----- Original Message ----- From: "Bart Hansen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:32 AM Subject: [MNRAMSEY] Lutheran Church Records Looking at the LDS site for St Paul, I don't see any Lutheran records listed. Is there some other place where old records are kept? ELCA does not have what I need, which is specifically for the Redeemer Church on Dale St. I am prepared to call Redeemer, but wanted to check here first. Thanks, Bart ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Looking at the LDS site for St Paul, I don't see any Lutheran records listed. Is there some other place where old records are kept? ELCA does not have what I need, which is specifically for the Redeemer Church on Dale St. I am prepared to call Redeemer, but wanted to check here first. Thanks, Bart

What records are at the LDS site for St. Paul and where do I find the site? Dotaz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bart Hansen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 9:32 AM Subject: [MNRAMSEY] Lutheran Church Records > Looking at the LDS site for St Paul, I don't see any Lutheran records > listed. Is there some other place where old records are kept? ELCA > does not have what I need, which is specifically for the Redeemer > Church on Dale St. > > I am prepared to call Redeemer, but wanted to check here first. > > Thanks, > Bart > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am looking for information about a group of Quakers (Society of Friends) that moved from the Kennett Square, PA area to St. Paul, MN in 1857. Among them were members of the Phillips family: Joseph, John B., James, Hannah and perhaps others. John B. settled in St. Paul. He was a doctor. He died in 1877.

I found them in the Minnesota Death index. Chester; Certificate #1957-mn-028894 Marjorie; Certificate #1964-mn-028987 b.5.15.1889, out of state, mothers maiden name; Carkweek; d.2.8.1964 If you order her death certificate you may be lucky enough to get her maiden name. it's 9.00 per certificate if you order through the Historical society. hope this helps, Michelle State Census Coordinator for michellepesola on yahoo messenger michellepesola on MSN messenger michellepesola on AOL IM 21470385 on ICQ ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Bakeman To: MNRAMSEY ; [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 3:54 PM Subject: [MNRAMSEY] query Any other ideas or help to offer? Be sure to include George in your addressing -- I don't know if he is subscribed to out list. There is also interlibrary loan of the newspapers through public libraries from the MN Historical Society; we have a swap page at <http://www.parkbooks.com/MnGenWeb/swap.html>; and the MN Hist. Soc. will also do this kind of research for a minimal charge. Mary List mom +++++++++++++++++ April 1, 2008, George L. Gray, [email protected] Chester Campbell Waters died 5 May 1957 in Ramsey County and his second wife, Marjorie G. (surname unknown) died in Ramsey County 8 Feb 1964. I seek information on how to obtain their obituaries. This information is requested for a genealogical project. Thank you ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Any other ideas or help to offer? Be sure to include George in your addressing -- I don't know if he is subscribed to out list. There is also interlibrary loan of the newspapers through public libraries from the MN Historical Society; we have a swap page at <http://www.parkbooks.com/MnGenWeb/swap.html>; and the MN Hist. Soc. will also do this kind of research for a minimal charge. Mary List mom +++++++++++++++++ April 1, 2008, George L. Gray, [email protected] Chester Campbell Waters died 5 May 1957 in Ramsey County and his second wife, Marjorie G. (surname unknown) died in Ramsey County 8 Feb 1964. I seek information on how to obtain their obituaries. This information is requested for a genealogical project. Thank you

A note of thanks and appreciation to Thelma and Kathie for all their help with my Jasmin query. You are both great researchers and I am most grateful! Lois Researching Jasmin in Ramsey County, MN

Hello from the extracted marriage records on Family search here is the marriage that you are looking for http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp Apr 29, 1878 in Saint Paul, Ramsey , Minnesota between Alfons or Alfones Gasmin and Melina Courvillo or Courville Batch # M746622 Source Call # 1314549 V. M-O Now you only have to puzzle about Julia Gounia. Have fun Thelma >> > In the Minnesota Birth Index, Gladys Evelyn Vinson was born in > Ramsey County on 6-21-1911 and her mothers maiden name was > Jasmin. In the Minnesota death index Evelyn A.Vinson, born 5-17- > 1888, died on 3-6-1991 in Ramsey County. Her mothers maiden name > is listed as Courville. I am fairly sure this is Alphonse and > Malina's daughter so Malina's maiden name would have been > Courville. This could be verified by obtaining copies of birth > and death certificates through the Minnesota History Center. > Hope this helps. (Incidentally Gladys Vinson married Clifford > Oliver Mellin and had four children of her own - James, Donald, > John, and Mary. Also according to the Death Index there is a > Paul Albert Jasmin, born 11-9-1882 and died 11-2-1963 in Hubbard > County. His mothers married name was also Courville - I believe > this may be Albert. >

