The b. in a city directory usually means that someone is a boarder (not owner) at that address. If it is an r., they reside/own the property. Mary Mary Bakeman mbakeman@parkbooks.com Park Genealogical Books http://www.parkbooks.com

Claudia Schuman wrote: > Just an FYI > > If your local library subscribes to the Heritage Quest Databases, and most > larger libraries do now, you can access the HQ databases at home through > your local library using your library card no matter where you live. Heritage Quest has advantages and disadvantages over census databases at Ancestry.com. Heritage Quest is not an every name index; it is a head of household index. Single individuals living as boarders or roomers are indexed as heads of households. So the disadvantage is the need to know head of household. I think an advantage is that a Heritage Quest search produces fewer and more specific results. I also like the Advanced Search format at Heritage Quest. Many of us have problems with names being spelled in a variety of ways. When I was looking for Fitzgeralds in a couple of Ohio counties, I just entered only the census year - say 1860 - the county, and born in Ireland. The results list of all heads of households born in Ireland was in alphabetical order so Fitzgerald, Fittsgerald, Fitzchild were all grouped near each other. This really saved a lot of time (not to mention I hadn't even imagined Fitzgerald misspelled as Fitzchild.). The Heritage Quest book search includes some city directories for Minneapolis and St. Paul. I am a fan of these Heritage Quest databases - its great that the libraries have added them. Shawne FitzGerald Minneapolis

Donelly, The "b" stands for business The "com" stands for Compositor I'm not sure about the "Taibune". I thought maybe it was a typo in the directory and meant Tribune. Will see if I can find a business listing called Taibune......storm coming have to get off computer........more later. Claudia ----- Original Message ----- From: <DONELLYW@aol.com> To: <mnhennep@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [MNHennep] Claudia - 1886 Minneapolis Directory Thanks, Claudia, for the info you found. Can you tell me what some of the abbreviations might stand for? b. (in front of the address "259 6th Ave N") com Taibune r. (437 7th Av L) Got any ideas? Thanks, Donelly In a message dated 9/20/2007 6:30:12 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, schumanc@comcast.net writes: Donelly, I didn't find a Daniel Mahoney in the 1886 Mpls City directory, but there were two of them listed in the 1882-83 directory: Mahoney, Daniel, lab. b. 259 6th Ave N. " Daniel J., com Taibune r. 437 7th Av L. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Claudia. Your knowledge is invaluable. Much obliged. Tor in Nwy p.s Is there a website with more info on Curtiss College? Hilsen Tor Graven +47 918 54 158 "graven16@online.no" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Claudia Schuman" <schumanc@comcast.net> To: <mnhennep@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 12:38 AM Subject: Re: [MNHennep] Curtiss College.. have a clou? > Tor, > > CC Curtiss was a Business College in Minneapolis, located on Nicolett and > 5th Street in Minneapolis. This is from the Minneapolis city directory > for > 1886-87. > > Claudia Schuman > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tor Graven" <graven16@online.no> > To: <MNHENNEP@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 1:44 PM > Subject: [MNHennep] Curtiss College.. have a clou? > > > Good evening listers. > Trying to find CC. Louise Graven seems to have attended that school in > 1884-86. Appreciate any feedback on this issue. > Thanks for the hint about Sussman photographers. > Tor in Nwy. > > Hilsen(nwgn for Best regards, greetings) > Tor Graven > +47 918 54 158 > "graven16@online.no" > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thanks, Claudia, for the info you found. Can you tell me what some of the abbreviations might stand for? b. (in front of the address "259 6th Ave N") com Taibune r. (437 7th Av L) Got any ideas? Thanks, Donelly In a message dated 9/20/2007 6:30:12 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, schumanc@comcast.net writes: Donelly, I didn't find a Daniel Mahoney in the 1886 Mpls City directory, but there were two of them listed in the 1882-83 directory: Mahoney, Daniel, lab. b. 259 6th Ave N. " Daniel J., com Taibune r. 437 7th Av L. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Just an FYI If your local library subscribes to the Heritage Quest Databases, and most larger libraries do now, you can access the HQ databases at home through your local library using your library card no matter where you live. If you live in Hennepin County go to the main page of the Hennepin County Library website at http://www.hclib.org/pub/ and click on the link for "Databases A-Z". The databases are listed alphabetically, scroll down to HERITAGE QUEST, click on it and in the box just put in the bar code numbers on the back of your library card. If you don't have a library card....go get one!! Claudia Schuman Claudia Schuman

