Dear List, Al Dawson, [email protected], new poster. I have a photograph of a family member with what looks like the photographer's imprint of R. A. Leists, Boston Gallery, 195 East Seventh Street, St. Paul, Min. I can send it as an attachment to anyone assisting in the dating. I have a guess of c. 1886 due to family migration data. Al ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.
Ruth: Thanks for the information. Someone sent me his phone number and I'll give that a try. Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ruth Nerud <[email protected]> wrote: Are you talking about looking up records at St. Stanislaus Catholic Church. Father Clay is the wonderful pastor there. Perhaps if you wrote him a letter he would look up whatever you need. Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Forshay" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [MNRAMSEY] 717 Tuscarora Ave > Marcia: > > I went to the web site you provide me. I couldn't find any place > where someone would do any lookups of records. I guess I could write a > letter. I wrote to my Grandmothers church the First Lutheran Church at > Eighth and Maria in St Paul and never got any answers from them. > Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX > > > > --------------------------------- > Finding fabulous fares is fun. > Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and > hotel bargains. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games.
Marcia: Thank you for the phone number. I will give them a call and see what they can turn up. Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marcia Kremer <[email protected]> wrote: Bill, You may want to give the office personnel at St. Stans a call. All church records should also be at the Chancery archives as well. Patrick, the archives assistant, might be able to give you some more direction. His phone number is 651.291.4429 and fax is 651.290.1629. Marcia ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Forshay To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [MNRAMSEY] 717 Tuscarora Ave Marcia: I went to the web site you provide me. I couldn't find any place where someone would do any lookups of records. I guess I could write a letter. I wrote to my Grandmothers church the First Lutheran Church at Eighth and Maria in St Paul and never got any answers from them. Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX --------------------------------- Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Bill, You may want to give the office personnel at St. Stans a call. All church records should also be at the Chancery archives as well. Patrick, the archives assistant, might be able to give you some more direction. His phone number is 651.291.4429 and fax is 651.290.1629. Marcia ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Forshay<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [MNRAMSEY] 717 Tuscarora Ave Marcia: I went to the web site you provide me. I couldn't find any place where someone would do any lookups of records. I guess I could write a letter. I wrote to my Grandmothers church the First Lutheran Church at Eighth and Maria in St Paul and never got any answers from them. Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX --------------------------------- Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Are you talking about looking up records at St. Stanislaus Catholic Church. Father Clay is the wonderful pastor there. Perhaps if you wrote him a letter he would look up whatever you need. Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Forshay" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [MNRAMSEY] 717 Tuscarora Ave > Marcia: > > I went to the web site you provide me. I couldn't find any place > where someone would do any lookups of records. I guess I could write a > letter. I wrote to my Grandmothers church the First Lutheran Church at > Eighth and Maria in St Paul and never got any answers from them. > Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX > > > > --------------------------------- > Finding fabulous fares is fun. > Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and > hotel bargains. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Marcia: I went to the web site you provide me. I couldn't find any place where someone would do any lookups of records. I guess I could write a letter. I wrote to my Grandmothers church the First Lutheran Church at Eighth and Maria in St Paul and never got any answers from them. Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX --------------------------------- Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains.
