Can anyone help? It might take a look at a death cert at MHS. Again -- note her address. I don't know if she's on our list or not. Mary Listmom >February 1, 2006, Geraldine Hyde, ><mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] > >Hello - I am trying to ascertain if George Buck Walker who died on >June 30, 1995 (born April 30, 1916 in St. Paul) was the son of >George Barney Walker and Berry B. Walker. It appears that he might >have been; however, his father's obituary notice of May 23/24/1932 >in the St. Paul paper called the son "Barney". George Barney >Walker was my mother's uncle, and George Buck Walker might have been >my mother's cousin. I am writing a book containing the history of >our Walker, etc., families. > I really don't need the actual records, just the information on > George Buck Walker's parents. > If you can help me, I shall be very, very appreciative. > Thank you, > Gerry Hyde

Can anyone help? Note Cindy's address --- I don't know if she's on our list or not. Mary Listmom >FIRE 1888 ST. PAUL, MN - Ladd Burmaster & family, daughter perished >in fire. Anyone with info about where Ladd, Agnes, or the children >went after that? [email protected]

Can anyone help her? Since I don't know if she's on our list or not, be sure to send a copy of your response directly to her. Also note that the Minnesota Historical Society has microfilms of most newspapers that have been published in Minnesota, beginning with the Minnesota Pioneer in 1849 and extending to the current day. They have a special newspaper database on their website <http://www.mnhs.org/> which details their holdings and can be searched by city, county, dates, etc. (not names though!). The microfilms are available on interlibrary loan to most public libraries in the U.S. Check with your friendly local reference librarian for details! Personally, I find reading the old newspapers a hoot! The ads, the gossip columns, the op-ed pages, etc. all provide a sense of what it was like to live in the particular time period. And wouldn't a review of the play be a wonderful addition to the family history. Mary Listmom >From: "Joan Thomas" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Subject: RAMSEY COUNTY QUERY >Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:52:26 -0800 > >22 Jan 2006, Joan Thomas, ><mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] > >I am looking for information on Alma PRYOR, who died in St. Paul on >29 Mar 1908, at age 22. She was with the Keith and Orpheum Circuit >and was likely playing in a St Paul theater that month. Since her >death was a homicide, it is possible it was reported in the >newspaper that week. Any information will be greatfully received. >

Dear Readers, For the record - The township of White Bear was not organized until 1858, so the name did not appear in the 1850 U.S. Federal Census. There were white settlers in the area as early as the mid-1840s. Felix Peloquin owned 40 acres in Section 25 of White Bear Township in 1880.

Can anyone help? Many of the early residents of Ramsey County are included on Paul Lareau's "Pigs Eye NotePad, 1830-1850" <http://www.lareau.org/pep.html> , along with a listing of some excellent resources. Note Roland's e-mail address -- I don't know if he's on our mailing list or not. Mary List Mom At 05:45 AM 1/13/2006, you wrote: >Seeking info ( descendants ) of Felix Peloquin , in 1850 census >White Bear,Ramsey,MN ; then 39 years old, reported married. Father >of said Felix Peloquin is Joseph Peloquin mother Theotiste Lavallee >both of St Pierre ,Sorel, Canada > >Seeking possible place of interment , catholic parish ,but >preferably leads on descendants > >Roland B. Peloquin >218 Sunrise Blvd DeBary,FL 32713-3915 > > ><mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]

Can anyone help him out? I just added him to our surname list, too. http://www.parkbooks.com/MnGenWeb/surnames.html Mary >My great grandfather, a great uncle, my grandfather and his first >wife are all in the St Paul city directory 1889-1891 at 998 Farrington Avenue. >Their names are John (teamster), Frank P (blacksmith), Thomas E >(teamster), and Phoebe A respectively. If anyone can let me know of >further listings of these folks, it would be very much appreciated. > >I'm assuming that while the above part of the family was in St Paul >working, the rest were in Mulligan Twp, MN on the farm most likely >working very hard too. Those that were back at the farm may have >included John's wife Margaret, their daughters Ellen, Margaret, and >Mary Ann, their youngest son William W, a great aunt Bridget, and my >great great grandparents Thomas and Mary. All of these people are Dolans. > > > >

My grandfather, George E. Swanson, told me many years ago that he was a boxer around the St. Paul area sometime in the early 1900's. He even showed me a picture of himself that he carried with him and he said that he was known as "Kid Kelly." He was born in LeSueur, MN in 1888 and was married in Huron, SD in 1909. I checked on the Internet under boxing, but records weren't kept until 1909 to the present day. Can someone help me if there is some place or someone who could steer me in the right direction if there is information about boxers during that time period? Thank you. Deb - Wisconsin --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever.

