The old Anker Hospital was replaced by St. Paul-Ramsey Medical Center, downtown St. Paul. Midway Hospital was between I-94 and University Avenue and west of Snelling Avenue. Other downtown St. Paul hospitals: St. Leo's Hospital, St. Luke's and Children's Hospitals (now United Hospitals), Bethesda Hospital, St. Joseph's, St. John's, and Gillette Children's Hospital (attached to St. Paul-Ramsey).

There also was a hospital run by one of the railroads, I think Great Northern, it was just East of Snelling and North of University. Also the old Anker Hosp. on West 7th. If I am not mistaken the name of the hospital should be on your birth certificate. Al Dahlquist (visit my Web Parlour) http://hometown.aol.com/minifroggy/myhomepage/ Little Canada MN [email protected]

Off the top of my head, the only hospital I can think of that would be considered close to Mpls would be Midway Hospital, or the place on Como for unwed mothers. Seems like all the rest of the hospitals were/are in downtown St. Paul, with the exception of Gillette Childrens, which I think was still out on the east side, and St. Johns on the bluff. The VA is on the military reservation which is considered Hennepin County, and Vets is still in Hennepin County, as is the Uof M. The places most likely to be considered close to Minneapolis would be Roseville, St. Paul Campus (near the Como facility), along Como Avenue, along Larpentuer Avenue, anyplace east of Highway 280, Highland, and the only hospitals or medical facilities I can think of that far west are either of the above mentioned places. Can anybody think of one further west that I am missing? Annie in Minnesota

Does anyone have a city directory for about 1964? Perhaps Midway? I don't know if she's on our list, so please note her e-mail. Mary List Mom >To: "Coan, Sharon R" <[email protected]> >From: Mary Bakeman <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: Name of hospital > >At 01:24 PM 11/22/2005, you wrote: >>Hello, my name is Sharon and I was born in Ramsey County, in 1964. My >>parents lived in Minneapolis, but the hospital in St Paul (Ramsey County) >>was closest to where they lived so that’s where I was born…could you >>possibly provide me with the name of the hospital? Or are there really >>too many to choose from in that area? >> >>Thanks in advance, >> >>Sharon R Coan >>

I have posted 4 photos with a message on the Oslo Norway message board. If anyone can identify the picks I would appreciate the help to get the albums they came from back to the proper family. The message is at: _http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=message&r=rw&p=localities.scan-balt.nor way.counties.oslo&m=971_ (http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=message&r=rw&p=localities.scan-balt.norway.counties.oslo&m=971) Annie in Minnesota

I have some pics at DeadFred's which are not id'd. They seem to have a Norweigen connection as some are taken in Bergen and Christiana (which I am told is now Oslo), Norway. The rest are taken in Mple or St. Paul. (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11067) _1870s Man_ (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11067) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11067) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11067) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11075) _Baby Circa 1890_ (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11075) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11075) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11075) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11068) _C1860s Man_ (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11068) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11068) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11068) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11066) _C1870s Boy_ (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11066) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11066) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11066) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11073) _C1870s Stylish Woman_ (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11073) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11073) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11073) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11069) _C1870s Young Man_ (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11069) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11069) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11069) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11060) _C1880 Little Girl_ (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11060) _Clinton_ (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11060) _WI_ (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11060) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11049) _C1880s Lady With Flower_ (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11049) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11049) _MN_ (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11049) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11065) _C1880s Man_ (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11065) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11065) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11065) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11074) _C1880s Young Man_ (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11074) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11074) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11074) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11050) _C1890s Bride & Groom_ (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11050) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11050) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11050) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11064) _C1890s Young Man_ (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11064) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11064) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11064) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11062) _Rev. E._ (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11062) _Clinton_ (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11062) _WI_ (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11062) (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11054) _Two Teenage Girls_ (http://deadfred.com/surnamePersR_05.php?ID=11054) Annie in Minnesota

