I've "rescued" an old photograph of May C. BARRETT of 124 Laurel Avenue, Minneapolis, Minnesota. The photograph was taken in the early 1900's with Miss BARRETT appearing to be in her teens at the time. In addition to her name, someone has written "Miss BARRETE, Music Teacher at Luther" on the front of the photograph. I'm hoping to be able to locate someone from her family so that this wonderful old photograph can be returned to their care. If you are a member of this BARRETT Family, or if you know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

Roy, I've used _www.raogk.org_ (http://www.raogk.org) (Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness) very successfully, and reasonably, for the type of information for which you are asking. Alice in Arizona In a message dated 5/8/2007 12:07:25 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, mnhennep-request@rootsweb.com writes: I agree it's not unreasonable to expect some sort of compensation or reimbursement. A charge of $15.00 per obituary (which is what I found available online) seems a bit over "minimum expenses". When I do lookups for someone in the Peoria area I do it when I'm doing my own research. I'm also in the process of doing a online tombstone photo index of a cemetery with over 70,000 interments which is quite time-consuming (only 67,000 more to go...) but am doing it for current and future generations of researchers in the area. My hope was that someone who frequents the library could take a few moments to look them up but I think I'll either pay to get them or plan a trip to Minnesota at some point to find them and perhaps be able to pursue even more information. Thank you to all that replied. Roy Meyer ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Thank you to all who responded. With the info below and a couple other replies I now have a lead on a cousin! And I'd made reference to the wrong city - they were in the Minneapolis area, not St. Paul. With luck I'll know much more about that side of the family soon. Thanks again, Roy Meyer -----Original Message----- From: AnnE Austin [mailto:AnneRAustin@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:08 PM To: roy@royden.net; mnhennep@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MNHennep] SCHMID in St. Paul area Roy, I just spent a half hour looking for some info for you. I only did this via the computer and here's what found. Roland C. Schmid DOB March 31, 1895 Died 10-13-74 SS # 474-14-9400 55391 Deephaven, Medina, Orono, Wayzata, Woodland all in Hennepin Co. MN. Paul W. Schmid turns out that it is probably Willard Paul Schmid. DOB I haven't found yet as the site is down right now. Died Dec. 7, 1953 Spouse: Marquerite Blekkink DOB 4-29-1903 Died 1-10-1998 Married 7-25-1925. Children 1. Sarah Louise Schmid 8-12-1927 and in 2004 2 living female children. Contact James Crawford jcrawford@earthlink.net Now, I have no idea if that e-address is even correct but you could write and see. Btw, I don't live very far from Deephaven and the other names of cities above. If I find any other info, I'll send it on. Regards, AnnE in MN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Meyer" <roydent@verizon.net> To: <mnhennep@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [MNHennep] SCHMID in St. Paul area I agree it's not unreasonable to expect some sort of compensation or reimbursement. A charge of $15.00 per obituary (which is what I found available online) seems a bit over "minimum expenses". When I do lookups for someone in the Peoria area I do it when I'm doing my own research. I'm also in the process of doing a online tombstone photo index of a cemetery with over 70,000 interments which is quite time-consuming (only 67,000 more to go...) but am doing it for current and future generations of researchers in the area. My hope was that someone who frequents the library could take a few moments to look them up but I think I'll either pay to get them or plan a trip to Minnesota at some point to find them and perhaps be able to pursue even more information. Thank you to all that replied. Roy Meyer From: shiel007@umn.edu Date: 2007/05/07 Mon AM 08:00:00 CDT To: mnhennep@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MNHennep] SCHMID in St. Paul area Roy: I have given up on helping strangers because of people who expect me to spend my own money, in addition to my time, doing their research. It is not unreasonable to expect to pay the minimum expenses the person has incurred on your behalf. The MN History Center will search for obits for you, and I doubt that they make money on their fees for doing so. Kate On May 6 2007, Roy Meyer wrote: > At least two of my grandmother's cousins lived in the St. Paul area > and > I've been trying for several years to make contact with that branch of > my > family. I've found their death dates and am hoping someone could get > me > obits (or at least the "survived by" info from them) to increase my > chances of finding cousins in the Twin Cities