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Can anyone help Shirley? Perhaps do a city directory lookup? Be sure to respond to her directly, as she may not be on this mailing list. Mary list mom >From: [email protected] >Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 23:49:09 EDT >Subject: ramsey county genealogy search > >am not from here but is there a list anywhere of the lutheran >ministers in the st paul area in 1930-40? >Am looking for a Rev. Priebe > >Thanks > >Shirley Swanson > > > > >---------- >See what's free at <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503>AOL.com.

Mary Thanks so much for going that extra step in trying to locate information on Kenneth W. Brandl. I was on that site and overlooked the index. I have now requested documentation from the MNHC to see what the Veterans Grave registration may have. Again I want to say thanks to all of you who have responded and now I know that these list servs really work. This is the beginning, many many thanks Ron and Betty Brandl, Winter Springs, FL. Mary Wickersham <[email protected]> wrote: Re: Thanks for all the comments and suggestions. I called one of the service organizations yesterday and will see if they can help me. The last word I got from the St. Pete VA was to check with the Okinawa courthouse. But I'll also try Ramsey County, Mn. for any burial records as well. __________________ You may want to try the MN Historical Society online database of veterans' graves. From the main page at mnhs.org, use the search box on the upper right to search for "veterans graves" - the link should be first on the results list. Your brother is in the index, and you should be able to order a copy of the "Minnesota Veteran's Grave Registration". >From the description on the MHS website : "When completely filled out, each veteran's grave registration report contains the full first, middle, and last name of the veteran; the date and place of enlistment; the serial number, rank, and unit of the veteran; the date and place of discharge; the legal residence; the date and place of birth (usually including the city, county, and state or country); the date and place of death (usually including the city, county, and state or country); the cause of death; name and address of next of kin; date and place of burial; the name of the cemetery and the location of the grave. Frequently, the name and address of the funeral director will be included." Mary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.

Re: Thanks for all the comments and suggestions. I called one of the service organizations yesterday and will see if they can help me. The last word I got from the St. Pete VA was to check with the Okinawa courthouse. But I'll also try Ramsey County, Mn. for any burial records as well. __________________ You may want to try the MN Historical Society online database of veterans' graves. From the main page at mnhs.org, use the search box on the upper right to search for "veterans graves" - the link should be first on the results list. Your brother is in the index, and you should be able to order a copy of the "Minnesota Veteran's Grave Registration". >From the description on the MHS website : "When completely filled out, each veteran's grave registration report contains the full first, middle, and last name of the veteran; the date and place of enlistment; the serial number, rank, and unit of the veteran; the date and place of discharge; the legal residence; the date and place of birth (usually including the city, county, and state or country); the date and place of death (usually including the city, county, and state or country); the cause of death; name and address of next of kin; date and place of burial; the name of the cemetery and the location of the grave. Frequently, the name and address of the funeral director will be included." Mary

