I have accessed the church book records (Chisago Lake Lutheran, Center City) which states that one of my ancestors died at the state hospital in St. Peter, MN, ca. 1889-90. Do any of our Listers know if MHS may have health or death records for patients of this hospital, for this time period? Any other ideas of if or where such records may exist? My question is generic at present, since details of the church book death entry are not at hand. (I've recently moved.) However, I can tell you this much about the person in question: Name: Anna (Adamsdotter) Andersson (or Anderson) Birthdate: 08 June 1825 Birthplace: Warshult Söregård, Sold.torp nr 19, Åseda, SWEDEN Anna was the widow of: Johan Andersson/Anderson; Chisago Co., MN) b. 17 Aug 1828 - Botillaboda, Älghult, Kronobergs Län, SWEDEN d. 23 Feb 1889 - Chisago Co., MN I'm a recently "transplanted" Minnesotan, now living in NW Arkansas; but I plan to be in St. Paul in July and hope to visit MHS then. But it would certainly be helpful to know ahead of time if such records even exist. Thanks so very much, in advance, for any info or research tips re- this request. Lois Johnson Fayetteville, Arkansas

I'm interested in this question/answer also. I have an ancestor who was at St. Peter State Hospital prior to 1970, and was told by multiple hospital personnel that the records from that time period and before have been destroyed. Sharon ----- Original Message ----- | Do any of our Listers know if MHS may have health or death records for | patients of this hospital, for this time period? Any other ideas of if or where | such records may exist? it would | certainly be helpful to know ahead of time if such records even exist. | | Thanks so very much, in advance, for any info or research tips re- this | request. |

Can anyone help Jeff? I don't have any city directories available, just the death listings reference, and that doesn't have occupations or addresses. There is only on Kiefer listed in that source (Andrew), and no Keifers or Kaifers, with or without a double-f. I'm not sure he's on our list, so please note his e-mail address and correspond directly with him. Thanks! Mary, Listmom >I'm trying to determine if the John & Barbara Keifer listed in the >1880 census for St. >Paul are my uncle and his wife, who immigrated from Germany in >1872. So far this >census entry is the only thing I've been able to find on >them. Could you check your St. >Paul city directories to see if they have any listings? More info >on them is: John >Keifer/Johannes Kaifer, born in Karlich, Rhineland, Prussia October >24, 1830. Married >Barbara Pinger March 5, 1854 in Karlich. Barbara was born December >24, 1829 in >Forst Cochem, Rhineland, Prussia. His occupation was hotel/saloon keeper. > >Any help you can give will be greatly appreciated. > >Sincerely, > >Jeff Cyr >Austin, Texas "Jeff Cyr" <[email protected]>

>From: [email protected] >Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 07:03:54 EDT >Subject: RAMSEY COUNTY QUERY > >April 8, 2006 Patricia >Bronson <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] > >Seeking an obituary on VESTER TRIVETTE who died October 17th, 1968 >Ramsey County, or, information on how and where I might obtain an >obituary that may list family members. Can anyone help? Please respond directly to Patricia. Incidentally, the MN Historical Society has most of the newspapers ever published in the state on microfilm -- they are available through interlibrary loan at most local public libraries. MHS also provides a lookup service -- reasonably priced. Do note that the St. Paul Pioneer Press/Dispatch for this time period charged for obituaries, especially those that are lengthy and meaty for family historians. You have a better shot of getting a nice one from community newspapers, such as those published for White Bear Lake or one of the other suburban communities. But nothing ventured, nothing gained! Mary -- List mom Mary Bakeman [email protected] Ramsey MnGenWeb Coordintor http://www.parkbooks.com/MnGenWeb/ Park Genealogical Books http://www.parkbooks.com/ ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

