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    1. [MIWASHTE] Sodt & related familes
    2. Sue Perry
    3. Gloria: My next door neighbor here in Ann Arbor is a SODT. Her mother, Betty Sodt, about age 75 or so, lives in Manchester on the family farm. I know that their father/husband died about 5 to 10 years ago. I've forwarded your query onto Brenda Sodt Foster (my neighbor/ Betty's daughter) and perhaps she will contact you. I'll also print a copy of this and show it to Betty next time she is here next door visiting. I don't recall Betty's maiden name, as she is a SODT by marriage. Also, I know there are SODT's buried in Bethlehem Cemetery here in Ann Arbor - - I see a SODT monument when I go there to tend my family graves. I'll stop and take a picture next time I'm there - - perhaps today. Lastly, "Lewick" is most likely LUICK - - as I remember Brenda saying they are related to the Luicks, and that Luick was often spelled or "Americanized" differently. Maybe Betty's maiden name is Luick? There's a building in downtown Ann Arbor called the LUICK building. Sue Perry Ann Arbor, Mi ----- Original Message ----- From: <GScott113@aol.com> To: <MIWASHTE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 12:14 AM Subject: [MIWASHTE] puzzle - Sodt & related familes > Hello everyone, > > In trying to get one of my many connected lines in the Manchester area > finished, I've run into a frustrating puzzle. The answers may be in obits, but I'm > far away in central Illinois. > > The puzzle begins with William Sodt (1863-"1891") who married Christina > Feldkamp (1860-1900). Supposedly they were married in December of 1885. When they > both died fairly young, their children were raised by Frank Koebbe in more or > less the role of foster father. William & Christina Sodt are buried at Rowes > Corners Cemetery. > > According to my info from cousin David Koss, the children I have for them are: > Ben - married Thelma (maiden name unknown), lived in Jackson several decades > ago. > Bertha - married Martin Wackenhut, lived either at Saline or across the line > in Clinton. > Esther - married Lambert Gieske, lived at Manchester. > Lydia - married William Kleinschmidt, lived near Manchester. > George H. - married Minne (maiden name unknown), lived at Jackson. > Mabel - married Clarence Voegeding, lived near Manchester. > Reuben - married Ruth (Lewick?), lived at either Chelsea or Manchester. > Alvin - married Margaret (maiden name unknown), lived in Ann Arbor. > > David didn't have birth or death dates for any of the children except Reuben, > so I've done my hunting on the SSDI & the Washtenaw County death index (a > fantastic resource!), & what I've found has created the puzzle...... > > I found a Benjamin Sodt (died Oct. 1971) & a Thelma Sodt on the SSDI whose > last residence was Kalamazoo County. But Benjamin was born in 1882. > I found Lydia Kleinschmidt (died 5 Dec. 1961) & William Kleinschmidt, both of > Freedom Township. But Lydia was born in 1883. > I couldn't find Bertha Wackenhut, but I found Martin Wackenhut (died Jan. > 1966), & he was born in 1882 so I'm sure he's the right one. > Esther, George H., Mabel & Reuben have been found, & their dates fall within > the right time frame. Well, George H. (died July 1965) was born in October of > 1885. > Then there's Alvin Sodt. The only one I found (& it can't be a very common > name) died Aug. 1971, last residence Ann Arbor. Also found Margaret Sodt, last > residence Ann Arbor. So that fits. But Benjamin was born in 1897, which > would have been 6 years after his father's death! > > So the puzzle is..... > A) Do we have the right marriage date for William & Christina? > B) Is the "1891" on William's tombstone really "1897"? I'm thinking it's > possible that the top bar on th "7" may have been erased by time if it wasn't > carved very deep. The lettering style might make it look like a "1" now. (It > looked like a "1" many years ago when David saw it, too.) > > I'd love to know what the obits say for Benjamin, Lydia, Bertha & Alvin. (I > imagine obits for William & Christina would be harder to find.) Does anyone > have access to obits for them, or knowledge of them? This is driving me a wee > bit buggy! > > P.S. If I owe anybody a letter, I'll get to you eventually. Due to > circumstances beyond my control I'm several months behind on everything. I just > thought the Sodt connections would be easy to get entered...... silly me!!! > > Gloria Landwer Scott > > ______________________________

    08/09/2003 05:12:29
    1. Re: [MIWASHTE] puzzle - Sodt & related familes
    2. Karen Mills
    3. Gloria, I happen to have a copy of the obit for Alvin W. Sodt who died in Ann Arbor on 8/21/1971. He was born March 28, 1897 in Bridgewater Twp, the son of George & Sarah (Kortman) Sodt. On Dec 12, 1923 he married Margaret Bauer. Survivers included wife, one brother Ben of Kalamazoo and several nieces in nephews. Preceded in death by two sisters and one brother. Burial in Oakgrove in Manchester. If you would like a copy of this obit contact me off list and I'll scan a copy for you. Hope this helps with your puzzle. Karen Mills ksmills@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <GScott113@aol.com> To: <MIWASHTE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 12:14 AM Subject: [MIWASHTE] puzzle - Sodt & related familes Hello everyone, In trying to get one of my many connected lines in the Manchester area finished, I've run into a frustrating puzzle. The answers may be in obits, but I'm far away in central Illinois. The puzzle begins with William Sodt (1863-"1891") who married Christina Feldkamp (1860-1900). Supposedly they were married in December of 1885. When they both died fairly young, their children were raised by Frank Koebbe in more or less the role of foster father. William & Christina Sodt are buried at Rowes Corners Cemetery. According to my info from cousin David Koss, the children I have for them are: Ben - married Thelma (maiden name unknown), lived in Jackson several decades ago. Bertha - married Martin Wackenhut, lived either at Saline or across the line in Clinton. Esther - married Lambert Gieske, lived at Manchester. Lydia - married William Kleinschmidt, lived near Manchester. George H. - married Minne (maiden name unknown), lived at Jackson. Mabel - married Clarence Voegeding, lived near Manchester. Reuben - married Ruth (Lewick?), lived at either Chelsea or Manchester. Alvin - married Margaret (maiden name unknown), lived in Ann Arbor. David didn't have birth or death dates for any of the children except Reuben, so I've done my hunting on the SSDI & the Washtenaw County death index (a fantastic resource!), & what I've found has created the puzzle...... I found a Benjamin Sodt (died Oct. 1971) & a Thelma Sodt on the SSDI whose last residence was Kalamazoo County. But Benjamin was born in 1882. I found Lydia Kleinschmidt (died 5 Dec. 1961) & William Kleinschmidt, both of Freedom Township. But Lydia was born in 1883. I couldn't find Bertha Wackenhut, but I found Martin Wackenhut (died Jan. 1966), & he was born in 1882 so I'm sure he's the right one. Esther, George H., Mabel & Reuben have been found, & their dates fall within the right time frame. Well, George H. (died July 1965) was born in October of 1885. Then there's Alvin Sodt. The only one I found (& it can't be a very common name) died Aug. 1971, last residence Ann Arbor. Also found Margaret Sodt, last residence Ann Arbor. So that fits. But Benjamin was born in 1897, which would have been 6 years after his father's death! So the puzzle is..... A) Do we have the right marriage date for William & Christina? B) Is the "1891" on William's tombstone really "1897"? I'm thinking it's possible that the top bar on th "7" may have been erased by time if it wasn't carved very deep. The lettering style might make it look like a "1" now. (It looked like a "1" many years ago when David saw it, too.) I'd love to know what the obits say for Benjamin, Lydia, Bertha & Alvin. (I imagine obits for William & Christina would be harder to find.) Does anyone have access to obits for them, or knowledge of them? This is driving me a wee bit buggy! P.S. If I owe anybody a letter, I'll get to you eventually. Due to circumstances beyond my control I'm several months behind on everything. I just thought the Sodt connections would be easy to get entered...... silly me!!! Gloria Landwer Scott

