Where did you find pension files? Samuella :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bushy Hartman" <mihartman@homexpressway.net> To: <MIWASHTE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 4:36 AM Subject: [MIWASHTE] Schumacher/Crosby/Walling/Taylor solving a mystery > Hello all, > I just received the pension file on Christian Schumacher who married > Jennette (Taylor) Walling. This line has been very confusing to say the > least so this inch thick pension file which was chock full of information > verified some of the information that wonderful volunteers helped me locate. > I have documented up to Christian Schumacher who I will refer to for ease in > keeping them seperated as Jr but no where on any documents was he referred > to as such. I have Christian's death certificate but he was born too early > for a birth certificate. I am trying to find out positively who his parents > were. I feel it might be the Christian Sr. who was married to Ann M. or > Maria Ann but I have not found anything that I can document it with other > than the death certificate and that only confused matters. If there is > anyone out there who loves a great mystery I would love to hear from you > including those who were so wonderfully helpful before. I am sending this to > both counties since the family lived in both during their lifetimes. If you > connect or are interested in our web page concerning this family the url is > near the end of the email. > Thanks so much for any and all help you can provide. If you have any > suggestions on other documents I could send for please let me know. > Have a wonderful day > Bushy Hartman > ********************* > Item #1 > >From the pension file the following items were mentioned about the birth of > Christian Schumacher: > "My father was born was raised on Liberty and First streets" > [This provided by his daughter in a later letter but no mention of his > parents names or his actual birth date. From the city directories Christian > b. 1828 was living on Liberty and Second Streets.] > ********************* > Item #2 > "brother in law by marriage" was on two documents signed by Christian > Schumacher and John Schumacher on affidavits for Jennett to receive the > pension once Christian her husband had died. > [How can a bro-in-law be named the same as the husband? Could this be her > father-in-law who was still living when his son died?] > ********************* > Item #3 > Death certificate has his parents as Christian Schumacher and Catherine > Schumacher both born in Germany. I did not find any other > Schumacher/Shoemakers in the same area and Catherine was married to > Frederick and mother of the Senior Christian who was married to Ann M. or > Maria Ann from death cards. Is it possible the person who provided the > information could of mistaken his father and grandmother names as his > parents? > ********************** > Item #4 > Census- I could not find in the census where Christian [Jr.] is living with > his family. > > ********************** > Item #5 > Mary Henderson who uncovered that Jennette Taylor married Peter B. Walling > and had three children Eudora, Ford and Eugene. Peter abandoned Jennette > which mentions this in the pension file and he took her children with him to > live in Wayne Co., MI before 1870 census with his parents. > The pension file contains a documents showing that: "Peter B. Walling was > admitted to the Insane Asylum on 10 Oct 1881 and died 17 Oct 1882." > Jennette claims there was a divorce but could not remember where her > ex-husband was living at the time and could not provide the divorce > documents. > The pension file contains: Jennette Taylor married Christian Schumacher[Jr.] > on 11 Jan 1866 in Smithfield Center, Washtenaw Co., MI. I have not sent for > this document yet is the location the correct county? > ********************* > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mcguirecuz/ > McGuire Cousins which also contains the Schumacher line along with several > others in separate ancestry files. There are scanned documents and some > photos along with headstone photos. > > Frederick Schumacher b. 2 Apr 1812 Ger.; d. 31 Dec 1849 > ..m. Catherine Afeichardt b. 8 Dec 1808 Ger.; d. 24 Jan 1875 > ...ch: Christian Schumacher b. 23 Dec 1828 Ger.; d. 13 May 1897 > .....m. Ann M. ____, b. 1833 Ger., d. > ......ch: Christian Schumacher b. 14 Oct 1844, Ann Arbor, Washtenaw Co., MI; > d. 15 Jul 1886, Jackson Co., MI > ..........m. Jennette (Taylor) Walling, b. Nov 1837 NY; d. 11 Jan 1866 > Jackson Co., MI > >