The census taker seems to insist on spelling it with "Sh". Donna, I will email you the pages from 1900. I can find Joseph, senior and sons Anton and Joseph, all three spelled differently.

Someone must have given you some wrong information. The Joseph Sindelar (with many various spellings) family were residents of Ward 4 (not Ward 5) of the City of St. Paul in 1880, and for several years before that. I am not sure where they were in 1870 - I have not checked the census. Ward 4 encompassed a large portion of the western part of the city, and Ward 5 encompassed a large portion of the eastern part of the city, in both 1870 and 1880. The published St. Paul City Directories, clearly trace the family from at least 1873 and later, and during that entire time, the Sindelar's were residents of what was then Ward 4. From at least 1873, to about 1879, the family was living on the Upper Levee, somewhere near Western Ave. - - one of the many Bohemian squatter enclaves during that time. Around 1880, the family moved to No. 11, Toronto Street, (just north of Randolph Ave.), a small frame house, (which would later be renumbered 473 Toronto St.), and lived there for several years. The family does not seem to be listed (under any spelling) in the 1869, or the 1871 volume of the St. Paul City Directory, and there was no directory published in 1872. The Sindelar's appear first in the 1873 volume, living on the Upper Levee. The "Upper Levee" was the flood plain for the Mississippi River, and extended from near downtown St. Paul, westward for a couple of miles, on the east side of the river. Many immigrant families found their first homes on the river "flats" or "levee", as it was known. The name "upper" means that it was land adjacent to the Upper (northern most) steamboat landing in St. Paul, which was located at the foot of Chestnut St. The Lower Landing was at the foot of Jackson St. The Sindelar's would have had neighbors mostly composed of fellow Bohemians, and most of them recent arrivals to the U.S. Some of these early settlements on the levee survived into the mid-1950s, when they were finally cleared away, after being declared "slums" by the city. When they moved to their home on Toronto St. in about 1880, the Sindelar's were taking a giant step up the economic ladder. Although the house was modest, and was one of two small houses, sited on the same small lot, the area was considered a "regular" neighborhood of the city, and not a "squatter settlement" - - like the Upper Levee. By "squatter", I am referring to the fact that the family may have owned the home, but not the land it was sitting on. They likely paid a monthly or annual rent for the land to a local real estate dealer. Within a few years of moving to Toronto St. (about a 1/2 mile from their Upper Levee home) the Sindelar's would have found a nearby Bohemian church to attend, (there were three in the neighborhood), and dozens of Bohemian shops to patronize along West Seventh St. - the main thoroughfare in the neighborhood. Joseph is first listed in the directories as a common laborer, and later as a stonemason. This was quite common for Bohemian immigrants - - most were common laborers, and many were trained stonemasons - who found work in the many neighborhood limestone quarries. By the way - although the name is clearly the Czech name: Sindelar (no punctuation shown here), I found these spellings in the early city directories for Joseph: Shinderhaust, Schinderus, Shindeller, Shinderlos, Shindelos, Shindelar - in the 1873 - 1882 volumes. Hope this helps. [email protected] wrote: > Seeking further information on Joseph Schindelus (various > spellings) born > about 1843 in Bohemia. He married Josephine (maiden name > unknown). > They were living in St. Paul Ward 5 on the 1870 & 1880 > census. > Thank you. > Donna >

Seeking further information on Joseph Schindelus (various spellings) born about 1843 in Bohemia. He married Josephine (maiden name unknown). They were living in St. Paul Ward 5 on the 1870 & 1880 census. Thank you. Donna

Dear Pam & List Members, From Donald Empson's - "The Street Where You Live", A guide to the street names of St. Paul, privately published in 1975 (and which I had fun helping him with): Burg Street - Leo J. Burg of Hennepin County was the mortgagee on this property when it was subdivided in 1926. Look soon for Empson's new (updated and enlarged) volume of the book to be published in early 2006! Best regards, Jim Sazevich, Historian St. Paul, Minnesota

