Well, I may as well add my two cents on the subject of the death indexes. You have to be very creative when using that index. I've found the best way to find someone --if you don't find their name as you think it should be --is to just search by the last name. I know it can be a horrendous search if you have a common name, but I've found that some times women are not listed with just their first name i.e. Elizabeth Johnson, but might be found as Mrs. Elizabeth Johnson. That index is going to look for the first letter. This has happened to me so many times. Same problem with men. Sometimes they're listed with just their initials. Then of course you have to use every spelling variation you can think of because of misspells, or because the transcriber read it wrong. Using the soundex helps in that case. Claudia Schuman - Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnhennep/ http://hennbios.tripod.com/index.htm http://fdlbios.tripod.com/index.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnscott/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 10:34 PM Subject: [MNHENNEP] Re MN death certificates > In a message dated 6/17/03 8:07:59 PM Central Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > << The > information is there only if it was given by someone. Print it out. If you > don't see on the web site, you won't see it on the official death > certifcate, and > it won't cost you anything. > Bev Carlson > Minneapolis MN >> > > > Wrong. In the later years the index included that information, but in the > earlier years it did not. Therefore on some certificates the parents names, > names of spouses, birth dates and places, etc can be on the original certificate, > but not show up in the index because the index for those years did not show > it. > > I have broken several walls on collateral families by picking up death certs > from the Historical Society. > > I have also found people NOT listed in the index on line that I KNOW have > died in MN because their children have told me so, or because I have copies of > their obits given me by members of their families. > > Always remember, the information on a death certificate is only as accurate > as the knowledge of the informant. And that the information on any web index > is only as accurate as the transcriber, who are human and fallible. > > The best thing about the MN Death Index is that the people on the other end > of the web site are very nice helpful people who will make corrections to > errors found, who respond to all notes regarding those errors and are very gracious > dedicated people. > > Also remember that they can and will correct errors that THEY have made, but > if the error is on the original index or the original document it will be left > as is, because it is not their error. Only the state vital statistics > department can make any changes on those documents. > > Annie in Minnesota > >

In a message dated 6/17/03 10:15:54 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I am wondering if someone over there would be kind and locate an obit for > Sally F. Melody. > > She died on 21 August 1999 in Bloomington. I would appreciate the obit > scanned or whatever. > Gary You can look it up and print it out from the obituary archives at the Star Tribune. They are online beginning in 1997 I believe. For whatever reason I am having trouble accessing it myself tonight so I can't give you the exact detail. Go to <A HREF="www.startribune.com">www.startribune.com</A> On the left side scroll down to find obituaries - you may have to first go to the metro section - I am not 100% certain. But it is on the website and really easy to use. Jo

Re MN death certificates. Simply go to the MHS Death certificate index. Put the name in and click okay. If the person died in Minnesota the name will come up. For a shorter search put in the death date or other requestion information. I have found the mothers maiden name, county of birth and birth dates. The information is there only if it was given by someone. Print it out. If you don't see on the web site, you won't see it on the official death certifcate, and it won't cost you anything. Bev Carlson Minneapolis MN Researching, Carlson, Alvig, Arbus, Swatez, Skillings, Krank,Buchholz to name a few.

Hi Bev, Your statements are only partially correct. When the health department started entering information, they did not complete the field "mother's maiden name". Later, after MANY death certs had already become part of the database, the field was filled in. This means many death certs WILL have that information, despite the index showing they don't. Unfortunately, NOT all the people who died in Minnesota appear on the index. And those that do may contain errors, either on the original document or in the transcription process. Some death certificates were simply missed. Some have such terrible penmanship, the transcriber couldn't begin to guess the correct spelling of the decedent's name. But more importantly, the index tells only part of the story. If you want to climb your family tree, you'll want to step on complete branches. (My web site details the information that may be found on a death certificate.) If saving money is an issue, I'd get certificates for my direct line and obits for the direct and collateral lines. However, it's been my experience that there are often wonderful surprises waiting to be discovered on the most unlikely death certificates. Just another limb, Laura search for fallen leaves at http://home.attbi.com/~branchingout ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 8:07 PM Subject: [MNHENNEP] Re: MNHENNEP-D Digest V03 #103 Re MN death certificates. Simply go to the MHS Death certificate index. Put the name in and click okay. If the person died in Minnesota the name will come up... I have found the mothers maiden name, county of birth and birth dates. The information is there only if it was given by someone. Print it out. If you don't see on the web site, you won't see it on the official death certifcate, and it won't cost you anything. Bev

