This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MaryLynne43 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/17919.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have found a Johanna Pokriefke married to John Klebba (b. 1864 in Prussia). They are in the 1920 census on Williams St in the 12th ward with a son Alfred. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: markthagan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/17923.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi. Sorry to 'hijack' this discussion but, Georgia1910, you say you lived in Dearborn? I have been trying to trace descendants of relatives who lived there and I have a last known address. What I don't know is if this address still exists. I couldn't find it online. The name & address is:- Jim Hagan 17401 Birwood Does that ring a bell as a valid address? Thanks for any help. Mark Hagan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

________________________________   Could you tell me if they give out Death Certificates for the 1990's ?  Would the Burton Historical Collections have them? They died in Redford and I am not sure if this is part of the Inter City of Detroit. Thanks Patsy      Message: 7 Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:53:26 -0000 From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [MIWAYNE] Wayne County Death Records 1921 - index? To: <MIWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <1255542808.721644@rootsweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RuthMcMahon62 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/17923.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There is a City of Detroit death index that begins in 1920.  It is held at the Detroit Public Library.  You can e-mail the Burton Historical Collection and request a search. The Wayne County clerk has a card index to deaths for the whole county EXCLUDING City of Detroit.  The index is by soundex code of surname, then alphabetical by first name.  It is inclusive of all deaths except the most recent that are computerized. Michigan vital records has an index for every year after 1914 that is alphabetical by surname. That is why they will only search 3 years unless you pay extra to cover more years. I am a professional genealogist in the Detroit area with 22 years experience. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.   Hi Ruth

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ldodds21 Surnames: dodds, traviss Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/5901.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: thank you. hope this Bob LAMB is still on line. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PatMcCormick5194 Surnames: Smith Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/7323.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for photos of his wife, Marie and one of John to supplement the article below. Roger rsl.genealogy.com. I hope this will help and that you can help me with the photos. MARIE GENERAL SMITH - FIRST LADY OF DETROIT By Kenneth A. Merique For many years there had been much conjecture regarding the ancestry of John W. Smith, former mayor of the city of Detroit. Smith, who was elected mayor of Detroit 4 November 1924 to fill the unexpired term of Frank Doremus and then was reelected 3 November 1925 for a two-year term, was long rumored to be of Polish lineage. It was, in fact, Marie General Smith, wife of the mayor, who was of Polish heritage. Marie General was born 13 December 1886 in Detroit, the daughter of John W. General, originally Jednoralski, and Rose Heinz (Hintz), both Austrian Poles. The General family were parishoners at St. Albertus Roman Catholic Church, Detroit, and Marie and her sisters, Rose and Elizabeth, and their brothers, John and Michael, attended St. Albertus School. The General Family resided at 1102 Dubois, Detroit, and prior to her marriage Marie was employed as a cigarmaker in one of Detroit's many east side cigar factories. In 1908 Marie General married John W. Smith, a man who was destined to have an illustrious career in Detroit politics. It was written that Smith had organized the Polish wards for Truman Newberry in the 1918 senate race against Henry Ford. This act could have been construed as one to benefit Smith's own ethnic group. The marriage of Marie General and John W. Smith produced two children: a daughter, Dorothy, and a son, John W. Smith, Jr. During this period, the Smith family became parishioners at St. Cecilia Roman Catholic Church, Detroit, and it was here that Dorothy Smith married George Michael Faust, 9 November 1940. Marie General Smith passed away Tuesday, 4 November 1941, at the family residence, 3538 Oakman Boulevard, Detroit. She was survived by her husband, John, daughter, Dorothy Faust, son, John W. Smith, Jr., brothers, John and Michael General, and sisters, Rose Staley and Elizabeth Patras, all of Detroit. Marie General Smith's funeral mass was conducted at St. Cecilia Church with interment following at Mount Olivet Cemetery, Detroit. Shortly after her death, the newly-widowed mayor lost both his son and daughter. Grief stricken, the mayor succumbed 17 June 1942 in Detroit. Within a seven-month period, the entire immediate family had passed away. Smith was laid to rest beside his wife at Mount Olivet Cemetery. Copyrighted by the Polish Genealogical Society of Michigan (I am Editor) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RuthMcMahon62 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/5901.