Not in the house, but able to be IM'd. I forwarded the death certificate scan to my niece (an internist, and not into genealogy). At first she thought it was something else (cardiac dextro position--a valid diagnosis), but that didn't really make sense to her. Then she decided on "cardiac decompensation". It's not a diagnosis she can use now, but she googled death certificates from around 1929, and found some listing that as the cause of death. She said heart failure and kidney failure go hand-in-hand, so it makes sense with the primary cause of death. The difficulty was that the doctor separated the 2nd word. I hope this helps. Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Martin" <illinoisgenie@gmail.com> To: MIWAYNE@rootsweb.com, "Joseph Martin" <illinoisgenie@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 12:56:36 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [MIWAYNE] Help: Medical Term Is there a doctor in the house?? I have a death certificate which indicates the cause of death was chronic interstitial nephritis. I know what that is. The contributory cause looks like "cardiac dumnin pussition," but I am sure that is a correct spelling. Could anyone help with what the seconday cause should be? Thank you. Joseph Martin Romeoville, Illinois -- "Don't take yourself so seriously. No one else does!" ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you, Chris. This is wonderful. And please thank your niece for me. Joseph On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Chris Bauman <chris.bauman@comcast.net>wrote: > Not in the house, but able to be IM'd. I forwarded the death certificate > scan to my niece (an internist, and not into genealogy). At first she > thought it was something else (cardiac dextro position--a valid diagnosis), > but that didn't really make sense to her. Then she decided on "cardiac > decompensation". It's not a diagnosis she can use now, but she googled death > certificates from around 1929, and found some listing that as the cause of > death. She said heart failure and kidney failure go hand-in-hand, so it > makes sense with the primary cause of death. > > The difficulty was that the doctor separated the 2nd word. I hope this > helps. > > Christine > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joseph Martin" <illinoisgenie@gmail.com> > To: MIWAYNE@rootsweb.com, "Joseph Martin" <illinoisgenie@gmail.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 12:56:36 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: [MIWAYNE] Help: Medical Term > > Is there a doctor in the house?? > > I have a death certificate which indicates the cause of death was chronic > interstitial nephritis. I know what that is. > > The contributory cause looks like "cardiac dumnin pussition," but I am sure > that is a correct spelling. > > Could anyone help with what the seconday cause should be? > > Thank you. > > Joseph Martin > Romeoville, Illinois > > -- > "Don't take yourself so seriously. No one else does!" > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "Don't take yourself so seriously. No one else does!"

This makes me want to bombard their server from 121 sites from all members and really mess with them. -----Original Message----- From: miwayne-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:miwayne-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jan Cortez Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 3:28 PM To: miwayne@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MIWAYNE] Rare and out-of-print family genealogy and HistoryBooks. Sounds like an advertisement to me as well, particularly when it has been on 147 lists now. If this had come thru the list instead of the message boards, I would be unsubscribing this person. Instead, I went to the website this person advertises and sent them the following message: "Due to the very large annoyance this Suzie4ever is making of herself/himself on all the mailing lists from coast to coast, I will NEVER EVER purchase anything from your website. Suzie4ever is nothing but an advertising scam. Color me disgusted. Jan List Administrator ----- Original Message ----- From: "C. Michael Eliasz" <mike@eliasz.com> To: <MIWAYNE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 5:30 AM Subject: [MIWAYNE] Rare and out-of-print family genealogy and History Books. > In a NY genealogy group, when they posted, another genealogist, said they > had a D- rating form the Better Business Bureau. Why are you going around > to all genealogy groups? > > This sounds like advertisement. Buyer beware. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sounds like an advertisement to me as well, particularly when it has been on 147 lists now. If this had come thru the list instead of the message boards, I would be unsubscribing this person. Instead, I went to the website this person advertises and sent them the following message: "Due to the very large annoyance this Suzie4ever is making of herself/himself on all the mailing lists from coast to coast, I will NEVER EVER purchase anything from your website. Suzie4ever is nothing but an advertising scam. Color me disgusted. Jan List Administrator ----- Original Message ----- From: "C. Michael Eliasz" <mike@eliasz.com> To: <MIWAYNE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 5:30 AM Subject: [MIWAYNE] Rare and out-of-print family genealogy and History Books. > In a NY genealogy group, when they posted, another genealogist, said they > had a D- rating form the Better Business Bureau. Why are you going around > to all genealogy groups? > > This sounds like advertisement. Buyer beware. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is there a doctor in the house?? I have a death certificate which indicates the cause of death was chronic interstitial nephritis. I know what that is. The contributory cause looks like "cardiac dumnin pussition," but I am sure that is a correct spelling. Could anyone help with what the seconday cause should be? Thank you. Joseph Martin Romeoville, Illinois -- "Don't take yourself so seriously. No one else does!"

