Hello all, I wanted to revise my offer for look ups in my local library. I will still work on the ones already sent to me as of this afternoon, but how about I work on about 5-6 books for every check out period? Example: I have this current set of books out until April 23, 2001. The current set include: Cemertery and Bible records: A publication of the Mississippi Genealogical Society. The following books are indexed. Vol. 2 for 1955 Vol. 4 for 1957 Vol. 5 for 1958 Vol. 6 for 1959 Vol. 7 for 1960 Vol. 10 for 1963 Each book contains about 200+ pages with a lot of the goodies you would expect in a bible or the cemetery. I will keep you updated when the books change and try to include a little discription of what the books include. Please remember to try to give me as much information as dates, places and names as you can. Afterwhile I will go back to all look ups and I will let you know then. Sincerely, Kim Pollard Drew, Ms. -- Original statement I visited my local library and found that it has a large (for the town of 2,500 people) collection of Genealogical reference books that was donated some time ago. Now, I know some might be outdated, but if you would like to have me look for you just give me as much information as you can. Just a taste of what they have includes (this was all they would let me leave with today) Alabama Notes Vol. 1&2 by England ( indexed) Notable men of Alabama personal and genealogical Vol. 1 & 2 (Indexed) by DuBose Mississippi 1820 Census by Gillis ( indexed) Georgia 1850 Census Index by Jackson and Teeples (indexed) And many more. If you know anyone with this area of search please pass this along. I can't guarantee anything but I will try. One request at a time please. Our library is only open from 1-6pm Mon.- Sat. http://www.cableone.net/jamez/family.htm Check out some of the other websites I'm running. http://drew-ms.netfirms.com/ http://www.fortunecity.com/westwood/beautiful/877/ or http://nav.to/Merick

Hello fellow listers, I visited my local library and found that it has a large (for the town of 2,500 people) collection of Genealogical reference books that was donated some time ago. Now, I know some might be outdated, but if you would like to have me look for you just give me as much information as you can. Just a taste of what they have includes (this was all they would let me leave with today) Alabama Notes Vol. 1&2 by England ( indexed) Notable men of Alabama personal and genealogical Vol. 1 & 2 (Indexed) by DuBose Mississippi 1820 Census by Gillis ( indexed) Georgia 1850 Census Index by Jackson and Teeples (indexed) Cemetery and Bible records (in Mississippi )Vol. 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 10. I don't have those with me, but I should have them by tomorrow. And many more. If you know anyone with this area of search please pass this along. I can't guarantee anything but I will try. One request at a time please. Our library is only open from 1-6pm Mon.- Sat. Kim Pollard Drew, MS. -- http://www.cableone.net/jamez/family.htm Check out some of the other websites I'm running. http://drew-ms.netfirms.com/ http://www.fortunecity.com/westwood/beautiful/877/ or http://nav.to/Merick

I am looking for descendents of my great Aunt, Delianna (Adelia) Charbonneau(b. 1889) aka "Babe". I believe she lived in the Hibbing, Chisholm area about 1910. She was married to Abe?Layton, Paul Overall, William Ross, ? Madison, and Tom Doyle. In 1939 she lived in Virginia and was then married to William Ross. I think some of her husbands were killed in mining accidents? Any information would be appreciated.

The 1900 and 1920 censuses are not indexed on Ancestry.com; the original pages in the handwriting of the census worker are what you look at, and you have to go through them yourself. I have found them really fascinating and not too difficult to search, either in a small town where you can go through page by page looking for your names, or in a big city when you know the address. In Soudan (St. Louis C.), I went through the whole town in a morning. For names in Minneapolis, I got a map through Mapquest and used it to find the census tract that I needed; then I went through the pages in that neighborhood. I'll admit it is somewhat tedious to go through the pages of addresses (usually 20-30 pages per census tract), but I think of it as following in the census worker's footsteps. If you follow the addresses on a map, you "see" him/her going up one side of the street, down the other, sometimes cutting across lots, or backtracking to get a house where--probably--no one was home the first time. In one case I found a family that eventually became an in-law living two streets over. The information on the censuses can be really interesting and helpful--dates of immigration and naturalization, length of marriage, occupations, people living in the household, ages, etc. (1900 and 1920 asked different questions.) In my family, I found out through the census that the man my great-aunt later married was living with the family in 1920 as a hired hand, which my mother didn't know. This fact helped explain some family attitudes toward that particular uncle.