Samuella, I did it the old fashion way. I went to the NARA site http://www.archives.gov/ Nara And they have where you order for FREE order forms that take a couple of days to get to you. Then with the company information, I found mine on Ancestry.com, you send for the records but send no payment. They have a set payment of $37 no matter how many pages it contains. They can bill your credit card and will automatically start processing your order if you use a credit card but if you prefer check they will check to see if they have any records and tell you before you send payment. You receive a postcard stating it can take up to 60 or 90 days. I did very well with this one file since it was so large and so full of information. I will have my husband scan some of the pages onto the web page in the coming week and you can see actually what is provided in this one but they all vary with content of course. I have one ancestor that was in and out within one year so the record may not contain much so I do not wish to waste $37 and I already have documentation on his life. Another thing they also have indexes on many Native American tribes that might be of use. Take care Bushy Where did you find pension files? Samuella :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bushy Hartman" <mihartman@homexpressway.net> To: <MIWASHTE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 4:36 AM Subject: [MIWASHTE] Schumacher/Crosby/Walling/Taylor solving a mystery > Hello all, > I just received the pension file on Christian Schumacher who married > Jennette (Taylor) Walling. This line has been very confusing to say the > least so this inch thick pension file which was chock full of information > verified some of the information that wonderful volunteers helped me locate. > I have documented up to Christian Schumacher who I will refer to for ease in > keeping them seperated as Jr but no where on any documents was he referred > to as such. I have Christian's death certificate but he was born too early > for a birth certificate. I am trying to find out positively who his parents > were. I feel it might be the Christian Sr. who was married to Ann M. or > Maria Ann but I have not found anything that I can document it with other > than the death certificate and that only confused matters. If there is > anyone out there who loves a great mystery I would love to hear from you > including those who were so wonderfully helpful before. I am sending this to > both counties since the family lived in both during their lifetimes. If you > connect or are interested in our web page concerning this family the url is > near the end of the email. > Thanks so much for any and all help you can provide. If you have any > suggestions on other documents I could send for please let me know. > Have a wonderful day > Bushy Hartman > ********************* > Item #1 > >From the pension file the following items were mentioned about the birth of > Christian Schumacher: > "My father was born was raised on Liberty and First streets" > [This provided by his daughter in a later letter but no mention of his > parents names or his actual birth date. From the city directories Christian > b. 1828 was living on Liberty and Second Streets.] > ********************* > Item #2 > "brother in law by marriage" was on two documents signed by Christian > Schumacher and John Schumacher on affidavits for Jennett to receive the > pension once Christian her husband had died. > [How can a bro-in-law be named the same as the husband? Could this be her > father-in-law who was still living when his son died?] > ********************* > Item #3 > Death certificate has his parents as Christian Schumacher and Catherine > Schumacher both born in Germany. I did not find any other > Schumacher/Shoemakers in the same area and Catherine was married to > Frederick and mother of the Senior Christian who was married to Ann M. or > Maria Ann from death cards. Is it possible the person who provided the > information could of mistaken his father and grandmother names as his > parents? > ********************** > Item #4 > Census- I could not find in the census where Christian [Jr.] is living with > his family. > > ********************** > Item #5 > Mary Henderson who uncovered that Jennette Taylor married Peter B. Walling > and had three children Eudora, Ford and Eugene. Peter abandoned Jennette > which mentions this in the pension file and he took her children with him to > live in Wayne Co., MI before 1870 census with his parents. > The pension file contains a documents showing that: "Peter B. Walling was > admitted to the Insane Asylum on 10 Oct 1881 and died 17 Oct 1882." > Jennette claims there was a divorce but could not remember where her > ex-husband was living at the time and could not provide the divorce > documents. > The pension file contains: Jennette Taylor married Christian Schumacher[Jr.] > on 11 Jan 1866 in Smithfield Center, Washtenaw Co., MI. I have not sent for > this document yet is the location the correct county? > ********************* > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mcguirecuz/ > McGuire Cousins which also contains the Schumacher line along with several > others in separate ancestry files. There are scanned documents and some > photos along with headstone photos. > > Frederick Schumacher b. 2 Apr 1812 Ger.; d. 31 Dec 1849 > ..m. Catherine Afeichardt b. 8 Dec 1808 Ger.; d. 24 Jan 1875 > ...ch: Christian Schumacher b. 23 Dec 1828 Ger.; d. 13 May 1897 > .....m. Ann M. ____, b. 1833 Ger., d. > ......ch: Christian Schumacher b. 14 Oct 1844, Ann Arbor, Washtenaw Co., MI; > d. 15 Jul 1886, Jackson Co., MI > ..........m. Jennette (Taylor) Walling, b. Nov 1837 NY; d. 11 Jan 1866 > Jackson Co., MI > >