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Michigan marriages 1868-1925 are on Pilot.Familysearch.org Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Georgia1910 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/17924.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: >From the State of Michigan vital records department: Birth records are restricted in Michigan and only a person or parent named on the record or a court-appointed legal guardian of the person named on the record may request a copy of a birth record that is LESS than 100 years old. A legally licensed representative is eligible to request a copy if he/she represents the person named on the record. An heir may request a copy of a birth record LESS than 100 years old if they can provide an out-of-state death certificate or the death information if it was a Michigan death with the request. Anyone can request a birth record that is OVER 100 years old as they are no longer restricted documents. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Georgia1910 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/17923.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Are you sure that she died in Wayne County? If she died in Detroit, the County won't have her death certificate. If she died in a hospital, it seems more likely that she was in Detroit. I think for that time period there were more hospitals in Detroit than in the suburbs. Following is a list of hospitals. Even though it is from 1967, you can see how many are in Detroit compared to the surrounding suburbs. We lived in Dearborn but four of my sisters were born in a Detroit hospital as were many of my cousins. This would be from about 1946 through the 1960s. http://wayne.migenweb.net/wayhospitals.htm She could also have been visiting someone in another county or country (Canada is just across the river). If it was the summer time, she may have been up north. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: genealchemist Surnames: Smith Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/17923.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks Ruth. What vexes me then is why the Wayne County Clerk said there was no record. My hunch is that there were too many Elizabeth Smith results for that year, and they didn't thoroughly check each one. If some piece of information I provided was wrong (like location of death - I gave them a few options), then they may just not have even bothered to look into the record in more detail. I forgot to get the record when I was at the county clerk office last month. It's easier to talk with them about what they're finding as they do it. With the mail, they just send you a response without explanation of what they found. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ldodds21 Surnames: dodds, traviss Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/17924/mb.ashx Message Board Post: could sks lookup the birth record for Margaret TRAVISS born 1918 in Wayne Co., parents George and Elva TRAVISS. thanks for help Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ldodds21 Surnames: dodds, traviss Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/5901.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: are you still on line?? I am looking for information on George L. TRAVISS married 1915 to Elva DODDS and then he married Mildred. any help appreciated. looking for info on first marriage Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ThomasKer2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/17919.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm not related to this family. Detroit, Michigan Directory, 1890 Name: Anthony Kutny Location 2: 107 Hale Occupation: tailor Year: 1890, 1891 City: Detroit State: MI 1880 - Name: Anthony Gutny [Anthony Kutny] Home in 1880: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Birthplace: Poland Relation to Head of Household: Son Father's Name: Joseph Father's birthplace: Poland Mother's Name: Teressa Mother's birthplace: Poland Occupation: Tailor Marital Status: Single Race: White Gender: Male Joseph Gutny 55, Poland - tailor, cannot read or write Teressa Gutny 55, Poland - tailor, cannot read or write Anthony Gutny 16, Poland - tailor Francis Gutny 15, Poland - works @ tailor shop Frank Gutny 24, Poland - cigar maker 1900 - Name: Anthony Kutny [Anthoney Kutny] Home in 1900: Detroit Ward 9, Wayne, Michigan Age: 35 Birth Date: Aug 1864 Birthplace: Germany Race: White Ethnicity: American Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1871 Relationship to Head of House: Head Father's Birthplace: Germany Mother's Birthplace: Germany Spouse's Name: Auguste Marriage year: 1889 Marital Status: Married Years Married: 11 Residence : Detroit City, Wayne, Michigan Occupation: tailor Anthony Kutny 35 Auguste Kutny 31, 3/69 - immigrated 1871; married 11 yrs Florian Kutny 9, 8/90 MI - son Laura Kutny 7, 6/92 MI Edward Kutny 6, 3/94 MI Henry Kutny 3, 11/96 MI 1910 - Name: Anthony Rutny [Anthony Kutny] Age in 1910: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Birthplace: Germany Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place: Germany Mother's Birth Place: Germany Spouse's Name: Auguste Home in 1910: Detroit Ward 17, Wayne, Michigan Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Year of Immigration: 1872 Anthony Rutny 45 = tailor Auguste Rutny 40, GER - married 20 yrs; 8 children Florian Rutny 19, MI Lama Rutny 17, MI Edward Rutny 16, MI Henry Rutny 13, MI Walter Rutny 7, MI Eleanor Rutny 5, MI Amanda Rutny 2, MI Mildred Rutny 3/12, MI 1930 - Name: Florian Kutney Home in 1930: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 Birthplace: Michigan Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Ellen E Race: White Occupation: leather finisher @ tannery Military service: NO Age at first marriage: 21 Parents' birthplace: MI/Ger Florian Kutney 39 Ellen E Kutney 37, Canada - Age at first marriage: 19 Bernadine M Kutney 3 2/12, MI World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Name: Florian Kutney City: Detroit County: Wayne State: Michigan Birthplace: Detroit, Michigan Birth Date: 7 Aug 1890 Race: Caucasian (White) occ: foreman @ Armstrong Tanning Co. single World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Name: Henry C Kutney City: Detroit County: Wayne State: Michigan Birthplace: Wyandotte, Michigan Birth Date: 9 Nov 1896 NOK: Anthony Kutney occ: larorer @ Pakard Motor Car Co. World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Name: Edward Joseph Kutney City: Detroit County: Wayne State: Michigan Birthplace: detroit, Michigan Birth Date: 18 Mar 1894 Race: Caucasian (White) occ: carbureator assembler @ Michigan Lubricator Co. married 1 child 1920 - Name: Edward J Kutney Home in 1920: Detroit Ward 19, Wayne, Michigan Age: 25 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895 Birthplace: Michigan Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Marie Father's Birth Place: Germany Mother's Birth Place: Michigan Marital Status: Married Race: White Sex: Male Home owned: Rent Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Edward J Kutney 25, MI - corset tailor Marie Kutney 23, MI Jeanette Kutney 3 10/12, MI 1920 - Name: Anthony Kutney Home in 1920: Detroit Ward 19, Wayne, Michigan Age: 55 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Birthplace: Germany Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place: Germany Mother's Birth Place: Germany Marital Status: Widow Race: White Sex: Male Home owned: Rent Year of Immigration: 1871 Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Anthony Kutney 55, GER - tailor Lloyd Kutney 29, MI - Tanner Henry Kutney 22, MI - draftsman @ auto factory Walter Kutney 19, MI - appr. draftsman @ auto factory Elinor Kutney 15, MI Manda Kutney 12, MI Mildred Kutney 10, MI Death record - County: Wayne City/village/township: Detroit Last Name: Kutny Given Name: Frank Birth Year: Feb. 11, 1883 Age: 33 Death Day: 11 Death Month: Apr Death Year: 1916 Father's Given Name: Frank Father's Last Name: Kutny cause of death - TB of lungs occ: cigar maker informant: Mrs. Nettie Kutny Death record - daughter to Frank Sr. Kutny County: Wayne City/village/township: Detroit Last Name: Kutny Given Name: Francis Birth Year: Oct. 6, 1912 Death Day: 12 Death Month: Jul Death Year: 1912 Father's Given Name: Frank Father's Last Name: Kutny cause of death - convulsions Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RuthMcMahon62 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/17923.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There is a City of Detroit death index that begins in 1920. It is held at the Detroit Public Library. You can e-mail the Burton Historical Collection and request a search. The Wayne County clerk has a card index to deaths for the whole county EXCLUDING City of Detroit. The index is by soundex code of surname, then alphabetical by first name. It is inclusive of all deaths except the most recent that are computerized. Michigan vital records has an index for every year after 1914 that is alphabetical by surname. That is why they will only search 3 years unless you pay extra to cover more years. I am a professional genealogist in the Detroit area with 22 years experience. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: genealchemist Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/17923/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, I have an ancestor who died in 1921, one year too late for the SeekingMichigan database of death certificates! I was wondering if there is any index to 1921 deaths in Wayne County? How does the Wayne County Clerk look up a 1921 death certificate? Do they have their own index? Do they have to browse by locality? Similarly, how does Michigan State look up the death certificates for 1921? Thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: amidd67 Surnames: DeCorte, Nowak Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/4502.