I did. For me it's been great. Yes, they are slow (they used to be slower). They do cause occational lock-ups. "Mom fried it's brain again!" There are tricks so you don't have to view every page to get to the last one. It is easier to just stay out of the census for a day when they add new states or counties (the network gets the fried brain.) But I live in the middle. My husband's family is mostly in the South, mine mostly in the Plains. The schedule here is odd and I can fit my genealogy in. I also end up looking at stuff I would probably have skipped at the library, and some of the idle looking has paid real dividends! Dee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marion Markham" <mmrbm@ameritech.net> To: <MNSTLOUI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 1:10 AM Subject: [MNSTLOUI] Census indexes > Has anyone bought any of the Ancestry.com census indexes. How useful are they? > > Marion Markham > >

I've only heard they take a long time to download and tie up the system for a long time. Dorothy Marion Markham wrote: > Has anyone bought any of the Ancestry.com census indexes. How useful are they? > > Marion Markham

I don't have the indexes. I do have access to the images, and it's a hassle reading them page by page. I also have access to the index for the 1900 census through Geneology.com, and that has been quite useful. carol peterson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marion Markham" <mmrbm@ameritech.net> To: <MNSTLOUI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 1:10 AM Subject: [MNSTLOUI] Census indexes > Has anyone bought any of the Ancestry.com census indexes. How useful are they? > > Marion Markham >

Has anyone bought any of the Ancestry.com census indexes. How useful are they? Marion Markham

Until 1920, a woman who married a naturalized citizen became a US citizen once she resided in the US. My mother's sister from Montreal automatically became a citizen when she married a US citizen in Duluth before that date. My mother, who married in 1932 to a US citizen had to go through the naturalization process. I think UN means "unnaturalized" (is there such a word?). Pat in Michigan

Hi everyone, I just added the 1936 Hibbing Junior College Class list. Many thanks to Barbara Hutchinson O'Dell DHorse@aol.com for submitting! http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnstloui enjoy, Shirley

Hi Kim, I think you can get all the information (and more) from this site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~canwgw/ good luck, Linda

The terms for the column denoting citizenship status were: AL = Alien NA = Naturalized PA = Papers (had filed Declaration of Intent UN = Unknown NR = Not Reported ----- Original Message ----- From: <Pgfhall2@aol.com> To: <MNSTLOUI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [MNSTLOUI] Question about something on the census > Until 1920, a woman who married a naturalized citizen became a US citizen > once she resided in the US. My mother's sister from Montreal automatically > became a citizen when she married a US citizen in Duluth before that date. > My mother, who married in 1932 to a US citizen had to go through the > naturalization process. I think UN means "unnaturalized" (is there such a > word?). > Pat in Michigan >

Kathie Donahue wrote: > If the family had a French name, they were probably French-speaking (in > part) and probably Catholic. The last name was Davis > > "Un" in the U.S. Census means "Unknown". It gives one pause as to who gave > the information on the census. A neighbor? Because, surely, her spouse > would have known when she entered the U.S., etc. From what I have found Fannie was married at least three times and this was her third husband. > Or was she, herself, French-speaking and unable to make herself understood. > It red that she can read, write and speak english. As where the others couldn't in the family. > If either, all the information on that household ought to be scrutinized > carefully. If they were farming, the husband was usually in the fields > somewhere and would not have answered the questions. If the family was > away, the questions might have been answered by a neighbor. What other > adults were in the household who might have answered? > I knew the rest thanks. Kim

Can this be added to the site as a link? Dorothy SSolem8522@aol.com wrote: > Hi Listers, > In response to Anna's recent postings on the WWI honor list from St. Louis > County MN, I did some calling around here in St. Louis County and was able to > find out that there are honor lists online for St. Louis Co. (as well as Cook > Co., Lake Co., and Carlton Co.) along with stories and photos! I have just > spent quite a bit a time looking at the site - it is very interesting and > contains a lot of information. > > http://www. vets-hall.org > > Enjoy, > Shirley

Hi Listers, In response to Anna's recent postings on the WWI honor list from St. Louis County MN, I did some calling around here in St. Louis County and was able to find out that there are honor lists online for St. Louis Co. (as well as Cook Co., Lake Co., and Carlton Co.) along with stories and photos! I have just spent quite a bit a time looking at the site - it is very interesting and contains a lot of information. http://www. vets-hall.org Enjoy, Shirley

Thank you everyone for your insight. I hadn't thought of it that way. I guess it was pretty obvious now that I think about it. So I guess I have to stop saying that I'm part French Canadian now that I know my relative was from the english part of Canada. Was Victoria, Ontario in the English section or was it a mixed area with french being spoken? Kim P.S. One more question I had. I remember recently that a list (I'm on so many) mentioned that the spouse didn't have to get naturalized if the other spouse was naturalized? On the census it reads as John was naturalized, but Fannie didn't have dates, but she had what looks like "Un" for both columns under number of years in the US and Naturalization. (this is also written under other people) Wouldn't they have written down the no. of years she was in the US at least? Does the UN stand for unknown? Pgfhall2@aol.com wrote: > I've seen that listing before, along with "FR" beside my French-Canadians. I > agree that it most likely means English Canada.

