This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/TJB.2ACI/1239.2 Message Board Post: I have a Ferdinand, b unknown, who had a son named Ferdinand, b Dec 2, 1834. I don't have anything else on this one. Ferdinand's brother Johann had a Ferdinand by each of two seperate marriages, one born (Feb 27, 1860) to Eva Mehler (my line, I descend from brother John) and the other born (Oct 30, 1869) to Kathrina Lenzen. Are you confused yet? I am.