Tor, You might try writing to the the Hennepin County History Museum http://hennepinhistory.org/default.aspx or doing a search on the Minnesota History Center website http://www.mnhs.org/index.htm I found a photo of the "Minneapolis Business College" on the Visual Resources Database. It was located at 5th & Nicollet in 1900, but probably the same building. Claudia Schuman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tor Graven" <graven16@online.no> To: <mnhennep@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 6:22 AM Subject: Re: [MNHennep] Curtiss College.. have a clou? Thanks Claudia. Your knowledge is invaluable. Much obliged. Tor in Nwy p.s Is there a website with more info on Curtiss College? Hilsen Tor Graven +47 918 54 158 "graven16@online.no" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Claudia Schuman" <schumanc@comcast.net> To: <mnhennep@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 12:38 AM Subject: Re: [MNHennep] Curtiss College.. have a clou? > Tor, > > CC Curtiss was a Business College in Minneapolis, located on Nicolett and > 5th Street in Minneapolis. This is from the Minneapolis city directory > for > 1886-87. > > Claudia Schuman > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tor Graven" <graven16@online.no> > To: <MNHENNEP@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 1:44 PM > Subject: [MNHennep] Curtiss College.. have a clou? > > > Good evening listers. > Trying to find CC. Louise Graven seems to have attended that school in > 1884-86. Appreciate any feedback on this issue. > Thanks for the hint about Sussman photographers. > Tor in Nwy. > > Hilsen(nwgn for Best regards, greetings) > Tor Graven > +47 918 54 158 > "graven16@online.no" > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Donelly, I didn't find a Daniel Mahoney in the 1886 Mpls City directory, but there were two of them listed in the 1882-83 directory: Mahoney, Daniel, lab. b. 259 6th Ave N. " Daniel J., com Taibune r. 437 7th Av L. This isn't proof he's your relative, but the 1885 Census for Minnesota is available online on http://kinsource.com/index.htm for a small subscription fee and you might find his parents since he wasn't born until 1886. Hope this helps, Claudia Schuman ----- Original Message ----- From: <DONELLYW@aol.com> To: <mnhennep@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 11:35 PM Subject: [MNHennep] Claudia - 1886 Minneapolis Directory HI Claudia! I'm trying to find my gggrandfather and family in Minnesota in 1886. My great grandfather, Patrick Francis Mahoney, was born there. His parents were Daniel Mahon(e)y and Jane Turns; all of their other children were born in Muskegon County, Michigan, and Jane and children show up in 1890 census there. Any help finding them in Minnesota would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Donelly ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HI Claudia! I'm trying to find my gggrandfather and family in Minnesota in 1886. My great grandfather, Patrick Francis Mahoney, was born there. His parents were Daniel Mahon(e)y and Jane Turns; all of their other children were born in Muskegon County, Michigan, and Jane and children show up in 1890 census there. Any help finding them in Minnesota would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Donelly ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Good evening listers. Trying to find CC. Louise Graven seems to have attended that school in 1884-86. Appreciate any feedback on this issue. Thanks for the hint about Sussman photographers. Tor in Nwy. Hilsen(nwgn for Best regards, greetings) Tor Graven +47 918 54 158 "graven16@online.no"

Hi Linda, Didn't find a Harriet Butler in the 1886 Minneapolis City Directory. There's an HC Butler, mnfg of of mill picks, 249 6th Ave S., r. 8th cor 16th av S. Possibly her father? Etta is sometimes a nickname for Harriett, but there wasn't an Etta listed either. I can send you the page with all the Butlers if you'd like it. Claudia Schuman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda McDermott" <lmcdermott@copper.net> To: <mnhennep@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [MNHennep] Butler, Harriett/Joseph? Claudia - Does the 1886 Minneapolis directory have a Harriett Butler, daughter of Harriett and Henry Butler? Thank you. Linda ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tor, CC Curtiss was a Business College in