Can anyone help Mike? I don't have any other information. >From: "Mike Worcester" <[email protected]> >Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:22:17 -0600 >Subject: Ramsey County Geneaolgy Question > >I am trying to locate someone who posted a query on the Ramsey County >Genweb site >in January 2002. Her name is Jan Ingrid Olson-Yaden. The e-mail attached >to that >posting is no longer in use. Do you have any contact information? This >person is >researching a family that I am related to. Any help you could provide >would be great. > >Thank you, >Mike Worcester >Cokato, Minnesota Mary Bakeman [email protected] Ramsey MnGenWeb Coordintor http://www.parkbooks.com/MnGenWeb/ Park Genealogical Books http://www.parkbooks.com/

Can anyone help Joyce? Be sure to address her specifically, because I don't know if she's a member of our list. Note that we also have a swap page for exchanging research, or for hiring researchers. http://www.parkbooks.com/MnGenWeb/swap.html The Pioneer Press charges for the notices that are published, unless they write a 'news story' -- politician, business owner, clergy or high visibility volunteers, violent death or accident, etc. There are local weekly suburban newspapers, which sometimes carry obits when the family submits them. There are also professional journals -- e.g., for the MN Medical Association, Bar Association, etc. which might have an obit. And of course, probate records at the County Courthouse would include a list of descendants and locations. Mary Listmom >From: "Joyce Ward" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Subject: Ramsey County Query >Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 03:32:19 -0600 > >November 16, 2005, Joyce Erickson Ward, ><mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] > >I am searching for the obituary of my uncle, George Erickson who lived in >Ramsey County at the time of his death (as per Social Security Death >Index). He was born on August 29, 1920 in Middlebury, Addison County, >Vermont. He and his family moved away over 40 years ago and I lost touch >with my cousins. Sure hope someone can help me find a copy of his >obituary....and thanks always volunteers for doing such a great >job! Joyce Ward Mary Bakeman [email protected] Ramsey MnGenWeb Coordintor http://www.parkbooks.com/MnGenWeb/ Park Genealogical Books http://www.parkbooks.com/

Vital records were not required until 1870, though some were kept before that date. They have been microfilmed and are available through the Family History Libraries. A cemetery search may be of help -- Ramsey County cemeteries, religious affiliations and their opening dates are listed at <http://www.parkbooks.com/MnGenWeb/cem.html> Can any one provide any additional help? Note the separate e-mail address, and include it in your response. Jayme may not be a member of this list. Mary >From: "Jayme Anderson" <[email protected]> >Subject: Seeking Obit or death record >Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:31:20 +0100 > >Hello, > >My Ramsey County connection is the HUGHES family. They left St. Paul area >sometime around 1871-72. We are most certain that Edwin Hughes' wife >Elizabeth Ann White Hughes (also known as Anna L.) died in this area (1870 >Census Ramsey County, St. Paul, Ward 4, Minnesota). Edwin remarried in KS >or Nebraska area before 1880 Census. We would like to find her death >record, burial or obit if she (Elizabeth "Anna" Hughes) passed away in >Ramsey County. Can anyone assist us in this lookup request? Thank you. > >Jayme

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I know that Social Security death records are on line. But, are Railroad Retirement records available? Any help appreciated. Peggy

Mary, I've used your research notes many times to help in my research and point me in new directions. Thank you for sharing your expertise. It's just a great thing that you do and just want you to know, it's much appreciated. Shawne FitzGerald Mary Bakeman wrote: > Our new Minnesota research for November discusses official record > keeping of vital statistics for Minnesota marriages, births and > deaths. There are links to the on-line indexes, what records exist > that are NOT on the indexes, and ideas for places to look. >

Our new Minnesota research for November discusses official record keeping of vital statistics for Minnesota marriages, births and deaths. There are links to the on-line indexes, what records exist that are NOT on the indexes, and ideas for places to look. The Minnesota Research page can be found at http://www.parkbooks.com/Html/research.html with links to this new page and others. Be sure to sign up to get your personal notice when new notes are added! Mary Mary Bakeman [email protected] Park Genealogical Books http://www.parkbooks.com

