This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DIB.2ACE/340.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: That's right, I don't know the relation, if any, between Archibald and Charles except he was not Charles son. Charles wasn't married until 1845. Archibald is in the 1850 Ohio census, age 12. Cinderella is his next younger sibling, age 8 in 1850, youngest is Morgan, aged 2. Sister Hannah is 13 and brother James is 17 and a "plasterer". The head of household though is "Jane Kingsley," a 40 year old woman born in New Jersey. In the 1880 Census (Minnesota) she is living with Cinderella and Corlett Hill (and their children) and is listed as Corlett's mother-in-law which means she's Cinderella's mother. Her occupation is listed as "midwife". She must have reverted to her maiden name. So, who's the father? :-) She was born about 1810 and in the 1850 census for Ohio, Levi and Foster Savidge were both born in New Jersey, 1816 and 1817, respectively. They could be younger brothers-in-law though they live in Wyandot with all the other Savidges while Jane, Archibald, Cinderella, et al live in Van Wert. I can't find Jane under Kingsley or Savidge in New Jersey.