In a message dated 7/6/2007 10:11:24 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Thanks for all the comments and suggestions. I called one of the service organizations yesterday and will see if they can help me. The last word I got from the St. Pete VA was to check with the Okinawa courthouse. But I'll also try Ramsey County, Mn. for any burial records as well. Roland Elliott <[email protected]> wrote: All Navy and Marine records are ok,Air Force from most of H-Z,Army very very little survived and they do not accept DD214 records for Medals owed. I am getting very confused with all this talk of no records, as I had been told that the records in St. Louis that were destroyed were compiled files of service records, but that they can be recreated with individual bits and pieces of records at the NARA which is where the compliled files came from in the first place. Right or wrong? Annie in Minnesota ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Thanks for all the comments and suggestions. I called one of the service organizations yesterday and will see if they can help me. The last word I got from the St. Pete VA was to check with the Okinawa courthouse. But I'll also try Ramsey County, Mn. for any burial records as well. Roland Elliott <[email protected]> wrote: All Navy and Marine records are ok,Air Force from most of H-Z,Army very very little survived and they do not accept DD214 records for Medals owed. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [MNRAMSEY] Obtaining a copy of a Death Certificate Re the VA: I checked into getting a copy of the autopsy done on my grandfather at the VA. My mother (his child) had to sign for it. Then it turned out that the records were also in the fire. If no records are available on the individual, I would look for records/histories of the battle, which should specify which Army group was where & when--and with his Army Unit & the date of death, you might get so idea of what happened. Also: Mom's 1st cousin died in WWII. His commanding officer wrote the family to explain what happened & offer condolences. I have read a copy made by my g-aunt. i.e. copies might be floating around or summarized in old letters. Good luck! Kate n Jul 4 2007, Betty B wrote: > Thanks , All his military records were burned in the St. Louis Fire. I > only received his service certification stating his enlistment date and > his service terminated by death and the date. I also tried the VA but the > number they gave me to acquire the documents in Mass. when I called they > won't release documents to civilians. > > Wayne Rish wrote: You need to send for his > military records. I think you can go to the NARA web site for > instructions of how to order the records. Mary >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Betty B" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, 03 July, 2007 19:56 >Subject: [MNRAMSEY] Obtaining a copy of a Death Certificate > > >> I am looking for some guidance in obtaining my brother's death >> certificate. Kenneth Wilford Brandl was born on 09/08/1925 and was >> killed in Okinawa while serving in the US Army. His death was by >> accident while working on a plane on 06/29/1945 on base. I was only 4 >> years old at the time and it was a good year or so before his body was >> shipped to White Bear Lake, Minn. Where and can I obtain a death >> certificate on my brother from the State of Minnesota since his death >> occurred outside of the US. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Ron >> Brandl, Winter Springs, FL. >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user >> panel and lay it on us. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search.

All Navy and Marine records are ok,Air Force from most of H-Z,Army very very little survived and they do not accept DD214 records for Medals owed. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [MNRAMSEY] Obtaining a copy of a Death Certificate Re the VA: I checked into getting a copy of the autopsy done on my grandfather at the VA. My mother (his child) had to sign for it. Then it turned out that the records were also in the fire. If no records are available on the individual, I would look for records/histories of the battle, which should specify which Army group was where & when--and with his Army Unit & the date of death, you might get so idea of what happened. Also: Mom's 1st cousin died in WWII. His commanding officer wrote the family to explain what happened & offer condolences. I have read a copy made by my g-aunt. i.e. copies might be floating around or summarized in old letters. Good luck! Kate n Jul 4 2007, Betty B wrote: > Thanks , All his military records were burned in the St. Louis Fire. I > only received his service certification stating his enlistment date and > his service terminated by death and the date. I also tried the VA but the > number they gave me to acquire the documents in Mass. when I called they > won't release documents to civilians. > > Wayne Rish <[email protected]> wrote: You need to send for his > military records. I think you can go to the NARA web site for > instructions of how to order the records. Mary >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Betty B" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, 03 July, 2007 19:56 >Subject: [MNRAMSEY] Obtaining a copy of a Death Certificate > > >> I am looking for some guidance in obtaining my brother's death >> certificate. Kenneth Wilford Brandl was born on 09/08/1925 and was >> killed in Okinawa while serving in the US Army. His death was by >> accident while working on a plane on 06/29/1945 on base. I was only 4 >> years old at the time and it was a good year or so before his body was >> shipped to White Bear Lake, Minn. Where and can I obtain a death >> certificate on my brother from the State of Minnesota since his death >> occurred outside of the US. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Ron >> Brandl, Winter Springs, FL. >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user >> panel and lay it on us. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I work in a political office. You may want to write to your congressman or senators, you'd be surprised at how accommodating federal departments become when the request comes to them in that manner. (And what elected official wouldn't want to help you when it involves such a sensitive and patriotic, family matter.) Scott Renstrom >>> <[email protected]> 7/4/2007 9:25 AM >>> In a message dated 7/4/2007 8:51:44 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Thanks , All his military records were burned in the St. Louis Fire. I only received his service certification stating his enlistment date and his service terminated by death and the date. I also tried the VA but the number they gave me to acquire the documents in Mass. when I called they won't release documents to civilians. Wayne Rish <[email protected]> wrote: You need to send for his military records. I think you can go to the NARA web site for instructions of how to order the records. Mary need to send for his military records. I think you can go to the NARA web site for instructions of how to order the records. You go to this website and get them under the Freedom of Information Act. If one of your parents is alive, have them sign for them, but you can get them. Annie in Minnesota ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ( http://www.aol.com./ ) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Kate for your suggestions, I have been trying to contact VA all morning, actually trying to get a real person on the phone, leaving messages didn't help. I'm very persistent, in fact, one response I received said for me to contact my representative or senator, and I will if I need to go that far. Kenneth Brandl's parents are deceased, the remaining family was so young when this happened that they don't recall anything. Last week was the anniversary of his death and my husband's birthday on the same date so I am also trying to help him get the information. Thanks Betty [email protected] wrote: 1. Have you asked Ramsey Co.? Even if they didn't issue a death cert for him they might have other paperwork re bringing him back here. 2. Have you asked the Army where the Death Cert. would have been issued? They could probably tell you the rules re such deaths. 3. I'm no expert, but I'm sure that there are/were reports on his death prepared by the army. There might also be service records, etc., though I know that a fire at the National Archives destroyed many records from about that time period. I traced a relative who died in a plane collision over England in 1943. There was a report prepared on the crash of which I hope to get a copy. By cruising the Internet I found a guy who copies files of reports like this for researchers. I am deferring the expense right now, but his charge was about $25 a few years ago. --my point is that you might find such reports available without going to a major archive. Kate On Jul 3 2007, Betty B wrote: > I am looking for some guidance in obtaining my brother's death > certificate. Kenneth Wilford Brandl was born on 09/08/1925 and was killed > in Okinawa while serving in the US Army. His death was by accident while > working on a plane on 06/29/1945 on base. I was only 4 years old at the > time and it was a good year or so before his body was shipped to White > Bear Lake, Minn. Where and can I obtain a death certificate on my brother > from the State of Minnesota since his death occurred outside of the US. > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > Ron Brandl, Winter Springs, FL. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.

