Please send your check-ins for the March Roll-call to [email protected] I will reply to each check-in so you will know it was received. Thanks, Shirley

March check in for Traverse, Wilkin and Yellow Medicine. Tim Stowell On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Colleen Goltz via <[email protected]> wrote: > Norman checking in > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Shirley Cullum via <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > In order to eliminate some of the email traffic on the MN mail list, I > have > > set up an email account for the MN Roll-call. Please send your check-ins > > for the March Roll-call to > > [email protected] > > > > I will reply to each check-in so you will know it was received. > > > > Have a great week-end! > > Shirley > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > *Colleen Goltz* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Norman checking in On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Shirley Cullum via <[email protected]> wrote: > In order to eliminate some of the email traffic on the MN mail list, I have > set up an email account for the MN Roll-call. Please send your check-ins > for the March Roll-call to > [email protected] > > I will reply to each check-in so you will know it was received. > > Have a great week-end! > Shirley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Colleen Goltz*

In order to eliminate some of the email traffic on the MN mail list, I have set up an email account for the MN Roll-call. Please send your check-ins for the March Roll-call to [email protected] I will reply to each check-in so you will know it was received. Have a great week-end! Shirley

Mike, I am one who has taken on several Counties in several States but each and everyone of them I have ties to except one, well at least when I took it I had no clue I had ties there! While I have updated and placed info on 20 FLGenWeb Counties, only 5 of them are mine, the rest I am just babysitting until we can find a CC for them. I have found it is so much easier to find a CC for a county that has been updated and put into a format that is easy for someone else to carry on with! When I get one udated, have added a few documents and such, found a couple of people who while they do not want the responsibility for the site, but are willing to help by doing transcriptions, taking cemetery photos and doing look ups, I move on to the next county needing help! The five that are mine, one there is little else to add to it since the wonderful gentleman I inherited it from was a county clerk employee and spearheaded a project to get all the county records from its inception in 1824 to 1940 indexed and transcribed and placed on the website! I have placed a few family history narrratives, updated some cemeteries, one is the youngest county in Florida and is very rural with a very small population! Besides a couple of groceries, 3 convenience stores and the State Prison there isn;t much there. The population of the prison is about equal with the population of the rest of the county. I put what I can there, it is a farming community for the most part. the other three counties are my home county and its two children, of which I am adding information weekly. Again the county I have in Georgia, is very rural and the youngest county in the state, and there again not a lot there, but I do the best I can. The County I have in Illinois is where my husband was born and I took it on as a favor to the local newspaper owner, my husband and the local genealogy society, so I have lots of help there! The county in New Jersey I took as a favor to Denise Wells the SC and our current NC, she had been trying to adopt it out for a couple of years to no avail, so I said I would at least get it updated and try to find some new stuff to put on it! Lo and behold while updating it I fount the 7th Great g-pa I had been seeking for 10 yrs! I had absoluetly no clue the family had originated in Cape May County NJ or that Dennis Twp was named for him. Denise asked if I would help by taking a MN County just to get it updated and sit it til a local coordinator could be found. I said yes, but only if LeSeur or Nicollet was available as I had a great great aunt who settled there with her family in the 1850's and I had a few things I could place on it from my own files Well as luck would have it, at the time Nicollet was available so here I am. As I am pretty much confined to a recliner with legs propped and don;t get out a lot because of bad legs I have the time to devote to them, but I am getting spread thin and will not be taking on anymore sites anywhere until I get a few adopted out! I do not plan to be a permanent fixture here in MNGenWeb, I hope within the next 12 to 18 mo or sooner to find someone to take it over as I do not have either the contacts or the resources to do it full justice. In the mean time I will just plug away and do the best that I can! Florida is my home, has been all my life but 6 yrs, and I am the 7th gen of my family born