If the family had a French name, they were probably French-speaking (in part) and probably Catholic. "Un" in the U.S. Census means "Unknown". It gives one pause as to who gave the information on the census. A neighbor? Because, surely, her spouse would have known when she entered the U.S., etc. Or was she, herself, French-speaking and unable to make herself understood. If either, all the information on that household ought to be scrutinized carefully. If they were farming, the husband was usually in the fields somewhere and would not have answered the questions. If the family was away, the questions might have been answered by a neighbor. What other adults were in the household who might have answered? Is this too many questions? Sorry. Kathie ----- Original Message ----- From: Kim Pollard <merick@cableone.net> To: <MNSTLOUI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [MNSTLOUI] Question about something on the census > Thank you everyone for your insight. I hadn't thought of it that way. I guess > it was pretty obvious now that I think about it. So I guess I have to stop > saying that I'm part French Canadian now that I know my relative was from the > english part of Canada. Was Victoria, Ontario in the English section or was it a > mixed area with french being spoken? > > Kim > > P.S. One more question I had. I remember recently that a list (I'm on so many) > mentioned that the spouse didn't have to get naturalized if the other spouse was > naturalized? On the census it reads as John was naturalized, but Fannie didn't > have dates, but she had what looks like "Un" for both columns under number of > years in the US and Naturalization. (this is also written under other people) > Wouldn't they have written down the no. of years she was in the US at least? > Does the UN stand for unknown? > > > Pgfhall2@aol.com wrote: > > > I've seen that listing before, along with "FR" beside my French-Canadians. I > > agree that it most likely means English Canada. >

I agree. French Canada usually means Quebec. The 1920 U.S. census sorts it out even better, including the "Mother Tongue" column in the regular population schedule. Locating families in French Canada is a special interest of mine as that is my own heritage. I can help if researchers will e-mail me directly. I'm not an expert, but I have conducted quite a few Quebec searches. The Quebec, Acadian and Louisiana French who were in the Mississippi drainage (Including those who were mixed Indian) are a special interest of mine and the Catholic families in general. So please write and ask questions. Kathie Donahue Spokane, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Peterson <carolbpeter@email.msn.com> To: <MNSTLOUI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 4:34 AM Subject: Re: [MNSTLOUI] Canadian censuses - French and English reference > I believe that Upper Canada (like Hudson Bay area) is the English speaking > Canada. It was controlled largley by the HBC. Lower Canada, which is now > mostly Quebec, was French Canada. This probably includes New Brunswick and > parts of Ontario. If you go to the Canada Genweb, I believe there are maps > that will show you the boundaries. > Carol Peterson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greenwood" <finn@ionet.net> > To: <MNSTLOUI-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 11:55 PM > Subject: [MNSTLOUI] Canadian censuses - French and English reference > > > > I, too have found in the 1900 census, references to Canada as being the > birthplace of someone's parent/s. On mine, it > > said " Fr " written above the word Canada. This has to refer to the > French-owned/French speaking area of Canada. In > > the same census, there also were the references to " Eng " written > likewise. > > > > Now if someone with a better retention of their Canadian history than > myself, can answer, I 'd like to know just which > > parts/provinces of Canada were French and which were English in 1900 ? > > > > Meg GREENWOOD / Oklahoma, USA > > >

And ... does anyone know how to obtain primary or secondary source marriage and death information for persons in Canada? I read that the census records are sealed from the public indefinitely. I've received information from a funeral home but of course it would fit my relative except for one anomaly. Thanks! Dorothy Greenwood wrote: > I, too have found in the 1900 census, references to Canada as being the birthplace of someone's parent/s. On mine, it > said " Fr " written above the word Canada. This has to refer to the French-owned/French speaking area of Canada. In > the same census, there also were the references to " Eng " written likewise. > > Now if someone with a better retention of their Canadian history than myself, can answer, I 'd like to know just which > parts/provinces of Canada were French and which were English in 1900 ? > > Meg GREENWOOD / Oklahoma, USA

I believe that Upper Canada (like Hudson Bay area) is the English speaking Canada. It was controlled largley by the HBC. Lower Canada, which is now mostly Quebec, was French Canada. This probably includes New Brunswick and parts of Ontario. If you go to the Canada Genweb, I believe there are maps that will show you the boundaries. Carol Peterson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greenwood" <finn@ionet.net> To: <MNSTLOUI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 11:55 PM Subject: [MNSTLOUI] Canadian censuses - French and English reference > I, too have found in the 1900 census, references to Canada as being the birthplace of someone's parent/s. On mine, it > said " Fr " written above the word Canada. This has to refer to the French-owned/French speaking area of Canada. In > the same census, there also were the references to " Eng " written likewise. > > Now if someone with a better retention of their Canadian history than myself, can answer, I 'd like to know just which > parts/provinces of Canada were French and which were English in 1900 ? > > Meg GREENWOOD / Oklahoma, USA >