Hi Pam, I work with the Ramsey County Historical Society in downtown St Paul. The best resource for street names is a book named Streets Where You Live by Don Epsom --- heard he is working on a 2nd book :) ... It is hard to come by. I am up at the lake right now so I can't look Burg up for you. Someone else may be able to get the definition to you sooner. But, you can alway give me a call at RCHS and I can look up a street for you OR ask here OR keep a lookout for the book. Don did an awesome job on his research for the street names - Regards, Jana Armstead RCHS - 651-222-0701 -----Original Message----- From: Pam Burg <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 05:04:58 -0600 Subject: [mnramsey] Street Names I know the history of some of the street names in St. Paul, but my cousin recently discovered a Burg Avenue. I was wondering, how do you go about finding out why the street was named Burg. Would this information be available in print somewhere? Thanks, Pam ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

I know the history of some of the street names in St. Paul, but my cousin recently discovered a Burg Avenue. I was wondering, how do you go about finding out why the street was named Burg. Would this information be available in print somewhere? Thanks, Pam

Hello List, Just wondering if there is an index for Oakland cemetery in St. Paul? The reason that I ask is that I still don't know the place of burial for my Great Grandfather, Oliver WALSH that died in St. Paul on March 23, 1909 and because I recently was sent the obit on his mother Mrs. Jemina E. SHIRLEY and this is where it says that she is buried. Thanks, Connie Westcott --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year.

The Methodists have not been as diligent about microfilming church records as some of the other denominations. Two suggestions: * Check with the Archivist at the Minnesota Annual Conference Archives -- it's on Franklin in Minneapolis -- the long-time archivist Thelma Boeder has retired, but there's a new person on board. I think the number is 612/870-0058, ext. 249 (and you can key that in too). She can tell you which is the current church and give you the address, or what books are in the archives themselves. * You might want to look for Norwegian Methodist Churches too -- they were sometimes separate and sometimes joined, depending on whether a pastor who could speak the language was available. They should be listed in city directories for the period, some of which are on-line. Our Ramsey Swap page may have them, too http://www.parkbooks.com/Html/swap.html Good luck! Mary Listmom At 01:34 PM 12/19/2005, Bart Hansen wrote: >Hi list, > >I am looking for films of church books for any Swedish Methodist churches >that may have been in operation in East Side St Paul in the 1880s and 1890s. > >I checked the LDS site and found that only five churches are listed >under their >Church Records headings. That seems a very low number to me, but I think >I did my checking correctly. > >Specifically, I am looking for Swedish Methodist churches that my ancestors >may have attended who lived in the 500 and 600 blocks of E. Maryland St >(just west of Payne) during the 1880s & 1890s. They were from Norway, & >presumably of Lutheran background, but were married in Red Wing in 1882 >by a minister of the above church denomination, C.F. Lindquist. > >Does anyone know of a source for these church records? > >Thanks, >Bart > > >============================== >Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Hi list, I am looking for films of church books for any Swedish Methodist churches that may have been in operation in East Side St Paul in the 1880s and 1890s. I checked the LDS site and found that only five churches are listed under their Church Records headings. That seems a very low number to me, but I think I did my checking correctly. Specifically, I am looking for Swedish Methodist churches that my ancestors may have attended who lived in the 500 and 600 blocks of E. Maryland St (just west of Payne) during the 1880s & 1890s. They were from Norway, & presumably of Lutheran background, but were married in Red Wing in 1882 by a minister of the above church denomination, C.F. Lindquist. Does anyone know of a source for these church records? Thanks, Bart