and raised here, so that is where my true passion lies. Laverne On 2/26/2015 10:15 PM, Mike (Dino) Peterson via wrote: > It was almost two years ago when I first noticed that Clay County was not being enhanced and date references were very old. So I wrote the SC and ASC to see if it was up for adoption. If I remember right I wrote to one address each. Several weeks went by and no response. I started looking around the state and noticed there were several counties that had not been updated, contained dead links galore, and if there were dates they were old. That wasn’t true for all of them as I noticed some sharp looking sites with lots of data. So I wrote again and this time I used, it seems, four or five email addresses. Again, after several weeks no response. I regret very much that I did not inform national people of this. Things may have recovered more easily if this was brought to someone’s attention earlier. A mistake by me. On one hand I was sorry I did not get a county where my wife’s folks were from and where I grew up across the river. But on the other I was somewhat glad I c! ouldn’t get involved with a state and with many many counties that really didn’t seem to care. Eventually, and thanks to Kermit, the word got out that something was amiss. I looked at what was being done and who was being involved in getting it right and so I decided to volunteer again. Since that day in November over 200 pages have been added or updated and much redesign done. Along with that I had two other counties. I bring all this up because it appeared that in addition to people just ignoring there were many sites with the same coordinator and many familiar names in various places in USGenWeb and I often wondered how people managed to enhance a website regularly when they were cc’s for several places. I’m retired. I take much time out for travel. Yet, it takes a lot of time to keep just three counties going. Obviously the closer I got to it I realized much wasn’t getting done and my guess would be they had so much to handle. Much should be said for being a ! volunteer, there are so many I admire, but when a volunteer ha! s all th ese other functions to do, eventually nothing gets done. There has been a lot done in the past three months and lo and behold some of the sites that were inactive were starting to get active again or at least the dates on the sites were being updated. I’m grateful for that and I’m grateful to Denise and Shirley and others for their knowledge, their gumption, for their forward looking attitudes, and for a desire to get done what needed to get done for all of us to get moving. I’m grateful to you Shirley for your part in trying to make Minnesota shine, for your time, for your patience, and for being a volunteer that has not only been in the process of helping but in leading without a whole lot of authority but with a desire to try and get it done anyway. And, to get at it even in some times when a serious medical problem occurs in your family and you needed to spend time with that issue. Thank you. No matter where this goes, you are a plus plus for MNGen. We don’t hav! e a whole lot of voters in Minnesota, YET, but those who are members I sure hope you get out and vote. 100% would sure show a lot about attitudes in Minnesota and would be super great. > Sincerely, > Mike > Clay Co > > From: Shirley Cullum via > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 12:36 PM > To: Colleen ; List MNGenWeb > Subject: Re: [MNGEN] Runoff SC Question > > Questions should have been asked before the run-off election time period. > However, I feel that I am the best choice for the MN SC position because I > am a firm believer in the USGenWeb Project and for it's purpose as intended > by the founders. The state projects are extensions of the parent project > and should reflect that purpose. I feel that the MNGenWeb is on the road to > a great future and I sincerely want to help make the MNGenWeb Project one > of the best state projects in the USGenWeb. > > Shirley > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Colleen via <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Shirley and Tim, >> >> Why are you the best choice for SC of Minnesota? >> >> Colleen >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Colleen, Thank you for your question. Please feel free to ask questions any time. First, I have no other position of commitment in any other state save for being a county coordinator. Thus Minnesota would be my only state to coordinate. My wife is from Wilkin County and I have visited it many times in the last 25 years. I have working relationships with people in government, historical societies and individuals whom I've met and coordinated adding material on line from biographies, land records, history and death records. I, too, have past experience in being a SC having been the SC for North Dakota from 1996-2003 (73 counties) and Georgia (161 counties) from around 2000-2003. Having been offered to host counties and the State of North Dakota in the founding year, 