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello. Are you related to Vincent and Maryanna Nowak who immigrated from Poland to the US in 1888? They lived in Bay City, Michigan. Do you have any photos of them? I have some photos of Maryanna at an older age, but would like some younger ones. I have a large family tree with much documentation and many photos at Ancestry.com. I live in Bay City. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello, Wayne County probate files to 1900 were filmed by LDS. The Archives of Michigan has the films and offers a copy service. The Detroit Police have told me that theit records were water damaged and thrown away. I question this as this summer there was a newspaper article about saving some old files and discarding the rest. Search the Detroit Free Press archives for the article. You should check with the Wayne County coroner. They may have information. Ruth McMahon AG® Professional Genealogist Detroit MI area Lisa Haerens wrote: > Hello! > > > > I have a couple questions regarding probate and police records. Both of > these events took place in the city of Detroit. > > > > First: I have the file number of the will when Francis Schulte died in > 1869. My question is this. where do I see the actual documents? > > > > Second: August Schulte was found floating in the Detroit river one early > morning in 1881 after being missing for a couple days. Per the newspaper > report, as there was no evidence of violence on his person his death was > deemed a suicide. I am imagining the police were involved. do any of these > old reports still exist, and where would I go to look? > > > > Thanks for your help and your suggestions! > > > > Lisa Haerens > > > > Searching for: Schulte, Raass, Ostrowski, Asmann, Hallman, Hincka, Kessler, > Lackowsky, Kwart > > > > "It's time to start living the life you've imagined."-- Henry James > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hello! I have a couple questions regarding probate and police records. Both of these events took place in the city of Detroit. First: I have the file number of the will when Francis Schulte died in 1869. My question is this. where do I see the actual documents? Second: August Schulte was found floating in the Detroit river one early morning in 1881 after being missing for a couple days. Per the newspaper report, as there was no evidence of violence on his person his death was deemed a suicide. I am imagining the police were involved. do any of these old reports still exist, and where would I go to look? Thanks for your help and your suggestions! Lisa Haerens Searching for: Schulte, Raass, Ostrowski, Asmann, Hallman, Hincka, Kessler, Lackowsky, Kwart "It's time to start living the life you've imagined."-- Henry James

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: genealchemist Surnames: Smith, Miller Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/17922/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I was wondering who would have the records for burials in Martinsville Cemetery? Who operates that cemetery? I am related to Elizabeth Smith (nee Miller) who is buried in the big Smith plot in the back left of the cemetery. The tombstone says she died in 1921, but I'd like to know what month or day. I tried to submit a death certificate request to the Wayne County Clerk but they returned it with no record found. I think they just didn't do a good search through 1921 for Elizabeth Smith. I figured if I can find a more precise date, at least a month, I could try again with them. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I've "rescued" an old photograph identified as Ida EBERLE which was taken at the Van Sickle Studio in Chicago, Illinois. The photograph appears to have been taken in the 1880's with Ida likely in her teens or 20's at the time. In addition to her name, someone has also written "Cousin" and "Mrs. Robert STELLS" and "died in Detroit, buried in Canada, Trinity Church Yard, 2 miles out of Morpeth (hard to read), Ontario". The writing is difficult to read as someone has written over the top of a portion of it as if in an attempt to correct spelling. I am guessing that she was married to Robert STELLS, though the last name is difficult to make out. I am hoping to locate someone from Ida's family so that this wonderful old photograph can be returned to the care of her family. If you are a member of this family, or you know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SharonSue69 Surnames: Roesentreter Perse Nielson Ecorse Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/17693.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you very much for sharing that. We need all the info we can gather on this msg board. ssm Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.