Hi Kathie, You certainly have given a lot of your time in answering my question, and believe me, I am very grateful. Will take time today to digest it all and get back to you to let you know how I make out. It can be confusing sometimes, since there were 2 Jasmin brothers who came from Canada and settled in or near St. Paul. I just started with Alphonse to avoid confusion. The other brother was Arsene Jasmin (1859-1947), born in Quebec, who married Azlie Marcotte (abt. 1868-1926), born in Quebec as well. They both died in Ramsey Cty., MN. I don't have a marriage date for them. Thanks again for being such a help! Lois Kathie Jennrich <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Lois: Here is what I found: 1885 Census – Dakota County, West St. Paul: Alphonse Jasmin – Age 36 Born in Canada Caroline Jasmin – Age 34 Born in Canada All the children were born in Minnesota Alphonse – age 6 Arthur – Age 4 Albert – Age 2 Leon – Age 6/12 1900 Census – Ramsey County Ward 6 Alphonse Jasmin – July 1856 Both married 22 years Malina – June 1861 – 6 children living of 7 born Albert – Nov 1882 Leon E – Dec 1884 Thomas E – May 1886 Eveline A – May 1888 Alma – Feb 1894 1905 Census – Ramsey County St. Paul Ward 4 Alphonse Jasmin – 48 - Shoemaker Malina Jasmin - 42 Albert – 22 - Clerk Leon – 20 - Lithographer Thos. – 19 - Moulder Evelyn – 17 The 1920 Census for Los Angeles California lists an Arthur Jasmin born in Minnesota, parents born in Canada. Since according to the 1900 Census Malina had 6 living children out of 7 born, I would say that Alphonse, the first born, died sometime before 1900. In the Minnesota Birth Index, Gladys Evelyn Vinson was born in Ramsey County on 6-21-1911 and her mothers maiden name was Jasmin. In the Minnesota death index Evelyn A.Vinson, born 5-17-1888, died on 3-6-1991 in Ramsey County. Her mothers maiden name is listed as Courville. I am fairly sure this is Alphonse and Malina's daughter so Malina's maiden name would have been Courville. This could be verified by obtaining copies of birth and death certificates through the Minnesota History Center. Hope this helps. (Incidentally Gladys Vinson married Clifford Oliver Mellin and had four children of her own - James, Donald, John, and Mary. Also according to the Death Index there is a Paul Albert Jasmin, born 11-9-1882 and died 11-2-1963 in Hubbard County. His mothers married name was also Courville - I believe this may be Albert. Hope this all helps! Kathie LOIS FLOOK wrote: Hi All, I am trying to find information on my ggranduncle, Alphonse Jasmin (1856-1942), born in Quebec,Canada and died in Ramsey County. He married a Melina Unknown (1861-1927), born in Quebec, Canada and died in Ramsey County. Alphonse is listed in the 1885 census as married, living with his wife and 4 children in St. Paul. His occupation was a shoemaker. I am intially looking for the last name of his wife, and his marriage, which I believe was about 1878. His first child, Alphonse, was born about 1879 in Minnesota. Any help you can provide will be very much appreciated. Lois Flook at [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Lois: Here is what I found: 1885 Census – Dakota County, West St. Paul: Alphonse Jasmin – Age 36 Born in Canada Caroline Jasmin – Age 34 Born in Canada All the children were born in Minnesota Alphonse – age 6 Arthur – Age 4 Albert – Age 2 Leon – Age 6/12 1900 Census – Ramsey County Ward 6 Alphonse Jasmin – July 1856 Both married 22 years Malina – June 1861 – 6 children living of 7 born Albert – Nov 1882 Leon E – Dec 1884 Thomas E – May 1886 Eveline A – May 1888 Alma – Feb 1894 1905 Census – Ramsey County St. Paul Ward 4 Alphonse Jasmin – 48 - Shoemaker Malina Jasmin - 42 Albert – 22 - Clerk Leon – 20 - Lithographer Thos. – 19 - Moulder Evelyn – 17 The 1920 Census for Los Angeles California lists an Arthur Jasmin born in Minnesota, parents born in Canada. Since according to the 1900 Census Malina had 6 living children out of 7 born, I would say that Alphonse, the first born, died sometime before 1900. In the Minnesota Birth Index, Gladys Evelyn Vinson was born in Ramsey County on 6-21-1911 and her mothers maiden name was Jasmin. In the Minnesota death index Evelyn A.Vinson, born 5-17-1888, died on 3-6-1991 in Ramsey County. Her mothers maiden name is listed as Courville. I am fairly sure this is Alphonse and Malina's daughter so Malina's maiden name would have been Courville. This could be verified by obtaining copies of birth and death certificates through the Minnesota History Center. Hope this helps. (Incidentally Gladys Vinson married Clifford Oliver Mellin and had four children of her own - James, Donald, John, and Mary. Also according to the Death Index there is a Paul Albert Jasmin, born 11-9-1882 and died 11-2-1963 in Hubbard County. His mothers married name was also Courville - I believe this may be Albert. Hope this all helps! Kathie LOIS FLOOK <[email protected]> wrote: Hi All, I am trying to find information on my ggranduncle, Alphonse Jasmin (1856-1942), born in Quebec,Canada and died in Ramsey County. He married a Melina Unknown (1861-1927), born in Quebec, Canada and died in Ramsey County. Alphonse is listed in the 1885 census as married, living with his wife and 4 children in St. Paul. His occupation was a shoemaker. I am intially looking for the last name of his wife, and his marriage, which I believe was about 1878. His first child, Alphonse, was born about 1879 in Minnesota. Any help you can provide will be very much appreciated. Lois Flook at [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

