This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ThomasKer2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wexford/1660.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm not related to this person. You have both Holden & Adaline Geen being born Dec. 3, 1829 in NY. I don't think this is correct and 1900 is the only census to give the DOB in month/year format. Death record - County: Wexford City/village/township: Cadillac Last Name: Green Given Name: Adaline Birth: Dec. 3 18XX Age: 83 Death Day: 22 Death Month: May Death Year: 1913 Father's Given Name: Unknown Father's Birthplace - unknown Mother's Given Name: Unknown Mother's Birthplace - unknown 1880 - Name: Holden N. Green Home in 1880: Cadillac, Wexford, Michigan Age: 54 Estimated birth year: abt 1826 Birthplace: New York Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head) Spouse's name: Adeline Father's birthplace: New York Mother's birthplace: New York Occupation: Runs Waterworks Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Holden N. Green 54, NY - has a smashed hand Adeline Green 49, NY [1831] Harrey Green 21, MI - [engineer 1859] Horace Green 17, MI Walter Green 15, MI Lillie Green 13, MI Fred Green 8, MI Ester Barnes 78, NY = mother?? [1802] 1870 - Name: Esther Barnes Estimated birth year: abt 1805 Age in 1870: 65 Birthplace: New York Home in 1870: Chicago Ward 5, Cook, Illinois Race: White Gender: Female Post Office: Chicago Moses J Ludington 28, NY - policeman Mary Ludington 21, PA Esther Barnes 65, NY 1870 - Name: Holden W Green Estimated birth year: abt 1826 Age in 1870: 44 Birthplace: New York Home in 1870: Manistee Ward 3, Manistee, Michigan Race: White Gender: Male Post Office: Manistee Holden W Green 44, NY - manufacturing lumber Adaline Green 38, NY Ella M Green 13, MI Harry H Green 12, MI Tellie G Green 10, MI Horrga N Green 7, MI [Horace] Walter B Green 5, MI Ruby S Green 3, MI Thomas A Green 2/12, April '80, MI 1860 - Name: Holden N Green Age in 1860: 33 Birth Year: abt 1827 Birthplace: New York Home in 1860: Manistee, Manistee, Michigan Gender: Male Post Office: Traverse City Holden N Green 33, NY Adeline Green 27, NY Ellen A Green 4, MI Harry H Green 2, MI Death record - Name: Holden N. Green Death date: 29 Dec 1895 Death place: Ypsilanti, Washtenaw, Michigan Gender: Male Age at death: 69 years 10 months 15 days Estimated birth year: 1826 Birthplace: New York Marital status: Married Father's name: Thos. Green Mother's name: Sarah Green Occupation: Retired Judge Film number: 2363834 Digital GS number: 4208677 Image number: 839 Reference number: p 263 rn 153 Collection: Michigan Deaths 1867-1897 The URL for this item is http://seekingmichigan.org/u?/p129401coll7,747969 This is the URL for Holden's son Harry H. Green Harry's father is listed as "Olden Green" Harry's mother is listed as Adaline Clark - b. Canada I don't know how you can have two census records for Esther Barnes stating - m/inlaw and mother since 1880 is the 1st census that shows family relationships. What are the census years that you are referring??? FYI - All census records prior to the 1850 census only listed the head of household; whether male or female. NO specific age was stated for any family member NO place of birth was stated - city, state, or country NO city, town, or village is stated - only the county NO street address was stated NO marital status was stated - single, married, widowed, divorced NO family relationship was stated - brother, sister, cousin, son, daughter, wife, inlaw, etc. NO occupation was stated NO parental birthplaces are stated NO race was stated [but assume "white"] Step children are not enumerated as "step" children 1850, 1860 & 1870 census records do not show family relationships or parental birthplaces. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.