Hi folks, I am wondering if someone over there would be kind and locate an obit for Sally F. Melody. She died on 21 August 1999 in Bloomington. I would appreciate the obit scanned or whatever. Thankyou, Gary

Gena, I think it would be more appropriate for you to write directly to Laura and not send requests and comments through the lists. Thank you! Claudia Schuman - Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnhennep/ http://hennbios.tripod.com/index.htm http://fdlbios.tripod.com/index.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnscott/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Regena Lally" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [MNHENNEP] Hennepin County deaths > Laura, I am trying to get the copies of several records in MN. I contacted > Sandy and asked her to do it and she agreed. However I don't have 6 months > or more to wait and I have heard that it takes her that long or more. If you > are willing to get a death cert for me (I have date) and 2 obits, I would > appreciate it. Let me know and I will cancel with her. > > Gena > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Branching Out" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 4:40 AM > Subject: Re: [MNHENNEP] Hennepin County deaths > > > > yes.....................? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Regena Lally > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 10:57 PM > > Subject: Re: [MNHENNEP] Hennepin County deaths > > > > > > Laura, please contact me... > > Gena > > [email protected] > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Branching Out" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 8:10 AM > > Subject: Re: [MNHENNEP] Hennepin County deaths > > > > > > > I don't want to step on anyone's toes > > > > > > > >

I apologize, I did not realize I had done so. My apologizes to everyone Gena ----- Original Message ----- From: "Claudia" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [MNHENNEP] Hennepin County deaths > Gena, > > I think it would be more appropriate for you to write directly to Laura and > not send requests and comments through the lists. >

Laura, I am trying to get the copies of several records in MN. I contacted Sandy and asked her to do it and she agreed. However I don't have 6 months or more to wait and I have heard that it takes her that long or more. If you are willing to get a death cert for me (I have date) and 2 obits, I would appreciate it. Let me know and I will cancel with her. Gena ----- Original Message ----- From: "Branching Out" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 4:40 AM Subject: Re: [MNHENNEP] Hennepin County deaths > yes.....................? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Regena Lally > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 10:57 PM > Subject: Re: [MNHENNEP] Hennepin County deaths > > > Laura, please contact me... > Gena > [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Branching Out" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 8:10 AM > Subject: Re: [MNHENNEP] Hennepin County deaths > > > > I don't want to step on anyone's toes > > >

yes.....................? ----- Original Message ----- From: Regena Lally To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [MNHENNEP] Hennepin County deaths Laura, please contact me... Gena [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Branching Out" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 8:10 AM Subject: Re: [MNHENNEP] Hennepin County deaths > I don't want to step on anyone's toes

Thanks to all for your suggestions - will let you know what I find. :) Star Ostgard Rochester, MN I have my own little world, but it's okay� they know me there. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

Laura, please contact me... Gena [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Branching Out" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 8:10 AM Subject: Re: [MNHENNEP] Hennepin County deaths > I don't want to step on anyone's toes

Hi Gene, You sent me something off list but nothing in the body of the e-mail and no attachment. I also wasn't able to do a "reply"! It was something about Research Guidance. Maybe try sending again? Sorry to have to use the list, but don't have your address in my address book. Thanks! Claudia Schuman - Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnhennep/ http://hennbios.tripod.com/index.htm http://fdlbios.tripod.com/index.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnscott/index.htm

I would try St. Anthony's Cemetery, Minneapolis - if she was living in Minneapolis when she became a widow, that's where her husband would be most likely buried. Their records are kept at the office St. Mary's Cemetery, 4403 Chicago Avenue Minneapolis, MN 55427 612-822-0907. You should ask about both locations. ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOANNE MACK" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 5:18 PM Subject: [MNHENNEP] Lamb, John & Rosanna- Minneapolis > This is my first posting to the list. > I have found my GG-grandmother Rosanna LAMB on the 1880 Minneapolis, census. age 51, Widow ( of John) She was keeping house for my then unmarried G-grandmother & G-uncle. > I'm looking for a death & burial record for her. She was an Irish Roman Catholic...any suggestions? > Any help greatly appreciated. > Joanne Mack,Salem, Oregon >