Hello you may have seen this but just in case it might be helpful from the 1880 census of Minnesota here is the family with Melina's mother living with them - you may have to try to look at the original to see what the actual spelling of her last name might be Alphonse JASSMAN Self M Male W 26 CANADA Shoemaker CANADA CANADA Melina JASSMAN Wife M Female W 19 CANADA Keeping House CANADA CANADA Alphonse JASSMAN Son S Male W 1 MN CANADA CANADA Julia GOUNIA MotherL W Female W 45 CANADA CANADA CANADA Source Information: Census PlaceSt. Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota Family History Library Film 1254631 NA Film Number T9-0631 Page Number 410C Best of luck Sam Hi All, I am trying to find information on my ggranduncle, Alphonse Jasmin (1856-1942), born in Quebec,Canada and died in Ramsey County. He married a Melina Unknown (1861-1927), born in Quebec, Canada and died in Ramsey County. Alphonse is listed in the 1885 census as married, living with his wife and 4 children in St. Paul. His occupation was a shoemaker. I am intially looking for the last name of his wife, and his marriage, which I believe was about 1878. His first child, Alphonse, was born about 1879 in Minnesota. Any help you can provide will be very much appreciated. Lois Flook at [email protected]

Hi All, I am trying to find information on my ggranduncle, Alphonse Jasmin (1856-1942), born in Quebec,Canada and died in Ramsey County. He married a Melina Unknown (1861-1927), born in Quebec, Canada and died in Ramsey County. Alphonse is listed in the 1885 census as married, living with his wife and 4 children in St. Paul. His occupation was a shoemaker. I am intially looking for the last name of his wife, and his marriage, which I believe was about 1878. His first child, Alphonse, was born about 1879 in Minnesota. Any help you can provide will be very much appreciated. Lois Flook at [email protected]

Can anyone help him? Be sure to use his address for response, as he may not be subscribed to our list. For those of you who aren't familiar with city directories: They are published every year (even now), and typically include address and occupation. They are more like a phone book than a census. Women are typically NOT listed, unless they have their own business, or in some years, students. They are great for figuring out the nearest church, or when people moved, as some even give where they went. There are always ads for businesses, lists of fraternal organizations, churches, etc. Some are on-line, some are not. I love them, just don't have the time to take on clients or do lookups in them! Mary List Mom +++++++++++++ 25 March 2008 Gerard R. Bogowith [email protected] 1911 St Paul Minnesota City Directory: Attempting to locate an entry and information for Barbara Brandl, age 18. 1913 St Paul Minnesota City Directory: Attempting to locate an entry and information for Louis Laudenbach, age 31 and spouse Barbara Laudenbach (Brandl), age 20.