1996, I have always been committed to the premise of the USGenWeb Project, regardless of the personal fiefdom agendas some personalities have displayed over the years. I was a proponent of the National Bylaws and voted for the current working regulations the Advisory Board uses. Handling a project as large as Georgia was, I found it easier to break down the tasks with a management team of 10, whose job it was to assist coordinators in their region with coding problems, finding data to add and the like. They were the first point of contact for CCs even though my door was always open as well. While Minnesota does not have the same number of counties as Georgia, I would envision something similar for MNGenWeb. I've made mistakes, learned from them. I try to treat people as I would like to be treated. Thus I would listen to views from across the board, find consensus and move on from there. There is no need to denigrate any member for their beliefs or stance on any subject even if I happen to disagree with them. Rather it would be my job as a fellow coordinator to better express my beliefs so that perhaps the other person would better understand my position. Perhaps neither will change their view on the subject but at the very least we would know well each other's views. I host two county sites in Tennessee, where I live and am a board director and secretary of TNGenNet, the umbrella organization that TNGenWeb falls under. I also host four counties in New York state where my father was from. I host other sites for other entities including a couple of personal sites - but those are mostly static. My apologies for not replying earlier today, but I was out walking and enjoying the 8 inches of snow we got last night, a real rarity for us. I trust this answers your question. If not, please feel free to send a follow up post. With kindest regards, Tim On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Colleen via <[email protected]> wrote: > Shirley and Tim, > > Why are you the best choice for SC of Minnesota? > > Colleen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

It was almost two years ago when I first noticed that Clay County was not being enhanced and date references were very old. So I wrote the SC and ASC to see if it was up for adoption. If I remember right I wrote to one address each. Several weeks went by and no response. I started looking around the state and noticed there were several counties that had not been updated, contained dead links galore, and if there were dates they were old. That wasn’t true for all of them as I noticed some sharp looking sites with lots of data. So I wrote again and this time I used, it seems, four or five email addresses. Again, after several weeks no response. I regret very much that I did not inform national people of this. Things may have recovered more easily if this was brought to someone’s attention earlier. A mistake by me. On one hand I was sorry I did not get a county where my wife’s folks were from and where I grew up across the river. But on the other I was somewhat glad I couldn’t get involved with a state and with many many counties that really didn’t seem to care. Eventually, and thanks to Kermit, the word got out that something was amiss. I looked at what was being done and who was being involved in getting it right and so I decided to volunteer again. Since that day in November over 200 pages have been added or updated and much redesign done. Along with that I had two other counties. I bring all this up because it appeared that in addition to people just ignoring there were many sites with the same coordinator and many familiar names in various places in USGenWeb and I often wondered how people managed to enhance a website regularly when they were cc’s for several places. I’m retired. I take much time out for travel. Yet, it takes a lot of time to keep just three counties going. Obviously the closer I got to it I realized much wasn’t getting done and my guess would be they had so much to handle. Much should be said for being a volunteer, there are so many I admire, but when a volunteer has all these other functions to do, eventually nothing gets done. There has been a lot done in the past three months and lo and behold some of the sites that were inactive were starting to get active again or at least the dates on the sites were being updated. I’m grateful for that and I’m grateful to Denise and Shirley and others for their knowledge, their gumption, for their forward looking attitudes, and for a desire to get done what needed to get done for all of us to get moving. I’m grateful to you Shirley for your part in trying to make Minnesota shine, for your time, for your patience, and for being a volunteer that has not only been in the process of helping but in leading without a whole lot of authority but with a desire to try and get it done anyway. And, to get at it even in some times when a serious medical problem occurs in your family and you needed to spend time with that issue. Thank you. No matter where this goes, you