>From: [email protected] >Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 07:03:54 EDT >Subject: RAMSEY COUNTY QUERY > >April 8, 2006 Patricia >Bronson <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] > >Seeking an obituary on VESTER TRIVETTE who died October 17th, 1968 >Ramsey County, or, information on how and where I might obtain an >obituary that may list family members. > Can anyone help? Please respond directly to Patricia. Incidentally, the MN Historical Society has most of the newspapers ever published in the state on microfilm -- they are available through interlibrary loan at most local public libraries. MHS also provides a lookup service -- reasonably priced. Do note that the St. Paul Pioneer Press/Dispatch for this time period charged for obituaries, especially those that are lengthy and meaty for family historians. You have a better shot of getting a nice one from community newspapers, such as those published for White Bear Lake or one of the other suburban communities. But nothing ventured, nothing gained! Mary -- List mom Mary Bakeman [email protected] Ramsey MnGenWeb Coordintor http://www.parkbooks.com/MnGenWeb/ Park Genealogical Books http://www.parkbooks.com/

Another request for information on a WW-II serviceman from Ramsey County. Can anyone help? Mary Listmom >From: "barry poulter" <[email protected]> >Subject: RAMSEY COUNTY QUERY >Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 21:15:28 +0000 > >1ST APRIL 2006 BARRY POULTER email ><http://by109fd.bay109.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/compose?mailto=1&msg=67371DB2-0A6E-4EF3-BE02-3F736EC3A179&start=0&len=3414&src=&type=x&[email protected]&cc=&bcc=&subject=&body=&curmbox=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000001&a=fd63f3dfa0de6feb69ecd00cd462e9688bee34c215efdb7e29f0bc246ff47dd6>[email protected] >or ><http://by109fd.bay109.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/compose?mailto=1&msg=67371DB2-0A6E-4EF3-BE02-3F736EC3A179&start=0&len=3414&src=&type=x&[email protected]&cc=&bcc=&subject=&body=&curmbox=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000001&a=fd63f3dfa0de6feb69ecd00cd462e9688bee34c215efdb7e29f0bc246ff47dd6>[email protected] > >I am trying to find any information on the follow person >William E Baker army service number 37162569 company I 3rd Battilion >502nd Parachute Infantry Regiment,101st Airborne killed in action >Holland 19.9.1944 during operation Market Garden buried at Margraten >Holland grave ref A-4-31 >One of the members of the majordickwinters.com web site has adopted >the grave and would like to find out more about the person, any help >would be appreciated, or if you could point me in the right >direction. We know he came from Ramsey County, we would like to know >if any family still live there and that we could make contact with. >Many thanks >Barry Poulter

Can anyone help Nick? Note his e-mail. I don't know if he's on our mailing list or not. I'm assuming that he's aware that military records for U.S. troops are maintained at the Federal level, and not at the county or state level. But the family info -- addresses from city directories, occupation, etc. -- would be here. Mary Listmom >From: "Nicholas Hough" <[email protected]> >Subject: RAMSEY COUNTY QUERY >Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:02:16 +0100 > >31 March 2006, Nicholas Hough, [email protected] > > >Looking for information on a Pvt William E Baker (Army number, >37162569) who lived in Ramsey County. Only information I have available is: >Name: William E Baker >State: Ramsey county Minnesota, USA >Rank: Private >Unit: 502th parachute infantry, 101st airborne division, I Co, 3rd Btn >Died: 19 Sept 1944 > >Any information regarding William, or his family, much appreciated. > >Regards >Nick > Mary Bakeman [email protected] Ramsey MnGenWeb Coordintor http://www.parkbooks.com/MnGenWeb/ Park Genealogical Books http://www.parkbooks.com/

1930 census image sent for Elida Koke birth info for Elida Koke and her children Donald and Charles Van Kirk as well as death info also sent also obit for Donald >Hi, I am asking for anyone's help locating the cemetery where Louis >Van Kirk is buried along with his wife Elida. Louis died November >28, 1968 in St. Paul, Ramsey Co. Minnesota and his wife Elida died >July ___, 1984 in St. Paul, Ramsey Co. Minnesota. > >If someone who locate an obit that would help as I am looking for >Louis Van Kirk and his wife Elida _________ children: Charles Van >Kirk, Luida Van Kirk and Donald Van Kirk. > >Any help would be great. I am unable to pay as I am out of work and >have no income at all and living at home. So any help would be wondering.