Good morning List, Wondering if someone could check on this for me? All the records that I have on my mother's Uncle Edward John Walsh states that he was born on July 3, 1900 until just recently when I found his Draft Registration on-line which states he was born July 3, 1899. His parents were Oliver WALSH and Elizabeth (Lizzie) ENGLEMAN. Thanks, Connie Westcott __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Thanks, Jana, for your help! Mary, list mom >Thread-Topic: Hartshorn: looked up at the Ramsey County Historical Society >From: "Jana Armstead" <[email protected]> > >Hello, > >I took some time and looked up information on the HARTSHORN family >that was requested back on September 4th. I hope this helps. > >Note: that I did spell the names EXACTLY as they appeared those >years. We do not have a 1939, 1943 or 1945 city directory > >Regards, > >Jana Armstead >Research and Building Permit Requests >Ramsey County Historical Society >75 W. St. #323 >St Paul, MN 55102 >Phone: 651-222-0701 >Fax: 651-223-8539 >Support the "Ask a Historian" Project and others like it >by joining the Ramsey County Historical Society! > >JOIN NOW <http://www.rchs.com/membrshp.htm> using this link >http://www.rchs.com/membrshp.htm > > > >The request was: > >I am looking for any and all information on Corinne Hartshorn who >lived in St Paul Minn. Around 1941 with her mother Viola F >Hartshorn, step father Sam Green, brother, Marion Roseby, Manuel >Roseby and Andrew Hartshorn. They may have been living on the West Side. > >Thanks, >[email protected] > > > >What I found: > >Polk Co, St Paul, MN City Directories >Just about every address listed below was/is located along what is >now highway 94. None of these addresses are on the 'west side'. At >one time Francis lived directly across the street from a Sam Green, >therefore making us think this is the correct Sam Green that >correlates with the previous years, even though he moved around a lot. > >1938: > >Corinne Hartshorn Smstrs_503 St Anthony >Mrs. Francis Hartshorn_503 St Anthony >Sam Green_Laborer_272 Rondo Ave > >1940: > >Andrew and Ruth P. Hartshorn_Handyman w Catholic Digest_222 Rondo Ave >Mrs Francis Hartshorn_589 Arundel >Emanuel Roseby_Waiter_589 Arundel >there was a Sam Green as a laborer living at 272 Rondo > >1941: > >Andrew and Ruth P. Hartshorn_Handyman w Catholic Digest_222 Rondo Ave >Mrs Francis Hartshorn_333 N. Dale St. >Corine_Smstrs_333 N. Dale St. >EM [email protected] MN Club_474 St Anthony >there was a Sam Green as a laborer living at 450 St Anthony apt 1 > >1942: > > >Andrew and Ruth P. Hartshorn_Handyman w Catholic Digest_222 Rondo Ave >Francis Hartshorn (widow Chas)_448 St Anthony >Emanuel M Roseby_Waiter @ MN Club_448 St Anthony >Marion Roseby_Waiter @ MN Club_448 St Anthony >Sam Green_Porter_FJ Donnel_551 Carroll Ave > >1944: > >Andrew and Ruth P. Hartshorn_Handyman w Catholic Digest_222 Rondo Ave >Raymond M Hartshorn_Bottler for Theo Hamm_lived in Rosemount, MN >Sam green_Porter_FJ Donnell_447 St Anthony >Merion Roseby_Waiter GNRY (Great Northern Railways) > >1946: > >Andrew and Ruth P. Hartshorn_Handyman w Catholic Digest_222 Rondo Ave >Ruth D_Woodworker Villaume Box Co > > > > > > >

>Subject: RAMSEY COUNTY QUERY >Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 16:55:22 -0800 >From: "Kelley, Kimberley S" <[email protected]> Happy Thanksgiving! Can anyone help Kim? - Note her e-mail address as I don't know if she's a member of our list or not. Basic info for all: we have a swap page at <http://www.parkbooks.com/Html/swap.html> that lists people who will either swap research or do lookups like the following for a fee. The MN Historical Society on their death certificate index also offers this service. The St. Paul newspapers have charged for obituaries for a long time, and many times are just death notices -- when and where services will be held. However, the death certificate itself may list parents's names, and that's available on microfilm at the MN Hist. also. Lots of alternatives! Mary List mom >11/23/2005, Kim Kelley, <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] > >I am seeking the obituary for Mary (Kelly) Driscoll, died 26 June 1915, >Ramsey County, MN...State file/certificate number: 022103; Record # 170678. > >I believe she is my paternal g-grandfather's sister. >Any assistance is most appreciated, > >Sinerely, > >Kim Kelley > >

In a message dated 11/23/2005 12:08:09 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Gillette Children's Hospital That used to be on the east side, on Ivy I think. Annie in Minnesota