Dear Katarina, You will be hearing from your Hanson relatives living in Arizona shortly. How wonderful of you to want to reconnect with your U.S. relatives! Some of the Hanson family are also interested in genealogy, and will be very interested to communicate with you. Best regards. Katarina Mühlenbock wrote: > Dear List members, > > Could I please ask for your advice regarding how to find out if there are > still some remaining relatives in St. Paul or surroundings descended from my > grandfather's uncle Victor Hanson, immigrated from Sweden in the late > 1880's. Victor Hanson was born in Arby, Småland in 1856, and brought along > at least one son, Peter Arthur Hanson, born in 1881. According to the 1890 > Census they lived at Boards 877 Woodbridge, St. Paul, MN, USA. > > Victor died in St. Paul 1913. Peter Arthur married Ella Anna Kutzky (b. > 1882). They, in turn, had (at least) six children, all with the surname > Hanson: > - Harvey Arthur, b. 1905, d. 1989 > - George Victor, b. 1908, d. 1996 > - Arthur H., b. 1910, d. 1998 > - Mantor John, b. 1914, d. 1984 > - Earle Robert, b. 1916, d. 1962 > - Dorothy Amelia, b. 1918, d. 2002 > > According to Minnesota Birth index, two children were born to a Arthur H. > Hanson: Bruce Arthur Hanson, born in Ramsey County in 1938 and Douglas > Charles Hanson, 1945. > > In addition to my interest in family research, I would very much like to get > in contact with these relatives. My mother is turning 80 next year and has > very clear memories of her second cousin visting Sweden in the 1930's. We > also have a photo from that occasion that we would like to share with them. > Any advice about how to continue to trace them would be very much > appreciated. > > Best regards, > > Katarina Mühlenbock > Gothenburg, Sweden > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear List members, Could I please ask for your advice regarding how to find out if there are still some remaining relatives in St. Paul or surroundings descended from my grandfather's uncle Victor Hanson, immigrated from Sweden in the late 1880's. Victor Hanson was born in Arby, Småland in 1856, and brought along at least one son, Peter Arthur Hanson, born in 1881. According to the 1890 Census they lived at Boards 877 Woodbridge, St. Paul, MN, USA. Victor died in St. Paul 1913. Peter Arthur married Ella Anna Kutzky (b. 1882). They, in turn, had (at least) six children, all with the surname Hanson: - Harvey Arthur, b. 1905, d. 1989 - George Victor, b. 1908, d. 1996 - Arthur H., b. 1910, d. 1998 - Mantor John, b. 1914, d. 1984 - Earle Robert, b. 1916, d. 1962 - Dorothy Amelia, b. 1918, d. 2002 According to Minnesota Birth index, two children were born to a Arthur H. Hanson: Bruce Arthur Hanson, born in Ramsey County in 1938 and Douglas Charles Hanson, 1945. In addition to my interest in family research, I would very much like to get in contact with these relatives. My mother is turning 80 next year and has very clear memories of her second cousin visting Sweden in the 1930's. We also have a photo from that occasion that we would like to share with them. Any advice about how to continue to trace them would be very much appreciated. Best regards, Katarina Mühlenbock Gothenburg, Sweden

I have found this conference to be very helpful in the past, so I'm sharing it with the list. Mary _____________ Irish Genealogical Society International and Anoka Community Education Present The 2006 Searching For Your Family History Genealogical Conference Saturday, September 30, 2006 8:30 AM - 3:30 PM Conference Held at Northdale Middle School 11301 Dogwood Street NW Coon Rapids, Minnesota 55448 The conference is held for beginners, intermediate researchers for any ethnic group and Irish researchers of all levels. Twenty-five separate classes, an all day staffed computer lab, and knowledgeable vendors are scheduled. Come and join us and consider starting a friend in genealogy. Invite them to join you for the day. For more information: http://www.irishgenealogical.org/events/conference/genconf.html

Dear List, The Minnesota Historical Society does not have the 1860s-1890s (St. Paul) Ramsey County Death Records in their possession. They are held by the City/County Vital Record Division. The LDS Church has copied some of the early Ramsey County death records, so that is another place to search.