I don't know of all the replys which you have recieved but let me say that you should consider forging ahead regardless.? As for it to be upsetting to someone, well how about upsetting to you? My home in the winter is in Surprise, AZ and in the summer the twin cities or should I say St. Paul. I get down to the history museum quite often and if you have any thing special you would like to have looked up let me know, or maybe someone there is already helping you. God Bless, Norman Ackert -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 2:47 pm Subject: [MNRAMSEY] BIRTH PARENT(s) SEARCH Hello List Perhaps the third year of posting may bring some result to my quest. First let me again thank you for the response and consideration that many of you have given to my inquiry. I have followed many of the leads provided but alas to no avail, perhaps someday before it is too late. There were also a few replies that indicated that I had no right to ask for any information, that perhaps if my actual parents wanted me to know they in turn would be searching for me, and one reply, from a private investigator who is subscribed to this list, that indicated that it would be upsetting to my birth parents. To the latter my response would be, perhaps they have tried thru a private investigator as you indicated that you were, it has been my experience with PI's such as you, that you do not know which end is up and will take my money and provide negative results under the guise of an investigation. Also a lot of the emails ask for more details, so I will again post my question to the list in hopes that someone new may find a bit of information that will open that door. "Searching for Birth Mother & Birth Father. I was born March 06, 1971 in St Paul. Information that I have on Birth Mother is: She was born in Illinois in 1952 and attended HS in Ramsey or Hennepin County, she worked as a nurses aide in a local nursing home and took pottery classes at a Wisconsin college. She also took a summer school class in art. She had 2 other sisters, one which was a telephone operator, and 1 brother who had 2 years of college and had served in the army. I have more identifying information for my Birth Mother. My Birth Father was born in Wisconsin in 1952, he worked at an automotive dealership or automotive repair place in Ramsey County, IF ANYONE KNOWS, OR BELIEVES THEY KNOW, WHO MY BIRTH MOTHER,OR BIRTH FATHER MAY BE, PLEASE CONTACT ME BY E-MAIL AT: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) _ (_mailto:[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) ) Thank You" Forever Seeking.... Michelle **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Michelle, I have a story to tell you to give you some encouragement. My sister had a baby out of wedlock in 1966. She was encouraged by all family to give her baby for adoption. One family member even attempted to get an abortion for her. (They were not legal back then) She did as she was told and gave her baby away because she wanted her child to have a better life than she knew she could give her. I was the little sister and was not included in all that was going on. One day,a few years ago, after I had begun to research our family tree, I found some web sites where people were searching for missing family members.Some were parents looking for children they had given away or that had been taken away. Some were children looking for birth parents. Some were siblings looking for brothers or sisters they had been separated from. I suddenly remembered hearing my sister weeping alone in her room. And I remembered a portion of scripture..."Rachel weeping for her children that were not..." I called my sister. We had never discussed her baby. Our family was very disfunctional and we were not close. I called her and asked if she had ever wanted to find her child. She said she had always wondered about her but had made a promise to never look for her. I said that I had not promised and would it be OK with her if I went looking. She it would be OK if the child was looking for her. So, I began to search all the web sites I could find, to no avail. My sister had the birth date, the hospital and the parents names and knew the child's given name. Every 3-4 months I would check the web sites and see if there was any new listings. It is amazing how many people are looking for their family members. One day about 3 years later, I found a new website that required us to put in some information. I called my sister and as we were talking about what to put in and while I was on the phone with her, I found her daughter looking for her birth mother. I gave the contact information to my sister, but after I thought about it, I thought she would be too hesitant to follow through. Even though the child was looking for her, my sister was afraid of how the child would receive her because she had given the baby away. On the other hand, the child was afraid that the birth mother would not want to see her because she had been given away. The reality was that my sister always wanted to know about her and the child had always wanted to know the mother. My sisters words were, "Maybe now there can be some closure." I e-mailed the girl and my sister did, too. I live in FL, my sister lived in CA, and the girl lived in Atlanta, GA. The girl e-mailed my sister the sweetest letter thanking her for giving her the opportunity for a wonderful life. She had been talking the week before to a young highschool girl who was tormented that she had made a wrong decision to give up her child for adoption. She told the girl that she wished she could find her birth mother to be able to thank her for the decision she had made. We made contact the week of Christmas and felt we all had the best Christmas gift ever. The following October, I met my niece for the first time face-to-face. We both enjoyed looking at each other to see the family resemblance. She brought to me all of her mothers photo albums and shared her entire life with me. It was wonderful. She was married with three children. Her husband surprised her 2 years ago and took her to CA to meet her birth mother face-to-face. They had several hours together. She had found her birth father by then and was, also, able to meet him on that trip. My sister was blessed to meet them and hear all about her grandchildren. My sister died a year ago. Her daughter was able to be at the funeral and spent time with all of us. There were some very inquisitive looks and whispers, but one of my sisters highschool friends was there and knew right away who she was. It was a great time of bringing all things full circle for all of us. I encourage you to keep on looking. I know your mother has never forgotten you. There may be some uncomfortable moments for you and her, but you will get through it. You need to meet her and she needs to meet you. It may be different for your father, but do not give up. There are grandparents that want to meet you, too. Who knows? You may have an aunt, like me, who is looking for you! Mary K. Rish -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 2972 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.download.com/Spamfighter/3000-2382_4-10764780.html