    08/08/2003 08:31:30
    1. [MIWASHTE] puzzle - Sodt & related familes
    2. Hello everyone, In trying to get one of my many connected lines in the Manchester area finished, I've run into a frustrating puzzle. The answers may be in obits, but I'm far away in central Illinois. The puzzle begins with William Sodt (1863-"1891") who married Christina Feldkamp (1860-1900). Supposedly they were married in December of 1885. When they both died fairly young, their children were raised by Frank Koebbe in more or less the role of foster father. William & Christina Sodt are buried at Rowes Corners Cemetery. According to my info from cousin David Koss, the children I have for them are: Ben - married Thelma (maiden name unknown), lived in Jackson several decades ago. Bertha - married Martin Wackenhut, lived either at Saline or across the line in Clinton. Esther - married Lambert Gieske, lived at Manchester. Lydia - married William Kleinschmidt, lived near Manchester. George H. - married Minne (maiden name unknown), lived at Jackson. Mabel - married Clarence Voegeding, lived near Manchester. Reuben - married Ruth (Lewick?), lived at either Chelsea or Manchester. Alvin - married Margaret (maiden name unknown), lived in Ann Arbor. David didn't have birth or death dates for any of the children except Reuben, so I've done my hunting on the SSDI & the Washtenaw County death index (a fantastic resource!), & what I've found has created the puzzle...... I found a Benjamin Sodt (died Oct. 1971) & a Thelma Sodt on the SSDI whose last residence was Kalamazoo County. But Benjamin was born in 1882. I found Lydia Kleinschmidt (died 5 Dec. 1961) & William Kleinschmidt, both of Freedom Township. But Lydia was born in 1883. I couldn't find Bertha Wackenhut, but I found Martin Wackenhut (died Jan. 1966), & he was born in 1882 so I'm sure he's the right one. Esther, George H., Mabel & Reuben have been found, & their dates fall within the right time frame. Well, George H. (died July 1965) was born in October of 1885. Then there's Alvin Sodt. The only one I found (& it can't be a very common name) died Aug. 1971, last residence Ann Arbor. Also found Margaret Sodt, last residence Ann Arbor. So that fits. But Benjamin was born in 1897, which would have been 6 years after his father's death! So the puzzle is..... A) Do we have the right marriage date for William & Christina? B) Is the "1891" on William's tombstone really "1897"? I'm thinking it's possible that the top bar on th "7" may have been erased by time if it wasn't carved very deep. The lettering style might make it look like a "1" now. (It looked like a "1" many years ago when David saw it, too.) I'd love to know what the obits say for Benjamin, Lydia, Bertha & Alvin. (I imagine obits for William & Christina would be harder to find.) Does anyone have access to obits for them, or knowledge of them? This is driving me a wee bit buggy! P.S. If I owe anybody a letter, I'll get to you eventually. Due to circumstances beyond my control I'm several months behind on everything. I just thought the Sodt connections would be easy to get entered...... silly me!!! Gloria Landwer Scott

    08/08/2003 06:14:03
    1. [MIWASHTE] change of address
    2. Wilma Fleming Haynes
    3. For those of you who are interested, I have changed my e mail from: gencon@harborside.com TO wilmahaynes@direcway.com Wilma

    08/08/2003 12:40:45
    1. [MIWASHTE] Mrs. Glazier
    2. John Turrel
    3. Lot 12 in Ann Arbor's Forest Hill Cemetery shows 7 burials; 6 of them family of Randall Schuyler (Sr) who moved there in 1834 from Pennsylvania. The unconnected (maybe?) burial is Mrs. M. L. Glazier, interred in 1918, age at death not shown. Does anyone know anything about her? Might she be Jennie Turrel, daughter of Abbie Schuyler Turrel and thus a granddaughter of Randall, Sr.? Thank you. John Turrel

    08/08/2003 03:04:46
    1. Re: [MIWASHTE] Towns of Washtenaw County
    2. DEFrederick
    3. Dennis, Yup, I've got Excel. Send away. And, thanks. Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Norton" <denorton@nortondevelopment.com> To: <MIWASHTE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [MIWASHTE] Towns of Washtenaw County > Denise, > > I can send my entire database of these and other Washtenaw County Locations. > The database is in a Microsoft Excel Workbook. Can you open Excel > workbooks? If you do not have Excel software, let me know and I'll try to > copy it over to WORD or some other program you can use. Let me know if I > can send it to you in Excel. > > Dennis > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DEFrederick" <tfred@voyager.net> > To: <MIWASHTE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 3:57 PM > Subject: Re: [MIWASHTE] Towns of Washtenaw County > > > > Dennis, > > Would it be possible for you to resend this list again, but with an > > indication of 'exactly' which hamlets/villages are no longer in existence > > (you can mark each one with an asterisk). I'd like to add all of this > > listing of yours to the website, too, in addition to the list of > > incorporated towns/villages in the email below, but because I'd like it to > > be as accurate as possible, I'll need clarification. > > Thanks, > > Denise > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dennis Norton" <denorton@nortondevelopment.com> > > To: <MIWASHTE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 5:43 PM > > Subject: Re: [MIWASHTE] Towns of Washtenaw County > > > > > > > What you have listed are all the current, incorporated towns and > villages. > > > If you wish to also list the old hamlets and villages (some only > > > crossroads - but all known at one time or another as a hamlet or > village), > > > here are some of them. Many were thriving hamlets and some are still in > > > existence today while some have long since disappeared. All but Willow > > Run > > > and Barton Hills can all be found on the 1856, 1864 or 1896 plat maps of > > > Washtenaw County. For genealogical research, these are important: > > > > > > > > > Dixboro (Superior Twp) > > > Willow Run (Ypsilanti Twp) > > > Geddesburg (sometimes shortened to Geddes) (Ann Arbor Twp) > > > Whittaker (Augusta Twp) > > > Willis (Augusta Twp) > > > York (York Twp) > > > Urania (York Twp) > > > Bridgewater (Bridgewater Twp) > > > Spike (Manchester Twp) > > > Sharonville (Sharon Twp) > > > Pittsfield (Pittsfield Twp) > > > Superior (Superior Twp) > > > Fosters (Ann Arbor Twp) > > > Delhi (Scio Twp) > > > Scio (Scio Twp) > > > Lima Center (Lima Twp) > > > Sylvan Center (later called Sylvan) (Sylvan Twp) > > > Dover (Dexter Twp) > > > Hudson (later known as Hudson Mills) (Dexter Twp) > > > Webster (Webster Twp) > > > Whitmore Lake (Northfield Twp) > > > Salem (Salem Twp) > > > Norden (Salem Twp) > > > Rogers Corners (Freedom Twp) > > > Mooreville (York Twp) > > > Brown's Corners (Ypsilanti Twp, partly in Wayne County) > > > Rawsonville (Ypsilanti Twp, partly in Wayne County) > > > Locust Grove (Ypsilanti Twp, partly in Wayne County) > > > Clinton (Bridgewater Twp, (mostly in Lenawee County) > > > Barton Hills (Ann Arbor Twp) > > > Gravel Run (Northfield Twp) > > > Carpenter's Corners (Pittsfield Twp) > > > > > > > > > > > > In addition, there were a few Post Offices that were sometimes > identified > > > for mailing addresses or otherwise known as hamlets named after the > > property > > > owner: > > > > > > One located in Northfield Twp on the farm of R.Barker (hamlet sometimes > > > known as Barker) > > > One located in York Twp on the farm of N.B. Grave (hamlet sometimes > known > > as > > > Grave). > > > One located in August Twp on the farm of Miller (hamlet sometimes known > as > > > Miller). > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <MKShelton@aol.com> > > > To: <MIWASHTE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 3:05 PM > > > Subject: [MIWASHTE] Towns of Washtenaw County > > > > > > > > > > >From the Washtenaw County Government website <ewashtenaw.org> > Washtenaw > > > > County, Michigan has Four Cities: > > > > Ann Arbor > > > > Milan > > > > Saline > > > > Ypsilanti > > > > Four Villages: > > > > Barton Hills > > > > Chelsea > > > > Dexter > > > > Manchester > > > > Twenty Townships: > > > > Ann Arbor > > > > Augusta > > > > Bridgewater > > > > Dexter > > > > Freedom > > > > Lima > > > > Lodi > > > > Lyndon > > > > Manchester > > > > Northfield > > > > Pittsfield > > > > Salem > > > > Saline > > > > Scio > > > > Sharon > > > > Superior > > > > Sylvan > > > > Webster > > > > York > > > > Ypsilanti > > > > A county map is online at < > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ewashtenaw.org/government/cities_twps_villages/lg_locgovt.html/lg > > > _l > > > > > > > > ocmap.html> > > > > > > > > A search for populated places in Washtenaw County, Michigan on the > USGS > > > query > > > > site <http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form> > > > > reveals several additional names of places. Some of those names could > > be > > > > handy for genealogists. The USGS website mapping feature is useful for > > > > locating them in corresponding governmental units. > > > > > > > > Marjorie Shelton > > > > Washtenaw County Surnames: Culver, Pepper and several allied lines > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

