This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UGB.2ACE/659.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you so much. I was not sure whether they were the same or not. PLUS, I had taken it for granted that Girgen was just a misspelling of Gergen. Once again, Bob Olson to the rescue.