Hi: Thank you very much for the information. I will see if I can find the site for the Swensen Center. I will also check with the MN Hist. Soc. Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: P. J. Sward was pastor of First Lutheran Church in St. Paul from 1886-1894. A.P. Monten was pastor from 1877 to 1886. This information is from the 125th anniversary booklet from First Lutheran. The records for First were filmed by the Swedish church and copies are at Swensen Center and MN Historical Society. --- Bill Forshay wrote: > Hi list: > > I'm looking for the marriage cert. for Gustave > Hans NILSSON and Emma Maria SVENSSON. They were > married by a Rev. Svaard at a Swedish Lutheran > Church in Sept 1885. I wrote to the Vital Records > Ramsey Co., Dept. of Public Health and they said > they checked from 1850 to 1892 and found no record. > I can't believe if they were married in a church > that there was not a record kept. > > Does anyone know what church this Rev. SVAARD > belonged to? I know his daughter went to the First > Lutheran Church at 8th and Maria. > > Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX > > > --------------------------------- > Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email > wherever you're surfing. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool.

P. J. Sward was pastor of First Lutheran Church in St. Paul from 1886-1894. A.P. Monten was pastor from 1877 to 1886. This information is from the 125th anniversary booklet from First Lutheran. The records for First were filmed by the Swedish church and copies are at Swensen Center and MN Historical Society. --- Bill Forshay <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi list: > > I'm looking for the marriage cert. for Gustave > Hans NILSSON and Emma Maria SVENSSON. They were > married by a Rev. Svaard at a Swedish Lutheran > Church in Sept 1885. I wrote to the Vital Records > Ramsey Co., Dept. of Public Health and they said > they checked from 1850 to 1892 and found no record. > I can't believe if they were married in a church > that there was not a record kept. > > Does anyone know what church this Rev. SVAARD > belonged to? I know his daughter went to the First > Lutheran Church at 8th and Maria. > > Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX > > > --------------------------------- > Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email > wherever you're surfing. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC

Re the VA: I checked into getting a copy of the autopsy done on my grandfather at the VA. My mother (his child) had to sign for it. Then it turned out that the records were also in the fire. If no records are available on the individual, I would look for records/histories of the battle, which should specify which Army group was where & when--and with his Army Unit & the date of death, you might get so idea of what happened. Also: Mom's 1st cousin died in WWII. His commanding officer wrote the family to explain what happened & offer condolences. I have read a copy made by my g-aunt. i.e. copies might be floating around or summarized in old letters. Good luck! Kate n Jul 4 2007, Betty B wrote: > Thanks , All his military records were burned in the St. Louis Fire. I > only received his service certification stating his enlistment date and > his service terminated by death and the date. I also tried the VA but the > number they gave me to acquire the documents in Mass. when I called they > won't release documents to civilians. > > Wayne Rish <[email protected]> wrote: You need to send for his > military records. I think you can go to the NARA web site for > instructions of how to order the records. Mary >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Betty B" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, 03 July, 2007 19:56 >Subject: [MNRAMSEY] Obtaining a copy of a Death Certificate > > >> I am looking for some guidance in obtaining my brother's death >> certificate. Kenneth Wilford Brandl was born on 09/08/1925 and was >> killed in Okinawa while serving in the US Army. His death was by >> accident while working on a plane on 06/29/1945 on base. I was only 4 >> years old at the time and it was a good year or so before his body was >> shipped to White Bear Lake, Minn. Where and can I obtain a death >> certificate on my brother from the State of Minnesota since his death >> occurred outside of the US. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Ron >> Brandl, Winter Springs, FL. >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user >> panel and lay it on us. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > >

1. Have you asked Ramsey Co.? Even if they didn't issue a death cert for him they might have other paperwork re bringing him back here. 2. Have you asked the Army where the Death Cert. would have been issued? They could probably tell you the rules re such deaths. 3. I'm no expert, but I'm sure that there are/were reports on his death prepared by the army. There might also be service records, etc., though I know that a fire at the National Archives destroyed many records from about that time period. I traced a relative who died in a plane collision over England in 1943. There was a report prepared on the crash of which I hope to get a copy. By cruising the Internet I found a guy who copies files of reports like this for researchers. I am deferring the expense right now, but his charge was about $25 a few years ago. --my point is that you might find such reports available without going to a major archive. Kate On Jul 3 2007, Betty B wrote: > I am looking for some guidance in obtaining my brother's death > certificate. Kenneth Wilford Brandl was born on 09/08/1925 and was killed > in Okinawa while serving in the US Army. His death was by accident while > working on a plane on 06/29/1945 on base. I was only 4 years old at the > time and it was a good year or so before his body was shipped to White > Bear Lake, Minn. Where and can I obtain a death certificate on my brother > from the State of Minnesota since his death occurred outside of the US. > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > Ron Brandl, Winter Springs, FL.

In a message dated 7/4/2007 8:51:44 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Thanks , All his military records were burned in the St. Louis Fire. I only received his service certification stating his enlistment date and his service terminated by death and the date. I also tried the VA but the number they gave me to acquire the documents in Mass. when I called they won't release documents to civilians. Wayne Rish <[email protected]> wrote: You need to send for his military records. I think you can go to the NARA web site for instructions of how to order the records. Mary need to send for his military records. I think you can go to the NARA web site for instructions of how to order the records. You go to this website and get them under the Freedom of Information Act. If one of your parents is alive, have them sign for them, but you can get them. Annie in Minnesota ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

There won't be a death certificate in the Minnesota, since he didn't die in Minnesota. They are issued in the location where someone dies. Is there some specific piece of information that you expect to find on the death certificate, or just some kind of official record? If you are looking for an official record, there may be a burial permit in the records of the cemetery where he is buried. There may be other places to find the data, if you can identify it for us. Mary >I am looking for some guidance in obtaining my brother's death certificate. >Kenneth Wilford Brandl was born on 09/08/1925 and was killed in Okinawa >while serving in the US Army. His death was by accident while working on a >plane on 06/29/1945 on base. I was only 4 years old at the time and it was >a good year or so before his body was shipped to White Bear Lake, Minn. >Where and can I obtain a death certificate on my brother from the State of >Minnesota since his death occurred outside of the US. Any suggestions >would be appreciated. > Ron Brandl, Winter Springs, FL. Mary Bakeman [email protected] Ramsey MnGenWeb Coordintor http://www.parkbooks.com/MnGenWeb/ Park Genealogical Books http://www.parkbooks.com/