Isn't it wonderful how a seemingly simple question can take us on a trip down memory lane? Thought I would throw in my two cents on this one. My memories of downtown extend back only to the mid to late 1950s, when I sold the Pioneer Press newspaper, after school in downtown businesses, and on downtown street corners. Much of my time was spent in the "lower" part of St. Paul - which basically refers to Lowertown - named originally for the lower (most southern) steamboat landing at the foot of Jackson St. (The Uppertown neighborhood was named for the upper (northern most) landing at the foot of Chestnut St., near Irvine Park.) Historically, the "Lowertown" neighborhood started at Jackson St., and extended east to the Trout Brook valley, a couple blocks beyond Lafayette St. The neighborhood's southern boundary was the Mississippi River, and the northern boundary - 15th St. (now University Ave.). All of the original residential portion of Lowertown (which dated from the 1850s) is gone, all of its schools, and most of its churches have also disappeared. Only two of the original Lowertown congregations remain - the First Baptist Church, and St. Mary's Catholic Church. When a person uses the word "lower" to describe a part of downtown, they are also likely referring to the fact that downtown is separated topographically into a lower, and an upper part. Along several blocks of N. Wabasha St., (which runs north from the Mississippi River), there is a natural shelf formed by the limestone, which the central business district is built on. East of Wabasha St., the paths of Kellogg Blvd. (old Third St.), Fourth St., Fifth St., Sixth St., and Seventh St., descend hills to a lower part of the downtown district. So if you are anywhere east of Cedar Street in the downtown area, you would be in the "lower" part of St. Paul. As far as the furniture stores in the 1930s and 1940s, they were concentrated in the "lower" part of downtown St. Paul, and the most popular address was on E. 7th St. (a major thoroughfare and streetcar route). You could have your pick of more than a dozen stores to purchase new furniture, and another dozen or more to purchase "second hand" furniture. Many of the most popular stores have been mentioned in previous posted messages, during the last couple days, but you may find others (some long forgotten) on the lists below. As a downtown paperboy during the late 1950s, I witnessed the closing of many of these shops, and the demolition of the buildings which housed them. 1930 Retail Furniture Stores in "Lower" St. Paul: Annex Furniture Co., 181 E. 7th St. Borg & Powers Furniture Co., 8th cor Minnesota R. N. Cardozo & Bro., Inc., 140-144 E. 7th St. Emporium Mercantile Co., (Dept. Store), 7th & Robert Aaron Freeman Furniture, 385 E. 7th St. Golden Rule (Department Store), 7th & Robert Imperial Furniture Co., 7th cor Sibley Jacobs Furniture, 44 8th St. Jameson-Hevener Co., 461 Temperance St. Clarence H. Johnson, 639 Jackson St. Lovich Bros., 197 E. 7th Minnesota Furniture Co., 170 E. 7th St. St. Paul House Furnishing Co., Inc., 6th & Minnesota Standard Furniture Co., 208 E. 7th St. Michael Sullivan, 224 E. 7th St. Weyand Furniture Co., 156-160 E. 7th, cor Jackson 1944 Retail Furniture Stores in "Lower" St. Paul: B & M Furniture Mart, 109 E. 6th St. Borg & Powers Furniture, Inc., 81 8th cor Minnesota Butwinick Bros., 224 E. 7th Cardozo's, 7th & Minnesota Emporium (Dept. Store), 7th & Robert Golden Rule (Dept. Store), 7th & Robert Edward Hoffman Co., 452 Robert cor 8th Minnesota Furniture Co., 170 E. 7th Paymar Furniture Co., 250 E. 7th St. St. Paul House Furnishing Co., Inc., 71-79 E. 6th St. Standard Furniture Co., 212 E. 7th St. (and 412 Cedar) Weyand Furniture Co., 156-160 E. 7th cor Jackson Hope this helps. If you have any specific questions, please don't hesitate to ask. > Original query: > >>My mother, age 88+, refers to a furniture store in “lower St. Paul”… > >>Time frame would be 1930’s -40’s > >>Not sure where to find this information as “mother” cannot remember a > >>name for the store just that it was in lower St. Paul. > >>Thanks for any help > >> > >>Jo Tambornino Chayer > >><mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] > >> > >>God give me the patience so that the experiences of my life will teach me > >>lessons you want me to learn... > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

