Judy, Have you tried printing the document in Landscape instead of Portrait? Claudia Schuman - Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnhennep/ http://hennbios.tripod.com/index.htm http://fdlbios.tripod.com/index.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnscott/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Freund" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 5:57 PM Subject: [MNHENNEP] Printing Minnesota Data > > When I print data from Ancestry specifically the MN Cemetery Inscription > Index http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/search/3775.htm?rc=locale%7E&us=0 > the entire page does not print, usually letters on the right margin and > sometimes the left margin are missing. I do click on Printer friendly. I > would prefer to copy and paste into a Word document so I can print the > results double sided but at this point I would be happy if I could just > print the information and have all the data included. > > I am asking the question here because it is one of the most helpful mailing > lists. > Judy > >

Appreciated the information of how the Swedish neighborhoods used to be as my relatives were also a part of it. One of my great uncles was GUSTAF (Gust) ALLEN. He supposedly transcribed Swedish Hymns to English, and also wrote some. How do I find out about it. I have already tried several sources. Karolyn

Katherine, Jo Hogle has given you a great description of the area your family lived and you can get a bit of a visual idea of what the area looked like too if you go to the MN History Center web site and the "Visual Resources Database". Just type in CAMDEN in the search box and leave everything else blank. There are several pictures of the neighborhoods and some of the homes during that time frame. Here's the address: http://collections.mnhs.org/visualresources/ Also, the Minneapolis Public Library has a database of photographs to search at http://www.mplib.org/dbtw-wpd/phosrc.htm Again, just put in the word CAMDEN, nothing else and several pictures from that area come up. You also might want to join the Hennepin County Roots-L mailing list as well. It's more specific to Minneapolis. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnhennep/ Claudia Schuman - Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnhennep/ http://hennbios.tripod.com/index.htm http://fdlbios.tripod.com/index.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnscott/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 3:25 PM Subject: [MNHENNEP] North Minneapolis Swedes > Dear Hennepin County List, > > I am completely new to this list, and to research in the Minneapolis area. I > am wondering about what an area of Minneapolis is called, and what the area > is like now. My husband's Swedish ggggrandmother Carrie ANDERSON and her > daughter Carrie EVENSTA (married to a Norwegian) lived in an area north of downtown > Minneapolis. It was on the west side of the Mississippi River. Her address > was 606 33rd Avenue North/3307 North 6th Street. This is north of Fairview Park > and west of I-94. According to the 1900 census, this area was populated > with folks working at many sawmill-related occupations. Could anyone tell me > anything more about this neighborhood? What is it like now? Does it have a > name? Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Thank you very much. > > Sincerely, > Katherine > Bellingham, WA >

