Karen, from your Iowa experience, any idea on initial and maintenance costs, reliability, people power, etc.? Mike Clay Co From: Martha A Crosley Graham via Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 6:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MNGEN] Rootsweb Heading Good Morning, I recently adopted St Louis County [and City] in Missouri as I have folks there. The Anc heading was not there on the 31 of March, today it is. I guess they did the tagging or whatever on the 1st of April. Another reason to get our own domain and get the heck offa RW. I am willing to contribute financially to a fund to get our own domain and set up a server. Martha ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mike, With all counties with loads of data online, the boards, Gravestone Photo Project with over 1million entries plus all the other special projects like Old Press, Civil and Great Wars, and History etc, I believe the cost is 65 a month or a quarter. My big thing in doing this isn't the cost, it would be finding an IT team like IAGenWeb has. I am willing to donate as well but maybe we should look at a bona fide organization like "Friends of IAGenWeb" a non-profit organization, which funds the IAGenWeb project? It will take work to set it up so maybe later down the line this would be a good idea for perpetuation? Do we have any IT people in the MNGenWeb that could assist? We would need a minimum of two IT persons, set up should be gradual and I am not sure what the initial set up cost was, I can ask Mark. As far as reliability, IAGenWeb has never gone down or been hacked. I know of two instances where it was offline overnight for upgrades and one instance of the server people having a hardware crash that really didn't affect us except for uploading. I know the USGenWeb project has space that would not cost but we did not have good luck with that in MTGenWeb project. It would be better to have our own to control it rather than be at the whims of others imho. Definitely something to think about as Ancestry again is causing difficulties. Karen On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 9:14 AM, Mike Peterson via <[email protected]> wrote: > Karen, > from your Iowa experience, any idea on initial and maintenance costs, reliability, people power, etc.? > Mike > Clay Co > > From: Martha A Crosley Graham via > Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 6:30 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MNGEN] Rootsweb Heading > > Good Morning, > I recently adopted St Louis County [and City] in Missouri as I have > folks there. > The Anc heading was not there on the 31 of March, today it is. I guess > they did the tagging or whatever on the 1st of April. > > Another reason to get our own domain and get the heck offa RW. > > I am willing to contribute financially to a fund to get our own domain > and set up a server. > Martha > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Now *this* topic I care about. :) I am actually shocked that it took ancestry this long before they pulled this stunt. This is what I expected out of them when they first bought the domains and infrastructure from the rootsweb.com volunteer organization. The next step that I expected, but may or may not have happened yet, is that they would scrape a copy of all the data out of the rootsweb county pages and “add it” to their databases to “enhance” their data for their customers. If anyone is taking a vote, I vote that MNGen goes the same direction as IAGen to obtain their own hosting. Karen, what basic skill sets do the “minimum of two IT persons” need to have? * mail server admin * web server admin * account set up and deletion * be able to ssh and sftp I can do ssh, sftp, and can probably remember how to do account creation/password resets. But its probably been about 15 years since I did any web server (Apache “back in the day") administration and I’ve never been a mail admin. Another thought, would the IAGenWeb administrators be willing to take on MN and help us get set up? Just until we could find a couple more admins with the required skills? Just wondering if they’d be willing to help out the state immediately to the north or if they’d say “I’ve got too much to do already." Kathy > On Apr 2, 2015, at 9:33 AM, Karen De Groote via <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Mike, > With all counties with loads of data online, the boards, Gravestone > Photo Project with over 1million entries plus all the other special > projects like Old Press, Civil and Great Wars, and History etc, I > believe the cost is 65 a month or a quarter. My big thing in doing > this isn't the cost, it would be finding an IT team like IAGenWeb has. > I am willing to donate as well but maybe we should look at a bona fide > organization like "Friends of IAGenWeb" a non-profit organization, > which funds the IAGenWeb project? It will take work to set it up so > maybe later down the line this would be a good idea for perpetuation? > Do we have any IT people in the MNGenWeb that could assist? We would > need a minimum of two IT persons, set up should be gradual and I am > not sure what the initial set up cost was, I can ask Mark. As far as > reliability, IAGenWeb has never gone down or been hacked. I know of > two instances where it was offline overnight for upgrades and one > instance of the server people having a hardware crash that really > didn't affect us except for uploading. I know the USGenWeb project > has space that would not cost but we did not have good luck with that > in MTGenWeb project. It would be better to have our own to control it > rather than be at the whims of others imho. > > Definitely something to think about as Ancestry again is causing difficulties. > Karen > > On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 9:14 AM, Mike Peterson via <[email protected]> wrote: >> Karen, >> from your Iowa experience, any idea on initial and maintenance costs, reliability, people power, etc.? >> Mike >> Clay Co >> >> From: Martha A Crosley Graham via >> Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 6:30 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [MNGEN] Rootsweb Heading >> >> Good Morning, >> I recently adopted St Louis County [and City] in Missouri as I have >> folks there. >> The Anc heading was not there on the 31 of March, today it is. I guess >> they did the tagging or whatever on the 1st of April. >> >> Another reason to get our own domain and get the heck offa RW. >> >> I am willing to contribute financially to a fund to get our own domain >> and set up a server. >> Martha >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message