    07/31/2003 03:54:20
    1. [MIWASHTE] Washtenaw Co., MI USGenWeb page update
    2. DEFrederick
    3. Greetings, It's been a productive month and I wanted to let everyone know what's new to the website. Click on this link: http://members.tripod.com/~deemamafred/washnew.html to access these new additions. 1 Nov 2002: Added cemetery transcriptions for: Lima Center Cemetery, Maple Grove Cemetery and Mooreville Cemetery and updated listings for Four-Mile Lake Cemetery and Union Cemetery. 2 Nov 2002: Added cemetery transcriptions for: Salem Grove Cemetery, Judd Cemetery, Salem Evangelical Lutheran Cemetery. 4 Nov 2002: Added cemetery transcriptions for: Old St. Joseph Catholic Cemetery(Dexter Townhall Cemetery) 9 Nov 2002: Added cemetery transcriptions for: York Cemetery, Olivet Cemetery - A-K, Olivet Cemetery - L-Z, St John's Cemetery, and Porter Cemetery 17 Nov 2002: Added remaining cemetery transcriptions for: Oak Grove Cemetery, J-K , Oak Grove Cemetery, M-S, Oak Grove Cemetery, Veterans & Unknowns, Oak Grove Cemetery Sign, Oak Grove Cemetery Map, and added Oakhill Cemetery in Saline 25 Nov 2002: Added new link for the National Register of Historical Places - Washtenaw Co., MI 29 Nov 2002: Added cemetery pictures for Leland Cemetery and Foresthill Cemetery, also added a town page for Chelsea, Washtenaw Co., MI, including a history of the community. 1 Dec 2002: Added a webpage showing a listing of towns, villages and hamlets in Washtenaw Co., MI Also, thank you to: Pauline, Karl, Marjorie, Dennis and John for their assistance in compiling the information for the town/village/hamlet page. Regards, Denise ***************************************************** Petoskey, Emmet Co., MI email address: tfred@voyager.net Researching these surnames: BECKWITH, BUGBEE, CHASE, CLINE, CRANE, FLANDERS, GAUMER, HEIFNER, HENRY, HUNT, LANE, MARSCH, MUSHRUSH, NEEB, QUIGLEY, RAYDURE/RYDER, ROSS, STANTON, STONE, SHURGOUR, STARKWEATHER, THOMPSON, VAN RIPER, WENNER, WERTZ and WHITING Visit my homepage and read "Denise's Story": http://members.tripod.com/~deemamafred/index.html CC for Emmet County, MI USGenWeb Homepage: http://members.tripod.com/~deemamafred/miemmet.html CC for St. Joseph County, MI USGenWeb Homepage: http://members.tripod.com/~tfred/mistjo.html CC for Washtenaw Co., MI USGenWeb Homepage: http://members.tripod.com/~deemamafred/miwash.html Emmet County Genealogical Society: http://members.tripod.com/~deemamafred/ecgs.html *****************************************************

    07/31/2003 03:39:12
    1. Re: [MIWASHTE] Towns of Washtenaw County
    2. DEFrederick
    3. Dennis, Would it be possible for you to resend this list again, but with an indication of 'exactly' which hamlets/villages are no longer in existence (you can mark each one with an asterisk). I'd like to add all of this listing of yours to the website, too, in addition to the list of incorporated towns/villages in the email below, but because I'd like it to be as accurate as possible, I'll need clarification. Thanks, Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Norton" <denorton@nortondevelopment.com> To: <MIWASHTE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [MIWASHTE] Towns of Washtenaw County > What you have listed are all the current, incorporated towns and villages. > If you wish to also list the old hamlets and villages (some only > crossroads - but all known at one time or another as a hamlet or village), > here are some of them. Many were thriving hamlets and some are still in > existence today while some have long since disappeared. All but Willow Run > and Barton Hills can all be found on the 1856, 1864 or 1896 plat maps of > Washtenaw County. For genealogical research, these are important: > > > Dixboro (Superior Twp) > Willow Run (Ypsilanti Twp) > Geddesburg (sometimes shortened to Geddes) (Ann Arbor Twp) > Whittaker (Augusta Twp) > Willis (Augusta Twp) > York (York Twp) > Urania (York Twp) > Bridgewater (Bridgewater Twp) > Spike (Manchester Twp) > Sharonville (Sharon Twp) > Pittsfield (Pittsfield Twp) > Superior (Superior Twp) > Fosters (Ann Arbor Twp) > Delhi (Scio Twp) > Scio (Scio Twp) > Lima Center (Lima Twp) > Sylvan Center (later called Sylvan) (Sylvan Twp) > Dover (Dexter Twp) > Hudson (later known as Hudson Mills) (Dexter Twp) > Webster (Webster Twp) > Whitmore Lake (Northfield Twp) > Salem (Salem Twp) > Norden (Salem Twp) > Rogers Corners (Freedom Twp) > Mooreville (York Twp) > Brown's Corners (Ypsilanti Twp, partly in Wayne County) > Rawsonville (Ypsilanti Twp, partly in Wayne County) > Locust Grove (Ypsilanti Twp, partly in Wayne County) > Clinton (Bridgewater Twp, (mostly in Lenawee County) > Barton Hills (Ann Arbor Twp) > Gravel Run (Northfield Twp) > Carpenter's Corners (Pittsfield Twp) > > > > In addition, there were a few Post Offices that were sometimes identified > for mailing addresses or otherwise known as hamlets named after the property > owner: > > One located in Northfield Twp on the farm of R.Barker (hamlet sometimes > known as Barker) > One located in York Twp on the farm of N.B. Grave (hamlet sometimes known as > Grave). > One located in August Twp on the farm of Miller (hamlet sometimes known as > Miller). > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <MKShelton@aol.com> > To: <MIWASHTE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 3:05 PM > Subject: [MIWASHTE] Towns of Washtenaw County > > > > >From the Washtenaw County Government website <ewashtenaw.org> Washtenaw > > County, Michigan has Four Cities: > > Ann Arbor > > Milan > > Saline > > Ypsilanti > > Four Villages: > > Barton Hills > > Chelsea > > Dexter > > Manchester > > Twenty Townships: > > Ann Arbor > > Augusta > > Bridgewater > > Dexter > > Freedom > > Lima > > Lodi > > Lyndon > > Manchester > > Northfield > > Pittsfield > > Salem > > Saline > > Scio > > Sharon > > Superior > > Sylvan > > Webster > > York > > Ypsilanti > > A county map is online at < > > > http://www.ewashtenaw.org/government/cities_twps_villages/lg_locgovt.html/lg > _l > > > > ocmap.html> > > > > A search for populated places in Washtenaw County, Michigan on the USGS > query > > site <http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form> > > reveals several additional names of places. Some of those names could be > > handy for genealogists. The USGS website mapping feature is useful for > > locating them in corresponding governmental units. > > > > Marjorie Shelton > > Washtenaw County Surnames: Culver, Pepper and several allied lines > > > > > > > > > > > >

