This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: thomasker2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/19037.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm not related to any member of this family. 1940 is the last available census at this time. Very few sites have information dating from 1940 to the present. Dorothy does not appear on the SSDI. She may have died before the SSDI was created or remarried after Eugene died. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: denacarreyn Surnames: Carreyn Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/2655.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: We are members of the Carreyn family from Detroit and may have more info. Curious to know how we may be related. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: thomasker2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/19036.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm not related to any member of this family. 1940 is the last available census at this time. Cannot locate Katherine Murphy in 1910. marriage record - Name: Frank Kraft Race (Original): Age (Expanded): 22 years Birth Year: 1889 Birthplace: Michigan Spouse's Name: Rose Murphy Spouse's Race (Original): Spouse's Age (Expanded): 18 years Spouse's Birth Year: 1893 Spouse's Birthplace: New York Event Date: 09 Jan 1911 Event Place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan Father's Name: Joseph Mother's Name: Julia Spouse's Father's Name: James Spouse's Mother's Name: Katherine NY Vital Records - New York began statewide registration of births, marriages, and deaths in 1880-81, under supervision of the State and local boards of health. Compliance with the law was incomplete until 1900 or even later; therefore certificates are lacking for many events. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dalerenaud Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/19036.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do you happen to know his parents names? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: michelemariebonotto Surnames: Zeak, Schriner, Bohn, Boertmann Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/19037/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am in need of finding information on Dorothy Mary Schriner. She married Eugene Zeak around 1925. She was born around 1904 in Pennsylvania. I know according to the 1930 census she and Eugene lived in Detroit. Probably moving here closing to Eugene's siblings shortly after getting married. I know she was living in 1935-1936 possibly until 1940 after that I can't find anything. I have been trying ancestry, family search and even the Michigan site recommended on here. I am really at a loss on where to look now. I welcome any advice or assistance. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: goneresearching Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/19034.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It all depends on the pastor and how detailed he kept his records. I've seen photos of pages of Zion's church books and the locations in Germany are recorded. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dulyanne4369 Surnames: Murphy Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/19036/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for a death date for James Murphy. He was born in 1864 in Canada. He was living in Buffalo, Erie County, New York in 1900 according to the U.S. Census. I am unable to locate him in the 1905 New York Stat Census or the 1910 U.S. Census, so he likely dies between 1900 and 1910. His youngest daughter Rose (my great grandmother) marries in Detroit, Michigan in January 1911. Three of six of James Murphy and Katherine Knight's children die in the Detroit, Michigan area. Thank you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JeanneLorf Surnames: Lorf, Neidigk, von Zerbst, Christineck, Lerm, Paul, Michaelis, Krauss Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/19034.1.1.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My paternal grandparents Christian Gottlieb Lorf (b. 1854) immigrated to Detroit in 1868 from Buko by Coswig-Anhalt, Sachsen-Anhalt, Germany and attended St. John's German Lutheran Church at about 700 W. Fort Street. I believe the Minister was Rev. Haas who married them in 1880. By the way, his great great grandmother was Christiane Elisabeth Michaelis born in 1714 in nearby Jessen, Sachsen-Anhalt, Germany. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JeanneLorf Surnames: Lorf, Neidigk, von Zerbst, Christineck, Lerm, Paul, Michaelis, Krauss Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/19034.1.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My grandparents (Christian Gottlieb Lorf, Jr. and Ida Barbara Geimer) were married in St. John's German Lutheran Church at 700 W. Fort Street, downtown Detroit in July 1880 by Rev. Haas. They lived in downtown Detroit, having immigrated in 1868 and had Lorf Tailor Shop at 150 E. Columbia. They later lived at 705 W. Fort Street in 1900. BTW, Gottlieb Lorf's great great grandmother was Christiane Elisabeth "Michaelis" was born in 1714 in Jessen, Sachsen-Anhalt (just East of Wittenberg), near where the Lorf's were born (Buko, Coswig-Anhalt, Sachsen-Anhalt, Germany). (Christiane's father was Christian Ernst Michaelis) My Michaelis and Christineck families attended University of Halle, Martin Luther's University and were Sexton's in the Lutheran Church. Jeanne Lorf Linley Harding jeannelinley2000@yahoo.com ( My tree is public - JeanneLorf on Ancestry.) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: steamboatfrannie Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/19034.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks so much -I will try the Zion Church. I have the pastor's name from the daughters' marriages at St Stephens.The dates are after 1900-do you think there would be any information on the parent's german origins? The parents were married in Germany and an older son was born in Germany.I am hoping that there would be some record of where the family came from in the church records.It's a long shot but I really appreciate your help. Thanks, Fran Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: goneresearching Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/19034.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Tip 1: Locate the civil record of the marriage (the one registered with the county) and note the name of the pastor from the record. There is a book done by the Downriver Gene Soc. that cross referenced pastors up to 1900 with churches from the city directories. These include some of the outskirt areas that were in the city directory. So name of pastor should get you the church. Option 2 is google the pastor's name. The Michigan marriage records can be found on www.familysearch.org in the digitized films area (bottom of search page). One possible church for Springwells Twp residents is: Zion Evangelical Lutheran Church (4305 Military Ave, Detroit, MI 48210). It began before 1890. I helped a lady with her family in Springwells and they were in this church. The church has a website but I do not know their policy of old record lookups (each church is different. Good Luck. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: phil1467 Surnames: Wolgast,Piper & Fischer Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/19034.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I just found a shortcut for you. They are still listed as in bbusiness? You can write them at: 8736Chamberlin ST Detroit MI 48209 another: 1235 Lawndale St. Detroit MI 48209 (the location), 2 phone #s 313-841 -7940 313-841-7963 My Wolgast,Piper & Fischer immigrants went there at first I thhink but moved into Detrpoit & belonged to ST.Johns on Russell St.Piper owned a bar on Fort St.BUT was a milkman at first in Spring Wells. Rough looking area & was annexed into Detroit ,when Spring Wells was a township. Good luck, Phil Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: phil1467 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/19034.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: They have no ancestry type lookups and no census or other places to search.They have congregations churches,staff,maybe if a church sent them the records in 1800's they may have them in some file on that church???? They have a Pastor file to look in for various pastors & teachers but that & the churches is about all they have. They do not interfere w/ the churches business as long as they comply w/ the basics of the MO Synod.Each church is on its own & a Democratic approach it how they handle it & may ask for advice from the Synod offices. PK Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: steamboatfrannie Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/19034.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks, anything you can find out would be great. I am wondering if they have a department to contact about genealogy questions or have records at their site. I am trying to find a church that my gggrandfather and family(Michaelis) would have belonged to after arriving in 1880 Springwells Township(later part of Detroit,MI. 3 daughters were born in the late 80s/early 1890s and married at St Stephens German Lutheran Church. The pastor there had a record book from 1890 and I don't know what church served that area before that. A brother who was 9 upon arrival in 1880 would have made his Confirmation in the 80s and I was hoping that a C record may have a place of baptism in Germany - just digging for any source that might lead to a place of birth in Germany! Thanks for any info you may be able to give on Lutheran records. Fran Steamboat Springs, CO Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: balrog_99 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/19035.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for the info. I found the date of his death with the links you provided. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: phil1467 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/19034.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: No one seems to have tried it seems. I am a member of the Institue in St Louis & can try. pkuehn38@comcast.net Phil Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: thomasker2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/19035.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm not related to any member of this family. 1940 is the last available census at this time. 1920 - Name: Clements Wicha Age: 26 Birth Year: abt 1894 Birthplace: Poland Home in 1920: Detroit Ward 16, Wayne, Michigan Race: White Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1912 Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status:Married Spouse's Name: Agnes Wicha Father's Birthplace: Poland Mother's Birthplace: Poland Home Owned: Rent Able to Read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Clements Wicha 26, Poland - welder @ auto factory Agnes Wicha 21, MI Stella Wicha 4, MI Josephine Wicha 2, MI 1930 - Name: Clements Wicha [Clemente Wicha] Gender: Male Birth Year: abt 1896 Birthplace: Poland Race: White Home in 1930: Dearborn, Wayne, Michigan Marital Status: Married Immigration Year: 1912 Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Agnes Wicha Father's Birthplace: Poland Mother's Birthplace: Poland Occupation: Age at first marriage: 19 Parents' birthplace: Clements Wicha 34, Poland Agnes Wicha 32, MI - Age at first marriage: 18 Parents' birthplace: Poland/Poland Stella M Wicha 14, MI Josephine A Wicha 13, MI Rita M Wicha 9, MI 1940 - Name: Klemens Wicha Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893 Gender: Male Race: White Birthplace: Poland Marital Status: Married Relation to Head of House: Head Home in 1940: Dearborn, Wayne, Michigan Street: Payne House Number: 6449 Farm: No Inferred Residence in 1935: Dearborn, Wayne, Michigan Residence in 1935: Same House Citizenship: Naturalized Sheet Number: 5A Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 97 Occupation: Welding House Owned or Rented: Owned Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 6500 Attended School or College: No Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 8th grade Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 32 Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work Weeks Worked in 1939: 48 Income: 1800 Income Other Sources: No Klemens Wicha 47 Agnes Wicha 43 Stella Wicha 24 Rita Wicha 19 TRY - Find a grave - FREE SITE - volunteer site all states; frequently has headstone pic DO NOT SEARCH FOR A MARRIED WOMAN USING HER MAIDEN NAME. http://www.worldvitalrecords.com/ Try Vital Records - Birth, Marriage, & Death, Social Security Info., Census Records - FREE ALL STATES http://search.labs.familysearch.org/ Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: balrog_99 Surnames: Wicha, Evison Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/19035/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for any information on the Wicha family from Wayne, Michigan. Alternate spellings are in parentheses. The earliest ancestor I know of is Klemens (Clemens) Wicha who was born in Poland in 1893 (possibly my great-granduncle). At some point hes settled in Wayne, Michigan. He married Agnes Belenzie (Belenzyr) on 10 Nov 1914. They had three children (that I know of): Stella (b. 1916), Josephine (b. 1918) and Rita Marie (1920-2007). Rita married William George Evison (1916-1991) and they had four children (that I have discovered so far). They are James W. (b. 1942), Cynthia Gayle, Jeanne Diane and Lee Earle. This is all I know of at the present time. If anyone has any information on any of these family members (especially present day ones), I would be most grateful. N.B. at some point in my family, the spelling was changed from Wicha to Wiecha. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: steamboatfrannie Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/19034/mb.ashx Message Board Post: looking for information on what German Lutheran churches were available in the Springwells Twp of 1880. I have been told that St Stephen's originated in 1890 and wondered what Lutheran churches existed before that date. Has anyone had any luck contacting the Missouri Synod or the Concordia Institute for old records? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vkoselka50 Surnames: Urban, Kulwicki Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/7490.2.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Michael Urban was married to Elizabeth Kulwicki, daughter of Martin Kulwicki, the first Polish undertaker in Detroit. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.