Perhaps someone in the area will look it up for you at the Historical Society. You could get a copy, but not certified by the state. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "P.A. Campbell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, 19 September, 2006 16:25 Subject: [MNRAMSEY] ZERTLER, [winter] Minna > II need help! Can anybody tell me how to obtain a copy of the death > certificate for my gr-grandmother who died in 1893. I have sent my $13. > check but had it returned because being a gr-grandchild does not qualify > as > having "tangible interest". Thanks so much. Paty Campbell > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

II need help! Can anybody tell me how to obtain a copy of the death certificate for my gr-grandmother who died in 1893. I have sent my $13. check but had it returned because being a gr-grandchild does not qualify as having "tangible interest". Thanks so much. Paty Campbell

I just received notice that our MNRamsey list has been converted to the new software at RootsWeb. It's supposed to be a transparent move, EXCEPT if you have been subscribed to both the regular list and the digest, you are now only subscribed to one. If you still want both, you'll have to have a different address for the second one. A little patience may be needed as we sort out any wrinkles that occur. Mary Mary Bakeman [email protected] Ramsey MnGenWeb Coordintor http://www.parkbooks.com/MnGenWeb/ Park Genealogical Books http://www.parkbooks.com/

http://www.ironrangeresearchcenter.org/ This is a great site for Minnesota research. For a minimal charge they will look of information for you & send you the record. Or you can go to their center & look up information for yourself. I was able to purchase my grandparents & their siblings petitions for naturalization, etc. Or you can search the site yourself from your computer & then order what you want. Good luck. Bev Carlson of Brooklyn Park, Minnesota, USA Researching: Swjetsz/Swatez/Shvets/Swatecz/Shveits/Swatetz, Szapu (Argentina, Russia) Plitman/Pletman/Feldman, Arbus (Russia, Poland, Ukraine, Lithuania) Hershey/Hersche, Buchholz, Dunn (Germany, Switzerland) Liebo/Labovitch (Romania, Russia) Krankenward/Krank/Warton, Barrish, Sitnick (Russia, Poland) Endreson, Fladebø/Fladeboe, Alvig/Ålvik/Ålvig, Steine, Rosseland/Roseland, Rykken (Norway) _http://tinyurl.com/kjkwq_ (http://tinyurl.com/kjkwq) or _http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/a/r/Beverly-Krank-Carlson-MN/ind ex.html#edit_ (http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/a/r/Beverly-Krank-Carlson-MN/index.html#edit)

I work in the City Hall/Courthouse. The marriage records have been moved. I believe the original record books and subsequent paper copies are now at the Public Health Building (aka the Don Jeuneman bldg.) Scott Renstrom >>> "Mark Kurkowski" <[email protected]> 8/25/2006 4:05:01 PM >>> Hi List, Are the ramsey county marriage records anywhere else other than in the St.Paul Ramsey courthouse. I am from Ramsey and all my relatives are from Ramsey so all "my" records are there and birth and death records for Mn are great as I do have access to them through ancestry but the "real" records between 1880 and 1900 are the ones i am looking for. Does anyone know if LDS has microfilmed them or where else I might find them? Thanks, Mark Kurkowski stuck in Illinois lol _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Spaces is here! It's easy to create your own personal Web site. http://spaces.live.com/signup.aspx ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Hi List, Are the ramsey county marriage records anywhere else other than in the St.Paul Ramsey courthouse. I am from Ramsey and all my relatives are from Ramsey so all "my" records are there and birth and death records for Mn are great as I do have access to them through ancestry but the "real" records between 1880 and 1900 are the ones i am looking for. Does anyone know if LDS has microfilmed them or where else I might find them? Thanks, Mark Kurkowski stuck in Illinois lol _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Spaces is here! It’s easy to create your own personal Web site. http://spaces.live.com/signup.aspx