In a NY genealogy group, when they posted, another genealogist, said they had a D- rating form the Better Business Bureau. Why are you going around to all genealogy groups? This sounds like advertisement. Buyer beware.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ThomasKer2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/18065.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm not related to this family. 1900 - Name: Elsie R Koch Home in 1900: Sylvan, Washtenaw, Michigan Age: 2 Birth Date: Jul 1897 Birthplace: Michigan Race: White Gender: Female Relationship to Head of House: Daughter Father's Name: Jacob F Father's Birthplace: Germany Mother's Name: Jacobena Mother's Birthplace: Germany Marital Status: Single Residence : Sylvan Township (Excl. Chelsea Village), Washtenaw, Michigan Jacob F Koch 48, 10/51 GER - works on farm, immigrated 1882 Jacobena Koch 44, 2/56 GER - 10 children, married 23 yr Agness C Koch 9, 6/90 MI Edward E Koch 8, 5/92 MI Pauline C Koch 5, 8/94 MI Elsie R Koch 2, 7/97 MI Anna R Koch 8/12, 2/99 MI 1910 & 1920 Elsie is not listed Cannot find any Koch family member 1930 - Name: George E Fox Home in 1930: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan Age: 33 Estimated birth year: abt 1897 Birthplace: Canada Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's name: Elsie R Race: White Occupation: dry cleaning salesman Military service: YES WWI Age at first marriage: 24 Parents' birthplace: IRE/Canada George E Fox 33 Elsie R Fox 32, Mi - Age at first marriage: 23 Betty J Fox 8, MI Beatrice M Kach 9, MI = niece [aka Koch] World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Name: George E Fox City: Detroit County: Wayne State: Michigan Birthplace: Strathray, Ontario; Canada Birth Date: 1 Jul 1896 dated: 6/5/18 appears to be single Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dmchandler1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/18071.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for the information--- it gives me hope that I may still find one. He was buried in the Ferndale Cemetery. I called them and their information was very brief. I called the funeral home that was listed on the death certificate but they didn't keep very good records for that time period. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BPolito3965 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/18071.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I think that the News Herald located in Southgate, MI covers most of the Downriver Area. Do a google search for the address. Also try the Bacon Memorial Library in Wyandotte, MI they have local newspapers. One thing to keep in mind is that not everyone has a obit published it is usually up to the family and funeral director have it published. Alos try Woodmere Cemetery as a lot of downriver people are buried there. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Another thing to bear in mind is that many people do not put an obit in the newspaper for a variety of reasons. Niceta Milner