In a message dated 8/26/2003 3:26:35 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: It was on the west side of the Mississippi River. Her address was 606 33rd Avenue North/3307 North 6th Street. This is north of Fairview Park and west of I-94. According to the 1900 census, this area was populated with folks working at many sawmill-related occupations. Could anyone tell me anything more about this neighborhood? What is it like now? Does it have a name? Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Thank you very much. Hi Katherine I believe that would be in the area referred to as the "Camden" neighborhood as it is north of Lowry. There is a little area at the corner of Lyndale and Lowry, which would be just a few blocks away, that has always been a little business area. When I was growing up it had the corner store (groceries) and a drug store, and I believe a hardware store. Those same shops had been there when my grandfather was growing up too as he said he would stop at the durgstore for water when he was walking home from his job near the river. The houses in the area were all built around 1880 - 1910. Further north on Lyndale, at about 35th, there was another similar little corner grocery store and a barber shop. The business area of Camden was the area around 42nd and Lyndale, from about 40th down to about 44th and a block or two off Lyndale on 42nd. A bank, and the usual business shops were there. Lyndale Ave. and Lowry Ave. are the main arteries in the area with the next main road to the east being Washington Ave. It was certainly a quiet residential area for many years. Now it is not as well maintained and unfortunately the area has some problems with drugs and street gangs now. There were many Swedes in that area, my family among them. And many of them did work in the sawmills or in the lumber camps owned by the sawmills. The river was close by and the immigrants could easily walk down to their jobs on the river. The Lutheran churches in the area were mostly Swedish congregations, most holding their services in Swedish. If a church was English speaking they would post that information. My own family church, which is down Lowry on the corner of Oliver Ave N, was named Christ English Lutheran Church because the services were in English - however they held one service that was Swedish once a month. Interestingly, when a new pastor arrived and he didn't speak Swedish, the special service became a monthly German service as that was what he spoke. Imagine the surprise of the Swedes that didn't get that message. LOL Unfortunately most of those small Swedish congregations are no longer in existence. The churches combined over the years with others in the area as transportation and English made it easier to have a larger congregation and church building. I think about our congregation and how it evolved. But the old charter member names were Swedish and Norwegian and later, German. The area was full of immigrants that worked in the sawmills, at the lumber camps, and in the mill-works that were all nearby. Across the river in "Northeast" Minneapolis, affectionately referred to as "Nordeast", was the slavic community, Polish, Czech,Russian,Bohemian and the others. South of Lowry, closer to Broadway were more a true mix of families, many non-immigrant families of the area. Further south, below Broadway, were the large homes of those that were more financially comfortable. Huge beautiful homes with many bedrooms, wraparound porches and sometimes even a carriage house out back. Those large old homes are long gone, with just a few left that have been turned into apartments. I am only 53 years old so I can not remember how it was in 1900, but the stories from my father and my grandfather, and some of the wonderful old folks of my childhood at church, have given me a fondness and love for that old area. And nothing changed for many years, many of the old stores are still there, put to different use now, but still there. Hope I have not bored you. You caught me at a time when it feels good to share the stories and describe to a stranger the familiar neighborhoods of my childhood. Jo

Yes but my HP continued to print in Portrait. I will try again since it seems to work for others. Thank You! Judy -----Original Message----- From: Claudia [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MNHENNEP] Printing Minnesota Data Judy, Have you tried printing the document in Landscape instead of Portrait? Claudia Schuman - Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnhennep/ http://hennbios.tripod.com/index.htm http://fdlbios.tripod.com/index.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnscott/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Freund" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 5:57 PM Subject: [MNHENNEP] Printing Minnesota Data > > When I print data from Ancestry specifically the MN Cemetery Inscription > Index http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/search/3775.htm?rc=locale%7E&us=0 > the entire page does not print, usually letters on the right margin and > sometimes the left margin are missing. I do click on Printer friendly. I > would prefer to copy and paste into a Word document so I can print the > results double sided but at this point I would be happy if I could just > print the information and have all the data included. > > I am asking the question here because it is one of the most helpful mailing > lists. > Judy > >

Dear Hennepin County List, I am completely new to this list, and to research in the Minneapolis area. I am wondering about what an area of Minneapolis is called, and what the area is like now. My husband's Swedish ggggrandmother Carrie ANDERSON and her daughter Carrie EVENSTA (married to a Norwegian) lived in an area north of downtown Minneapolis. It was on the west side of the Mississippi River. Her address was 606 33rd Avenue North/3307 North 6th Street. This is north of Fairview Park and west of I-94. According to the 1900 census, this area was populated with folks working at many sawmill-related occupations. Could anyone tell me anything more about this neighborhood? What is it like now? Does it have a name? Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Thank you very much. Sincerely, Katherine Bellingham, WA

When I print data from Ancestry specifically the MN Cemetery Inscription Index http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/search/3775.htm?rc=locale%7E&us=0 the entire page does not print, usually letters on the right margin and sometimes the left margin are missing. I do click on Printer friendly. I would prefer to copy and paste into a Word document so I can print the results double sided but at this point I would be happy if I could just print the information and have all the data included. I am asking the question here because it is one of the most helpful mailing lists. Judy

List, I am looking for someone who would be willing to go to the MHS and copy death certificates for me. I have a rather lengthy list. If you are interested, please contact me off list. Thank you, Wanda

Wanda, Laura Aaneson (not sure I spelled that correctly) does this type of work for a very reasonable fee. I have used her services and find her efficient and trustworthy. Here is her site http://home.comcast.net/~familytrees/ MeLani --List, -- --I am looking for someone who would be willing to go to the --MHS and copy --death certificates for me. I have a rather lengthy list. If you are --interested, please contact me off list. -- --Thank you, --Wanda -