Hello List Perhaps the third year of posting may bring some result to my quest. First let me again thank you for the response and consideration that many of you have given to my inquiry. I have followed many of the leads provided but alas to no avail, perhaps someday before it is too late. There were also a few replies that indicated that I had no right to ask for any information, that perhaps if my actual parents wanted me to know they in turn would be searching for me, and one reply, from a private investigator who is subscribed to this list, that indicated that it would be upsetting to my birth parents. To the latter my response would be, perhaps they have tried thru a private investigator as you indicated that you were, it has been my experience with PI's such as you, that you do not know which end is up and will take my money and provide negative results under the guise of an investigation. Also a lot of the emails ask for more details, so I will again post my question to the list in hopes that someone new may find a bit of information that will open that door. "Searching for Birth Mother & Birth Father. I was born March 06, 1971 in St Paul. Information that I have on Birth Mother is: She was born in Illinois in 1952 and attended HS in Ramsey or Hennepin County, she worked as a nurses aide in a local nursing home and took pottery classes at a Wisconsin college. She also took a summer school class in art. She had 2 other sisters, one which was a telephone operator, and 1 brother who had 2 years of college and had served in the army. I have more identifying information for my Birth Mother. My Birth Father was born in Wisconsin in 1952, he worked at an automotive dealership or automotive repair place in Ramsey County, IF ANYONE KNOWS, OR BELIEVES THEY KNOW, WHO MY BIRTH MOTHER,OR BIRTH FATHER MAY BE, PLEASE CONTACT ME BY E-MAIL AT: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) _ (_mailto:[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) ) Thank You" Forever Seeking.... Michelle **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

I want to point out this learning opportunity to our list members. (I am one of the volunteers.) - Mary W. _____ The Minnesota Genealogy Spring Conference will be held March 29, 2008 at the Rochester Community and Technical College in Rochester, Minnesota. The conference offers educational seminars and exhibits to help family historians and genealogists expand their research skills. Registration begins at 8 a.m. Three multi-track sessions are scheduled from 9 a.m. to 2:30 p.m. at the Rochester Community and Technical College. The Minnesota Genealogical Society, in association with the Olmsted County Genealogical Society, is sponsor of the event. The program features presentations by three board-certified genealogists and experts in Southeast Minnesota family history. Rosalie Schack, CG, of Owatonna will speak on Minnesota cemetery research. Sandy Thalman of Rochester will give tips on researching ancestors in Southeast Minnesota. Joanne Sher, CG, will speak on researching female ancestors and how to get around genealogical brick walls. Jay Fonkert, CG, will lecture on using maps and geographic information in family history. Other featured topics include genealogy resources of the Minnesota Historical Society and lessons for genealogists wanting to make best use of their personal computers. Registration is $25 for MGS and OGGS members, and $30 for others. A box lunch is available for $10. Registration is available online at <outbind://19/www.mngs.org> www.mngs.org, or at the door the day of the event. The Minnesota Genealogical Society is a volunteer-managed, nonprofit organization devoted to helping Minnesotans research their family history.