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dmchandler1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/18071/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Is there a local paper in the River Rouge, MI area? I have had the library do a search for an obituary in the Detroit News and the Detroit Free Press and he wasn't in either of those. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Rjenki961 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/18064.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Oh, ok... I understand now! Thank you! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Georgia1910 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/18064.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes, that is what I said that there were no newspapers from Nov 1967 to August 1968 but those were The Detroit News and The Detroit Free Press which were on strike. The local papers were available if I remember correctly. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: FawnLaffin69 Surnames: Ebere,Nowak,Carey,Ebare Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/18069/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for some family members of mine who moved to Detroit Michigan. Some are buried and died there, not sure if Michigan has online obituarys or Newspapers. Bella (Isabella) Marie Ebere married a MacLellan in Ontario Canada, She moved her children (Well some of them) on April 1917 to Detroit Wayne County Michigan. (All Her children where bornin Ontario Canada. Her Children Where: 1. Alexander Eddie MacLellan 1908- March 2 1965 in Detroit Wayne COunty Michigan. Married Violet Carey 1910- June 20 1989 in West Branch, Ogemaw County Michigan USA. 2. Donald Clifford MacLellan 1909- December 29 1995, Pinellas Flordia USA. Married 1st: Jeanette 1909 Illinois USA died unknown. had 1 child. - Donald MacLellan b1929 Detroit Wayne COunty Michigan Married 2nd: Sadonia Neoma Ebear 1912- 18 Aug 1997 in Pinellas, Florida, United States They had Children. I Only know of 3 but there where 6 children all together. - Michael Edward MacLellan Birth 20 Feb 1934 in Detroit, Wayne Co., MI Death 03 Jan 1984 in Carleton, Ash Township, Michigan, USA. - Donna MacLellan Birth 24 Jan 1941 Death 15 Aug 1975 in Michigan. - Gordon Frederick MacLellan Birth 02 Aug 1945 in Detroit, Wayne Co., MI Death 10 Nov 1975 in Eastern Lake Superior, Canada on The Edmund Fitzgerald 3. Florence Mary B MacLellan born 1911 4. Francis MacLellan born 1913 5. Walter Frederick MacLellan born 1915. Bella Ebere MacLellan in Aug 16 1921 in Detroit Waynce COunty Michigan remarried a Ferdinand Nowak Birth 1 Dec 1894 in Springwells Township, Wayne Michigan USA Death July 1967 in Sears, Osceola, Michigan, United States of America. Would like to find out where Bella died and is buried. Any help at all would be great, Obituarys, Cemetery Information if any. Marriage Information. Thanks so much and I hope some can help have hit a brick wall. You can reach me at Fawnsfamilytree@hotmail.com. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: H_Schall Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/17835.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The Frank Ruszala that I am looking for had only 1 child a daughter named Helen. The family may have lived for a time in Detroit but Frank Ruszala that I am looking for spend his last years living in Hamtramck Michigan (in the center of Detroit). I believe this person to be related on my grandfather Adam Skalski's side of the family and I have not had much luck in locating any other relatives. We could be related but at this point I am not sure. Helen Ruszala went on to marry and her married name was Balow. Let me know if you think the Franks are related. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vdemare1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/18068/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Caroline Carrie Leeak section - Ferndale , range 7, grave 41 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: silvercelica78 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/17835.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Not sure if you even still check this. I had a great grampa named Frank Ruszala born in 1884 w a wife named Anna who came to New York in 1919 from Nowa Wies, Austria and had sons name Francis and Joe not sure about a Helen. They lived in Detroit. I have the immigration papers if this is who you are looking for? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Rjenki961 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/18064.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Wasn't it during the summer of 68 that there were no newspapers? that's when their daughter died so maybe there is no obituary for her in existence. Not sure how that would have been handled. I found my aunt's in a local PA paper so I no longer need it. I'm still hoping to find my Uncle's. He died in 1985. I will check the link you sent. Thanks! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

No Newspapers were published for these dates due to Workers Strikes December 1 1955 thru January 15 1956 April 12 1962 thru May 10 1962 July 22 1964 thru November 22 1964 November 16 1967 thru August 8 1968 Detroit - 1967 Riots Sunday, July 23, 1967 to Thursday, July 27, 1967

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Georgia1910 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/18064.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Try the Downriver Genealogical Society about any local newspapers for Wyandotte. Go to the following, click on officers and try the President. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~midrgs/drgs.htm The Detroit newspapers on online for death notices from August or July 2001. Oops,just checked to see if I was right and it appears that they no longer have 2001. Anyway for current notices, go to www.detnews.com and scroll down to the bottom and select "death notices". We didn't have newspapers for nine months. I was reading the Chicago papers that I bought at the bookstore. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.