This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TJB.2ACI/1043.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you. Yes, we have exchanged information on this family. The difficulty lies with the nationality of this pair, as records seem to contradict one another. And, the 1880 census does not seem to me to be the definitive document to prove the Franch and Luxembourg connection. The name Biever is a Luxembourger name, and occasionally is spelled as Biewer or Biver. It seem to me that I found one document that gave John's birthplace as Prussia, that is, the Eifel area which adjoins Luxembourg and which was part of Luxembourg in former days. I would have to pull out the records to verify this, but that is my recollection.