    07/31/2003 10:57:49
    1. Re: [MIWASHTE] Towns of Washtenaw County
    2. DEFrederick
    3. Pauline, I humbly accept your generous offer of the map. Thank you, so much. I'll contact you by private email to give you my mailing address. Thanks again, Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: <PopoWalt@aol.com> To: <MIWASHTE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [MIWASHTE] Towns of Washtenaw County > Denise, I will be ONE of the people that will give you the list > of towns in Washtenaw County: > > Ann Arbor > Bridgewater > Chelsea > Dexter > Dixboro (part of Ann Arbor) > Manchester > Milan (half in Washtenaw Co. Half in Monroe Co.) > Saline > Sharon Hollow > * Sharonville P.O. > Sylvan > Whitmore Lake (half in Washtenaw & half in Livingston) > Whittaker > Willis > York > Ypsilanti > > Lyndon Twp the first northern tier > Dexter Twp > Webster Twp > Northfield Twp > Salem Twp > (Panama now Salem + Superior Twps) > > Sylvan Twp > Lima Twp > Scio Twp > Ann Arbor Twp > Superior Twp > > Sharon Twp > Freedom Twp > Lodi Twp > Pittsfield Twp > Ypsilanti Twp > > Manchester Twp > Bridgewater Twp > Saline Twp > York Twp > Augusta Twp bottom tier of townships > > In fact, Denise, we have a reprint of Ogle's Atlas of Washtenaw > County - 1894 that I will put into the mail for you. It is about 20 inches > square. > > Pauline V Walters > Museum on Main Street, A Museum of County Life > Washtenaw County Historical Society > 734 / 662-9092 > > http://www.hvcn.org/info/gswc/society/socwashtenaw.htm > > e-mail popowalt@aol.com > > > > new e-mail: WCHS-500@ameritech.net soon > >

    07/31/2003 10:49:02
    1. Re: [MIWASHTE] Towns of Washtenaw County
    2. DEFrederick
    3. Karl, Actually, you bring up a good point. I think I'd like to add all "population centers" located in Washtenaw County because I'd like the list to be as comprehensive as possible for any researchers wanting info for this area. What other populated centers are there? Denise PS Thanks for the idea... and I love your analogy of the "Dixboro" residents. ~grin~ > Denise, In case there is some confusion: Dixboro is not incorporated and > therefore is governed by Superior Township. Still, Dixboro considers itself > a village. Ask anyone in Dixboro where he/she lives and they will say > Dixboro, not Ann Arbor. Are you interested in identified population centers > (such as Dixboro) or actually incorporated entities? Karl.

    07/31/2003 10:39:57
    1. [MIWASHTE] Towns of Washtenaw County
    2. DEFrederick
    3. Greetings, Ok, all you learned people out there. I need some help. I'm trying to make a comprehensive list of the town names for Washtenaw County to add to the main webpage and I don't have a County map. Can anyone send a list of towns in Washtenaw County to this mailing list? Thanks, Denise ***************************************************** Petoskey, Emmet Co., MI email address: tfred@voyager.net CC for Washtenaw Co., MI USGenWeb Homepage: http://members.tripod.com/~deemamafred/miwash.html *****************************************************

    07/31/2003 08:22:48
    1. RE: [MIWASHTE] Peter B. Walling in 1870
    2. Bushy Hartman
    3. Marilyn, Sorry I don't have much more than what I posted on Peter B. Walling and we will post the scanned copy of his death document in the coming week. If I could make one small correction to the below information it is Huron Twp, Wayne County, MI. I do appreciate you helping though thanks so much. If I find anything more on the children I'll be sure to post it. Take care Bushy -----Original Message----- From: Marilyn LeVeque [mailto:mleveque@tcsn.net] Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 12:35 PM To: MIWASHTE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MIWASHTE] Peter B. Walling in 1870 Well, I guess you can't hit "reply" so here is the inf. again for Mr. Hartman re: Peter B. Walling in 1870, Huron County, MI. I did not know I had a "fancy" font, so here we go, one more time to try & send a readable version of this message! To Mr. Hartman, In the 1870 MI Census online, your Peter B. Walling (age 36) is living in Huron County with his father Inman Walling (age 69) & mother, Sarah (age 72) & 2 of his children Eugene (10) & Ford (13). Inman Walling & Peter B. were born in NY & Sarah in NJ & kids in MI. Peter B. Walling is a "farmer" with 2300 dollars worth of assets claimed. I am looking for a Peter Wallin(g) born in England & orphaned in 1847, whose parents are Joseph & Susannah (Cook) Wallin, sometimes a "g" added. Sisters in MI are Mary (Wallin) Christian who lived in Calhoun County, MI & Carrie M. (Wallin) Brown they both died in Kalamazoo, MI. So I am aware of most Wallin,Walling's in MI. Marilyn

    07/28/2003 11:42:24
    1. RE: [MIWASHTE] Schumacher/Crosby/Walling/Taylor solving a mystery
    2. Bushy Hartman
    3. Samuella, I did it the old fashion way. I went to the NARA site http://www.archives.gov/ Nara And they have where you order for FREE order forms that take a couple of days to get to you. Then with the company information, I found mine on Ancestry.com, you send for the records but send no payment. They have a set payment of $37 no matter how many pages it contains. They can bill your credit card and will automatically start processing your order if you use a credit card but if you prefer check they will check to see if they have any records and tell you before you send payment. You receive a postcard stating it can take up to 60 or 90 days. I did very well with this one file since it was so large and so full of information. I will have my husband scan some of the pages onto the web page in the coming week and you can see actually what is provided in this one but they all vary with content of course. I have one ancestor that was in and out within one year so the record may not contain much so I do not wish to waste $37 and I already have documentation on his life. Another thing they also have indexes on many Native American tribes that might be of use. Take care Bushy Where did you find pension files? Samuella :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bushy Hartman" <mihartman@homexpressway.net> To: <MIWASHTE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 4:36 AM Subject: [MIWASHTE] Schumacher/Crosby/Walling/Taylor solving a mystery > Hello all, > I just received the pension file on Christian Schumacher who married > Jennette (Taylor) Walling. This line has been very confusing to say the > least so this inch thick pension file which was chock full of information > verified some of the information that wonderful volunteers helped me locate. > I have documented up to Christian Schumacher who I will refer to for ease in > keeping them seperated as Jr but no where on any documents was he referred > to as such. I have Christian's death certificate but he was born too early > for a birth certificate. I am trying to find out positively who his parents > were. I feel it might be the Christian Sr. who was married to Ann M. or > Maria Ann but I have not found anything that I can document it with other > than the death certificate and that only confused matters. If there is > anyone out there who loves a great mystery I would love to hear from you > including those who were so wonderfully helpful before. I am sending this to > both counties since the family lived in both during their lifetimes. If you > connect or are interested in our web page concerning this family the url is > near the end of the email. > Thanks so much for any and all help you can provide. If you have any > suggestions on other documents I could send for please let me know. > Have a wonderful day > Bushy Hartman > ********************* > Item #1 > >From the pension file the following items were mentioned about the birth of > Christian Schumacher: > "My father was born was raised on Liberty and First streets" > [This provided by his daughter in a later letter but no mention of his > parents names or his actual birth date. From the city directories Christian > b. 1828 was living on Liberty and Second Streets.] > ********************* > Item #2 > "brother in law by marriage" was on two documents signed by Christian > Schumacher and John Schumacher on affidavits for Jennett to receive the > pension once Christian her husband had died. > [How can a bro-in-law be named the same as the husband? Could this be her > father-in-law who was still living when his son died?] > ********************* > Item #3 > Death certificate has his parents as Christian Schumacher and Catherine > Schumacher both born in Germany. I did not find any other > Schumacher/Shoemakers in the same area and Catherine was married to > Frederick and mother of the Senior Christian who was married to Ann M. or > Maria Ann from death cards. Is it possible the person who provided the > information could of mistaken his father and grandmother names as his > parents? > ********************** > Item #4 > Census- I could not find in the census where Christian [Jr.] is living with > his family. > > ********************** > Item #5 > Mary Henderson who uncovered that Jennette Taylor married Peter B. Walling > and had three children Eudora, Ford and Eugene. Peter abandoned Jennette > which mentions this in the pension file and he took her children with him to > live in Wayne Co., MI before 1870 census with his parents. > The pension file contains a documents showing that: "Peter B. Walling was > admitted to the Insane Asylum on 10 Oct 1881 and died 17 Oct 1882." > Jennette claims there was a divorce but could not remember where her > ex-husband was living at the time and could not provide the divorce > documents. > The pension file contains: Jennette Taylor married Christian Schumacher[Jr.] > on 11 Jan 1866 in Smithfield Center, Washtenaw Co., MI. I have not sent for > this document yet is the location the correct county? > ********************* > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mcguirecuz/ > McGuire Cousins which also contains the Schumacher line along with several > others in separate ancestry files. There are scanned documents and some > photos along with headstone photos. > > Frederick Schumacher b. 2 Apr 1812 Ger.; d. 31 Dec 1849 > ..m. Catherine Afeichardt b. 8 Dec 1808 Ger.; d. 24 Jan 1875 > ...ch: Christian Schumacher b. 23 Dec 1828 Ger.; d. 13 May 1897 > .....m. Ann M. ____, b. 1833 Ger., d. > ......ch: Christian Schumacher b. 14 Oct 1844, Ann Arbor, Washtenaw Co., MI; > d. 15 Jul 1886, Jackson Co., MI > ..........m. Jennette (Taylor) Walling, b. Nov 1837 NY; d. 11 Jan 1866 > Jackson Co., MI > >

