Some day I would like to go over there to take a look a the different places. Marti did I tell you you can find our family tree info at http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=pabst2 You will find Judy and I as James Flavil Montgomery and Judith Ann Shuck. If you would care to take a look Happy Huntin Cuz Jim M. Marti3543@aol.com wrote: > yes, I had found it. First found them in Stollsteimers book in tax > rolls, then went down each person in Scio township. It just lists > Mammel no initial. There also was a Ernst Gottlieb Mammel who was > married in Washtenaw and had a child or two that is listed in Scio > Church records. Gottlieb Frederick is a sponsor of one child. > > The Mammel family seemed to move to another county or township each > census, so it took a long time to find them. In fact I am still > trying to find Anna Barbara, and Frederick after 1880. Hopefully > Bethel Church records can shed some light on where Gottlieb is buried > and Maria. > > It was a thrill to be in Kuppingen, Herrenberg Germany in October to > see where Gottlieb and family lived before coming to America. I also > met some members of the family (very distant) who still live there. > > Thanks > Cuz Marti