Anyone interested in doing a lookup for him? Often the cemetery is listed on the death certificate -- and if it isn't, he can write to the funeral director who will be listed. Note his e-mail address below -- I'm not sure he is on our list. Death notices are much more likely in the St. Paul newspapers than full obituaries, such as are seen in less urban settings, unless there was something newsworthy about the death -- important position held such as government or business official, murder, highway (which usually doesn't involve much genealogical information), or something that attracts the news hawks. But one just doesn't know unless one looks! Your local library may be able to get the newspapers on Inter Library Loan for you from the MN Historical Society, at a reasonable cost (some even free), so that you can check them yourselves. It's fun to read the ads, the editorials, etc. to get some clues about your ancestor's surroundings. Mary List Mom >Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 22:19:54 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) >From: "Michael Alan Hunter" <[email protected]> >Subject: Ramsey County Query > >March 27, 2006 Michael A. >Hunter <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] > >ASKING FOR HELP FINDING SOMEONE BURIED IN ST. PAUL, RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA > >Hi, I am asking for anyone's help locating the cemetery where Louis >Van Kirk is buried along with his wife Elida. Louis died November >28, 1968 in St. Paul, Ramsey Co. Minnesota and his wife Elida died >July ___, 1984 in St. Paul, Ramsey Co. Minnesota. > >If someone who locate an obit that would help as I am looking for >Louis Van Kirk and his wife Elida _________ children: Charles Van >Kirk, Luida Van Kirk and Donald Van Kirk. > >Any help would be great. I am unable to pay as I am out of work and >have no income at all and living at home. So any help would be wondering. > >Thank you, >Michael A. Hunter >102 Wayne Hunter Road >Waddington, New York 13694-3139 ><mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]

My name is Jeanne, and I live outside Billings, Montana. Personally, I have had great response from LIST members in my own family searches; they are the most knowledgeable persons about their particular areas, and I have found them to be generous with their time and help as well. Now I've become a last-minute volunteer helping U of Montana students looking for more information about a group of more than 70 men and women imprisoned in Montana in 1918 during WWI for speaking out against the government (information below). The student project is seeking pardons for these people, and MT Gov. Schweitzer has been approached re. his approval of the pardons. He has not made a decision as yet, but the project faculty/students want to be prepared in the event he does give his approval and a pardoning ceremony can be arranged for sometime in April. Therefore, we need to work toward finding the descendants below now, so they can be contacted and make plans to attend any ceremony that might be held. (My Minnesota cousin's grandfather was one of these people, and she is so very excited at the prospect of seeing her grandfather pardoned; she is looking forward to hopefully going to Helena, along with other members of her family.) This project has been in th! e newspapers in Montana and across the nation and on NPR radio already, and much more news coverage is expected if they are pardoned. Some descendants have already been contacted, but many more are yet to be found. WE URGENTLY NEED YOUR HELP PRIOR TO APRIL 1. Students and faculty at the University of Montana have tried for months to find these persons with no success. We are now asking for outside help in order to meet our deadline of April 1st. In the states of MO and MN, we are looking for a man named BENJAMIN (BEN) KAHN, b. 12-25-1879, possibly in Russia/Poland. We know nothing of Ben's mother, siblings, etc. We need them in order to track present-day descendants. His father may have been AARON KAHN, b. est. 1836-46 in Russia as well. Aaron Kahn was in a Jewish Home for the Aged in Ramsey County (St. Paul) MN in about 1920--may have died there sometime in the 20's. Death index? Obituary with family information? BEN KAHN stated in his court testimony that he had come to the US at a very young age (under the age of 2 most likely) and had been raised, until he was 17 and left home in St. Joseph Missouri to help support his parents. In about 1920, he had a brother in Poughkeepsie NY, a sister in IL and another sister (widowed) in Seattle WA area. He spent about a year living in MT as well. Was a registered voter in Missouri, he said. A Louis Kahn was shown as "Russian-born" and in St. Joseph MO in the 1930 census; I am wondering if this was a brother to Ben, born 1879? If you can find any information on any current-day descendants of BEN KAHN or AARON KAHN or have historical knowledge of them in your particular county or area of expertise, please contact me ([email protected]) or Professor Clem Work <mail to: [email protected]> . More information about the project can be found at <http://www.seditionproject.net> We are grateful for any help you can provide. Thank you. Jeanne in Montana