I was looking for my uncle that lived in St. Paul and couldn't find his death certificate. Then I remembered that he died in a hospital in Minneapolis - Hennepin County not Ramsey County. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of JG Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 12:05 PM To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Subject: [MNRAMSEY] Help; Any ideas? I have a problem with a death certificate I recently made a copy of at the MN Historical Society for my great grandfather. The family member who assisted in completing the death certificate I believe gave incorrect information. Maybe one of you has an idea on how I start straightening it out. What can I do now? The name on the certificate is Oscar Elmer Hall and states that he was born in 1893. I know his eldest child was born in 1891 and named Oscar A. Hall (don't know what the A. is for)! To make matters "worse", it states he was born in New Market MN and died single in Farmington. We believe our great grandfather was born in Sweden and immigrated after Oscar A. was born and before their second son was born in September 1895. I find only one Oscar Elmer Hall in the records at the MN Historical Society, so I have to believe this is my great grandfather. Is it possible no death certificate was written? How could a family member get the data so wrong! My great grandparents lived and died in South St. Paul, MN (Dakota County) and her death certificate confirms that. However, it states her spouses' name was Anders O. Hall! The only death certificate I find for an Anders Hall (at the MN Historical Society) states: HALL, ANDERS E. Date of Birth: 09/27/1886 Place of Birth: OUT OF STATE Mother Maiden Name: UNKNOWN Date of Death: 02/05/1969 County of Death: HENNEPIN I am so confused! :) Can anyone guide me? I am new at this. Thank you! Julie "Have faith beyond the explainable" ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
First, take a deep breath and consider the death certificate as a possible fact that may be about someone other than your ancestor. Other facts you need to ensure that this is the right person is to check the census records to see where (and if, of course) he is listed in 1900, 1910, etc. That will help you bracket his date of death. Then check the dates that the index covers -- if he died before 1905, he wouldn't be in the index at all yet, and if he died before 1900, he won't ever be in the index, and may not have even a death listing in the local records. The same thing applies to your great-grandparents -- Hall is not an uncommon surname, and neither are the given names you seek. Gather information from all the possible sources, identify the potential pitfalls with each one, and persevere. Just a name doesn't ensure that you're on the right track! As you continue your research, you'll no doubt find other information that will help you narrow down the search, or that don't agree with other records. I have a death certificate that is dated the day after the person's obituary appeared in the local paper. I have three gravestone transcriptions for the same person, and they have three different dates on them. And my great-grandfather, after 40+ years of marriage, didn't know his wife had been born in Minnesota and not Germany! A very wise man told me when I was just starting out: "You have to turn over every rock, and judge whether what you find is helpful or not." Mary At 12:04 PM 2/27/2007, you wrote: >I have a problem with a death certificate I recently made a copy of >at the MN Historical Society for my great grandfather. >The family member who assisted in completing the death certificate I >believe gave incorrect information. >Maybe one of you has an idea on how I start straightening it >out. What can I do now? > >The name on the certificate is Oscar Elmer Hall and states that he >was born in 1893. >I know his eldest child was born in 1891 and named Oscar A. Hall >(don't know what the A. is for)! >To make matters "worse", it states he was born in New Market MN and >died single in Farmington. >We believe our great grandfather was born in Sweden and immigrated >after Oscar A. was born and before their second son was born in September 1895. >I find only one Oscar Elmer Hall in the records at the MN >Historical Society, so I have to believe this is my great grandfather. >Is it possible no death certificate was written? How could a family >member get the data so wrong! > >My great grandparents lived and died in South St. Paul, MN (Dakota >County) and her death certificate confirms that. However, it states >her spouses' name was Anders O. Hall! The only death certificate I >find for an Anders Hall (at the MN Historical Society) states: > > > HALL, ANDERS E. > Date of Birth: 09/27/1886 > Place of Birth: OUT OF STATE > Mother Maiden Name: UNKNOWN > > Date of Death: 02/05/1969 > County of Death: HENNEPIN > > > > > >I am so confused! :) >Can anyone guide me? I am new at this. > >Thank you! > >Julie >"Have faith beyond the explainable" > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
