I like Mike's idea of a separate site for all the CC stuff and it also make sense to me to not co-mingle them. It does not have to be anything fancy. The public has no need for access to logos and such or our rules. Laverne On 3/20/2015 9:02 AM, Timothy Stowell via wrote: > For now we are working on getting the state site fixed, reorganized, more > user friendly and every so often working on our own county sites. > > Thanks though for your suggestions. > > Tim > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Mike (Dino) Peterson <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Or perhaps, a separate MNGenWeb State site that has a function of only >> helping/advising Minnesota coordinators. Then, the current MNGenWeb site, >> remain as a site for others. >> >> *From:* Timothy Stowell via <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2015 10:42 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [MNGEN] USGenWeb Requirements >> >> Thanks Mike for your elaboration. >> >> Seems such an addition could range from help with acquiring data, >> formatting data and/or sites and posting data to suggestions for various >> elements to assist the coordinators give visitors other tools in their >> research efforts. >> >> Tim >> >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 1:33 AM, Mike (Dino) Peterson <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Tim, >>> speaking strictly in basics and generalities, the current state web site >>> is designed to help the researcher. I’m suggesting the purpose of the >> site >>> become two-fold; 1) help researchers, 2) help Minnesota coordinators.. >>> Mike >>> >>> *From:* Timothy Stowell via <[email protected]> >>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2015 7:14 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [MNGEN] USGenWeb Requirements >>> Mike, >>> >>> Would you elaborate what you mean by 'separate from the PR to >> researchers'? >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Mike Peterson via <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Good note Karen ! >>>> I think the state web site should have a ‘coordinator’ section similar >>> how >>>> USGenWeb and some other states do it. Separate from the PR to >>> researchers. >>>> Also, I think our state site should have a guidelines page for us – >>>> similar to USGenWeb - http://usgenweb.org/volunteers/guidelines.shtml >> . >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Mike >>>> Clay Co >>>> >>>> From: Karen De Groote via >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 5:55 PM >>>> To: List MNGenWeb >>>> Subject: [MNGEN] USGenWeb Requirements >>>> >>>> Greetings CCs, >>>> Below is a very important email that we all need to read so that we >>>> are on the same page. If you have any questions or comments, please >>>> feel free to write one of the leadership team or post on the list for >>>> general discussion. >>>> >>>> We need to get our sites up to snuff and this email will serve as a >>>> simple explanation of what we should do. Now that we have gotten >>>> MNGenWeb up and running again, we need to take it to the next level. >>>> Sometime in the next 10 days you need to take a look at your >>>> county(ies) to make sure all is in order. As a valued member of the >>>> USGenWeb project we need to get polished up now that we are once again >>>> standing on firm ground. >>>> >>>> At the end of the explanations is a short list of all the >>>> requirements. You can use that as a check list in making sure your >>>> sites comply with USGenWeb requirements and read the detailed >>>> information for clarification. >>>> >>>> Additionally, Tim, Shirley and I, as your leadership team, have >>>> divided up the counties among the three of us, in order to make it >>>> easier to visit all counties. The division is as follows using an >>>> alphabetized list of couties and making sure we do not have a county >>>> personally in our respective divisions: >>>> >>>> Tim: counties A-H >>>> Karen: counties I-O >>>> Shirley: counties P-Y >>>> >>>> What this also means is that you have a specific leadership person who >>>> will bring to the team any questions and concerns that you may have, >>>> whenever you need them. >>>> >>>> >>>> The leadership team will begin reviewing their counties at the end of >>>> this 10 day period for the basic requirements and you will be getting >>>> an email of congratulations or whoops we have something yet to do. >>>> >>>> USGenWeb CC requirements can be found at: >>>> http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/guidelines.shtml >>>> >>>> Point by point explanation of requirements: >>>> >>>> 1. The first requirement is a name and email on your index page. It >>>> is very important that visitors know who they can contact about YOUR >>>> county. It is perfectly acceptable to have first name only but there >>>> must be a name. It is also perfectly fine to have a text or picture >>>> link of the email rather than a hyperlink if you want to cut down on >>>> spam. Another good idea is a hyperlink to a contact page. (See >>>> Nicollet County for this example: >>>> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnnicoll/) Many people will use >>>> this method so they merely have to change one page, not page after >>>> page on a site. It is up to you and how you want your email to appear >>>> but we do >>>> need a name and an email contact of some sort on the index page.. >>>> This name and email should be easily found, not hidden at the bottom >>>> of page or hidden in a similar color. This is especially difficult >>>> for our color blind visitors. >>>> >>>> 2. The next requirement is responding to emails from researchers in a >>>> reasonable time period. If someone writes to you from your county >>>> page, some response should go out within a