Can anyone do a late 1869s or 1870 city directory lookup for her? If his parish is not listed with his name in the alphabetical section, it might be with the church listings. Mary Listmom >From: [email protected] >Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 18:56:00 EST >Subject: RAMSEY COUNTY QUERY > > March 08.2006 <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] > >John Horst, 'Minister of the Gospel', married my g-grandparents, >Minnie Luck and Herman Gall on July 16.1870 in St.. Paul, Mn. > >I am interested in finding the church/parish with which Rev. Horst >was affiliated. Rev. Horst is listed in the 1870 Ramsey Co. census, >St. Paul, 1st Ward as a 'clergyman', but it appears he died in 1871. >There is a John Rev Horst d. 1871, buried in Mound Cemetery, >in La Sueur Co., Mn. I don't know if that Rev is my particular Rev. > >Herman and Minnie were Lutherans and had a cemetery >plot in a cemetery known as the Elmhurst Cemetery. > >Elmhurst Cemetery was established in 1858 through a cooperative >arrangement between the Trinity and St. John's Lutheran Churches. >It includes the former German Lutheran Cemetery also known as >the Orchard Street Cemetery which was also owned by the Trinity >Lutheran Church. Unfortunately, all records were lost in a fire in 1890. > >I am hoping to connect Rev. John Horst with a particular church/parish >and get beyond this particular brick wall. > >Thank you in advance for any assistance. > >Patricia Gaetani

Can anyone help? Note Bev's address, and respond to her directly. >From: [email protected] >Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 09:47:48 EST >Subject: NEWSTRAND, possibly NYSTROM, NYSTRAND, JOHNSON, JONES > >I am looking for any information re: my grandfather, GUSTAV (F) >NEWSTRAND who emigrated from Sweden (birthplace, point of >embarkation, and ship) to the port of New York, May, 1884. Gustav >settled on the East Side of St. Paul; Payne Ave. and Geranium Ave. >were a couple addresses. He married BLENDA MARIA LAMBERG from >Kronosberg Estate, on June 15,1886 in St. Paul, MN. It is believed >they met on the ship coming to America; then she lived for about 2 >years with her brother, PETER LAMBERG in Red Wing, MN.Gustav's >brother was KARL NEWSTRAND, who also lived on the East Side. Thank >you, Beverly Hicks

At 08:39 AM 2/19/2006, Bart Hansen wrote: >I am looking for a Minnesota birth from 1889 and am not sure about the county. >Ramsey, my best bet, just returned a 'not found' for my name. > >It looks like the Minnesota Dept of Public Health records begin at 1900, >and the MNHS indicates the same, saying that "additional years will be >added to the database as they become available." There are two dates for the legal requirement to record births: First is 1870, which resulted in townships and villages records, some of which were passed along to the county. The second is 1911 -- which is when the state began to require (with some teeth added to the law) a copy of the birth certificates. Note that the MN DPH records begin at 1900, which is when they started to get interested in both birth and death records. They asked the counties to provide the information, and that's what is there before the 1911 date. The info to come in quotes above refers to later dates, because the MN DPH didn't get any of those township and village records -- they went to the counties when that recording was shut down, and of course govt. doesn't want to spend tax dollars going back in time and re-recording events! >Does anyone know if they will be going back in time when they extend >that on-line database? The current work is to bring it forward -- and there's a bunch of that to do! >Also, is there somewhere in Minnesota where I can request a search if >I know only the name and date, but not the county of birth? Not at this point -- do check the 1895 State census, which includes two columns that might be of help -- # of years in the state and # of years in the enumeration district. This would at least confirm if MN is the right place to look, and if the place of the 1895 census is the right place to look. And then be prepared to also look at baptismal records, because not every early birth got recorded. (The census can be obtained on interlibrary loan through your local public library from the MHS.) But that's what makes it fun -- those nuggets that have to be dug out always seem to sparkle just a little more.<G> Mary Mary Bakeman [email protected] Ramsey MnGenWeb Coordintor http://www.parkbooks.com/MnGenWeb/ Park Genealogical Books http://www.parkbooks.com/