Just an FYI regarding KinSource and the 1885 Minnesota State Census. I received the following update this morning on the latest added schedules. Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:53 PM Subject: Additions to the KinSource Archives - August 20, 2003 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > > Dear KinSource Subscriber, > > KinSource has added more schedules (7,349 names) for Rice County to the 1885 Census Database. These schedules include: Shieldsville, Warsaw, Webster, Wells, Wheatland, Wheeling and Walcott. The KinSource Archives now include all schedules for Rice County. > > If you do not want to receive these mailings, notify KinSource at [email protected] > > KinSource > www.kinsource.com > >

I just spent about 20 minutes reading these "Previous Tales of the Week" on KinSource. They're excerpts from various old MN newspapers, mostly St. Paul and Minneapolis. Lots of misc. articles with many names of ordinary people, some very interesting articles! Be sure to check these out. You might find something on one of your relatives!! They're also just fun to read. http://kinsource.com/index.htm Claudia Schuman - Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnhennep/ http://hennbios.tripod.com/index.htm http://fdlbios.tripod.com/index.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnscott/index.htm

Oh, and be sure to read the "Tale of the Week" as well as the previous Tales of the week! http://kinsource.com/index.htm Claudia Schuman - Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnhennep/ http://hennbios.tripod.com/index.htm http://fdlbios.tripod.com/index.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnscott/index.htm

I don't know if any of you have ever checked this out. I have a link to this site on the Hennepin County pages under "Census", but hadn't looked at it myself lately. Kathryn Kelly has been transcribing the 1885 Minnesota State Census, and has the following areas below completed. Check out her site http://kinsource.com/index.htm KinSource's subscription archives currently contain the following resources: 1885 Minnesota Census - Searchable Database (310,855 records) Hennepin County All schedules (including Minneapolis) Pope County All schedules Ramsey County All schedules (including St. Paul) Redwood County All schedules Renville County All schedules Rice County Bridgewater, Dundas, Cannon City, Erin & City of Faribault, Forest, Morristown, City of Northfield & Richland schedules Claudia Schuman - Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnhennep/ http://hennbios.tripod.com/index.htm http://fdlbios.tripod.com/index.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnscott/index.htm

Folks should check with their local libraries, to ask if they subscribe to Ancestry Gold. It isn't quite a full subscription to Ancestry, but you can do census lookups. The 1930 census index and printouts are quite good. BTW: the 1910 is not indexed, at least here in the MN Historical Soc library, so it can be much more time consuming. Good luck! Kate [email protected] On Sun, 17 Aug 2003, Ron Holmquist wrote: > Hi Folks! > > I'm truly sorry if I asked you folks on this list for "to much" help. > > However, I want to thank Anna and Ellen of the Swedish List for taking the > time and effort to help me. > > PS. Claudia, if I could afford the luxury of subscribing to the .coms you > mentioned, I would. But that's another story........ > > Ron > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Claudia" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 12:05 PM > Subject: Re: [MNHENNEP] Census lookup, please. Mpls, Henn, MN > > > > Ron, > > > > That's a lot of lookups to ask someone to do. I don't think you realize > how > > time consuming going through the census pages are for some of us "dial-up" > > modem users. You might want to subscribe to the census yourself. > > www.ancestry.com or www.genealogy.com They have monthly subscriptions > too. > > It's not that we don't want to help people, but it's not quite fair to ask > > for so much when others are paying for their subscriptions. > > > > Claudia Schuman - Coordinator > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnhennep/ > > http://hennbios.tripod.com/index.htm > > http://fdlbios.tripod.com/index.htm > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnscott/index.htm > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ron Holmquist" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 11:50 AM > > Subject: [MNHENNEP] Census lookup, please. Mpls, Henn, MN > > > > > > > Hi folks! > > > > > > May I please have a 1900, 1910, 1920 & 1930 Federal Census lookup for > the > > > following person: > > > > > > Charles John Swenson/Swanson, b June 1, 1864 in Sweden. And, his wife, > > Ollie > > > (Olivia), b May 3, 1865 in Sweden. > > > > > > Charles and his family lived in the 4100 block of Colfax Ave No, > > > Minneapolis, MN > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Ron in Folsom, LA > > > > > > > > > >