In a message dated 10/23/2005 4:36:18 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: or B&M Furniture? Thanks Ruth!! I knew there was a third one down there and my mind kept coming up blank. B&M was it!! It and Butwinicks each took up a block each, if I remember correctly, right next to each other on 7th Street. Annie in Minnesota

In a message dated 10/23/2005 1:35:11 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Cardozo's Yeah, that is it. But I still think there was another one, too. If I remember correctly there were furniture stores from about Jackson on 7th Street east to Wall. Annie in MInnesota

I am also interested in what area was considered Lower St Paul. I lived there between 1926 and 1949 and have visited often over the years. I remember Cardozo's as being on W. 7th st downtown. Joan Schneider Born-----Researching Surnames: BORN, HERRMANN, HUNA, BENESCH /// SCHNEIDER, LIEBL, YOUNG, LENG// TURBES. ROSS (ROSSEN), CHRISTEN, GROSJEAN, KNOTT, MURGES, BRAND, KLINKERS, HAMMES, HENGES (HENSGES or HENSGENS)and KOENIGS

Hi, I am not sure what she means by lower St Paul.........I know od Paymar furniture on Payne Avenue and Butwinick furniture ....I think on Seventh Street. I have been away from St Paul for many years...can someone let me know what is meant by lower St Paul please??? Miriam Hartman Mason [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Nerud" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 2:38 AM Subject: Re: [mnramsey] Fwd: Re: St. Paul Furniture Store > Maybe it was Cardozo's - or B&M Furniture? > > Ruth Nerud > [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Bakeman" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 9:20 PM > Subject: [mnramsey] Fwd: Re: St. Paul Furniture Store > > >> >>>To: <[email protected]> >>>Subject: Re: St. Paul Furniture Store >> >> Can anyone help her? I don't have any city directories which would provide >> the answer. >> Be sure to include her in your addressing as I don't know if she's a >> member of our list. >> >> Mary >> List Mom >> >> >> >>>At 09:11 PM 10/22/2005, you wrote: >>>>My mother, age 88+, refers to a furniture store in "lower St. Paul". >>>>Time frame would be 1930's -40's >>>>Not sure where to find this information as "mother" cannot remember a >>>>name for the store just that it was in lower St. Paul. >>>>Thanks for any help >>>> >>>>Jo Tambornino Chayer >>>><mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] >>>> >>>>God give me the patience so that the experiences of my life will teach me >>>>lessons you want me to learn... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >> > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Maybe it was Cardozo's - or B&M Furniture? Ruth Nerud [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Bakeman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 9:20 PM Subject: [mnramsey] Fwd: Re: St. Paul Furniture Store > >>To: <[email protected]> >>Subject: Re: St. Paul Furniture Store > > Can anyone help her? I don't have any city directories which would provide > the answer. > Be sure to include her in your addressing as I don't know if she's a > member of our list. > > Mary > List Mom > > > >>At 09:11 PM 10/22/2005, you wrote: >>>My mother, age 88+, refers to a furniture store in "lower St. Paul". >>>Time frame would be 1930's -40's >>>Not sure where to find this information as "mother" cannot remember a >>>name for the store just that it was in lower St. Paul. >>>Thanks for any help >>> >>>Jo Tambornino Chayer >>><mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] >>> >>>God give me the patience so that the experiences of my life will teach me >>>lessons you want me to learn... >>> >>> >>> >>> > > > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

>To: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: St. Paul Furniture Store Can anyone help her? I don't have any city directories which would provide the answer. Be sure to include her in your addressing as I don't know if she's a member of our list. Mary List Mom >At 09:11 PM 10/22/2005, you wrote: >>My mother, age 88+, refers to a furniture store in “lower St. Paul”… >>Time frame would be 1930’s -40’s >>Not sure where to find this information as “mother” cannot remember a >>name for the store just that it was in lower St. Paul. >>Thanks for any help >> >>Jo Tambornino Chayer >><mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] >> >>God give me the patience so that the experiences of my life will teach me >>lessons you want me to learn... >> >> >> >>