Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't it a lack of "rules" in MNGenWeb that put you in the position of having the AB take over the project to revive it? Every organization from the lowliest to the largest has to have rules or procedures by which to operate or it stagnates and dies, also those rules must be reviewed periodically and updated to reflect changes not only in the organization, but changes within society. As for the amount of e-mail that is being generated during this resuscitation process, had you had rules or procedures to begin with non of this would be happening. and since we ARE an internet based organization what alternative method would you suggest we use to communicate Lynn? Are you subbed in digest mode or regualr. if it is regular then you might want to switch to digest, that way you get 2 or 3 e-mails a day that have all the emails lumped into them! Laverne On 2/14/2015 9:46 PM, Lynn Brandvold via wrote: > Tim, > > You've got my vote! I don't want to deal with more by-Laws, rules, > regulations or guidelines. I am rapidly becoming burned out with all > these emails as it is. > > Lynn Brandvold > Pennington and Red Lake Counties > On 2/14/2015 9:40 AM, Timothy Stowell via wrote: >> Linda, >> >> Actually I am not in favor of creating more rules for coordinators to >> follow. The national bylaws are sufficient and have been for the nearly 19 >> years of our existence. Some would say, what would we do if the leadership >> disappears again? We could do just as was done this time, ask national for >> assistance. >> >> Perhaps more regular roll calls than our previous yearly roll call would >> alert the members to a problem sooner - ie a roll call instituted by the >> SC/ASC team rather than everyone posting on list 'here' or 'present'. >> >> Since it seems most coordinators are adults, saying to them, that our state >> logo needs to be at the top of the main page of a county site and if >> linked, linked to the state page - there is really no reason to make a rule >> that says do this or else. >> >> Most people are pleasant to work with, so why complicate their lives with >> more rules unless those who want the rules seek to control other people's >> creativity? >> >> That said, I would not stand in the way of those who like to have more >> rules, to serve some purpose that eludes me. >> >> Tim >> >> On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Linda Ziemann via <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Good morning. Without restating everything regarding this, I agree with >>> what >>> Martha has stated in her response. (In fact, based on what I have read, >>> the candidates for SC are in favor of establishing MN state bylaws, with >>> accompanying rules.) Any bylaws approved by the members, should "enhance" >>> the Project-not detract from it (to quote Martha.) YES! Right on! >>> >>> My approach would be to ask for volunteers from the members, establishing a >>> "committee" to put together a group of bylaws. These in turn would be >>> presented to the membership for discussion and a vote. The rules also would >>> be formulated and presented in much the same manner. "Together" the MEMBERS >>> would establish & vote to set the bylaws and the rules. >>> >>> Most importantly it is essential that the CCs be proactive in finding & >>> transcribing data, recruiting others to help, uploading the free data to >>> the >>> county, presenting the ancestor data for the MN visiting researchers to >>> find. >>> >>> Everyone have a great weekend! Happy Hearts Day! >>> Linda Ziemann >>> Candidate for SC >>> Rock County Coordinator >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2/13/15, 10:21 PM, "Kermit Kittleson via" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I just want to "second" what Martha just said. >>>> >>>> Kermit Kittleson >>>> >>>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Martha A Crosley Graham via < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Shirley, >>>>> Thank you for the concise information on the difference between >>>>> Guidelines and By-Laws. >>>>> One of the things that is bothersome to me is the tendency to re-invent >>>>> some of the basic [and common sense] items that have been spelled out >>>>> over time in the USGW. >>>>> >>>>> I am not a 'micro-manager' type of SC here in CA. Blatant disregard for >>>>> the By-laws set up by the USGW are obvious items of concern and should >>>>> be addressed as they come up or are found. By-laws at the local [State] >>>>> level should enhance the Project, not detract from it. >>>>> >>>>> As an entity that promotes 'Free Genealogical and Historical Data', the >>>>> whole idea is to make resources available to visiting Researchers. If we >>>>> are so caught up in compliance issues, we are not giving ourselves time >>>>> to get the data located, formatted and uploaded. >>>>> >>>>> Martha >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in >>>> the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Lynn gets to feel however she wants to feel about the excessive email and bantering. And she should be able to state her feelings without public harassment. Be nice. Kathy > On Feb 15, 2015, at 8:13 AM, Laverne H. Tornow via <[email protected]> wrote: > > Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't it a lack of "rules" in MNGenWeb > that put you in the position of having the AB take over the project to > revive it? > > Every organization from the lowliest to the largest has to have rules or > procedures by which to operate or it stagnates and dies, also those > rules must be reviewed periodically and updated to reflect changes not > only in the organization, but changes within society. > > As for the amount of e-mail that is being generated during this > resuscitation process, had you had rules or procedures to begin with non > of this would be happening. and since we ARE an internet based > organization what alternative method would you suggest we use to > communicate Lynn? Are you subbed in digest mode or regualr. if it is > regular then you might want to switch to digest, that way you get 2 or 3 > e-mails a day that have all the emails lumped into them! > > Laverne >> On 2/14/2015 9:46 PM, Lynn Brandvold via wrote: >> Tim, >> >> You've got my vote! I don't want to deal with more by-Laws, rules, >> regulations or guidelines. I am rapidly becoming burned out with all >> these emails as it is. >> >> Lynn Brandvold >> Pennington and Red Lake Counties >>> On 2/14/2015 9:40 AM, Timothy Stowell via wrote: >>> Linda, >>> >>> Actually I am not in favor of creating more rules for coordinators to >>> follow. The national bylaws are sufficient and have been for the nearly 19 >>> years of our existence. Some would say, what would we do if the leadership >>> disappears again? We could do just as was done this time, ask national for >>> assistance. >>> >>> Perhaps more regular roll calls than our previous yearly roll call would >>> alert the members to a problem sooner - ie a roll call instituted by the >>> SC/ASC team rather than everyone posting on list 'here' or 'present'. >>>