This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: genealchemist Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/18083.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for the reply. I guess that's sort of my question. I thought there was always a review of a person's assets and liabilities. Wouldn't there have to be some examination of a person's financial status if they didn't have a will? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

-----Original Message----- From: bhurst1948@aol.com To: miwayne@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, Mar 28, 2010 11:38 am Subject: Re: [MIWAYNE] Mental Hospitals Interesting. I went with a friend in the late 1970's to visit her mother who was in the mental ward there for schizophrenia. It was an old dreary building. It was scary!! Narrow hallways with locked gateways and small rooms with people in them. We were in a big community room surrounded by mentally ill people. It was quite an experience. -----Original Message----- From: Joyce Stevens <joycestevens@twmi.rr.com> To: miwayne@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, Mar 28, 2010 11:30 am Subject: Re: [MIWAYNE] Mental Hospitals Eloise Hospital had indigents sent there in the late fifties and early sixties, the 1900's but the City of Detroit Welfare Department.I don't know how far back that practice went. One of my first jobs after graduating was there. I think I remember Detroit getting out of the welfare business. Detroit at one point had lost of money, but then didn't. Wayne County took over as other City agencies were turned over to them. Eventually the functions became the responsibility of the State. The Detroit Welfare Intake Office on East Jefferson is long gone. Eloise was located in a comples of buildings locate on Michigan Avenue just east of Merriman Road on the northeast corner. Only single males were sent, an effort to save money by the City. Eloise was named after the daughter, probably of the first superintendent. The lobby had a picture of her dog, a Saint Bernard. Wish I knew where it is now. I'd love to have it. -----Original Message----- From: miwayne-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:miwayne-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of bhurst1948@aol.com Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 9:36 AM To: MIWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MIWAYNE] Mental Hospitals There was also Elouise Hospital - which was still open in the 1970's - not sure if it is today. It was in or near the city of Wayne. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Eloise Hospital had indigents sent there in the late fifties and early sixties, the 1900's but the City of Detroit Welfare Department.I don't know how far back that practice went. One of my first jobs after graduating was there. I think I remember Detroit getting out of the welfare business. Detroit at one point had lost of money, but then didn't. Wayne County took over as other City agencies were turned over to them. Eventually the functions became the responsibility of the State. The Detroit Welfare Intake Office on East Jefferson is long gone. Eloise was located in a comples of buildings locate on Michigan Avenue just east of Merriman Road on the northeast corner. Only single males were sent, an effort to save money by the City. Eloise was named after the daughter, probably of the first superintendent. The lobby had a picture of her dog, a Saint Bernard. Wish I knew where it is now. I'd love to have it. -----Original Message----- From: miwayne-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:miwayne-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of bhurst1948@aol.com Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 9:36 AM To: MIWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MIWAYNE] Mental Hospitals There was also Elouise Hospital - which was still open in the 1970's - not sure if it is today. It was in or near the city of Wayne. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There was also Elouise Hospital - which was still open in the 1970's - not sure if it is today. It was in or near the city of Wayne.

If there is anyone on the list who would do an obit lookup, I would greatly appreciate an obit on the subject below. CLARENCE STONE 05 Dec 1897 Nov 1984 48210 (Detroit, Wayne, MI) (none specified) 565-05-2582 California ron

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Slybury2 Surnames: Jasinski Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/3040.3099.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes, I will try to get that death certificate. But I can tell you I have been searching for any clues of her existence, and there is not much. Yes, I looked on the Michigan deaths and no luck. Thanks for your help! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Georgia1910 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/3040.3099.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If you know for sure that she died in 1974, write for her death certificate from the State of Michigan. Should have the place where she died. Cost is either $26 or $27. May want to see if Northville issues death certificates. If they do and she died at Northville, it will be less expensive. If you are not sure of her DOD and you have access to Ancestry.com, there is an index to Michigan Deaths from 1971-1996 but there are some errors in it. If the name is uncommon, it may be misspelled or mistranscribed. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Georgia1910 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/18083.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I had two great grandparents who died intestate and their records were listed in the probate records for Wayne County 1797-1901. The Mormon Church has the indices and the probate records. I am pretty sure that the index is in the Burton Historical Collection of the main Detroit Public Library but not sure if the records are. Ditto for the State Archives which are now part of the Department of Natural Resource. http://www.detroit.lib.mi.us/burton/burton_index.htm http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-153-54463_54475_18660---,00.html Maybe he had nothing in his estate or didn't owe anyone any money? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: chronic_student Surnames: Classification: cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/18084/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I will be headed to Union Chapel Cemetery in Inkster, MI (near the Dearborn border) in mid-April 2010 to photograph some family grave stones (Hiveley, Bills). If anyone needs it, I can grab some digital photos or do some transcriptions while I'm there. Please post here by April 10 with what you need and pay it forward by helping out someone else when you can. I'll complete as many requests as time permits. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: skyehope1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/3040.3099.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Just a bit of info. I believe the Northville site is closed , but still standing. You may want to contact their local historical group and also the Detroit Society for Genealogical Research, they should be able to tell you about any other mental hospitals in and around Detroit.If you could find out who ran the hospital they may still have the records. Good luck, Sharon Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