I'm sending this to the Ramsey MnGenWeb list, to see if anyone has a connection to the Adelmann family Silvia is asking about. I don't know that Silvia is on our mailing list, so please direct your responses to her. Mary List mom ++++++++++++ Dear Silvia, Legal adoption in Minnesota is covered by a 100-year-old privacy law, with records sealed by the court. One needs to go through the court in question to have them opened, which many courts will do when there is a reason (health concerns, for example) for doing so. However, not everyone went to court, and many children were raised using the surname of a step-father without any legal proceedings at all. A couple of things you might be able to do to determine without having to ask the court: The Iron Range Research Center in Hibbing offers a free search of naturalization records for the state -- and will also provide copies for a fee. These are only for MN courts, and do not include records for other states, or for the Federal Courts located in MN. <http://www.ironrangeresearchcenter.org> If the birth father arrived in the U.S. before 1930, he should appear on that census. The census is available on-line through a couple of subscription services, notably Ancestry.com. I believe that gives information on when a person came to the U.S. That would give you an idea if the dates match up. He may not have come directly to MN. You can usually get helpful information from a death certificate. Sometimes they even have both parents and the name of the village or area where the person was born. There is usually a full date of death, and a date of birth. That too would provide a clue to identifying him as a person from the same area as the rest of your family. An index to the MN ones are on-line through the MN Historical Society site. They can provide a copy for a fee. < http://people.mnhs.org/dci/search.cfm?bhcp=1> I don't do research for people -- but we do have a swap page on our website <http://www.parkbooks.com/MnGenWeb/swap.html> Perhaps there is someone who would be able to do some work for you in exchange for some German research. Good luck on your search! Mary At 07:47 AM 8/24/2006, you wrote: >Hello, > >I hope you are able to help me. I am looking for >some informations of my grandfather. >My Father have been born as a illegitimate child >and was adopted later by his stepfather. >He never met his father and all old peoples are >dead now so there is nobody I can ask. >My father (his name is Horst Reinheimer, born in >1927) is now 79 years old and since >a few month he likes to know something about his father. >So, I do only have the name of this person and >estimate that he is born around 1900. >Name: Herman Adelhelm (maybe Hermann Adelhelm). He left the city where my >grandmother was living after the birth of my >father and my surching in Germany was >not successful. So I had a look in the Internet >and I found in a database the name >Herman Adelhelm (02.12.1907 - Dec. 1982), Minnesota, Ramsey. >Maybe this man was my grandfather. >Do you have any informations about this person? >Waiting for your answer and thanks in advance. > >Best regards > > Silvia Reinheimer > Global Automotive Division > Team Assistant Automotive Sensors > ______________________________________________________________ > > Tyco Electronics AMP GmbH > AMPèrestrasse 12 - 14 > 64625 Bensheim > Germany > > Phone: +49 (0) 6251 - 133 1120 > Fax: +49 (0) 6251 - 133 1799 > E-Mail: > <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] > > Internet: > <http://www.tycoelectronics.com>http://www.tycoelectronics.com > http://www.tycoelectronics.com/automotive > ><http://www.tycoelectronicsmost.com>http://www.tycoelectronicsmost.com >

Hi Jim, Thank you so much for the reply. From my notes, (taken from obits, marriage registration, cemetery stone, distant relative recollections, and census info), I have the following: 1860 born Ontario Canada (father was station master on railroad, all 3 sons became involved in the railroad) 1886 Immigrated to US, unknown where Sep 1888 married St. Thomas, Ontario (confirmed) (residence after marriage to be: St. Cloud, Minnesota) (wife's family also with railroad in St. Thomas, Ontario) James residence at marriage was St. Cloud, Minnesota Louise's residence at marriage was St. Thomas, Ontario 1888 Louise immigrated to US 1890 daughter Margaret Russell born Minnesota 1890 1892 daughter Hughina Rose Russell born & died, unknown where, but buried in Ontario, confirmed. Nov 1904 Superintendent of the Missouri Pacific Railway (with headquarters at Atchison, Kansas) (not known if this means he lived in Missouri or Kansas)(per father's obit) Dec 1908 Brookfield, Missouri (per mother's obit) 1910 Census Portland, Mulnomah, Oregon (wife wife Louise, and confirmed daughter Margaret, all info matches) "Superintendent of Railroad" 1930 census St. Paul, Ramsey County, MN (with wife Louise A.) Sept 1931 General Superintendent of the Union Depot in St. Paul, MN (per sister's obit) 30 Nov 1948 died Santa Clara, Caper SSDI (mother's maiden name "Rose") (wife Louise also died Santa Clara, CA 07 Aug 1954, possibly as daughter Margaret Bentley lived there, yet to confirm) per SSDI (mother's maiden name Milligan, father's Secord) (I don't know where he was in 1900 or 1920 yet, although there is a promising 1900 census for Moraine, Grand Forks County, N. Dakota, although the immigration date is off, but I know his brother Hugh was killed by falling off train onto tracks in Dakota, assuming North Dakota. I don't know if James and Louise were divorced. I know they had 2 children, one, Hughina, that died at 7 months old, and the other Margaret b. 1890 Minnesota, that married a ? Bentley and lived in California. Re: the James---I realize I forgot to type in "w" to say "James was a superintendant of the Missouri Pacific Railway, not he lived in James (sometimes I type too fast, I apologize). This I'm afraid is all I have, which was more than last week, after a 4 hour session on a microfilm reader and some generously shared census images. I guess being with the railroad he travelled a bit. Any help or direction is much appreciated. Nancy Caldwell I live close to where he was born in Duntroon, Ontario Stayner, Ontario