reasonable time frame. In >>>> this day and age it shouldn't take more than a few days to get back >>>> with people. This response can simply state that you do not have the >>>> information they seek or you need more time to dig up their answer, if >>>> you are so inclined. If you go on vacation or away from your email >>>> for quite some time, let your leadership team know you will be out of >>>> communication for X amount of time. Visitors complain to the SC if >>>> they don't get responses. >>>> >>>> 3. Item 3 will come under separate cover: Copyright >>>> >>>> 4. Solicitation of funds is inappropriate except as allowed in the >>>> bylaws, Section IX. To paraphrase this requirement, no memberships, >>>> contributions or materials for sale are allowed on the index page. >>>> The USGenWeb project has a commitment to free genealogy for >>>> researchers and it would not do to have monetary demands on the index >>>> page of your county. It does not, however, prevent links to purchase >>>> genealogical materials or hire a paid researcher on pages other than >>>> the index page and dedicated to these services. >>>> >>>> 5. All index pages require the prominent display of the USGenWeb >>>> logo. We have 4 acceptable logos we can use. These were voted in to >>>> official use some dozen or so years ago. The logos page is at: >>>> http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/logos.shtml Prominent display >>>> means you don't have to go looking for them, they are showing when you >>>> open the page. Your county site should immediately indicate that you >>>> are a member of the USGenWeb project, with the proper and prominent >>>> placement of one of these official logos. You must also link the logo >>>> itself or provide a text link immediately under the logo to the >>>> USGenWeb home page: http://www.usgenweb.org >>>> >>>> 6. As a CC you are required to be subscribed to this mailing list. >>>> Obviously if you receive this message you are good to go. Some have >>>> complained of the great amount of email on this list in the past. In >>>> order to cut down on the amount of emails during a discussion, you can >>>> subscribe to this list in digest mode which will send one email a day >>>> with the pertinent discussions. >>>> >>>> 7. All counties must offer some type of query system. The easiest >>>> method is to provide a link to the Rootsweb/Ancestry query board for >>>> your county but you can use your own county based query system. A >>>> countyabased system provides a query system that is on your country >>>> site where you post all queries you receive manually. If that is >>>> what you like to do, you are welcome to do it in this manner. >>>> >>>> 8. All county sites must provide a link to the state site. We voted >>>> on an official logo for this project and if you use a MNGenWeb logo, >>>> it MUST be the official logo for this project. If you use a logo you >>>> must either link the logo to the state project page at, >>>> http://rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mngenweb/, or provide a text link >>>> immediately under the logo. Here is the page with our official logo >>>> and the acceptable banner that can be used on other pages that are NOT >>>> the index page: http://rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mngenweb/logo.htm. >>>> This is an area that we have problems with in this project. Some are >>>> using the old logo and some are using the the new BANNER on the index >>>> page for a logo rather than the official logo. It only takes a few >>>> minutes reformat your index page to utilize the official MNGenWeb >>>> logo. You are welcome to ADD a banner somewhere on your index page >>>> for decoration but it cannot take the place of the official logo. >>>> >>>> 9. The official name of our project is MNGenWeb, exactly like that. >>>> Capital M, N, G, lowercase e, n, capital W, lowercase e,b. Any other >>>> title is unacceptable. Minnesota spelled out is not acceptable. >>>> Counties should be called Subject County, MNGenWeb or even Subject >>>> County Genealogy, a MNGenWeb county. MNGenWeb has to be in your title >>>> for identification purposes. Anoka County is one example of proper >>>> branding: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnanoka/intro.htm >>>> >>>> It should take a person no more than 15-30 minutes to correct any >>>> deficiencies in their index page. To recap the the list of required >>>> items: >>>> >>>> 1. Name and email (or contact link) on index page >>>> 2. Respond to emails from researchers in timely manner. >>>> 3. Current copyright >>>> 4. Solicitation of funds handled properly >>>> 5. USGenWeb logo and link >>>> 6. Subscribed to email list >>>> 7. Query system offered >>>> 8. Link to state site, official logo if using logo >>>> 9. Official name in MNGenWeb >>>> >>>> There are a number of recommended and strongly recommended items on >>>> the National rules page that you may wish to add to your sites. They >>>> are not a requirement at this time but if you choose to use these >>>> elements, please make sure they are correct. For example Pico Search >>>> is no longer in business so if you have them on your page, they need >>>> to be replaced by a working search engine. >>>> >>>> Thank you so much, one and all! >>>> >>>> Karen De Groote >>>> ASC >>>> Tim Stowell >>>> SC >>>> Shirley Cullum >>>> SC >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Super discussion. I concur with Madam NC but will have to make sure my county sites include the word Project as well as apparently the USGenWeb project page. Hmm, do I need to capitalize P?. We will have to add that to our CC help page when it goes up. Karen On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Laverne H. Tornow via <[email protected]> wrote: > I like Mike's idea of a separate site for all the CC stuff and it also > make sense to me to not co-mingle them. It does not have to be anything > fancy. The public has no need for access to logos and such or our rules. > > Laverne > > On 3/20/2015 9:02 AM, Timothy Stowell via wrote: >> For now we are working on getting the state site fixed, reorganized, more >> user friendly and every so often working on our own county sites. >> >> Thanks though for your suggestions. >> >> Tim >> >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Mike (Dino) Peterson <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Or perhaps, a separate MNGenWeb State site that has a function of only >>> helping/advising Minnesota coordinators. Then, the current MNGenWeb site, >>> remain as a site for others. >>> >>> *From:* Timothy Stowell via <[email protected]> >>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2015 10:42 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [MNGEN] USGenWeb Requirements >>> >>> Thanks Mike for your elaboration. >>> >>> Seems such an addition could range from help with acquiring data, >>> formatting data and/or sites and posting data to suggestions for various >>> elements to assist the coordinators give visitors other tools in their >>> research efforts. >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 1:33 AM, Mike (Dino) Peterson <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Tim, >>>> speaking strictly in basics and generalities, the current state web site >>>> is designed to help the researcher. I’m suggesting the purpose of the >>> site >>>> become two-fold; 1) help researchers, 2) help Minnesota coordinators.. >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> *From:* Timothy Stowell via <[email protected]> >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2015 7:14 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [MNGEN] USGenWeb Requirements >>>> Mike, >>>> >>>> Would you elaborate what you mean by 'separate from the PR to >>> researchers'? >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Tim >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 9:37 PM, Mike Peterson via <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Good note Karen ! >>>>> I think the state web site should have a ‘coordinator’ section similar >>>> how >>>>> USGenWeb and some other states do it. Separate from the PR to >>>> researchers. >>>>> Also, I think our state site should have a guidelines page for us – >>>>> similar to USGenWeb - http://usgenweb.org/volunteers/guidelines.shtml >>> . >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> Mike >>>>> Clay Co >>>>> >>>>> From: Karen De Groote via >>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 5:55 PM >>>>> To: List MNGenWeb >>>>> Subject: [MNGEN] USGenWeb Requirements >>>>> >>>>> Greetings CCs, >>>>> Below is a very important email that we all need to read so that we >>>>> are on the same page. If you have any questions or comments, please >>>>> feel free to write one of the leadership team or post on the list for >>>>> general discussion. >>>>> >>>>> We need to get our sites up to snuff and this email will serve as a >>>>> simple explanation of what we should do. Now that we have gotten >>>>> MNGenWeb up and running again, we need to take it to the next level. >>>>> Sometime in the next 10 days you need to take a look at your >>>>> county(ies) to make sure all is in order. As a valued member of the >>>>> USGenWeb project we need to get polished up now that we are once again >>>>> standing on firm ground. >>>>> >>>>> At the end of the explanations is a short list of all the >>>>> requirements. You can use that as a check list in making sure your >>>>> sites comply with USGenWeb requirements and read the detailed >>>>> information for clarification. >>>>> >>>>> Additionally, Tim, Shirley and I, as your leadership team, have >>>>> divided up the counties among the three of us, in order to make it >>>>> easier to visit all counties. The division is as follows using an >>>>> alphabetized list of couties and making sure we do not have a county >>>>> personally in our respective divisions: >>>>> >>>>> Tim: counties A-H >>>>> Karen: counties I-O >>>>> Shirley: counties P-Y >>>>> >>>>> What this also means is that you have a specific leadership person who >>>>> will bring to the team any questions and concerns that you may have, >>>>> whenever you need them. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The leadership team will begin reviewing their counties at the end of >>>>> this 10 day period for the basic requirements and you will be getting >>>>> an email of congratulations or whoops we have something yet to do. >>>>> >>>>> USGenWeb CC requirements can be found at: >>>>> http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/guidelines.shtml >>>>> >>>>> Point by point explanation of requirements: >>>>> >>>>> 1. The first requirement is a name and email on your index page. It >>>>> is very important that visitors know who they can contact about YOUR >>>>> county. It is perfectly acceptable to have first name only but there >>>>> must be a name. It is also perfectly fine to have a text or picture >>>>> link of the email rather than a hyperlink if you want to cut down on >>>>> spam. Another good idea is a hyperlink to a contact page. (See >>>>> Nicollet County for this example: >>>>> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnnicoll/) Many people will use >>>>> this method so they merely have to change one page, not page after >>>>> page on a site. It is up to you and how you want your email to appear >>>>> but we do >>>>> need a name and an email contact of some sort on the index page.. >>>>> This name and email should be easily found, not hidden at the bottom >>>>> of page or hidden in a similar color. This is especially difficult >>>>> for our color blind visitors. >>>>> >>>>> 2. The next requirement is responding to emails from researchers in a >>>>> reasonable time period. If someone writes to you from your county >>>>> page, some response should go out within a reasonable time frame. In >>>>> this day and age it shouldn't take more than a few days to get back >>>>> with people. This response can simply state that you do not have the >>>>> information they seek or you need more time to dig up their answer, if >>>>> you are so inclined. If you go on vacation or away from your email >>>>> for quite some time, let your leadership team know you will be out of >>>>> communication for X amount of time. Visitors complain to the SC if >>>>> they don't get responses. >>>>> >>>>> 3. Item 3 will come under separate cover: Copyright >>>>> >>>>> 4. Solicitation of funds is inappropriate except as allowed in the >>>>> bylaws, Section IX. To paraphrase this requirement, no memberships, >>>>> contributions or materials for sale are allowed on the index page. >>>>> The USGenWeb project has a commitment to free genealogy for >>>>> researchers and it would not do to have monetary demands on the index >>>>> page of your county. It does not, however, prevent links to purchase >>>>> genealogical materials or hire a paid researcher on pages other than >>>>> the index page and dedicated to these services. >>>>> >>>>> 5. All index pages require the prominent display of the USGenWeb >>>>> logo. We have 4 acceptable logos we can use. These were voted in to >>>>> official use some dozen or so years ago. The logos page is at: >>>>> http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/logos.shtml Prominent display >>>>> means you don't have to go looking for them, they are showing when you >>>>> open the page. Your county site should immediately indicate that you >>>>> are a member of the USGenWeb project, with the proper and prominent >>>>> placement of one of these official logos. You must also link the logo >>>>> itself or provide a text link immediately under the logo to the >>>>> USGenWeb home page: http://www.usgenweb.org >>>>> >>>>> 6. As a CC you are required to be subscribed to this mailing list. >>>>> Obviously if you receive this message you are good to go. Some have >>>>> complained of the great amount of email on this list in the past. In >>>>> order to cut down on the amount of emails during a discussion, you can >>>>> subscribe to this list in digest mode which will send one email a day >>>>> with the pertinent discussions. >>>>> >>>>> 7. All counties must offer some type of query system. The easiest >>>>> method is to provide a link to the Rootsweb/Ancestry query board for >>>>> your county but you can use your own county based query system. A >>>>> countyabased system provides a query system that is on your country >>>>> site where you post all queries you receive manually. If that is >>>>> what you like to do, you are welcome to do it in this manner. >>>>> >>>>> 8. All county sites must provide a link to the state site. We voted >>>>> on an official logo for this project and if you use a MNGenWeb logo, >>>>> it MUST be the official logo for this project. If you use a logo you >>>>> must either link the logo to the state project page at, >>>>> http://rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mngenweb/, or provide a text link >>>>> immediately under the logo. Here is the page with our official logo >>>>> and the acceptable banner that can be used on other pages that are NOT >>>>> the index page: http://rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mngenweb/logo.htm. >>>>> This is an area that we have problems with in this project. Some are >>>>> using the old logo and some are using the the new BANNER on the index >>>>> page for a logo rather than the official logo. It only takes a few >>>>> minutes reformat your index page to utilize the official MNGenWeb >>>>> logo. You are welcome to ADD a banner somewhere on your index page >>>>> for decoration but it cannot take the place of the official logo. >>>>> >>>>> 9. The official name of our project is MNGenWeb, exactly like that. >>>>> Capital M, N, G, lowercase e, n, capital W, lowercase e,b. Any other >>>>> title is unacceptable. Minnesota spelled out is not acceptable. >>>>> Counties should be called Subject County, MNGenWeb or even Subject >>>>> County Genealogy, a MNGenWeb county. MNGenWeb has to be in your title >>>>> for identification purposes. Anoka County is one example of proper >>>>> branding: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnanoka/intro.htm >>>>> >>>>> It should take a person no more than 15-30 minutes to correct any >>>>> deficiencies in their index page. To recap the the list of required >>>>> items: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Name and email (or contact link) on index page >>>>> 2. Respond to emails from researchers in timely manner. >>>>> 3. Current copyright >>>>> 4. Solicitation of funds handled properly >>>>> 5. USGenWeb logo and link >>>>> 6. Subscribed to email list >>>>> 7. Query system offered >>>>> 8. Link to state site, official logo if using logo >>>>> 9. Official name in MNGenWeb >>>>> >>>>> There are a number of recommended and strongly recommended items on >>>>> the National rules page that you may wish to add to your sites. They >>>>> are not a requirement at this time but if you choose to use these >>>>> elements, please make sure they are correct. For example Pico Search >>>>> is no longer in business so if you have them on your page, they need >>>>> to be replaced by a working search engine. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you so much, one and all! >>>>> >>>>> Karen De Groote >>>>> ASC >>>>> Tim Stowell >>>>> SC >>>>> Shirley Cullum >>>>> SC >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message