Jo, Did you get the page for Coe Brown? I didn't hear back from you. Claudia Schuman - Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnhennep/ http://hennbios.tripod.com/index.htm http://fdlbios.tripod.com/index.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnscott/index.htm

Heritage Quest Ron, Here's another suggestion. If would like to get in on a libary that gives out cards for $35 per year on their site you can get in on your own ID. Go to: http://www.godfrey.org/

Hi Jo! Sorry if my explanation was not acceptable to some! No "flaming" was intended. Ron in Folsom ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [MNHENNEP] Census lookup, please. Mpls, Henn, MN > Ron > > Claudia was not out of line in her suggestion. If you have never searched > through the census records you have no idea how time consuming that can be. > Asking someone to look up census records that are not indexed is like > searching for a needle in a haystack. > > I know that it is not always easy to afford things, I am disabled and have > limited income. But genealogy is not a cheap hobby and we have to prioritize. > > Claudia did not say that nobody would do them, she simply pointed out that > your request was asking someone to dedicate a great deal of their time to > looking up a whole string of things. > > If you need to ask for help you might just do one thing at a time. And we > usually try to offer our own assistance in return. For example, > "If some kind soul has access and could look up (your family) family in the > 1910 census I would appreciate it. I can reciprocate by doing research for you > in (whatever location you live in). > > Many of us look things up for others all the time, but it is nice to offer an > exchange as a means of saying thank you. > > I am glad someone was able to look those up for you, but do not imply that > Claudia was rude or out of line. She is one of the most generous people you can > find when it comes to helping others - take a look at the Hennepin Website > which she does for ALL OF US. > she was simply pointing out that for a dial-up connection your request could > have been many hours of research. > > Jo >

Thanks for the info, MeLani!! Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "MeLani" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 2:56 PM Subject: RE: [MNHENNEP] Census lookup, please. Mpls, Henn, MN > Ron, > Depending on where you live, you might be able to at least access > Heritage Quest online for free. > Many public libraries have Heritage Quest subscriptions which allow any > library card holder to use the databases from their home computer. I > just go to the library's website and enter my card number to access > Heritage. > If you are interested, check out the libraries in your area to see if > any provide this. I live out in the country, but, I was still able to > purchase a non-resident library card for $25 and have at-home access to > many of their databases. > MeLani > > --PS. Claudia, if I could afford the luxury of subscribing to > --the .coms you > --mentioned, I would. But that's another story........ > -- > --Ron > >

Ron Claudia was not out of line in her suggestion. If you have never searched through the census records you have no idea how time consuming that can be. Asking someone to look up census records that are not indexed is like searching for a needle in a haystack. I know that it is not always easy to afford things, I am disabled and have limited income. But genealogy is not a cheap hobby and we have to prioritize. Claudia did not say that nobody would do them, she simply pointed out that your request was asking someone to dedicate a great deal of their time to looking up a whole string of things. If you need to ask for help you might just do one thing at a time. And we usually try to offer our own assistance in return. For example, "If some kind soul has access and could look up (your family) family in the 1910 census I would appreciate it. I can reciprocate by doing research for you in (whatever location you live in). Many of us look things up for others all the time, but it is nice to offer an exchange as a means of saying thank you. I am glad someone was able to look those up for you, but do not imply that Claudia was rude or out of line. She is one of the most generous people you can find when it comes to helping others - take a look at the Hennepin Website which she does for ALL OF US. she was simply pointing out that for a dial-up connection your request could have been many hours of research. Jo

Ron, Depending on where you live, you might be able to at least access Heritage Quest online for free. Many public libraries have Heritage Quest subscriptions which allow any library card holder to use the databases from their home computer. I just go to the library's website and enter my card number to access Heritage. If you are interested, check out the libraries in your area to see if any provide this. I live out in the country, but, I was still able to purchase a non-resident library card for $25 and have at-home access to many of their databases. MeLani --PS. Claudia, if I could afford the luxury of subscribing to --the .coms you --mentioned, I would. But that's another story........ -- --Ron