An answer to the question requires one of my least favorite lines, but oh so true: It all depends...... --on the specific time period and the residence of the person who is being traced. For the most part, education in Minnesota before the 1950s included elementary schools operated under a County Superintendent of Schools and serving grades 1-8, with high schools (9-12) in larger communities. For example, I now live in Roseville -- just north of Larpenteur which divided St Paul from Rose Township. There were several elementary schools (K-8) in Rose Township, but those students who went on to high school went into St. Paul for the most part. Some also went to Minneapolis -- whatever school was the most convenient for them to attend. In the 1950s, consolidation took effect, and each new district had at least one high school. So one needs to know exactly where the person lived and what school was closest to begin the search. --whether or not the records were turned over to the State Archives. Not all were. For example, State Archives holdings for the school on my corner (which was Ramsey District Number 10 - Lexington School) includes school census records, a couple of attendance books, and some scrapbooks from the PTA. The school census records cover a period of years and list upcoming students as well as current students, father or guardian, age, etc. They don't report which high school the student chose on graduation from this elementary school. But once you know the number, check the MHS catalog for the records for that school. Then MHS also holds yearbooks for many of the St. Paul high schools, and I'm sure that they can be used at other places too -- I'd bet the main St. Paul Public Library has some, for example, though I haven't looked at their catalog. Long answer to a short question -- land ownership maps will show the elementary and high school locations and the number. MHS also has records on the consolidation. It's detective work! Mary List Mom P.S. I'm quite familiar with Dist. 10 -- it became part of the Roseville District, and was one of the first to close in the early 1970s as that district consolidated its elementary schools. The site is on Lexington and County Rd B, and is now a park, ringing again with the sounds of children playing, ball games, etc. At 06:03 PM 8/14/2006, L J Swendner Jr wrote: >List Members: > Logic, in my opinion, would suggest that a Record of > students attending a elementary school exists in some musty Archive > so as to show a line of education thru the education system (for > many, High School). > My limited skills have been unable to locate this Archive > => I have contacted the MSHS several times using different inquiry > modes and thru differing individuals. It may be that I have used an > incorrect description of what I'm seeking !!??!! > It would seem to ME, that such a FILE exists whereby an > individual could PROVE that he/she attended certified educational > classes thru whatever grade. > Can some more SKILLED person than I, locate said > Archive/File and provide the links to myself !!??!! > > L.J.(Bud) Swendner, Jr. > < swede.wizwire.com> > OLD AS DIRT > > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > Mary Bakeman [email protected] Ramsey MnGenWeb Coordintor http://www.parkbooks.com/MnGenWeb/ Park Genealogical Books http://www.parkbooks.com/

List Members: Logic, in my opinion, would suggest that a Record of students attending a elementary school exists in some musty Archive so as to show a line of education thru the education system (for many, High School). My limited skills have been unable to locate this Archive => I have contacted the MSHS several times using different inquiry modes and thru differing individuals. It may be that I have used an incorrect description of what I'm seeking !!??!! It would seem to ME, that such a FILE exists whereby an individual could PROVE that he/she attended certified educational classes thru whatever grade. Can some more SKILLED person than I, locate said Archive/File and provide the links to myself !!??!! L.J.(Bud) Swendner, Jr. < swede.wizwire.com> OLD AS DIRT

In case you haven't heard already: In a few weeks, Rootsweb will be migrating to a different software for handling the mailing lists. I'm not sure when our list will migrate, but the migration process likely will affect only a few people. However, if you filter your incoming mail (into mailboxes or for spam detection), the sending address will be dropping the "-L" in the name, so you'll have to rework your filter settings. You'll be able to post to either the old or new version of the address. More info should be available in a few weeks. Mary Mary Bakeman [email protected] Ramsey MnGenWeb Coordintor http://www.parkbooks.com/MnGenWeb/ Park Genealogical Books http://www.parkbooks.com/