The newspaper at that time was the Minneapolis Star. Now they are the Minneapolis Star and Tribune. Good luck in your hunting. They usually are pretty helpful. Micki in Minnesota. >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [MNHENNEP] Lookups >Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:48:10 EDT > >What I am looking for is the obit of my husbands grandfather. He died in >the >Juvenile Ward of the Hennepin County Jail June 20, 1940. I was wondering >if >the obit gave more details. I know he was a Deputy Sheriff for Hennepin >County. If I knew what newspapers and there address that were in print at >that >time and still exist I could write them. > >Jan > _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

In a message dated 6/13/03 11:49:01 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << If I knew what newspapers and there address that were in print at that time and still exist I could write them. >> Your best bet wold be the Minneapolis Public Library. Annie in Minnesota

In a message dated 6/13/03 11:49:01 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > What I am looking for is the obit of my husbands grandfather. He died in > the > Juvenile Ward of the Hennepin County Jail June 20, 1940. I was wondering if > > the obit gave more details. I know he was a Deputy Sheriff for Hennepin > County. If I knew what newspapers and there address that were in print at > that > time and still exist I could write them. Jan The newspaper of the time would have been the Minneapolis Tribune and/or the Minneapolis Star, I believe. The Trib was traditionally the morning paper (and the Sunday paper) and the Star was evening. Eventually they combined and are now the Star Tribune. BUT... the newspaper office does not maintain an archive of newspapers, they are all kept at the Minnesota History Center. they have all news papers published in Minnesota, most from the very first publication, on microfilm. You should be able to contact them and ask them to make a copy of the obituary for a small fee. Jo Hogle

Hi Joanne, I didn't see any good possibilities on the death index for Rosanna. Have you found obituaries for the people with whom she was living? She might be mentioned as either predeceasing or surviving them. Either way it would narrow your search. It's possible she died before 1908 when death certificates were the "norm". Have you checked into the death register for 1899 or the death cards from 1900 to 1907? There is information about both on my web site (address below). Let me know if I can be of help. Just another limb, Laura search for fallen leaves at http://home.attbi.com/~branchingout ----- Original Message ----- From: JOANNE MACK To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 5:18 PM Subject: [MNHENNEP] Lamb, John & Rosanna- Minneapolis This is my first posting to the list. I have found my GG-grandmother Rosanna LAMB on the 1880 Minneapolis, census. age 51, Widow ( of John) She was keeping house for my then unmarried G-grandmother & G-uncle. I'm looking for a death & burial record for her. She was an Irish Roman Catholic...any suggestions? Any help greatly appreciated. Joanne Mack,Salem, Oregon

This is my first posting to the list. I have found my GG-grandmother Rosanna LAMB on the 1880 Minneapolis, census. age 51, Widow ( of John) She was keeping house for my then unmarried G-grandmother & G-uncle. I'm looking for a death & burial record for her. She was an Irish Roman Catholic...any suggestions? Any help greatly appreciated. Joanne Mack,Salem, Oregon

What I am looking for is the obit of my husbands grandfather. He died in the Juvenile Ward of the Hennepin County Jail June 20, 1940. I was wondering if the obit gave more details. I know he was a Deputy Sheriff for Hennepin County. If I knew what newspapers and there address that were in print at that time and still exist I could write them. Jan

In a message dated 6/12/03 8:20:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > People need to realize she does this on a volunteer > basis and there might be a wait. The Historical Society does have the > service available as well, so people can choose that option. I believe there > is quite a wait for this too, and the cost might be a bit more. I have waited as long as 8 months from several historical societies across the US for information. Few are this long- but I have learned I have to be patient and I will get it eventually. I am just grateful when a volunteer will help me out for a minimum of the cost and Sandy also will look up obituaries and the Historical Society doesn't offer that. Some of those obituaries are quite informative and give information I can't get anywhere else.