I think my John Oliver is actually buried in the brick wall. John was born in either VA or KY sometime around 1803 to 1805(most sources which is me and 2 cousins think VA) and showed up in PIke County Mo in 1833 where he married Diana Ellender Carpenter. He remained in Pike County (mind you NOT being a good boy!!) until he was "killed by a blast from a shotgun" in 1858. Don't know where he is buried. Don't know where he was born. He was a gambler, drinker and not a very nice man to his wife when drinking. In other words he was quite a scoundrel. I wish I could break this brick wall down. Anyone have any ideas?? Janis in AZ