This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/UGB.2ACE/232.358 Message Board Post: I took a look for you at ancestry.com and found: Lizzie Emma Pagnekopf, birth date March 6, 1890, death date Oct. 12, 1984. Birth place Minnesota, death place Stanilsaus, California. Her mother's maiden name was Horning and father's last name was Schaefer. Also, George Julius Pagenkopf,birth date Dec. 30, 1978, death date July 18, 1942, birth place Minnesota, death place Sacramento, Californina. His mother's maiden name was Benjamin, and father's last name Pagenkopf. I hope this helps you. For my connection to Pagenkopfs, please see my earlier reply of today.