Minneapolis, located on Nicolett and 5th Street in Minneapolis. This is from the Minneapolis city directory for 1886-87. Claudia Schuman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tor Graven" <graven16@online.no> To: <MNHENNEP@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 1:44 PM Subject: [MNHennep] Curtiss College.. have a clou? Good evening listers. Trying to find CC. Louise Graven seems to have attended that school in 1884-86. Appreciate any feedback on this issue. Thanks for the hint about Sussman photographers. Tor in Nwy. Hilsen(nwgn for Best regards, greetings) Tor Graven +47 918 54 158 "graven16@online.no" ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That would be great. She is also listed as "Hattie" in another census. The daughter was born either in 1883 or 1886 in Minn., and she had a son, Laurence, born 22 Apr 1909 in Minneapolis...shows her husband as Joseph Butler. What are the chances of marrying someone with your own maiden name? What I can't find also, is the birth certificate for Laurence in 1909. I would like the page of all the Butlers from that Directory if you would be so kind. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: Claudia Schuman To: mnhennep@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [MNHennep] Butler, Harriett/Joseph? Hi Linda, Didn't find a Harriet Butler in the 1886 Minneapolis City Directory. There's an HC Butler, mnfg of of mill picks, 249 6th Ave S., r. 8th cor 16th av S. Possibly her father? Etta is sometimes a nickname for Harriett, but there wasn't an Etta listed either. I can send you the page with all the Butlers if you'd like it. Claudia Schuman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda McDermott" <lmcdermott@copper.net> To: <mnhennep@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [MNHennep] Butler, Harriett/Joseph? Claudia - Does the 1886 Minneapolis directory have a Harriett Butler, daughter of Harriett and Henry Butler? Thank you. Linda ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Claudia - Does the 1886 Minneapolis directory have a Harriett Butler, daughter of Harriett and Henry Butler? Thank you. Linda ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 9/9/2007 10:18:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time, wildwind@bbtel.com writes: Where is St. Paul Co.? I know we've established that Summit Ave. is in St. Paul. St. Paul is in Ramsey County; there is no St. Paul County in Minnesota. Shirley Minneapolis ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Patricia - could you send me a separate email whether you can look up births or not - 1909 in particular? Thank you. Linda lmcdermott@copper.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Patricia Strot To: mnhennep@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:19 AM Subject: Re: [MNHennep] Lost relative, directory lookup Tor, I am a volunteer for directory lookups on the MNHennep site. I will be doing some research later this week and would be happy to look for the Sussman business in the directory. I did find this information on the Minnesota Historical Society site: http://www.mnhs.org/people/photographers/S.htm The list is in alphabetical order with the Sussmans near the bottom. Let me know if you want the lookup in the directory. Regards, Patricia Corwin Strot Forest Lake, MN Tor Graven <graven16@online.no> wrote: Good afternoon, listers. Another try. I deny to think nobody out there could give me a hint on Sussman photographere. Could anyone tell me during what period SP were in business? May be they still are? Their location was 309 Nicollet Ave, MSP. I'm trying to find a lost relative. My only lead is a picture taken by SP after 1880. Thanks. Tor in Nwy Hilsen Tor Graven +47 918 54 158 "graven16@online.no" ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good afternoon, listers. Another try. I deny to think nobody out there could give me a hint on Sussman photographere. Could anyone tell me during what period SP were in business? May be they still are? Their location was 309 Nicollet Ave, MSP. I'm trying to find a lost relative. My only lead is a picture taken by SP after 1880. Thanks. Tor in Nwy Hilsen Tor Graven +47 918 54 158 "graven16@online.no"

Patricia and Kathy, Thanks to the both of you for your offers. I would be interested in seeing a current day photo of the homes as your time permits. I do not foresee me being able to make the trip anytime soon so the pictures would be most interesting. Thanks in advance, Kenneth Schmid http://schmidgenealogy.homestead.com/Schmid.html "Connecting Great Relatives-1 Person at a time" > All outbound mail is virus scanned for your protection ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Strot" <strot003@yahoo.com> To: <mnhennep@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [MNHennep] [MINNESOTA] Schiffman/ MacLeod > If you don't find a picture of the home, let me know. I live very close > and go to St. Paul a couple times a month. I could drive by the address > and take a digital photo for you then email it to you offline to your > email address. > > Patricia Corwin Strot > > Kathy Hines <khines1@qwest.net> wrote: Chances are good that the Summit > Ave homes still exist. Those are > remarkable homes that cost a pretty penny and they were built on a hill or > "cliff" overlooking St Paul. I doubt too many of those have been torn > down > over the years. I don't know about the Jackson St building though. > > You might want to try the Photo and Art Archives from the MN History > Center. > Maybe you can find something interest on MacLeod or Summit Ave there. > http://collections.mnhs.org/visualresources/search.cfm?bhcp=1 > > Kathy > > www.Kiva.org - loans that change lives. Change the world one loan at a > time. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kenny & Lisa" > To: ; ; > > Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 9:31 PM > Subject: [MINNESOTA] Schiffman/ MacLeod > > >> Hello list, >> Have several questions that perhaps someone can clarify, and/ or offer >> some guidance. >> My names of interest are James MacLeod b. abt 1870, d. 7/15/1912 in >> Hennepin Co. He was an architect and had lived at 485 Summit Ave, a house >> which he drafted and resided in. Does this home still exist? >> Where is St. Paul Co.? >> Other names are Rudolph Schiffman b. 8/1845 d. 12/1926. He supposedly >> lived at 495 Summit Ave from about 1893 until the early 1900's. Does this >> home still exist? Rudolph Schiffman was a medicine manufacturer with a >> plant supposedly at 369 Jackson St. Would these buildings still stand >> today? Story has it that he moved his medicine manufacturing to >> California >> and Berlin in the early 1900's. Anyone with any knowledge of either the >> MacLeod's or Schiffman's- I would greatly appreciate in hearing from >> you. >> Additionally, anyone that can provide knowledge of these areas would be >> helpful also. >> Thanks in advance, >> Kenny Schmid in KY >> http://schmidgenealogy.homestead.com/Schmid.html >> "Connecting Great Relatives-1 Person at a time" >> >> > All outbound mail is virus scanned for your protection >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MINNESOTA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's > on, when. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thor, I found the following on Sussman Photographers on this website: http://www.mnhs.org/people/photographers/S.htm Sussman, Adolph Gender: Male Locations: Address: 10 South Third, Minneapolis, Minnesota Dates of operation: 1909 Decades Worked in Minnesota: 1900s Sussman, Joseph I. Gender: Male Studio: Sussman Studio Locations: Address: 309 Nicollet Avenue, Minneapolis, Minnesota Dates of operation: 1902-1907 Address: 305 Nicollet Avenue, Minneapolis, Minnesota Dates of operation: 1908-1915 Decades Worked in Minnesota: 1900s; 1910s ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tor Graven" <graven16@online.no> To: <MNHENNEP@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:05 AM Subject: [MNHennep] Lost relative, directory lookup Good afternoon, listers. Another try. I deny to think nobody out there could give me a hint on Sussman photographere. Could anyone tell me during what period SP were in business? May be they still are? Their location was 309 Nicollet Ave, MSP. I'm trying to find a lost relative. My only lead is a picture taken by SP after 1880. Thanks. Tor in Nwy Hilsen Tor Graven +47 918 54 158 "graven16@online.no" ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tor, I am a volunteer for directory lookups on the MNHennep site. I will be doing some research later this week and would be happy to look for the Sussman business in the directory. I did find this information on the Minnesota Historical Society site: http://www.mnhs.org/people/photographers/S.htm The list is in alphabetical order with the Sussmans near the bottom. Let me know if you want the lookup in the directory. Regards, Patricia Corwin Strot Forest Lake, MN Tor Graven <graven16@online.no> wrote: Good afternoon, listers. Another try. I deny to think nobody out there could give me a hint on Sussman photographere. Could anyone tell me during what period SP were in business? May be they still are? Their location was 309 Nicollet Ave, MSP. I'm trying to find a lost relative. My only lead is a picture taken by SP after 1880. Thanks. Tor in Nwy Hilsen Tor Graven +47 918 54 158 "graven16@online.no" ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MNHENNEP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.