Hello, Was wondering if anyone oculd help me with information on the following family: James Russell b. about 1863 Canada Louise Anna Russell b. about 1864 Canada Hughina Rose Russell b. about 1892, d. about 1892 Margaret Russell b. after 1893 (married a Bentley and moved to California) They lived at St. Pauls, and James as a superintendant of the Missouri Pacific Railway. He also worked as superintendent of the union Depot in St. Paul. ANy help in tracking down this family is appreciated. Nancy Ontario

I am wondering if the CONNELLY & McDEVITT Undertaking Parlor is still in St. Paul and if not who would have their records. They handled the burial of my Greatgrandfather's Brother.He died in 1914. Thank you for any info. Louise

The house at 891 Conway St., between Mendota and Forest streets is in the Dayton's Bluff neighborhood of St. Paul, about 2 miles east, southeast of the downtown central business district. It is an old inner-city neighborhood, settled and built mostly in the 1870s and 1880s, mainly by German and Irish immigrants. Like many St. Paul neighborhoods, Dayton's Bluff had it's own Police Substation, built in the mid-1880s in the 700 block of Margaret St., just off of East Seventh St., the neighborhood's main arterial street. William P. Clynch was a policeman working out of the Margaret Street Police Substation, according to the contemporary St. Paul City Directories. In 1910, the Clynch family was living at 702 Hudson St., in the same neighborhood. Both the house at 891 Conway, and the old Margaret Street Police Substation are still standing. The substation was converted for use as apartments around 1940. The Minnesota Historical Society has some nice photographs of the old Margaret St. Station, and many of the other neighborhood stations. They likely have a photograph of Officer Clynch in their collection as well. You can access the station photographs at their website: www.mnhs.org You will be happy to know that the Dayton's Bluff neighborhood survives much intact as it was in 1914, and the Clynch family if visiting today, would not have a hard time finding their old homestead. A large portion of the neighborhood is an Historic Preservation District, because of its wealth of historic architecture. The neighborhood was named for Lyman Dayton, a Minnesota Territorial pioneer from Rhode Island. He bought large parcels of land on the St. Anthony Hill (northwest of downtown) and also on the bluff which bears his name. He lived from 1850, with his wife and son, on the brow of Dayton's Bluff in a beautiful home (torn down in 1974) that overlooked the entire city. He was buried near his home when he died in 1865. Maria and Bates streets in the neighborhood are named for his wife Maria Bates Dayton. Dayton Avenue, on the St. Anthony hill is named for Lyman Dayton, and begins its westerly route, just north of our St. Paul Cathedral. Hope this helps. If you have any specific questions, please don't hesitate to ask. Best regards, Jim Sazevich, Historian St. Paul, Minnesota Louise Hopkins wrote: > I would like to know if anyone can tell me where 891 Conway St. St. Paul > would have been in 1914. > The Bother of my Greatgrandfather lived there at the time of his death. > He was living with his daughter and family------------Anne and William P. > Clynch. William was said to be a jailer. > Any info would be much appreciated! > Thank you. > Louise > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

I would like to know if anyone can tell me where 891 Conway St. St. Paul would have been in 1914. The Bother of my Greatgrandfather lived there at the time of his death. He was living with his daughter and family------------Anne and William P. Clynch. William was said to be a jailer. Any info would be much appreciated! Thank you. Louise

Can anyone help? Be sure to respond directly, and not to the list, as I don't know if Geir is a regular reader of the list. Geir Sagen <[email protected]> There are, of course, Federal and Minnesota State census records that will help fill in. But if there are family members on this list, I'm sure Geir would be happy to hear from you! Mary List Mom >I'm looking for descendants of George Ferdinand Christoffersen b. >1877 ( son of Chris and Bertha Christofferson ), George died in >Ramsey feb. 16. 1947, Married Emma Amalia ( Mollie ) Lindberg (b. >1875 - d. 1959 ). >They had a daughter Laverna Bertha born aug. 11th 1908 in Ramsey and >she maaried Edgren. >Chris Christofferson ( My great grand uncle ) was born 1848 in Norway. >Also happy for more information about George's family. > >Geir Sagen > > >