are a plus plus for MNGen. We don’t have a whole lot of voters in Minnesota, YET, but those who are members I sure hope you get out and vote. 100% would sure show a lot about attitudes in Minnesota and would be super great. Sincerely, Mike Clay Co From: Shirley Cullum via Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 12:36 PM To: Colleen ; List MNGenWeb Subject: Re: [MNGEN] Runoff SC Question Questions should have been asked before the run-off election time period. However, I feel that I am the best choice for the MN SC position because I am a firm believer in the USGenWeb Project and for it's purpose as intended by the founders. The state projects are extensions of the parent project and should reflect that purpose. I feel that the MNGenWeb is on the road to a great future and I sincerely want to help make the MNGenWeb Project one of the best state projects in the USGenWeb. Shirley On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Colleen via <[email protected]> wrote: > Shirley and Tim, > > Why are you the best choice for SC of Minnesota? > > Colleen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

MNGenWeb is in the process of rebuilding...and I, for one, am looking forward to helping get this state back on its feet. Shirley, thanks for your candidacy and thanks so much for being willing to share your former experiences of building a State back up. Your proven record stands for itself....and my vote in this run-off has been cast! I want to say a huge thanks to those of the MNGenWeb membership that nominated me for SC--and to those of you, too, who voted for me. The initial election time is over, and I was very impressed with the high percentage of CCs who voted. That was exceptional. Now we are in the midst of voting for the 2 candidates in the run-off election. If you have not voted, then I encourage you to get that done asap. Along with Shirley, I am sincerely looking forward to MNGenWeb moving forward and becoming one of the best state projects in the USGenWeb. Linda Ziemannn, Rock County On 2/26/15, 2:36 PM, "Shirley Cullum via" <[email protected]> wrote: > Questions should have been asked before the run-off election time period. > However, I feel that I am the best choice for the MN SC position because I > am a firm believer in the USGenWeb Project and for it's purpose as intended > by the founders. The state projects are extensions of the parent project > and should reflect that purpose. I feel that the MNGenWeb is on the road to > a great future and I sincerely want to help make the MNGenWeb Project one > of the best state projects in the USGenWeb. > > Shirley > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Colleen via <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Shirley and Tim, >> >> Why are you the best choice for SC of Minnesota? >> >> Colleen >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Questions should have been asked before the run-off election time period. However, I feel that I am the best choice for the MN SC position because I am a firm believer in the USGenWeb Project and for it's purpose as intended by the founders. The state projects are extensions of the parent project and should reflect that purpose. I feel that the MNGenWeb is on the road to a great future and I sincerely want to help make the MNGenWeb Project one of the best state projects in the USGenWeb. Shirley On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Colleen via <[email protected]> wrote: > Shirley and Tim, > > Why are you the best choice for SC of Minnesota? > > Colleen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Shirley and Tim, Why are you the best choice for SC of Minnesota? Colleen

Bylaws for a state project are the foundation which creates stability for the project. The bylaws should provide guidance for the project so that it can function in case of an absent SC. A basic set of rules should include the items Mike mentioned as well as a means by which to make changes to the Bylaws.They should also lay out the responsibilities of the SC to the members of the project. Shirley

Mike, I believe you covered nearly every base, if not all, that could be in a set of state guidelines - many which would not even impact a county coordinator's site or position but rather address the vacuum MNGenWeb was in after our former SC went missing. It would give the project protection of what we as a group do when management goes missing, what basic elements web sites need, how long between elections for SC, how the ASC is selected and so forth. Such a document would lay a foundation upon which to build. I had an interesting conversation with a coordinator in another state this evening which I can only generalize but which reminded me of a conversation from long ago when someone was complaining in the late 90s about why we needed national bylaws. I remember stating to said person that as a group matured, grew, things would change. Look at how technology has changed in the last 10 years as vehicles such as boards, social media have changed how we interact versus how the Project started in 1996, with rudimentary email, everything posted by hand, even coding pages by hand or at the most copy / pasting code - to software that does much of the work for oneself, the move away from Yahoo and Rootsweb mailing lists to Facebook, Google books and the like. That said, the conversation with this person, reminded me that life is about change, that what worked last year, may not be the best for the now or the future. I know this for a fact in other places in USGenWeb or just life in general. I do believe, that with consensus we can come to a much better MNGenWeb this year than we've had in the past decade, providing an agreed upon foundation, that holds true to the core beliefs of the founder while extending our own state project to meet the reality of now and the future. Tim On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:06 PM, Mike Peterson via <[email protected]> wrote: > Rules can be abusive and confining but lack of rules creates problems, > inefficiencies, frustrations, and more. If Rootsweb didn't have rules we > would not get free websites from them. If World Wide Consortium didn't have > rules we would not have standards for websites to work, like colors, fonts, > hyperlinks, etc. If our servers did not have rules our websites would more > easily be hacked and/or destroyed. If our households didn't have rules, > kids > would just grow up the way they want. If USGenWeb did not have rules we > wouldn't be here. USGenWeb has basic rules. One of their rules is that > outside the basic nationwide rules the states would have their own rules. > And, every state has them now except some have nothing written and are at > the whim of the State Coordinator. Sort of like my rule is what the > coordinators will go by. MNGen needs their own basic rules. Things happen > that are of no business to USGenWeb but when things go wrong USGenWeb has > to > step in or just let the state things flop around. We were lucky that we > have > the current National Coordinator who stepped in to start things going > right. > There are National Coordinators in the past who would not do it. Minnesota > was without leadership for over two years until Kermit finally said hey > what's going on. Some and probably most of the coordinators probably didn't > even know it. Some knew and could not have cared less. Some just didn't do > anything or walked away from their county. Rules of the USGenWeb do not > cover everything in the state. They don't have to be extensive. Nor > elaborate. Nor lengthy. But, I believe some basic rules need to be in > place. > We are electing a State Coordinator. How long will that person be the SC? > There is no rule so the SC can stay as long as she/he wishes or just > disappear and we know what that causes. What should an SC be doing? Without > rules exactly what they feel like doing. What if we don't want the SC > anymore? Sorry, without rules the decision lies with the SC. So what are > the > SC's roles, how long is a SC term, how is a new election done, how do we, > the CC's, remove an SC, or, what do we do when an SC or even a CC abandons > their function? Once a rule is established how do we change it? For > example, > right now there is no rule which says we need to display a MNGenWeb logo on > our websites. That's sorry. We don't need a book. But we certainly need a > page or two of bylaws, and maybe a page or two of general rules. At the > beginning of this election, I asked for candidates to explain their > feelings/positions on having state rules. I didn't expect anyone to come > right out and say we don't need them but I was very interested in how they > felt about them and how high on their list of priorities were they. All > four, I think, clearly stated their position and clearly indicated their > enthusiasm or lack of it. And many of you also made it clear your position. > Thanks for sharing. I don't know about the rest of you but it certainly was > good input for my vote. I got carried away and I'm sorry for that. > Sincerely, > Mike > Clay Co > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Rules can be abusive and confining but lack of rules creates problems, inefficiencies, frustrations, and more. If Rootsweb didn't have rules we would not get free websites from them. If World Wide Consortium didn't have rules we would not have standards for websites to work, like colors, fonts, hyperlinks, etc. If our servers did not have rules our websites would more easily be hacked and/or destroyed. If our households didn't have rules, kids would just grow up the way they want. If USGenWeb did not have rules we wouldn't be here. USGenWeb has basic rules. One of their rules is that outside the basic nationwide rules the states would have their own rules. And, every state has them now except some have nothing written and are at the whim of the State Coordinator. Sort of like my rule is what the coordinators will go by. MNGen needs their own basic rules. Things happen that are of no business to USGenWeb but when things go wrong USGenWeb has to step in or just let the state things flop around. We were lucky that we have the current National Coordinator who stepped in to start things going right. There are National Coordinators in the past who would not do it. Minnesota was without leadership for over two years until Kermit finally said hey what's going on. Some and probably most of the coordinators probably didn't even know it. Some knew and could not have cared less. Some just didn't do anything or walked away from their county. Rules of the USGenWeb do not cover everything in the state. They don't have to be extensive. Nor elaborate. Nor lengthy. But, I believe some basic rules need to be in place. We are electing a State Coordinator. How long will that person be the SC? There is no rule so the SC can stay as long as she/he wishes or just disappear and we know what that causes. What should an SC be doing? Without rules exactly what they feel like doing. What if we don't want the SC anymore? Sorry, without rules the decision lies with the SC. So what are the SC's roles, how long is a SC term, how is a new election done, how do we, the CC's, remove an SC, or, what do we do when an SC or even a CC abandons their function? Once a rule is established how do we change it? For example, right now there is no rule which says we need to display a MNGenWeb logo on our websites. That's sorry. We don't need a book. But we certainly need a page or two of bylaws, and maybe a page or two of general rules. At the beginning of this election, I asked for candidates to explain their feelings/positions on having state rules. I didn't expect anyone to come right out and say we don't need them but I was very interested in how they felt about them and how high on their list of priorities were they. All four, I think, clearly stated their position and clearly indicated their enthusiasm or lack of it. And many of you also made it clear your position. Thanks for sharing. I don't know about the rest of you but it certainly was good input for my vote. I got carried away and I'm sorry for that. Sincerely, Mike Clay Co

Karen and all, If you look back to my post of 2/13 with the subject line: Marc Pennau Logo, I stated in part that my priority list included setting up a rules committee. - form rules committee (volunteers and/or appointees) 4-5 members, reporting back to the SC within a set time period I then went on to describe bylaws, guidelines and suggestions. My personal choices can remain with my sites creation. Leaders need to listen to input from the members and act by consensus, not by personal edict. Tim On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Karen De Groote via <[email protected]> wrote: > While I appreciate your right to campaign on behalf of one of the > candidates, I don't appreciate the choice. This run off seems to be > between a candidate who wishes to assure MNGenWeb's growth with basic > state rules and a candidate that feels we need no more rules than can > be found at the National level. In fact Martha, you were one of the > candidates that supported some MN guidelines which I appreciated. > While I like both candidates a great deal, the national rules didn't > do a bit of good leading up to this situation so I feel uncomfortable > voting for no rules. I don't want MNGenWeb to return to it's previous > state of disarray. > > Karen > Becker, Todd and Stearns > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Martha A Crosley Graham via > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Good Morning, > > I want to take this opportunity to thank those who voted for me. I > > appreciate the support. > > > > With a run-off now in progress, I would like to put forth a bit of > > campaigning on the part of Mr Timothy Stowell. > > As a new-comer to the MNGenWeb, I have listened to the discussions > > during the past few months and the various responses. > > > > I think Tim has a decent grasp of the current situation and will be able > > to set up a plan to continue the revitalization of the MNGenWeb Project. > > > > 'Vote for Tim' > > > > Martha > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you Tim for clarifying. I apologize for taking your personal beliefs (no rules) as part of your platform and thinking that Lynn's response on Feb 11 (see below) was exactly what you intended added to your note of Feb 14 (see below Lynn's) to which Kathy Hines agreed with not having more rules . That thread was titled ByLaws. <Tim, You've got my vote! I don't want to deal with more by-Laws, rules, regulations or guidelines. I am rapidly becoming burned out with all these emails as it is. Lynn Brandvold Pennington and Red Lake Counties> <Linda, Actually I am not in favor of creating more rules for coordinators to follow. The national bylaws are sufficient and have been for the nearly 19 years of our existence. Some would say, what would we do if the leadership disappears again? We could do just as was done this time, ask national for assistance. Perhaps more regular roll calls than our previous yearly roll call would alert the members to a problem sooner - ie a roll call instituted by the SC/ASC team rather than everyone posting on list 'here' or 'present'. Since it seems most coordinators are adults, saying to them, that our state logo needs to be at the top of the main page of a county site and if linked, linked to the state page - there is really no reason to make a rule that says do this or else. Most people are pleasant to work with, so why complicate their lives with more rules unless those who want the rules seek to control other people's creativity? That said, I would not stand in the way of those who like to have more rules, to serve some purpose that eludes me. Tim> I appreciate the "will of the people" attitude. Perhaps you can see from these two emails why I thought what I did? Thanks much, Karen Becker, Todd and Stearns On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Timothy Stowell via <[email protected]> wrote: > Karen and all, > > If you look back to my post of 2/13 with the subject line: Marc Pennau Logo, I > stated in part that my priority list included setting up a rules committee. > > - form rules committee (volunteers and/or appointees) 4-5 members, > reporting back to the SC within a set time period > > I then went on to describe bylaws, guidelines and suggestions. > > My personal choices can remain with my sites creation. Leaders need to > listen to input from the members and act by consensus, not by personal > edict. > > Tim

While I appreciate your right to campaign on behalf of one of the candidates, I don't appreciate the choice. This run off seems to be between a candidate who wishes to assure MNGenWeb's growth with basic state rules and a candidate that feels we need no more rules than can be found at the National level. In fact Martha, you were one of the candidates that supported some MN guidelines which I appreciated. While I like both candidates a great deal, the national rules didn't do a bit of good leading up to this situation so I feel uncomfortable voting for no rules. I don't want MNGenWeb to return to it's previous state of disarray. Karen Becker, Todd and Stearns On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Martha A Crosley Graham via <[email protected]> wrote: > Good Morning, > I want to take this opportunity to thank those who voted for me. I > appreciate the support. > > With a run-off now in progress, I would like to put forth a bit of > campaigning on the part of Mr Timothy Stowell. > As a new-comer to the MNGenWeb, I have listened to the discussions > during the past few months and the various responses. > > I think Tim has a decent grasp of the current situation and will be able > to set up a plan to continue the revitalization of the MNGenWeb Project. > > 'Vote for Tim' > > Martha > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good Morning, I want to take this opportunity to thank those who voted for me. I appreciate the support. With a run-off now in progress, I would like to put forth a bit of campaigning on the part of Mr Timothy Stowell. As a new-comer to the MNGenWeb, I have listened to the discussions during the past few months and the various responses. I think Tim has a decent grasp of the current situation and will be able to set up a plan to continue the revitalization of the MNGenWeb Project. 'Vote for Tim' Martha

The runoff election for MN SC is between Shirley Cullum Timothy Stowell The election will run from midnight tonight, 12:01AM CST 2/25/15 until 11:59am CST 2/28/15. As in the regular election, in order to be counted, you must send the email containing your vote to all three members of the election committee, i.e. Patrice Green <[email protected]>, Mike Sweeney <[email protected]>, Pat Asher <[email protected]> Please use the subject line "MN Run Off Election" for your email vote. Note that the voting period for the runoff election is **only four days** -- not the full week or more allotted to nominations and the regular election period. Vote early so you are not shut out. Pat Asher MNGenWeb Election Committee

I just looked at my previous msg announcing the results as it appears in the archives, and it is difficult to read, so I am resending for clarity. Eligible Voters: 31 Voted: 27 - 87.1% Results: Shirley Cullum 12 - 44.44% Martha Crosley Graham 4 - 14.82% Timothy Stowell 8 - 29.63% Linda Ziemann 3 - 11.11% Everything else remains the same. Pat Asher

Over 87% of you voted. That is impressive, and bodes well for the revitalization of MNGenWeb. Eligible Voters: 31 Voted: 27 87.1% Results: Shirley Cullum 12 44.44% Martha Crosley Graham 4 14.82% Timothy Stowell 8 29.63% Linda Ziemann 3 11.11% The election committee declares a run-off between Shirley Cullum and Timothy Stowell. The run-off election will begin Wednesday 2/25 and run through Saturday 2/28. If you have additional questions for these two candidates, please ask them starting now. We'll send a reminder on Tuesday about the beginning of the run-off voting period. Patrice Green, Mike Sweeney, Pat Asher, MN Election Committee