from World War I draft registration cards: Oscar Anton Hall, Jr. born May 31, 1891 in Sweden, born in Guttenberg, unemployed steamfitter, single, address on June 5, 1917, Pigseye, St. Paul, MN. Minnesota Cemetery Inscriptions: Oscar Hall born 1893 died 1947 in New Market Minnesota Death Indexes Oscar Elmer Hall died August 26 1947 in Dakota County Oscar A Hall born May 31, 1891 died Oct 30, 1960 in Ramsey County, mother's surname Flink Society Security Death Index Oscar A Hall born July 24 1903 died Apr 4 2003, Hennepin County, Minneapolis, MN I hope this helps a little. Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "JG" <[email protected]> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 12:04 PM Subject: [MNRAMSEY] Help; Any ideas? >I have a problem with a death certificate I recently made a copy of at the >MN Historical Society for my great grandfather. > The family member who assisted in completing the death certificate I > believe gave incorrect information. > Maybe one of you has an idea on how I start straightening it out. What > can I do now? > > The name on the certificate is Oscar Elmer Hall and states that he was > born in 1893. > I know his eldest child was born in 1891 and named Oscar A. Hall (don't > know what the A. is for)! > To make matters "worse", it states he was born in New Market MN and died > single in Farmington. > We believe our great grandfather was born in Sweden and immigrated after > Oscar A. was born and before their second son was born in September 1895. > I find only one Oscar Elmer Hall in the records at the MN Historical > Society, so I have to believe this is my great grandfather. > Is it possible no death certificate was written? How could a family > member get the data so wrong! > > My great grandparents lived and died in South St. Paul, MN (Dakota County) > and her death certificate confirms that. However, it states her spouses' > name was Anders O. Hall! The only death certificate I find for an Anders > Hall (at the MN Historical Society) states: > > > HALL, ANDERS E. > Date of Birth: 09/27/1886 > Place of Birth: OUT OF STATE > Mother Maiden Name: UNKNOWN > > Date of Death: 02/05/1969 > County of Death: HENNEPIN > > > > > > I am so confused! :) > Can anyone guide me? I am new at this. > > Thank you! > > Julie > "Have faith beyond the explainable" > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
The web address for St. Stanislaus is http://www.ststans.org/<http://www.ststans.org/> ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Forshay<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [MNRAMSEY] 717 Tuscarora Ave Annie & Joan: Thanks for the information on the church. I will give it a try. Do you know if the have a web site? Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joan Born <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I am quite sure it would have been St Stanislaus. Joan Schneider Born-----Researching Surnames: BORN, HERRMANN, HUNA, BENESCH /// SCHNEIDER, LIEBL, YOUNG, LENG// TURBES. ROSS (ROSSEN), CHRISTEN, GROSJEAN, KNOTT, MURGES, BRAND, KLINKERS, HAMMES, HENGES (HENSGES or HENSGENS)and KOENIGS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Forshay" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [MNRAMSEY] 717 Tuscarora Ave > Hi list: > > My grandfather Richard Louis BIERSCHENK lived at 717 Tuscarora Ave. in > St Paul according to the 1905 census. He was Catholic, so what church > would he have attended in that area of town? > > Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX > > > --------------------------------- > Bored stiff? Loosen up... > Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Marcia: Thank you very much for the web site. I will contact them and see what turns up. Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX Marcia Kremer <[email protected]> wrote: The web address for St. Stanislaus is http://www.ststans.org/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Forshay To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [MNRAMSEY] 717 Tuscarora Ave Annie & Joan: Thanks for the information on the church. I will give it a try. Do you know if the have a web site? Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joan Born > wrote: I am quite sure it would have been St Stanislaus. Joan Schneider Born-----Researching Surnames: BORN, HERRMANN, HUNA, BENESCH /// SCHNEIDER, LIEBL, YOUNG, LENG// TURBES. ROSS (ROSSEN), CHRISTEN, GROSJEAN, KNOTT, MURGES, BRAND, KLINKERS, HAMMES, HENGES (HENSGES or HENSGENS)and KOENIGS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Forshay" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [MNRAMSEY] 717 Tuscarora Ave > Hi list: > > My grandfather Richard Louis BIERSCHENK lived at 717 Tuscarora Ave. in > St Paul according to the 1905 census. He was Catholic, so what church > would he have attended in that area of town? > > Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX > > > --------------------------------- > Bored stiff? Loosen up... > Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited.