area. I've found a few > different volunteers online but they want to charge a fee (which > sounds > more like a paid researcher as opposed to a true volunteer). Roland C. > Schmid, died Oct 13, 1974 in St. Paul and his brother Paul W. Schmid > who > died Dec 7, 1953. Thank you in advance to anyone that can offer > assistance. Roy Meyer Peoria, Illinois > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please > send > an email to MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Roy, I just spent a half hour looking for some info for you. I only did this via the computer and here's what found. Roland C. Schmid DOB March 31, 1895 Died 10-13-74 SS # 474-14-9400 55391 Deephaven, Medina, Orono, Wayzata, Woodland all in Hennepin Co. MN. Paul W. Schmid turns out that it is probably Willard Paul Schmid. DOB I haven't found yet as the site is down right now. Died Dec. 7, 1953 Spouse: Marquerite Blekkink DOB 4-29-1903 Died 1-10-1998 Married 7-25-1925. Children 1. Sarah Louise Schmid 8-12-1927 and in 2004 2 living female children. Contact James Crawford jcrawford@earthlink.net Now, I have no idea if that e-address is even correct but you could write and see. Btw, I don't live very far from Deephaven and the other names of cities above. If I find any other info, I'll send it on. Regards, AnnE in MN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Meyer" <roydent@verizon.net> To: <mnhennep@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [MNHennep] SCHMID in St. Paul area I agree it's not unreasonable to expect some sort of compensation or reimbursement. A charge of $15.00 per obituary (which is what I found available online) seems a bit over "minimum expenses". When I do lookups for someone in the Peoria area I do it when I'm doing my own research. I'm also in the process of doing a online tombstone photo index of a cemetery with over 70,000 interments which is quite time-consuming (only 67,000 more to go...) but am doing it for current and future generations of researchers in the area. My hope was that someone who frequents the library could take a few moments to look them up but I think I'll either pay to get them or plan a trip to Minnesota at some point to find them and perhaps be able to pursue even more information. Thank you to all that replied. Roy Meyer From: shiel007@umn.edu Date: 2007/05/07 Mon AM 08:00:00 CDT To: mnhennep@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MNHennep] SCHMID in St. Paul area Roy: I have given up on helping strangers because of people who expect me to spend my own money, in addition to my time, doing their research. It is not unreasonable to expect to pay the minimum expenses the person has incurred on your behalf. The MN History Center will search for obits for you, and I doubt that they make money on their fees for doing so. Kate On May 6 2007, Roy Meyer wrote: > At least two of my grandmother's cousins lived in the St. Paul area > and > I've been trying for several years to make contact with that branch of > my > family. I've found their death dates and am hoping someone could get > me > obits (or at least the "survived by" info from them) to increase my > chances of finding cousins in the Twin Cities area. I've found a few > different volunteers online but they want to charge a fee (which > sounds > more like a paid researcher as opposed to a true volunteer). Roland C. > Schmid, died Oct 13, 1974 in St. Paul and his brother Paul W. Schmid > who > died Dec 7, 1953. Thank you in advance to anyone that can offer > assistance. Roy Meyer Peoria, Illinois > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please > send > an email to MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree it's not unreasonable to expect some sort of compensation or reimbursement. A charge of $15.00 per obituary (which is what I found available online) seems a bit over "minimum expenses". When I do lookups for someone in the Peoria area I do it when I'm doing my own research. I'm also in the process of doing a online tombstone photo index of a cemetery with over 70,000 interments which is quite time-consuming (only 67,000 more to go...) but am doing it for current and future generations of researchers in the area. My hope was that someone who frequents the library could take a few moments to look them up but I think I'll either pay to get them or plan a trip to Minnesota at some point to find them and perhaps be able to pursue even more information. Thank you to all that replied. Roy Meyer From: shiel007@umn.edu Date: 2007/05/07 Mon AM 08:00:00 CDT To: mnhennep@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MNHennep] SCHMID in St. Paul area Roy: I have given up on helping strangers because of people who expect me to spend my own money, in addition to my time, doing their research. It is not unreasonable to expect to pay the minimum expenses the person has incurred on your behalf. The MN History Center will search for obits for you, and I doubt that they make money on their fees for doing