Hello Pat, Just a thought........................Back in the day lumbering was the main means of jobs. From lumbering came the need of railroads. My family is from that area, most from Stillwater (Washington) MN. Slitter was considered a very large town (the birthplace of MN) where many lumber and railroad (rich people) lived and built huge home's and businesses. I believe every railroad that was in business at that time was represented and brought great wealth to the St. Crook Valley. My grandfather worked for the Great Northern Railroad as an electrician, when the lumbering business died out, about 1920, he was transferred to St. Paul to work for them. The railroads have some good records, ofcourse, in the same places all other archives are. The Washington Co Historical Society has or had much of that information, I understand some of it has been sent to the Minnesota History Center. Good Luck, Judy

I've "rescued" an old photograph identified as Will VANDERPOOL which was taken at the Hooker Studio in St. Paul, Minnesota. The photograph appears to have been taken in the 1880's with Will likely in his 30's at the time the photograph was taken. Based on limited research I was able to gather the following information regarding Will and his family: William H. VANDERPOOL b. 12 Mar 1850 in WI to parents William VANDERPOOL (b. 29 Dec 1795 in Guilderland, NY) and Wyntje "Jemima" VAN BENSCHOTEN (b. 15 Feb 1810 in Knox, NY). Will married Emma A. BROWN (b. 16 Sept 1855 in Caldwell, WI) at St. Paul, MN and they had a child Ivah B. VANDERPOOL b. 9 Mar 1877 in WI. Census records provide the following information: 1860 census of Vernon, WI: William VANDERPOOL, age 64, a Farmer, born NY Jemima VANDERPOOL, age 51, born NY William VANDERPOOL, age 9, born WI 1880 census of Eagle, WI: W. H. VANDERPOOL, age 28, a Harness maker, born WI, parents born NY Emma VANDERPOOL, wife, age 25, Housekeeping born WI, parents born NY Iva VANDERPOOL, dau, age 2, at Home, born WI V. SCHMITZ, age 23, a Merchant, born WI, parents born Germany Jim CRAWLEY, age 23, an Engineer, born WI, parents born Ireland I am hoping to locate someone from this VANDERPOOL Family so that this wonderful old photograph can be returned to the care of family. If you are a member of this family, or you know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

Pat, Have you checked the 1875 MN State Census? Mary Rish ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Crimmel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, 28 February, 2008 20:59 Subject: [MNRAMSEY] Smith children born 1860's-70's > Thank you to both, Judy and Mary, for your suggestions on my search for > the birth of David Smith's 5 children born in Minnesota. Family lore > always said these children were born in White Bear Lake. When I first > started to check on these children I put White Bear Lake into Google. > Google states WBL is in Ramsey County "with a small portion in Washington > County. According to the 1870 census, David, his wife and 3 children are > living in Marine, Washington County. I first assumed this was Marine on > St. Croix. In checking again the 1870 census, which is the only census > this family was in Minnesota, it states the post office is in Marine > Mills. > > Again, according to the 1870 census, David Smith is working for the > railroad. I'm now wondering if he and the family were living in a > railroad camp near the lake and that's why some members of the family > stated they were born in White Bear Lake. As years pass words get > changed and they might have said they were born on or near WBL, not > referring to the town but referring to the Lake it's self. > > I did check with the MN Historical Society and there is no listing on > their early birth records for any of the Smith children born in MN. The > Smith family left MN in late 1875 or early '76, stayed there for > approximately 3 years and by the 1880 Federal Census was in Washington > State. > > Again, thank you for all your suggestions. I will also do some checking > in Washington County. Also see what I can learn about the railroad > coming through that area. > > Pat Crimmel > WA state > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 2960 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.download.com/Spamfighter/3000-2382_4-10764780.html