    07/28/2003 11:30:30
    1. RE: [MIWASHTE] Schumacher/Crosby/Walling/Taylor solving a mystery
    2. Bushy Hartman
    3. Karen, Thank you so very much sorry for delay my email was down and just got it back up, seems I am running out of memory space and it is starting to cause glitches. I will have to go over all this fantastic information and please know I am so very very thankful for you generous help. You have one fantastic day Bushy -----Original Message----- From: Karen Mills [mailto:ksmills@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 2:14 PM To: MIWASHTE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MIWASHTE] Schumacher/Crosby/Walling/Taylor solving a mystery Bushy, The records I have from Rev. Friedrich Schmid (Lutheran minister) of Ann Arbor (originals are at the Bentley Historical Library in Ann Arbor) list the following information that might help (or might confuse the issue further!) Christian Schuhmacher, born 14 Oct 1844 in Ann Arbor, son of Fried. Schuhmacher and A. Maria was baptized by Rev. Schmid on 17 Nov 1844. Unfortunately the portion of the page that lists godparents has a large spot of what looks like ink. Godfather was Joh. Braun but the name of the godmother is not entirely visible (could be his wife). Friedrich Schuhmacher, age 37 yr, 8 mo, 16 days, died in Ann Arbor on 31 January 1849 and was buried on 2 January 1850. (the death date is listed as January but recorded with the deaths from end of 1849...? an error since burial was Jan 2). Catherina, daughter of Friedrich Schuhmacher and ____ Catherina Eberhardt (first name was written over but looks like it could be Anna). Born in Ann Arbor on 31 October 1837, baptized 5 Nov 1837. Godparents Johannes Braun (single) and Anna Maria Eberhardt (single). Johannes Schuhmacher, born 11 Sept 1839 in Ann Arbor, son of Friedrich Schuhmacher and Catherina Eberhardt (this entry is very faded). Baptism appears to be October but I can't read the day. Godmother was ---Eberhardt but entry is too faded to read name of godfather (looking at the original might be better than the copy I have). Elisabeth, child of Friedrich Schuhmacher and A. Cath. Eberhardt, born in Ann Arbor on 14 Oct 1840, baptized 1 Nov 1840. Godparents Johannes Braun and wife. Interestingly, the entry right after baptism for Elisabeth is for Friedrich Braun, son of Johannes Braun and his wife whose maiden name was Eberhardt (it doesn't list her first name). Friedrich was also baptized on 1 Nov. 1840, godparents Friedrich Ziegler and wife. J. Jacob Friedrich, son of Friedrich Schuhmacher (no listing for mother) born in Ann Arbor 22 Aug 1842, baptism 11 Sept 1842. Godparents Johannes Braun and wife. Barbara, child of Friedrich Schuhmacher (no listing for mother), born in Ann Arbor 5 Dec 1846, baptism 25 Dec 1846. Godparents Johannes Braun and wife. Hanna, child of Friedrich & M. Schuhmacher, no birth date listed, born in Ann Arbor, baptism 26 Nov 1848. Godparents Johannes Braun and wife. Ester Othilda, child of ? (just an initial ) & M. Schuhmacher, age 2 mo, 3 days, died 13 August 1855 in Ann Arbor, burial 14 August 1855. Her baptism record lists her as child of Christ. and Maria Schumacher, born in Ann Arbor on 27 May 1855, baptized on 24 June 1855. Godparents Fr. Ziegler and Grandmother Schuhmacher. Flora Cath., child of Chr. and M. Schuhmacher, born in Ann Arbor 18 Aug 1860, baptism 30 Sept 1860. Godparents Friedrich Ziegler and Widow Schuhmacher. Marriage records list Christian Schuhmacher married Anna Maria Schuhmacher (this is listed as though it is her maiden name), age 25 and 21 respectively, both single, on 4 June 1854 by Rev Schmid. Johannes Braun (born 11 April 1816, son of Michael Braun & Christina Altbrecht) married Anna Maria Eberhardt born 11 March 1812 (no parents listed) married 30 April 1839 by Rev. Schmid. Christ. Gerlach married Magdl. Schuhmacher19 Oct 1850. Ages 29 and 24 respectively. (no parent info given). Joseph _____ (looks like it could be "Lit") married Fridr. Schuhmacher, ages 33 and 25, 16 Feb 1856 Joh. G. Schuhmacher married Friderica Gross on 1 Apr 1856. Ages 28, 21. Joh. Georg Heimerdinger married Chris. Schuhmacher on 1 Apr 1856. Ages 26 and 22. Jacob Allmendinger married Anna Maria Schuhmacher on 7 June 1857. Ages 25, 19. Mich. Seger married Anna Maria Schuhmacher on 26 Apr 1859. Ages 30, 19. Jacob Schuhmacher married A. Maria Schle---er on 16 Nov 1865, Ages 24, 22. No specific locations are indicated for any of these marriages and Rev. Schmid served many area Lutheran congregations, particularly in the early years before many of the area congregations established a minister to serve their own church. There are other baptism records for 1850's to 1870's but I don't have them all so there could be other Schuhmacher baptisms after the mid-1850's; prior to that I have a copy of all his records (1830's-1850's) and just scattered ones after that. I do have a copy of complete marriage and death records from his records. Unfortunately the later records do not have as much information as the early years! Hope this helps. Karen Mills ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bushy Hartman" <mihartman@homexpressway.net> To: <MIWASHTE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 7:36 AM Subject: [MIWASHTE] Schumacher/Crosby/Walling/Taylor solving a mystery Hello all, I just received the pension file on Christian Schumacher who married Jennette (Taylor) Walling. This line has been very confusing to say the least so this inch thick pension file which was chock full of information verified some of the information that wonderful volunteers helped me locate. I have documented up to Christian Schumacher who I will refer to for ease in keeping them seperated as Jr but no where on any documents was he referred to as such. I have Christian's death certificate but he was born too early for a birth certificate. I am trying to find out positively who his parents were. I feel it might be the Christian Sr. who was married to Ann M. or Maria Ann but I have not found anything that I can document it with other than the death certificate and that only confused matters. If there is anyone out there who loves a great mystery I would love to hear from you including those who were so wonderfully helpful before. I am sending this to both counties since the family lived in both during their lifetimes. If you connect or are interested in our web page concerning this family the url is near the end of the email. Thanks so much for any and all help you can provide. If you have any suggestions on other documents I could send for please let me know. Have a wonderful day Bushy Hartman ********************* Item #1 >From the pension file the following items were mentioned about the birth of Christian Schumacher: "My father was born was raised on Liberty and First streets" [This provided by his daughter in a later letter but no mention of his parents names or his actual birth date. From the city directories Christian b. 1828 was living on Liberty and Second Streets.] ********************* Item #2 "brother in law by marriage" was on two documents signed by Christian Schumacher and John Schumacher on affidavits for Jennett to receive the pension once Christian her husband had died. [How can a bro-in-law be named the same as the husband? Could this be her father-in-law who was still living when his son died?] ********************* Item #3 Death certificate has his parents as Christian Schumacher and Catherine Schumacher both born in Germany. I did not find any other Schumacher/Shoemakers in the same area and Catherine was married to Frederick and mother of the Senior Christian who was married to Ann M. or Maria Ann from death cards. Is it possible the person who provided the information could of mistaken his father and grandmother names as his parents? ********************** Item #4 Census- I could not find in the census where Christian [Jr.] is living with his family. ********************** Item #5 Mary Henderson who uncovered that Jennette Taylor married Peter B. Walling and had three children Eudora, Ford and Eugene. Peter abandoned Jennette which mentions this in the pension file and he took her children with him to live in Wayne Co., MI before 1870 census with his parents. The pension file contains a documents showing that: "Peter B. Walling was admitted to the Insane Asylum on 10 Oct 1881 and died 17 Oct 1882." Jennette claims there was a divorce but could not remember where her ex-husband was living at the time and could not provide the divorce documents. The pension file contains: Jennette Taylor married Christian Schumacher[Jr.] on 11 Jan 1866 in Smithfield Center, Washtenaw Co., MI. I have not sent for this document yet is the location the correct county? ********************* http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mcguirecuz/ McGuire Cousins which also contains the Schumacher line along with several others in separate ancestry files. There are scanned documents and some photos along with headstone photos. Frederick Schumacher b. 2 Apr 1812 Ger.; d. 31 Dec 1849 ..m. Catherine Afeichardt b. 8 Dec 1808 Ger.; d. 24 Jan 1875 ...ch: Christian Schumacher b. 23 Dec 1828 Ger.; d. 13 May 1897 .....m. Ann M. ____, b. 1833 Ger., d. ......ch: Christian Schumacher b. 14 Oct 1844, Ann Arbor, Washtenaw Co., MI; d. 15 Jul 1886, Jackson Co., MI ..........m. Jennette (Taylor) Walling, b. Nov 1837 NY; d. 11 Jan 1866 Jackson Co., MI