I am looking for a Minnesota birth from 1889 and am not sure about the county. Ramsey, my best bet, just returned a 'not found' for my name. It looks like the Minnesota Dept of Public Health records begin at 1900, and the MNHS indicates the same, saying that "additional years will be added to the database as they become available." Does anyone know if they will be going back in time when they extend that on-line database? Also, is there somewhere in Minnesota where I can request a search if I know only the name and date, but not the county of birth? Thanks, Bart

I am new to this list and amlooking for information on someone I think is a relative. The information I have is as Fo;;ows" Minnesota Naturalization Records Index 1854-1957, Jam Warmowski County Ramsey Date 14December 1998 ( I think it should be 1898) and Databasse ; Minnesota Death Index, 1908-2002 Name John Warmowski Death date 11/11/1910 I alsop have a Certificate no 1910 MN 022631. Is there any one availabel on this list to do lookups on these Items. I believer these are both for the same person. I am willing to pay for copies etc. Richard Warmowski --------------------------------- Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail.

Can anyone help her? Note her address -- I'm not sure if she is on our list or not. Mary List mom >From: [email protected] >Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 18:16:04 EST >Subject: Hawaiian Beach Club > >Does anyone know anything at all about a nightclub located north of >St. Paul, possibly near Shoreview in the 1950s called The Hawaiian >Beach Club? My parents first met there. My mother sang with a band >there about 1952. Would love to find out where it was located and >perhaps track down some history/photo? I heard that it later burned >down, but have no idea when that might have been. Many thanks! > >Joni Leffler >Texas >

Can anyone help? I don't know if she's on our list or not--please include her on your reply! <[email protected]> Mary List Mom >Hello! I need help in locating an individual who has a date of death of >19 Sept 1894, Rosenna Fieger. Various spellings of first name: Rosina, >Rosie and last name could be Feiger. >City Directory for 1894 shows husband, Thomas J., as living at 2020 W >University Ave. >Not certain the family also lived at that address. >I suppose one possibility could be the Ramsey County Poor Farm on White >Bear Ave. > >I appreciate any help you can give me, and I thank you sincerely. > >roberta sigg

I've "rescued" an old photograph of Sophia Maria GUNDERSON which was taken at the Haynes Studio in St. Paul, Minnesota. The photograph is dated 1895 with Sophia appearing to be in her 20's or 30's at the time it was taken. I'm hoping to locate someone from her family so that this wonderful old treasure can be returned to her family. If you are a member of this family, or know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

Hi List: Someone sent me the following information on my Greatgrandfather Otto Emil BIERSCHENK. It's on his NATURALIZATION RECORD. He was naturalized on 27 Dec 1897 from what I have found out. Name: Otto Bierschenk County: Ramsey Reel: 41 Code: 117 vol: 8 Page 202 Is there anyone out there that could look up this record and give me the information on it. I am trying to find where in Germany he came from, hopefully that will help me. I appreciate any help anyone can provide on this research. Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10

Our new research note for February describes a growing collection of on-line maps and atlases for Minnesota, including the original plat maps drawn by the surveyors for the Government Land Office of the Bureau of Land Management from the 1840s on. These plats show the physical geography of the state before Minnesota became a Territory in 1849. The collection also includes on-line access to the Andreas Atlas of 1874 plus several other landowner atlases. All the maps are in color. (The Andreas was one of the first to have colored in a statewide atlas.) See our February note at http://www.parkbooks.com/Html/res_onlinemap.html To sign up for automatic notification future notes or to see past notes: http://www.parkbooks.com/Html/research.html Enjoy! Mary Mary Bakeman [email protected] Park Genealogical Books http://www.parkbooks.com