besides the long-established Ralph Foster Museum at College of the Ozarks, and the occasional little cemetery sign sitting down some dirt road miles from pavement, to trying to figure out some way to change that. A group of other folks and I have done some cemetery-hopping, but it's not just cems...it's the cabins and the roads and the creeks and the hills, and so much more...the feuds, the weddings, the bushwhackers, the Bald Knobbers, the people...our people. For several years, membership in the Society dwindled, due to some apathy, and some of the older ones passing away. Young families and people tend not to get involved with these things, because a) they're busy raising families and living life and thinking they'll get involved when they get older and have more time; b) believe it or not, some folks find history boring--how?--and sometimes the presentation of history IS pretty dry and boring...but history itself isn't ever boring to me. Some time periods are more fun to deal with, due to events that directly affected our families or caused our brick walls. Anyhow... I've been having little "events", things that have been culminating into some big "events", and the time has come to share some of this with you. Ingrid and I have been yakkin', doing some brainstorming, and she's great to bounce ideas off of. Ingrid wanted to expand the current Law Day, held every May over at the Old Taney County Jail, home of the WRVHS. Then Kathy Riggan came over one day last month for me to do some copies of her and Bob Miley's Taney County Cemetery work for volunteer transcribers. Kathy and I were doing some thinking out loud--something I'm sure you're aware I do frequently--and we hit upon some ideas, so many so quick I didn't take time to go find a notepad--just started writing on a napkin, since we were at the kitchen table (my fave place to talk). Some of it to do with Law Day, some of it to do with an event later in the year 2001, some of it concerning a Historic Sites tour, some of it concerning the jail's restoration and expanded use. Some of it with a Bald Knobber re-enactment, some with a pow-wow, some with a Civil War re-enactment. Since there was no limits to our imaginations, and no one to say "WHOA", we went wild. Ingrid, once apprised of this, went even further; being more organized than myself, she managed to break it up into workable sections. Only now I got about 6 different projects going, and then Greg decides to start up a computer business...LOL and I still don't have one of them "time-clock punching" jobs. <BG> So...this is the clincher. After several serendipitious meetings with people who also think we need more, encouragement by even more people (Beth!) and a proposal drawn up and presented to the board of the WRVHS on Saturday (I had to go to KC, confound it!), I am pleased to announce (ta da!) Law Day 2001: Outlaw Roundup To be held 19 May, 2001, at the Old Taney County Jail in Shadow Rock Park in Forsyth, MO, from about 8 or 9 AM until about 6 PM (Definite Schedule TBA) These are the planned events-- A 40th Anniversary Quarterly Special Issue will be available to members and for purchase by non-members. It has not been decided if this will be a separate edition from the regular Spring Issue; but we'd like to have it so, then make it available for online and later orders from folks who can't visit on Law Day. We are inviting all historical and genealogical societies in the region covered by the WRVHS (see website) in MO and AR to have a display table for publications and membership applications as well. We are inviting publication vendors, including regional magazines like the Ozarks Mountaineer, to also have exhibits or representatives onhand to visit with folks. IF the Historical Sites Committee can get the sites picked out and a trail worked out, there will be a contest, rather like a scavenger hunt, with prizes. The winner would be the first one to leave and return with a marker from each site on the Trail, or something similar in nature. There will be a costume contest, under the categories of members and guests. Costumes could be from any time period in WRV history, from the 1820s (even earlier) to the 1950s, I guess. Prizes will be awarded in various categories such as Best Native American, best Victorian, best Turn of the 20th Century, Best Ancestor Characterization...some haven't been determined yet. Everybody likes to dress up; not everyone gets a chance. (Besides, I needed something to wear my tear dress to; and I want to live long enough to see "Mountain Man" Greg actually wear one of the men's calico mountain man shirts he rescued from the yard sale pile last month. Realistically, I know that men actually wore calico--I just have an extremely hard time visualizing my mountain man doing so.) There will be story-telling and music. Wanda Pickett Ehlers has already decided to do an impersonation of her great-grandmother, Elizabeth Hutsell Rittenhouse Stewart (she's does a wonderful "I'm going to go drown myself!" with the arm resting on the forehead and the eyes dramatically pathetic. Elizabeth apparently said that when Wanda's grandmother announced her engagement). We are talking with many of the old-time folk and hillbilly music players. There will be a picnic, details still being worked on. There will be Kids' Activities, with scavenger hunts and crafts, obstacle course maybe, and prizes. "Make your very own Bald Knobber Mask" might be a good craft! There will be a Bald Knobber Re-enactment. Major events in the history of the Bald Knobbers will be acted, on the same grounds they happened in the first place, beginning 115 years ago. A playbook, discussing the re-enactors and the events, hopefully, if donations and grants permit, will be sold. There will be Outlaw Exhibits, with pictures and stories about the outlaws (and in some cases, in-laws) of the White River Valley, such as Alf Bolin, Old Lady Melton, Nat Kinney, Jake Fleagle, Quantrill, and we can't forget Jesse James, who apparently never committed any robberies in the WRV (the area was too poor) but hid out here; there's others. Doc Gonce might be a good one...Barb Logan, care to work up some pictures and the story of Doc? I'll glue 'em on the exhibit boards! We hope to have a still--not to worry, won't be producing "shine", but will definitely have a [rubbing] alcohol aroma...if we can figure out how. We are planning to have basic lessons on filling out a 4-gen chart; and maybe see if we can contact someone at Rootsweb and other online genealogical websites/software vendors to have a rep. I am thinking of putting out a guest book that would include family lines folks are researching, as well. We want this particular event to take on a research/document aspect; another event in the works for next fall will be more of a lifestyle event. I will be sending out copies of the proposal to major corporate donors in the area in the next week, with a cover letter explaining what we need. Our main concern is the funds, and the "manpower" behind the committees. What you CAN do, as descendants of people in the White River Valley, is this: join the Society. If you can come to Law Day, COME! If you live here, get involved! If you don't live here, and you can afford it, send a little extra--and you can even designate what you want it to go to, be it the Jail Restoration, a certain event at Law Day, or some other activity. All proceeds from this and other events to be announced will go towards the Society! Ingrid and I are going to be writing grant requests to the MO Humanities Council (yet summat else fer me ta larn!), and going and getting prices, etc. for various things we'll need done. Am I forgetting anything? This has gotten long enough, so I'll post about the Jail in a bit. With Greg, the kids, and the phone, I've gotten derailed enough. Please try to get involved with the White River Valley Historical Society. I live where my ancestors did, and thus am a bit more fortunate than some of you. But maybe there's a society near you, as well, that could use some volunteer work or whatever you can do; what goes around really does come back again. Vonda ListMom for the MOTANEY and MO-AR-WRV at Rootsweb http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~moarwrv/ mailto:vonda@copper-turtle.com

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Vonda, Just wanted you to know that I did read this message but won't have time to "approach" the subject<g> for a week or two. On my way tomorrow to help out with new grandson who will make his appearance on Wednesday...........supposedly.......they are inducing labor so we will see<g> Nancy J. Listowner cherokee@topica.com ************************************ Check out my eBay items by searching for "Cherokee Legacy" ************************************ http://www.angelfire.com/biz5/utsonati/legacy/cherokeeleg.htm -----Original Message----- From: Vonda Sheets <vonda@peoplepc.com> To: MO-AR-WRV-L@rootsweb.com <MO-AR-WRV-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, October 12, 2000 10:48 PM Subject: Cherokee stuff >Nancy, Jackie, and others researching Cherokee families... > >Does anyone know how many bands of Cherokee there are in MO and AR, for >sure? Has any band ever been accused of not being legit? Do you recommend >a person join a band close to home, or one that is based where your people >lived? > >I recently had someone write me about some of his Cherokee ancestors; do any >bands base membership on whether a person was on any earlier rolls than >Dawes/Guion Miller? In this case, the Drennen Rolls? > >What do bands use to verify a person's ancestry? I know folks have to >submit proof of descendancy from a certain ancestor, via census records, >birth and death certs, etc. But say a person's people aren't on any of the >rolls that have been published in Bob Blankenship's "Cherokee By Blood" >Series...are there other rolls that bands other than the Western Nation, the >Eastern Nation, and the United Keetoowah tribes use? They would have to go >on something other than hearsay; after all, they don't just accept someone's >application, do they? > >There is more I need to know about this; others on this list who are >looking, and would like to learn. After all, most of us with White River >Valley ancestors have Cherokee, Shawnee, Delaware, Creek, or maybe even >Osage in us at some point... > >Would y'all consent to maybe posting some stuff about these things? I >realize that's a lot to ask, but there's a lot that people just don't learn >about the process or what to do and not do. A lot of bands now have >websites, but they aren't answering the questions I have, it seems. Or >maybe I'm not asking the right questions. > >(Maybe you could also help me figure out if I should attempt to get a grant >to study the early Cherokee in MO and AR? <G>) > >Vonda > > >==== MO-AR-WRV Mailing List ==== >Visit the White River Valley web! >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~moarwrv/ > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the >No. 1 Source for Family History Online. Search over 600 MILLION NAMES >and trace your family tree today. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >