Mike, Guidelines are # 2 on my to do list. #1 is appointing 3 ASC's to assist with the organization of the State and it's 87 Counties. In order to have a smooth running State, there has to be an Admin Team in place first. Then comes the rules and regulations. Martha

OK, but if elected how high on your list of things to do will generating some bylaws for us to vote on be. Mike From: Shirley Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:18 PM To: Mike (Dino) Peterson ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [MNGEN] Marc Pennau Logo, cont. - but should not be so restrictive as to stifle creativity. Simple guidelines help everyone in the long run. Shirley Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 13, 2015, at 2:04 PM, Shirley <[email protected]> wrote: > > I believe that state bylaws should be a standard set of rules that help CC' > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 13, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Mike (Dino) Peterson via <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> For those of you, especially those running for SC, who are not enthused about bylaws; I know of “no” bylaw or rule which provides for the proper/improper display of the MNGenWeb state logo. There are requirements for displaying the USGenWeb logo but none for our state. If I am missing it, I would appreciate someone letting me know. >> >> USGenWeb Bylaw >> >> “IX. GUIDELINES/STANDARDS FOR WEBSITES/MEMBERS >> >> A. All websites shall include prominent display of The USGenWeb Project logo on the home page. A state project logo may be required depending on the guidelines/standards in effect for that state. >> IX. A was amended as follows by a vote of the membership in July 2010: >> A. All websites shall include prominent display of The USGenWeb Project logo on the home page. If linked, this logo may only be linked to the USGenWeb National site. A state project logo may be required depending on the guidelines/standards in effect for that state. If linked, a state project logo may only be linked to the appropriate state site.” >> >> Bylaws and rules can be a pain but there are some issues that keep popping up periodically that would be much easier to handle if the state had a minimal set of bylaws, etc. >> >> In the current SC election I saw only two candidates mention bylaws with one of them having it as a goal near the top of their list. We can have minimal rules which people can rely on or we can continue to spend a lot of time discussing issues like logos time and again on this list because there are no rules. >> Mike >> Clay Co >> >> >> >> >> From: Karen De Groote via >> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 10:04 AM >> To: List MNGenWeb >> Subject: Re: [MNGEN] Marc Pennau Logo >> >> It is my understanding the the approved logo must be on the index page and >> the banner can be on all other pages. >> Karen >> Becker, Todd and Stearns >> >> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Martha A Crosley Graham via < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Tim, >>> Thank you for the update on the Banner. >>> Now, my question. >>> Can the approved banners be used in place of a logo? >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

OK, but if elected how high on your list of things to do will generating some bylaws for us to vote on be. Mike From: Martha A Crosley Graham via Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MNGEN] Guidelines Good Afternoon, I agree with Shirley, Simple and easy to understand Guidelines should be the mainstay of any set of rules for a State. Martha ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think Karen is right. That can and should be worked out when rules for the project are established. Shirley Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 13, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Karen De Groote via <[email protected]> wrote: > > It is my understanding the the approved logo must be on the index page and > the banner can be on all other pages. > Karen > Becker, Todd and Stearns > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Martha A Crosley Graham via < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Tim, >> Thank you for the update on the Banner. >> Now, my question. >> Can the approved banners be used in place of a logo? >> >> Martha >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good Afternoon, I agree with Shirley, Simple and easy to understand Guidelines should be the mainstay of any set of rules for a State. Martha

It is my understanding the the approved logo must be on the index page and the banner can be on all other pages. Karen Becker, Todd and Stearns On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Martha A Crosley Graham via < [email protected]> wrote: > Tim, > Thank you for the update on the Banner. > Now, my question. > Can the approved banners be used in place of a logo? > > Martha > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

For those of you, especially those running for SC, who are not enthused about bylaws; I know of “no” bylaw or rule which provides for the proper/improper display of the MNGenWeb state logo. There are requirements for displaying the USGenWeb logo but none for our state. If I am missing it, I would appreciate someone letting me know. USGenWeb Bylaw “IX. GUIDELINES/STANDARDS FOR WEBSITES/MEMBERS A. All websites shall include prominent display of The USGenWeb Project logo on the home page. A state project logo may be required depending on the guidelines/standards in effect for that state. IX. A was amended as follows by a vote of the membership in July 2010: A. All websites shall include prominent display of The USGenWeb Project logo on the home page. If linked, this logo may only be linked to the USGenWeb National site. A state project logo may be required depending on the guidelines/standards in effect for that state. If linked, a state project logo may only be linked to the appropriate state site.” Bylaws and rules can be a pain but there are some issues that keep popping up periodically that would be much easier to handle if the state had a minimal set of bylaws, etc. In the current SC election I saw only two candidates mention bylaws with one of them having it as a goal near the top of their list. We can have minimal rules which people can rely on or we can continue to spend a lot of time discussing issues like logos time and again on this list because there are no rules. Mike Clay Co From: Karen De Groote via Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 10:04 AM To: List MNGenWeb Subject: Re: [MNGEN] Marc Pennau Logo It is my understanding the the approved logo must be on the index page and the banner can be on all other pages. Karen Becker, Todd and Stearns On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Martha A Crosley Graham via < [email protected]> wrote: > Tim, > Thank you for the update on the Banner. > Now, my question. > Can the approved banners be used in place of a logo?

Tim, Thank you for the update on the Banner. Now, my question. Can the approved banners be used in place of a logo? Martha

I wrote to Kermit on the 9th to ask him if he would modify the banner he submitted for the contest to say MNGenWeb (with a capital N), which was a modified version of the original one created by Marc Pennau. He did so and I placed his modified rendition on the Yellow Medicine county site: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnyellow/ Shirley has now placed it on the logo page as well - http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mngenweb/logo.htm Tim On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 1:04 AM, Shirley <[email protected]> wrote: > (Cont.) could use it without another vote once it has been modified. > > Shirley > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 5, 2015, at 10:01 PM, Shirley <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Marc's banner was ready approved by the members so I would think that we > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Feb 5, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Timothy Stowell via <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> I would think it means that it can be modified to say MNGenWeb and then > >> fall into a contest or not for a banner to use on one's site in > addition to > >> the logo. > >> > >> Tim > >> > >> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Linda Ziemann via <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Does this mean (once the written permission is received) that there > will be > >>> 2 different logos that are permissible to use? This Marc P. one and > the one > >>> just voted on by MNGenWeb CCs? > >>> Linda Ziemann > >>> > >>> On 2/5/15, 3:14 PM, "Martha A Crosley Graham via" <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Karen, > >>>> Thank you for the information on the Marc P logo. > >>>> That is the nice blue one? I like it too. > >>>> > >>>> Martha > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>> quotes in > >>>> the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > >>> in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Good Morning, No problems using ftp here in California Martha -- Saturday at the Movies: http://jigex.com/1A7zIiK http://jigex.com/1KxQmeo http://jigex.com/1KxRazR

FTP working ok from here. Tim On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 11:06 PM, Colleen via <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi all, > > Is anyone having trouble FTP'ing to Rootsweb - besides me, that is? > > Colleen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I have been FTP'ing since about 9 pm with no problems. Shirley On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Colleen via <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi all, > > Is anyone having trouble FTP'ing to Rootsweb - besides me, that is? > > Colleen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi all, Is anyone having trouble FTP'ing to Rootsweb - besides me, that is? Colleen

I did fine but it was this morning. Mike From: Colleen via Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MNGEN] FTP Hi all, Is anyone having trouble FTP'ing to Rootsweb - besides me, that is? Colleen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John you were right.I cut and pasted <link rel="icon" href="mngenwebfavicon.ico" type="image/x-icon">into my index page header and the favicon shows up!  Thank you.Unfortunately you were also right that I have to put it in the header of every page.again thanks!Vikki   From: John Van Essen <[email protected]> To: MNGENWEB via <[email protected]> Cc: Laverne H. Tornow <[email protected]>; Vikki Gray <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [MNGEN] Favicon with New Logo You CAN use favicon on rootsweb.  Ann uses it on her own county pages:     http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnsherbu/ The favicon feature is a browser-implemented feature.  It will check the root directory of the whole website for a default, but not any others. (I think when it first came out in 1999 IE checked the current directory first before checking the root, but that generated too many useless http requests and so that was dropped.) To get it to be used for your webpages when its top-level directory is not the root for the website, you need to have a line in each of your html files:   <link rel="icon" href="mngenwebfavicon.ico" type="image/x-icon"> And of course you have to have the file in your top-level directory. If a page is in a sub-top-level-directory, you'll need to prepend "../" for each level to find the icon file in your top-level directory.  For example,   /~mnfoobar/2nd/3rd/file.html    would need to have   href="../../mngenwebfavicon.ico" Or, just use href="/~mnfoobar/mngenwebfavicon.ico" in all your pages and hope that you never leave rootsweb.  :)  (Or whatever the path would be if you are on a non-rootsweb host.)     John On Feb 08, 2015, at 22:14, Laverne H. Tornow via wrote: > If I remember correctly, and I may well be wrong on this, you can't use > favicons on Rootsweb.  I have tried putting the graphic in the > public_html directory which is for all intents and purposes the "root" > folder and I have tried using it in the main directory that only has the > public_html folder in it and it does not work, however it does work on > my webhosting svc where I keep and online back up so if for some reason > I need to have site url changed to there, it is ready to go with just a > url change on the MSGenweb State Page. > > Laverne > On 2/8/2015 5:44 PM, Shirley Cullum via wrote: >> Ann Hammer has created a favicon using the new logo and she has graciously >> offered it to all members of the MNGenWeb if they would like to use it. >> Here is the link: >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnsherbu/mngenwebfavicon.ico >> >> Thanks Ann! >> >> Shirley

My counties are updated with the new logo / banner. Took some finagling since I hand code, like I've done for the most part since I first learned. Traverse - http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mntraver/ Wilkin - http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnwilkin/ - which gets updated soon with new biographies Yellow Medicine - http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnyellow/ - figuring out some graphics for a book to add Tim On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Shirley Cullum via <[email protected]> wrote: > I have added a link to the new logo sets on the Logo page ( > www.rootsweb.com/~mngenweb/logo.htm) and now have one of the logos Keith > provided on the MNGenWeb pages. > > Shirley > (catching up as I can. <g>) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

You can use favicon's on Rootsweb. Theirs is a default favicon for any pages that do not have one of their own. You may have to delete your browser history files to see the one that you use. Browsers are very lazy and create a cache of old pages to pull up when you request it. By deleting the history file cache of old pages, you force the browser to refresh the page from the server. Bryant -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Van Essen via Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 12:34 AM To: MNGENWEB via Subject: Re: [MNGEN] Favicon with New Logo You CAN use favicon on rootsweb. Ann uses it on her own county pages: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnsherbu/ The favicon feature is a browser-implemented feature. It will check the root directory of the whole website for a default, but not any others. (I think when it first came out in 1999 IE checked the current directory first before checking the root, but that generated too many useless http requests and so that was dropped.) To get it to be used for your webpages when its top-level directory is not the root for the website, you need to have a line in each of your html files: <link rel="icon" href="mngenwebfavicon.ico" type="image/x-icon"> And of course you have to have the file in your top-level directory. If a page is in a sub-top-level-directory, you'll need to prepend "../" for each level to find the icon file in your top-level directory. For example, /~mnfoobar/2nd/3rd/file.html would need to have href="../../mngenwebfavicon.ico" Or, just use href="/~mnfoobar/mngenwebfavicon.ico" in all your pages and hope that you never leave rootsweb. :) (Or whatever the path would be if you are on a non-rootsweb host.) John On Feb 08, 2015, at 22:14, Laverne H. Tornow via wrote: > If I remember correctly, and I may well be wrong on this, you can't > use favicons on Rootsweb. I have tried putting the graphic in the > public_html directory which is for all intents and purposes the "root" > folder and I have tried using it in the main directory that only has > the public_html folder in it and it does not work, however it does > work on my webhosting svc where I keep and online back up so if for > some reason I need to have site url changed to there, it is ready to > go with just a url change on the MSGenweb State Page. > > Laverne > On 2/8/2015 5:44 PM, Shirley Cullum via wrote: >> Ann Hammer has created a favicon using the new logo and she has >> graciously offered it to all members of the MNGenWeb if they would like to use it. >> Here is the link: >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnsherbu/mngenwebfavicon.ico >> >> Thanks Ann! >> >> Shirley ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi everyone.  I am trying to put the new favicon on my sites, which are on rootsweb.  However Rootsweb apparently has a favicon somewhere that shows up instead.  I'm just putting the favicon in the same folder where my index page resides.  Does anyone know what I am doing wrong or is there a way to do this so that Rootsweb's favicon doesn't override the new MN one?Thanks,Vikki   From: Shirley Cullum via <[email protected]> To: List MNGenWeb <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 3:44 PM Subject: [MNGEN] Favicon with New Logo Ann Hammer has created a favicon using the new logo and she has graciously offered it to all members of the MNGenWeb if they would like to use it. Here is the link: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnsherbu/mngenwebfavicon.ico Thanks Ann! Shirley ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Karen.The PNG image is transparent, and it indicates that by showing the black part.  If you look at your page through your browser it will look fine.  Open you html page and (on Windows) hit F12.  That will show you what it looks like when its posted and you are seeing it in your browser.  I was just adding mine and came across the same problem until I figured out what was going on. Vikki Gray   From: Karen De Groote via <[email protected]> To: Shirley Cullum <[email protected]>; List MNGenWeb <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [MNGEN] New Logo Images I don't know what I am doing wrong but each time I try to insert the PNG image, the background is all black.  Help Keith or anyone! Karen Becker, Todd and Stearns On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Shirley Cullum via <[email protected]> wrote: > I have added a link to the new logo sets on the Logo page ( > www.rootsweb.com/~mngenweb/logo.htm) and now have one of the logos Keith > provided on the MNGenWeb pages. > > Shirley > (catching up as I can. <g>) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No I meant the original, but I have it all figured out now and have one of Keith's logo on the pages just need to finish the upload! Laverne On 2/8/2015 11:38 PM, Timothy Stowell via wrote: > Laverne, > > Do you mean the one Keith designed based on the original logo Marc gifted > to MinnesotaGenWeb? > > Tim > > On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Laverne H. Tornow via <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> My question is this: can I keep the existing Penneau (sp?)banner on my >> page ( former official log prior to contest) since we now have >> permission to use it? The only reason I ask is that to utilize the new >> logo, I will have to totally rework the header section of the css file >> so one of the new images will fit. I love the ones Keith made, and had >> no clue it would take several hours of trial and error to pace one of >> them there. In the meantime I would rather spend more time getting data >> on the site than spend the time doing a rework to make the new logo >> image work! >> >> Laverne >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >