This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bethrau1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.minnesota.counties.faribault/1583.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Have you sent for his 1957 death certificate? Here is a link to the Faribault County genweb site, run by volunteers. There is a lookup volunteer for the birth index beginning in 1870: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnfariba/index.htm I believe this is "your" Joseph in 1905: 1905 MN Faribault County, Dunbar. This enumeration is not separated into households, instead each individual is listed on a separate line. August E. GRUNZKE, age 36, and Amelia, age 35 have several children listed after them: Hulda, William Henry, and Oscar, age 2. The next line is GRUNZKE, Joseph, age 17, working as a farm laborer. His length of residence in Dunbar in 1905 is listed as 8 years, 3 months. August and Amelia lived there 11 years, 1 month. This tells us Joseph is most likely NOT their son. I don't find any other adults with the name of Grunzke living in Dunbar for 8 years, 3 months (I checked exact spelling only due to time constraints). This length of residence doesn't seem to be correct, because he is not found in Dunbar in 1900. What about this entry in the 1900 census? Faribault County, Minnesota Lake, enumeration district 92, 46 B, sheet 1. The transcriber wrote GEENKE, but I think it is GRUNZKE or similar... [a little difficult to read, transcribed as best as I can] begins line 87, household #18 GRUNZKE? Frederick, head, Oct. 1830, born Germany, emigrated 1854, farmer. ---Mary, wife, May 1832, married 43 years, 9 children, 7 still living, born Germany, emigrated 1856. GRUNZKE, Frank, son, March, 1872, 28, born Minnesota, farmer. --- Kattie? A, daughter in law, Oct. 1874, 25, married 3 years, 1 child, born Minnesota. --- Walter, grandson, August 1898, 1, Minnesota. --- Joseph, grandson, June 1887, 12, born Minnesota, at school. ============================== Hmmm... I guess the 1900 census makes it clear that the Joseph listed is not the son of Frank and Kattie, because of his age, their length of marriage, and Kattie's statement she has only had one child... I think your best bet is to send for a death certificate, find an obit (I checked NewspaperArchive.com and didn't find 1957 newspapaer accounts for GRUNZKE for that area), and / or send for a microfilm of the newspaper from that area so you can read the obituary yourself. Good luck Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.