so. Kate On May 6 2007, Roy Meyer wrote: > At least two of my grandmother's cousins lived in the St. Paul area and > I've been trying for several years to make contact with that branch of my > family. I've found their death dates and am hoping someone could get me > obits (or at least the "survived by" info from them) to increase my > chances of finding cousins in the Twin Cities area. I've found a few > different volunteers online but they want to charge a fee (which sounds > more like a paid researcher as opposed to a true volunteer). Roland C. > Schmid, died Oct 13, 1974 in St. Paul and his brother Paul W. Schmid who > died Dec 7, 1953. Thank you in advance to anyone that can offer > assistance. Roy Meyer Peoria, Illinois > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send > an email to MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Roy: I have given up on helping strangers because of people who expect me to spend my own money, in addition to my time, doing their research. It is not unreasonable to expect to pay the minimum expenses the person has incurred on your behalf. The MN History Center will search for obits for you, and I doubt that they make money on their fees for doing so. Kate On May 6 2007, Roy Meyer wrote: > At least two of my grandmother's cousins lived in the St. Paul area and > I've been trying for several years to make contact with that branch of my > family. I've found their death dates and am hoping someone could get me > obits (or at least the "survived by" info from them) to increase my > chances of finding cousins in the Twin Cities area. I've found a few > different volunteers online but they want to charge a fee (which sounds > more like a paid researcher as opposed to a true volunteer). Roland C. > Schmid, died Oct 13, 1974 in St. Paul and his brother Paul W. Schmid who > died Dec 7, 1953. Thank you in advance to anyone that can offer > assistance. Roy Meyer Peoria, Illinois > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send > an email to MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've needed obits from Des Moines IA before. Ended up paying a lady to get them for me. I thought it was worth the $2 or 3 to $5 a piece to get the information. I certainly couldn't get there myself with the cost of gas. Don't think she made too much money on it either considering she had to drive to the library/archives to look it up for me, or the time she spent on my behalf. If I had paid her what she was worth I suppose most obits would have cost me $20 or more each. A few libraries across the U.S., the small local ones that have a reference librarian and newspapers on microfilm, have also looked up obits for me and only charged me the cost of the paper and postage. That might be an option for you if you don't hear from a volunteer. I live in Texas so it's hard for me to do all the research I want to do in Iowa, SD, MN, IL and IN. I try to find living relatives, too, and www.zabasearch.com has been a good tool to find some. The best to you in your research, Teresa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Meyer" <roy@royden.net> To: <MNHENNEP@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 11:10 AM Subject: [MNHennep] SCHMID in St. Paul area > At least two of my grandmother's cousins lived in the St. Paul area and > I've > been trying for several years to make contact with that branch of my > family. > I've found their death dates and am hoping someone could get me obits (or > at > least the "survived by" info from them) to increase my chances of finding > cousins in the Twin Cities area. I've found a few different volunteers > online but they want to charge a fee (which sounds more like a paid > researcher as opposed to a true volunteer). > Roland C. Schmid, died Oct 13, 1974 in St. Paul and his brother Paul W. > Schmid who died Dec 7, 1953. > Thank you in advance to anyone that can offer assistance. > Roy Meyer > Peoria, Illinois > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

At least two of my grandmother's cousins lived in the St. Paul area and I've been trying for several years to make contact with that branch of my family. I've found their death dates and am hoping someone could get me obits (or at least the "survived by" info from them) to increase my chances of finding cousins in the Twin Cities area. I've found a few different volunteers online but they want to charge a fee (which sounds more like a paid researcher as opposed to a true volunteer). Roland C. Schmid, died Oct 13, 1974 in St. Paul and his brother Paul W. Schmid who died Dec 7, 1953. Thank you in advance to anyone that can offer assistance. Roy Meyer Peoria, Illinois

Debbie, Have you searched for her at www.zabasearch.com? I find it helps me find living relatives. Just type in Terri Seck and you will find a couple of listings for that name. One is Terri L. Seck living in Lorretto MN, a phone number is given as well as a month and year of birth, which I believe is the one you are looking for. Both listings might be the same person, listing different places they have lived. It is my understanding that these listings come from public records and that's all I know about it. Teresa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Arnold" <arnold.deb@gmail.com> To: <MNHENNEP@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 7:15 PM Subject: [MNHennep] Terri Lee Estes Seck > I'm looking for Terri, whose address as of 1997 was Minneapolis. Her > husband is unknown. She has children, Travis, Trevor and Trenton. Could > someone check a phone book or other sources to see if we can come up with > an > address and phone number? Thank you, Debbie of Ohio > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I'm looking for Terri, whose address as of 1997 was Minneapolis. Her husband is unknown. She has children, Travis, Trevor and Trenton. Could someone check a phone book or other sources to see if we can come up with an address and phone number? Thank you, Debbie of Ohio

Claudia You are absolutely correct about the location of Niggler (2 G's) Cemetery. It is on Jefferson Highway just north of 85th. I can't seem to locate the exact address but it would be approximately 8601 Jefferson Highway. However, cemeteries on a road are hard to miss, even one as small as Niggler. It is a very small cemetery, about the size of a small house lot. But it is right on the road and she can't miss it. Coming south on Hwy 81 into Osseo, turn LEFT onto 85th Ave N at the McDonald's. Take 85th Ave to Jefferson Highway - approx 1/4 mile... the stoplight controlled intersection. Turn RIGHT onto Jefferson Highway. The cemetery will be on the left about 1 city block down. The gate is closed but not locked. If it IS locked, or too rusted to open (which happens), she can enter the cemetery by jumping down the low concrete block wall at the north end near the small industrial park. If she is coming south on Hwy 81 then she can turn RIGHT onto Jefferson Highway at the intersection of Hwy 81 and Central - it is Jefferson Hwy to the right. The cemetery will be approx 1 1/2 city blocks down the road on the right side of the street. I have quite a few relatives buried there, including my great great grandparents. Glad I could help Jo ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Forwarding this, hoping Jo Hogle will see this as I don't have her e-mail address. Thought you could answer this Jo. I did a mapquest on it and it shows it's on 85th Ave N. I was thinking it was the little cemetery that's across 81 and on Jefferson Hwy/Central Ave., south of Osseo? Can you give this lady directions? Thanks, Claudia Schuman ----- Original Message ----- From: glassow123@comcast.net To: schumanC@comcast.net Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 12:47 AM Subject: Nigler Cemetery Hello, I'm from Oregon and will be taking a family research trip in May to Minnesota and Wisconsin. I want to find my ancestors, the knobels, who are buried in Nigler Cemetery. Can you provide me with directions to and an address for Nigler Cemetery. Thanks you! Pat Glassow

I ran across at least two distant female relatives-by-marriage who said they were widowed. One had her husband living in downtown St. Paul. It took ancestry to find the other husband; the wife and kids were in Calif and he was in Montana near some of my closer relatives. There is also the fact that all dicorcees were considered "fast"--and widows were usually more respectable. In the late 1960's or so my grandmother rented out her house's basement (in Richfield) to a young woman who appeared to be Doing Business there. Grandma (in her eighties or so) and her elderly female boarder were upset, thinking that the neighbors would think that they were wild widows... --my Mom held her evict the young woman, who worked at a local bank Kate

Thanks all for the responses. I didn't think it was just my family, but it was interesting enough that I thought I would check. Divorce was always harder on women than men. Divorced women were less likely to remarry. And there was much more stigma...apparently for some reason it was a feeling that somehow it had to be the woman's fault... she either was a problem, or refused to put up with HIS problems. When I mentioned this subject to my mother, she had decided opinions on both the ex-wives that I referred to. She would not even consider that the men might have been at fault, but obviously she knew the men well as close relatives. My grandmother had a female cousin who was married and divorced four times... rather amazing in the early 1900's. Ethel was a trip! My grandmother referred to her as a "floozie". On the census she listed herself as single or widowed, and only the last one did she indicate divorced. She also listed herself as much younger than she really was, and the older she got the bigger the lie. She smoked cigars and drank with the men after dinner, and told more than her share of bawdy jokes. Grandma also said she was "disgraceful". She ran a boarding house and my great uncle lived there for a time in his very early 20's, until his mother realized that it was Ethel he was renting from. She went into a rage and he moved out. For the heck of it, I sure wish I had met Ethel. Jo ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I found the post about the divorces interesting. I have the same situation in our family. She is listed as a widow yet I have his death certificate from years later. Puzzled me for a while until I realized that nothing on the census ever makes sense. Sandra Oklahoma ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hi all I am working on family census records and I have found a few occasions where this has occurred and I find it interesting. A couple are divorced and I find both of them in the census records. He is listed as Divorced, but when I find ex-wife with the children, she is listed as Widowed. Was it really so shameful that they lied? I am not talking ancient history here, I am talking censuses in the early 1900's. A cousin of my grandmother's is listed this way, as is my grandfather's brother. Both were very much living, but the ex-wives claimed they were widowed. I do know that many times the children never saw their father or his side of the family again. My mother's cousins were young adults the evening they knocked on the door and asked to speak to Harry Hastings. When my grandfather went to the door, the 2 young men introduced themselves as his brother Chet's sons, they had not seen their father in over 15 years. I remember when I got my divorce my in-laws were terribly distressed because "what were they going to tell their friends?" Personally, I thought they should tell them the truth. <<grin>> That was in 1976. Anyway - I am curious as to whether others have found this situation or is my family a bit strange? LOL Jo ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Jo, yes, this was the case for many people I have found on the censuses. In order to appear more respectable, the women (especially...and more so than men that I have found) reported themselves as widowed rather than divorced. Remember this was 100 or so years ago and women were not as liberated as we have become in the last 30 years. Also it might have been a bit of a protection thing for them. It was a sad thing to be a widow, but a shameful thing to be a divorcee. I was divorced in 1974 and even then it was considered a bit shameful. Women didn't want me (a brazen hussy, I suppose!) around their husbands. So nope, its not just your family! ----- Original Message ----- From: <MNGenLdy@aol.com> To: <MNHennep-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 2:49 PM Subject: [MNHennep] Divorces & census records > Hi all > > I am working on family census records and I have found a few occasions > where > this has occurred and I find it interesting. > > A couple are divorced and I find both of them in the census records. He > is > listed as Divorced, but when I find ex-wife with the children, she is > listed > as Widowed. > > Was it really so shameful that they lied? I am not talking ancient > history > here, I am talking censuses in the early 1900's. > A cousin of my grandmother's is listed this way, as is my grandfather's > brother. Both were very much living, but the ex-wives claimed they were > widowed. > I do know that many times the children never saw their father or his side > of > the family again. My mother's cousins were young adults the evening they > knocked on the door and asked to speak to Harry Hastings. When my > grandfather > went to the door, the 2 young men introduced themselves as his brother > Chet's > sons, they had not seen their father in over 15 years. > > I remember when I got my divorce my in-laws were terribly distressed > because > "what were they going to tell their friends?" Personally, I thought they > should tell them the truth. <<grin>> That was in 1976. > > Anyway - I am curious as to whether others have found this situation or > is > my family a bit strange? LOL > > Jo > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Most of the protective cleaning programs, CCleaner that I use definitely does, show all the cookies accumulated that day. I allow all sites to set a cookie and then remove them at night (except for the ones I want to keep). You can make a decision about which ones you want to keep in the cleaning programs. They are pretty self-explanatory by name. I don't want to have to re-register at a lot of places, so cookies help make it easier for me to return to such websites. Those are the ones I keep. I might still need to confirm a login name at those websites, but they know it is me returning and that's fine with me. Some sites (Ancestry is one I believe) tell you right up front that cookies must be set. Elaine Hello CeceliaN On Thursday, April 5, 2007, you wrote > Elaine > > How do you know what cookies are the ones you > want to keep? (Ancestry, etc.) > > Jeanne

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