You need to send for his military records. I think you can go to the NARA web site for instructions of how to order the records. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty B" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, 03 July, 2007 19:56 Subject: [MNRAMSEY] Obtaining a copy of a Death Certificate >I am looking for some guidance in obtaining my brother's death certificate. >Kenneth Wilford Brandl was born on 09/08/1925 and was killed in Okinawa >while serving in the US Army. His death was by accident while working on a >plane on 06/29/1945 on base. I was only 4 years old at the time and it was >a good year or so before his body was shipped to White Bear Lake, Minn. >Where and can I obtain a death certificate on my brother from the State of >Minnesota since his death occurred outside of the US. Any suggestions >would be appreciated. > Ron Brandl, Winter Springs, FL. > > > --------------------------------- > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user > panel and lay it on us. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1312 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

His VA documents would tell me more about him since I never knew anything about him, however it would be nice to have some kind of record of his death. He is buried at St. Mary of the Lake Cemetery in White Bear Lake, Mn. Thank you, I'll attempt to locate some type of burial permit. That's why probably I was never able to locate anything on the websites regarding his death. Mary Bakeman <[email protected]> wrote: There won't be a death certificate in the Minnesota, since he didn't die in Minnesota. They are issued in the location where someone dies. Is there some specific piece of information that you expect to find on the death certificate, or just some kind of official record? If you are looking for an official record, there may be a burial permit in the records of the cemetery where he is buried. There may be other places to find the data, if you can identify it for us. Mary >I am looking for some guidance in obtaining my brother's death certificate. >Kenneth Wilford Brandl was born on 09/08/1925 and was killed in Okinawa >while serving in the US Army. His death was by accident while working on a >plane on 06/29/1945 on base. I was only 4 years old at the time and it was >a good year or so before his body was shipped to White Bear Lake, Minn. >Where and can I obtain a death certificate on my brother from the State of >Minnesota since his death occurred outside of the US. Any suggestions >would be appreciated. > Ron Brandl, Winter Springs, FL. Mary Bakeman [email protected] Ramsey MnGenWeb Coordintor http://www.parkbooks.com/MnGenWeb/ Park Genealogical Books http://www.parkbooks.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when.

Thanks , All his military records were burned in the St. Louis Fire. I only received his service certification stating his enlistment date and his service terminated by death and the date. I also tried the VA but the number they gave me to acquire the documents in Mass. when I called they won't release documents to civilians. Wayne Rish <[email protected]> wrote: You need to send for his military records. I think you can go to the NARA web site for instructions of how to order the records. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty B" To: Sent: Tuesday, 03 July, 2007 19:56 Subject: [MNRAMSEY] Obtaining a copy of a Death Certificate >I am looking for some guidance in obtaining my brother's death certificate. >Kenneth Wilford Brandl was born on 09/08/1925 and was killed in Okinawa >while serving in the US Army. His death was by accident while working on a >plane on 06/29/1945 on base. I was only 4 years old at the time and it was >a good year or so before his body was shipped to White Bear Lake, Minn. >Where and can I obtain a death certificate on my brother from the State of >Minnesota since his death occurred outside of the US. Any suggestions >would be appreciated. > Ron Brandl, Winter Springs, FL. > > > --------------------------------- > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user > panel and lay it on us. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1312 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool.

I am looking for some guidance in obtaining my brother's death certificate. Kenneth Wilford Brandl was born on 09/08/1925 and was killed in Okinawa while serving in the US Army. His death was by accident while working on a plane on 06/29/1945 on base. I was only 4 years old at the time and it was a good year or so before his body was shipped to White Bear Lake, Minn. Where and can I obtain a death certificate on my brother from the State of Minnesota since his death occurred outside of the US. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Ron Brandl, Winter Springs, FL. --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us.

Hi list: I'm looking for the marriage cert. for Gustave Hans NILSSON and Emma Maria SVENSSON. They were married by a Rev. Svaard at a Swedish Lutheran Church in Sept 1885. I wrote to the Vital Records Ramsey Co., Dept. of Public Health and they said they checked from 1850 to 1892 and found no record. I can't believe if they were married in a church that there was not a record kept. Does anyone know what church this Rev. SVAARD belonged to? I know his daughter went to the First Lutheran Church at 8th and Maria. Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX --------------------------------- Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing.