Probably a longshot and not true in your case, but always consider the times. Many scotsmen came over for the fur trade. Many, many of them took indian women or half breeds as mates while they were here. Many of them left the women when they went back. He may have made one trip here, then went back. The "marriages" were not recognized by the church, and in fact, as evident with the McGillivray family (my ancestors) some of these women had to file lawsuits in order to gain any status at all when it came to inheritances. Most of the women just disappeared into the woodwork, and their children and grandchildren were forgotten. They are referred to in the writings of these men, not by name, but by racial slurs. Since the Duluth-Fond du Lac-Fort William area was a very major fur trade post area (North West Company) at the time, it may be that you need to research into that a little. The North West Company was owned by the Scottish (McGillivrays) and was largely Scottish by way of hiring. Any way, this could have some bearing on your search. Carol Peterson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marion Markham" <mmrbm@ameritech.net> To: <MNSTLOUI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 8:48 AM Subject: [MNSTLOUI] John McLean/Charles McLean > Does anyone have a connection to John McLean, born in Canada in 1844? In a > copy of a letter from the files at Forest Hill Cemetery, John McLean refers > to his brother, Charles. However, it cannot be the Charles who was the son > of my gr-uncle Laughlan McLean, because Laughlan was still in Scotland in > 1844 and unmarried. > > In 1899-1900 John McLean, although living in Bemidji, was paying for a > cemetery plot in Forest Hill so he must have had some Duluth connection. > > If anyone has access for a Duluth city directory for that period, please do > a lookup for Charles McLeans. Thanks in advance. > > Marion Markham > >

Regarding the possibility of mixed blood Scots and Indian, try Gail Morin's site. She includes some of the half-breed scrip indexes from the Grea Lakes area. Kathie Donahue http://www.amerindgenhelp.homestead.com/index.html American Indian Genealogy Help Center and Message Board ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Peterson <carolbpeter@email.msn.com> To: <MNSTLOUI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [MNSTLOUI] John McLean/Charles McLean > Probably a longshot and not true in your case, but always consider the > times. Many scotsmen came over for the fur trade. Many, many of them took > indian women or half breeds as mates while they were here. Many of them > left the women when they went back. He may have made one trip here, then > went back. The "marriages" were not recognized by the church, and in fact, > as evident with the McGillivray family (my ancestors) some of these women > had to file lawsuits in order to gain any status at all when it came to > inheritances. Most of the women just disappeared into the woodwork, and > their children and grandchildren were forgotten. They are referred to in > the writings of these men, not by name, but by racial slurs. Since the > Duluth-Fond du Lac-Fort William area was a very major fur trade post area > (North West Company) at the time, it may be that you need to research into > that a little. The North West Company was owned by the Scottish > (McGillivrays) and was largely Scottish by way of hiring. Any way, this > could have some bearing on your search. > Carol Peterson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marion Markham" <mmrbm@ameritech.net> > To: <MNSTLOUI-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 8:48 AM > Subject: [MNSTLOUI] John McLean/Charles McLean > > > > Does anyone have a connection to John McLean, born in Canada in 1844? In > a > > copy of a letter from the files at Forest Hill Cemetery, John McLean > refers > > to his brother, Charles. However, it cannot be the Charles who was the > son > > of my gr-uncle Laughlan McLean, because Laughlan was still in Scotland in > > 1844 and unmarried. > > > > In 1899-1900 John McLean, although living in Bemidji, was paying for a > > cemetery plot in Forest Hill so he must have had some Duluth connection. > > > > If anyone has access for a Duluth city directory for that period, please > do > > a lookup for Charles McLeans. Thanks in advance. > > > > Marion Markham > > > > >

That same topic came into a family conversation just the other day. The high cheek bones, the dark eyes, and dark hair. There is a family trait that almost looks more towards the "Oriental" features minus the eyes. The eyes are more "cat like" in shape. The thing with that is to my knowledge so far I have only found one story of a possible indian marriage and that isn't even in our line! It makes one wonder.... Kim Kathie Donahue wrote: > Regarding the possibility of mixed blood Scots and Indian, -- http://www.cableone.net/jamez/family.htm Check out some of the other websites I'm running. http://drew-ms.netfirms.com/ http://www.fortunecity.com/westwood/beautiful/877/ or http://nav.to/Merick

Kim...i just want to jump in here...i think i have missed some of the discussion. may i ask what part of the country you are talking about with the Scots and possible indian connection? my family is from TN, NC, KY, VA and i discovered people referred to as Melungeons. most stories are that some ancestors were indian but there was no proof of that. they have the characteristics you mentions...high cheek bones...dark eyes...olive complections... the subject of Melungeons is rather complicated but very interesting. if you search the word on the net you will find lots of info. just a suggestion. marilyn deloach elliott duluth mn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Pollard" <merick@cableone.net> To: <MNSTLOUI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 9:55 PM Subject: [MNSTLOUI] Re: mixed marriages > That same topic came into a family conversation just the other day. The high > cheek bones, the dark eyes, and dark hair. There is a family trait that almost > looks more towards the "Oriental" > features minus the eyes. The eyes are more "cat like" in shape. The thing with > that is to my knowledge so far I have only found one story of a possible indian > marriage and that isn't even in our line! It makes one wonder.... > > Kim > > Kathie Donahue wrote: > > > Regarding the possibility of mixed blood Scots and Indian, > > -- > http://www.cableone.net/jamez/family.htm > > Check out some of the other websites I'm running. > > http://drew-ms.netfirms.com/ > > http://www.fortunecity.com/westwood/beautiful/877/ > or > http://nav.to/Merick > >