    07/28/2003 11:20:33
    1. [MIWASHTE] The Michigan 22nd Infantry Regiment during the Civil War.
    2. Douglas M. Casamer
    3. I hope this "Subject" has drawn your attention? I have made many announcements around the various counties, which mothered the men who enlisted into the Michigan 22nd Infantry, for historical reasons. I have been composing a large History book on this very Regiment, which has simply been one colossal and monumental project, bet never the less a labor of love. The materials I have amassed is something no one person should have ever taken on, but then in the 140 years post the Civil War these 1,658 men have never had the whole story told, written or placed in our lives like I feel I have attempted to accomplish over three years ago. Many of you might recall during my Military Genealogy Programs, on securing Historical Military Records? If you have then you know my dedication and allegiance to the cause of history and the many lovely people who appreciate the research and military history of the men of the Civil War. My vested interest comes from my great great grandfather and ! his brother, both serving in the Michigan 22nd. You see my friends these men came from your county, my county, and our sister counties here in this section of Michigan. Many of us today are descendents of those men, and have perhaps a small CDV or old picture after the Civil War of one of the men. Yu may also know a small section of history on some of the men. That's why I ask, plead and request any and all words be sent out to ask anyone to contribute to this body of work. Not to sell, trade or buy, but to tell the story more in-depth, as so I might have greater base of material to include. So may people have contributed, and all will and have been given name and material credit, as well as any future material provided. My cut off date is basically much closer, so I must become semi aggressive in requesting any and all that might have some small notes, or pictures, or allow me to photograph an artifact, make contact with me ASAP, as so I might keep add. I appreciate the minute! you took to read this note, and may you all enjoy the history in the near future, of a story line of our ancestors who gave and contributed to so much, so long ago, for a story that must be told. God Bless. Mr. Douglas M. Casamer 18775 Armada Ridge Road Armada Twp., Michigan 48005-4213 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