In the olden days, east side Detroit residents were committed to Ypsilanti State Hospital; west siders went to Northville State. Never understood the reasoning, but that is the way it was. -----Original Message----- From: miwayne-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:miwayne-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:33 PM To: MIWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MIWAYNE] State / Mental Hospital / Sanitariums of Detroit area This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: skyehope1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.w ayne/3040.3099.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Just a bit of info. I believe the Northville site is closed , but still standing. You may want to contact their local historical group and also the Detroit Society for Genealogical Research, they should be able to tell you about any other mental hospitals in and around Detroit.If you could find out who ran the hospital they may still have the records. Good luck, Sharon Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ThomasKer2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/18082.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm not related to this person. Wayne County does not permit public browsing of birth, death, or marriage records. You will need to order the death cert. Parents names should be on the death cert BUT only if the informant knew that info. **************************************************************** Person MUST have died within the Detroit city limits. Q. Where do I go to get a birth certificate or death certificate? A. The Detroit Health Department, Vital Records Division, Herman Kiefer Health Complex, 1151 Taylor (zip 48202-1732) near the John C. Lodge expressway. The phone numbers are 313-876-4049 [recorded message] and 313-876-4133. Person must have died in Wayne County, Michigan & within the city limits of Detroit. Cost is $20.00. Call first before ordering as pricing may have changed. Hours are 8 - 4pm Eastern time SHARP Mon - Fri. FREE parking. Cash, certified check, money order are accepted. A walk-in service is available. Public browsing of the records is not permitted. Make payment to - City of Detroit. Personal checks or credit/debit cards are not accepted. Wayne County excluding Detroit but within Wayne county, Michigan Cost is $22.00 [pricing may have changed] Cathy M. Garrett- Clerk of Wayne County C/o Birth and Death Records Division 201 Coleman A. Young Municipal Center Detroit, Mi 48226 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BSz19 Surnames: Szulczewski Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/18082/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm hoping someone can look up the information on a death record for me. I'm trying to find if this man might be a brother to my husband's great grandfather, Thomas Szulczewski. His name is: Anthony Szulczewski and he was living in Detroit Michigan in the 1920 census with his wife, Stella, and children; Mary 29yr, Francis 27yr, and John 24yr. I found that he died in Detroit and he was transported to St Joseph County, IN on either 2-25-1926 or 2-26-1925. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ThomasKer2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/18081.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I"m not related to this family. You really haven't supplied any useful search info other than the names. Need DOB birthplace for Olga and John Roloff. 1930 is the last available census at this time. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kristybeyer1 Surnames: Burkhard, Roloff Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/18081/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My father, John Douglas Burkhard, parents Olga Burkhard (maiden name unknown) and John Roloff were not married, I believe was born at Wayne Memorial Hospital, in Wayne, Michigan. Both parents have passed away. I am looking for any information on the parents, especially the father. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: hslawblm Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/18079.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank You! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ThomasKer2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/18079.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Death cert only says - removal of body to Howell Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

try using google.com and type in "cemeteries in howell mi" I got a number of various listings including the City of. Under the community Services tab found Parks and Cemetery but when looked at didn't see cemetery information. I start here and would either call or email the parks department or contact the clerk's office. You should be able to find the person responsible for cemetery information without too much trouble. I would also follow up with some of the others as well as any church related cemeteries. Fortunately, Howell is still a fairly small area. I don't have the link but know on the Lib of Mi site there was a link to a listing of cemeteries around the State as well as a map. No contact information but locations. This is from a map book and cemetery book they published many years ago. It is an excellent reference. Happy Hunting, marge -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: MIWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Mar 24, 2010 8:31 pm Subject: Re: [MIWAYNE] Need death date and Cemetery for Reuben and Thirza M. Green This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: hslawblm urnames: Green lassification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/18079.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do you know in what cemetery in Howell, MI they might be buried? erhaps if Thirza Green is buried there, it might give a death date? Important Note: he author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like o reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond n the board. ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: hslawblm Surnames: Green Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/18079.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do you know in what cemetery in Howell, MI they might be buried? Perhaps if Thirza Green is buried there, it might give a death date? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: hslawblm Surnames: Green Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.michigan.counties.wayne/18079.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you so much for the death date and info! Reuben was the son of Adolphus and his wife Elethear Green and Elethear would have only been in her 40s when he was born. (My youngest child was born when I was 45.) I do not know what happened to Thirza in 1910 but maybe Buried in Howell, MI with Reuben?? I have seen her name as both Thirza M. , Thurza M. and Theressa M. I do not know what her maiden name is?? I really appreciate the info!!!!! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.