Annie & Joan: Thanks for the information on the church. I will give it a try. Do you know if the have a web site? Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joan Born <[email protected]> wrote: I am quite sure it would have been St Stanislaus. Joan Schneider Born-----Researching Surnames: BORN, HERRMANN, HUNA, BENESCH /// SCHNEIDER, LIEBL, YOUNG, LENG// TURBES. ROSS (ROSSEN), CHRISTEN, GROSJEAN, KNOTT, MURGES, BRAND, KLINKERS, HAMMES, HENGES (HENSGES or HENSGENS)and KOENIGS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Forshay" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [MNRAMSEY] 717 Tuscarora Ave > Hi list: > > My grandfather Richard Louis BIERSCHENK lived at 717 Tuscarora Ave. in > St Paul according to the 1905 census. He was Catholic, so what church > would he have attended in that area of town? > > Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX > > > --------------------------------- > Bored stiff? Loosen up... > Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains.
In a message dated 2/28/2007 2:18:21 A.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I am quite sure it would have been St Stanislaus. I am sure it would be St. Stans. Lived at 710 Tuscarora for a while. Annie in Minnesota <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
In a message dated 2/28/2007 2:48:14 A.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I am now 81 so very long ago. Let's see--grade school-- from 1936 --graduated 1940--then went to Monroe high school. These pics would be of people who were adults at that time. One has at the center a priest and a whole mess of adults, possibly on a picnic. From my people who are in it, my mother and a step great aunt, I would think it could possibly be of a choir. My aunt sang with the choir for years, and I believe my mother did also, although she took piano for 18 years, so could also have provided music for practice. Annie in Minnesota <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
I am quite sure it would have been St Stanislaus. Joan Schneider Born-----Researching Surnames: BORN, HERRMANN, HUNA, BENESCH /// SCHNEIDER, LIEBL, YOUNG, LENG// TURBES. ROSS (ROSSEN), CHRISTEN, GROSJEAN, KNOTT, MURGES, BRAND, KLINKERS, HAMMES, HENGES (HENSGES or HENSGENS)and KOENIGS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Forshay" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [MNRAMSEY] 717 Tuscarora Ave > Hi list: > > My grandfather Richard Louis BIERSCHENK lived at 717 Tuscarora Ave. in > St Paul according to the 1905 census. He was Catholic, so what church > would he have attended in that area of town? > > Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX > > > --------------------------------- > Bored stiff? Loosen up... > Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
I am now 81 so very long ago. Let's see--grade school-- from 1936 --graduated 1940--then went to Monroe high school. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [MNRAMSEY] Bohemian churches in St. Paul > > In a message dated 2/27/2007 6:18:26 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > The main Bohemian parish--that I attended as a youngster-was St > Stanislaus. > > > Can I ask how long ago? I have some group pics that I think are from > there, > but am not sure. > > Annie in Minnesota > <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
In a message dated 2/27/2007 6:18:26 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: The main Bohemian parish--that I attended as a youngster-was St Stanislaus. Can I ask how long ago? I have some group pics that I think are from there, but am not sure. Annie in Minnesota <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
In a message dated 2/27/2007 4:42:56 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I have an ancestor who lived at 473 Toronto Ave. from 1880's thru 1920. This was St. Paul Ward 4. Was from Bohemia. Does anyone know which church they might have attended? A previous post noted that there were three Bohemian congregtions in the area. Does anyon know what the names of those churches re? Thanks, Donna Probably St/ Stan's Annie in Minnesota <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
In a message dated 2/27/2007 4:55:37 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: and the cemetary is Calvary not Calgary. thank, was a typo [email protected] <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Hi list: My grandfather Richard Louis BIERSCHENK lived at 717 Tuscarora Ave. in St Paul according to the 1905 census. He was Catholic, so what church would he have attended in that area of town? Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX --------------------------------- Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games.