    07/28/2003 03:53:26
    1. Re: [MIWASHTE] Schumacher/Crosby/Walling/Taylor solving a mystery
    2. Karen Mills
    3. Bushy, The records I have from Rev. Friedrich Schmid (Lutheran minister) of Ann Arbor (originals are at the Bentley Historical Library in Ann Arbor) list the following information that might help (or might confuse the issue further!) Christian Schuhmacher, born 14 Oct 1844 in Ann Arbor, son of Fried. Schuhmacher and A. Maria was baptized by Rev. Schmid on 17 Nov 1844. Unfortunately the portion of the page that lists godparents has a large spot of what looks like ink. Godfather was Joh. Braun but the name of the godmother is not entirely visible (could be his wife). Friedrich Schuhmacher, age 37 yr, 8 mo, 16 days, died in Ann Arbor on 31 January 1849 and was buried on 2 January 1850. (the death date is listed as January but recorded with the deaths from end of 1849...? an error since burial was Jan 2). Catherina, daughter of Friedrich Schuhmacher and ____ Catherina Eberhardt (first name was written over but looks like it could be Anna). Born in Ann Arbor on 31 October 1837, baptized 5 Nov 1837. Godparents Johannes Braun (single) and Anna Maria Eberhardt (single). Johannes Schuhmacher, born 11 Sept 1839 in Ann Arbor, son of Friedrich Schuhmacher and Catherina Eberhardt (this entry is very faded). Baptism appears to be October but I can't read the day. Godmother was ---Eberhardt but entry is too faded to read name of godfather (looking at the original might be better than the copy I have). Elisabeth, child of Friedrich Schuhmacher and A. Cath. Eberhardt, born in Ann Arbor on 14 Oct 1840, baptized 1 Nov 1840. Godparents Johannes Braun and wife. Interestingly, the entry right after baptism for Elisabeth is for Friedrich Braun, son of Johannes Braun and his wife whose maiden name was Eberhardt (it doesn't list her first name). Friedrich was also baptized on 1 Nov. 1840, godparents Friedrich Ziegler and wife. J. Jacob Friedrich, son of Friedrich Schuhmacher (no listing for mother) born in Ann Arbor 22 Aug 1842, baptism 11 Sept 1842. Godparents Johannes Braun and wife. Barbara, child of Friedrich Schuhmacher (no listing for mother), born in Ann Arbor 5 Dec 1846, baptism 25 Dec 1846. Godparents Johannes Braun and wife. Hanna, child of Friedrich & M. Schuhmacher, no birth date listed, born in Ann Arbor, baptism 26 Nov 1848. Godparents Johannes Braun and wife. Ester Othilda, child of ? (just an initial ) & M. Schuhmacher, age 2 mo, 3 days, died 13 August 1855 in Ann Arbor, burial 14 August 1855. Her baptism record lists her as child of Christ. and Maria Schumacher, born in Ann Arbor on 27 May 1855, baptized on 24 June 1855. Godparents Fr. Ziegler and Grandmother Schuhmacher. Flora Cath., child of Chr. and M. Schuhmacher, born in Ann Arbor 18 Aug 1860, baptism 30 Sept 1860. Godparents Friedrich Ziegler and Widow Schuhmacher. Marriage records list Christian Schuhmacher married Anna Maria Schuhmacher (this is listed as though it is her maiden name), age 25 and 21 respectively, both single, on 4 June 1854 by Rev Schmid. Johannes Braun (born 11 April 1816, son of Michael Braun & Christina Altbrecht) married Anna Maria Eberhardt born 11 March 1812 (no parents listed) married 30 April 1839 by Rev. Schmid. Christ. Gerlach married Magdl. Schuhmacher19 Oct 1850. Ages 29 and 24 respectively. (no parent info given). Joseph _____ (looks like it could be "Lit") married Fridr. Schuhmacher, ages 33 and 25, 16 Feb 1856 Joh. G. Schuhmacher married Friderica Gross on 1 Apr 1856. Ages 28, 21. Joh. Georg Heimerdinger married Chris. Schuhmacher on 1 Apr 1856. Ages 26 and 22. Jacob Allmendinger married Anna Maria Schuhmacher on 7 June 1857. Ages 25, 19. Mich. Seger married Anna Maria Schuhmacher on 26 Apr 1859. Ages 30, 19. Jacob Schuhmacher married A. Maria Schle---er on 16 Nov 1865, Ages 24, 22. No specific locations are indicated for any of these marriages and Rev. Schmid served many area Lutheran congregations, particularly in the early years before many of the area congregations established a minister to serve their own church. There are other baptism records for 1850's to 1870's but I don't have them all so there could be other Schuhmacher baptisms after the mid-1850's; prior to that I have a copy of all his records (1830's-1850's) and just scattered ones after that. I do have a copy of complete marriage and death records from his records. Unfortunately the later records do not have as much information as the early years! Hope this helps. Karen Mills ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bushy Hartman" <mihartman@homexpressway.net> To: <MIWASHTE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 7:36 AM Subject: [MIWASHTE] Schumacher/Crosby/Walling/Taylor solving a mystery Hello all, I just received the pension file on Christian Schumacher who married Jennette (Taylor) Walling. This line has been very confusing to say the least so this inch thick pension file which was chock full of information verified some of the information that wonderful volunteers helped me locate. I have documented up to Christian Schumacher who I will refer to for ease in keeping them seperated as Jr but no where on any documents was he referred to as such. I have Christian's death certificate but he was born too early for a birth certificate. I am trying to find out positively who his parents were. I feel it might be the Christian Sr. who was married to Ann M. or Maria Ann but I have not found anything that I can document it with other than the death certificate and that only confused matters. If there is anyone out there who loves a great mystery I would love to hear from you including those who were so wonderfully helpful before. I am sending this to both counties since the family lived in both during their lifetimes. If you connect or are interested in our web page concerning this family the url is near the end of the email. Thanks so much for any and all help you can provide. If you have any suggestions on other documents I could send for please let me know. Have a wonderful day Bushy Hartman ********************* Item #1 >From the pension file the following items were mentioned about the birth of Christian Schumacher: "My father was born was raised on Liberty and First streets" [This provided by his daughter in a later letter but no mention of his parents names or his actual birth date. From the city directories Christian b. 1828 was living on Liberty and Second Streets.] ********************* Item #2 "brother in law by marriage" was on two documents signed by Christian Schumacher and John Schumacher on affidavits for Jennett to receive the pension once Christian her husband had died. [How can a bro-in-law be named the same as the husband? Could this be her father-in-law who was still living when his son died?] ********************* Item #3 Death certificate has his parents as Christian Schumacher and Catherine Schumacher both born in Germany. I did not find any other Schumacher/Shoemakers in the same area and Catherine was married to Frederick and mother of the Senior Christian who was married to Ann M. or Maria Ann from death cards. Is it possible the person who provided the information could of mistaken his father and grandmother names as his parents? ********************** Item #4 Census- I could not find in the census where Christian [Jr.] is living with his family. ********************** Item #5 Mary Henderson who uncovered that Jennette Taylor married Peter B. Walling and had three children Eudora, Ford and Eugene. Peter abandoned Jennette which mentions this in the pension file and he took her children with him to live in Wayne Co., MI before 1870 census with his parents. The pension file contains a documents showing that: "Peter B. Walling was admitted to the Insane Asylum on 10 Oct 1881 and died 17 Oct 1882." Jennette claims there was a divorce but could not remember where her ex-husband was living at the time and could not provide the divorce documents. The pension file contains: Jennette Taylor married Christian Schumacher[Jr.] on 11 Jan 1866 in Smithfield Center, Washtenaw Co., MI. I have not sent for this document yet is the location the correct county? ********************* http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mcguirecuz/ McGuire Cousins which also contains the Schumacher line along with several others in separate ancestry files. There are scanned documents and some photos along with headstone photos. Frederick Schumacher b. 2 Apr 1812 Ger.; d. 31 Dec 1849 ..m. Catherine Afeichardt b. 8 Dec 1808 Ger.; d. 24 Jan 1875 ...ch: Christian Schumacher b. 23 Dec 1828 Ger.; d. 13 May 1897 .....m. Ann M. ____, b. 1833 Ger., d. ......ch: Christian Schumacher b. 14 Oct 1844, Ann Arbor, Washtenaw Co., MI; d. 15 Jul 1886, Jackson Co., MI ..........m. Jennette (Taylor) Walling, b. Nov 1837 NY; d. 11 Jan 1866 Jackson Co., MI

    07/27/2003 08:13:43
    1. [MIWASHTE] Where ot obtain National Archives records, other than through them & wait less time
    2. Marilyn LeVeque
    3. To others wanting records quickly, I received this from a gentleman, Michael O. Anderson, in Washington, D.C. who does searches at the National Archives, who will copy & mail to you. Here is his list, credentials & how to contact him. You will have to ask what his fees are or they may be posted on his website. Civil War Research and Documents - If the individual you are interested in served in the Union cause in the Civil War, his compiled Military Service Record and in many cases Pension Record may be available in the National Archives. The Pension Record would hold the most genealogical information and would contain information not only about him, but about his spouse and dependents. The Pension Records are all ORIGINAL documents; Military Service Records are compiled records. Confederate Millitary Pensions are not available at the National Archives, but there ARE compiled Military Service Records for Confederate soldiers. -------------------------------------------------------------- For your general information, the military records I research are: All Wars from the Revolutionary War through the Philippine Insurrection (1907) ... pension records are available for all veterans of these wars that received military pensions; also, there were NUMEROUS Federal conflicts/"disturbances" prior to the Civil War for which there exists Military Pension and compiled Military Service Records - Indian "Disturbances" and Wars, 1815-1858 Creek War - 1813-1814 Seminole War (or Florida Wars) - 1817-1818; 1835-1842; 1855-1858 Winnebago War - 1827 Sac & Fox War - 1831 Black Hawk War - 1832 Creek War - 1836-1837; State: AL Florida War (Seminole Indians) - 1836 Cherokee Disturbances - 1836-1838; State: GA Cherokee Disturbances - 1836-1839; State: TN Cherokee Disturbances - 1837-1838; State: NC War of 1837-1838 (2nd FL Campaign); State: LA Indian Wars in Texas - 1849-1851 Patriot War - 1838-1839; State: MI Patriot War - 1838; State: NY Mexican War - 1848 Please see my web site at - http://www.impactvr.com/DCResearch/ <---- [last slash is necessary] to see the full range of records that I research ... Should you be interested in any of these records, as is customary in these endeavors, please send a Check or Money Order to: Mr. Michael O. Anderson 1425 - 4th Street, S.W. # A-212 Washington, D.C. 20024 Checks should me made out in my name .. I schedule my research in the order by which funds are received and do not begin until then; normal turnaround time from receipt of funds to date of mailing is approximately 7 working days. I thank you ... Michael O. Anderson Independent Researcher at the National Archives Member - Military Order of the Stars and Bars Member - Sons of Confederate Veterans (S.C.V.) Member - Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War (S.U.V.C.W.) Member - Association of Professional Genealogists (A.P.G.) B.A. - History; M.S.

    07/27/2003 05:01:36
    1. Re: [MIWASHTE] Schumacher/Crosby/Walling/Taylor solving a mystery
    2. Samuella
    3. Where did you find pension files? Samuella :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bushy Hartman" <mihartman@homexpressway.net> To: <MIWASHTE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 4:36 AM Subject: [MIWASHTE] Schumacher/Crosby/Walling/Taylor solving a mystery > Hello all, > I just received the pension file on Christian Schumacher who married > Jennette (Taylor) Walling. This line has been very confusing to say the > least so this inch thick pension file which was chock full of information > verified some of the information that wonderful volunteers helped me locate. > I have documented up to Christian Schumacher who I will refer to for ease in > keeping them seperated as Jr but no where on any documents was he referred > to as such. I have Christian's death certificate but he was born too early > for a birth certificate. I am trying to find out positively who his parents > were. I feel it might be the Christian Sr. who was married to Ann M. or > Maria Ann but I have not found anything that I can document it with other > than the death certificate and that only confused matters. If there is > anyone out there who loves a great mystery I would love to hear from you > including those who were so wonderfully helpful before. I am sending this to > both counties since the family lived in both during their lifetimes. If you > connect or are interested in our web page concerning this family the url is > near the end of the email. > Thanks so much for any and all help you can provide. If you have any > suggestions on other documents I could send for please let me know. > Have a wonderful day > Bushy Hartman > ********************* > Item #1 > >From the pension file the following items were mentioned about the birth of > Christian Schumacher: > "My father was born was raised on Liberty and First streets" > [This provided by his daughter in a later letter but no mention of his > parents names or his actual birth date. From the city directories Christian > b. 1828 was living on Liberty and Second Streets.] > ********************* > Item #2 > "brother in law by marriage" was on two documents signed by Christian > Schumacher and John Schumacher on affidavits for Jennett to receive the > pension once Christian her husband had died. > [How can a bro-in-law be named the same as the husband? Could this be her > father-in-law who was still living when his son died?] > ********************* > Item #3 > Death certificate has his parents as Christian Schumacher and Catherine > Schumacher both born in Germany. I did not find any other > Schumacher/Shoemakers in the same area and Catherine was married to > Frederick and mother of the Senior Christian who was married to Ann M. or > Maria Ann from death cards. Is it possible the person who provided the > information could of mistaken his father and grandmother names as his > parents? > ********************** > Item #4 > Census- I could not find in the census where Christian [Jr.] is living with > his family. > > ********************** > Item #5 > Mary Henderson who uncovered that Jennette Taylor married Peter B. Walling > and had three children Eudora, Ford and Eugene. Peter abandoned Jennette > which mentions this in the pension file and he took her children with him to > live in Wayne Co., MI before 1870 census with his parents. > The pension file contains a documents showing that: "Peter B. Walling was > admitted to the Insane Asylum on 10 Oct 1881 and died 17 Oct 1882." > Jennette claims there was a divorce but could not remember where her > ex-husband was living at the time and could not provide the divorce > documents. > The pension file contains: Jennette Taylor married Christian Schumacher[Jr.] > on 11 Jan 1866 in Smithfield Center, Washtenaw Co., MI. I have not sent for > this document yet is the location the correct county? > ********************* > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mcguirecuz/ > McGuire Cousins which also contains the Schumacher line along with several > others in separate ancestry files. There are scanned documents and some > photos along with headstone photos. > > Frederick Schumacher b. 2 Apr 1812 Ger.; d. 31 Dec 1849 > ..m. Catherine Afeichardt b. 8 Dec 1808 Ger.; d. 24 Jan 1875 > ...ch: Christian Schumacher b. 23 Dec 1828 Ger.; d. 13 May 1897 > .....m. Ann M. ____, b. 1833 Ger., d. > ......ch: Christian Schumacher b. 14 Oct 1844, Ann Arbor, Washtenaw Co., MI; > d. 15 Jul 1886, Jackson Co., MI > ..........m. Jennette (Taylor) Walling, b. Nov 1837 NY; d. 11 Jan 1866 > Jackson Co., MI > >

    07/27/2003 04:38:15
    1. [MIWASHTE] Godfrey's in Washtenaw & Jackson County, MI
    2. Marilyn LeVeque
    3. To Godfrey researchers in Washtenaw County, MI. I am looking for parents/siblings/cousins, etc. of MARY "POLLY" GODFREY born March 26th, 1804 in NY. "POLLY" GODFREY married DANIEL TAINTER (sometimes spelled TAINTOR) in Washtenaw County, MI on May 29th, 1832. They went back to NY after their marriage, but returned to the Jackson County area of MI before 1846. Rives, Parma, Tompkins areas is where they resided over the 20 years or so after 1840. Daniel Tainter died in Jackson County, MI on March 29th, 1846. Polly "Tinter" is listed in the 1850 Jackson County Census with her children & next to Godfrey's. In 1860 she is using name of "Polly" Godfrey. Mary "Polly" Godfrey Tainter Godfrey died on February 12th, 1861, in Jackson County, MI. Their children are: Sarah Louisa Tainter, b. March 7th, 1833, married Nathan Gleason Fillmore JEFFORDS/JEFFERDS. Mary Ann Tainter, b. April 10th, 1835, died in Jackson County, MI on Jan. 30th, 1870. Miriam Tainter b. August 4th, 1837, died Ja. 8th, 1865, in Jackson County, MI. Daniel Augustus Tainter b. March 1st, 1839---my line & I know all history. Nancy Tainter b. August 4th, 1841, died in 1920's, never married. Norton Tainter, born Dec. 12th, 1845---died January 3rd, 1848 in Jackson County, MI. The daughters witnessed a marriage with a Richard Godfrey & they are living next to Thomas Godfrey, Ellen, Mira, Rob, etc. Does anyone know which Godfrey family she is related to in 1832? I believe she is a sister to David & Adonijah Godfrey or a cousin. Thank you for any help. Marilyn LeVeque

    07/27/2003 04:37:06
    1. [MIWASHTE] Peter B. Walling in 1870
    2. Marilyn LeVeque
    3. Well, I guess you can't hit "reply" so here is the inf. again for Mr. Hartman re: Peter B. Walling in 1870, Huron County, MI. I did not know I had a "fancy" font, so here we go, one more time to try & send a readable version of this message! To Mr. Hartman, In the 1870 MI Census online, your Peter B. Walling (age 36) is living in Huron County with his father Inman Walling (age 69) & mother, Sarah (age 72) & 2 of his children Eugene (10) & Ford (13). Inman Walling & Peter B. were born in NY & Sarah in NJ & kids in MI. Peter B. Walling is a "farmer" with 2300 dollars worth of assets claimed. I am looking for a Peter Wallin(g) born in England & orphaned in 1847, whose parents are Joseph & Susannah (Cook) Wallin, sometimes a "g" added. Sisters in MI are Mary (Wallin) Christian who lived in Calhoun County, MI & Carrie M. (Wallin) Brown they both died in Kalamazoo, MI. So I am aware of most Wallin,Walling's in MI. Marilyn

    07/27/2003 03:35:03