Do you have William H. JOnes, Mary Ann Collins Jones, or Hugh E. Jones? Thanks Pat -----Original Message----- From: SSbr2Day@aol.com <SSbr2Day@aol.com> To: MISSISSIPPI-L@rootsweb.com <MISSISSIPPI-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, August 17, 2001 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [MISSISSIPPI] ROLLCALL--NAMES RESEARCHING >Researching: >Jones >Coleman >Dahl >Meredith >Poag >and possibly Goodwin (not sure if my great great grandmother was a Goodwin). > >Still Searching, >Sandra > > >==== MISSISSIPPI Mailing List ==== >Visit the Mississippi-L Website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~mississi >where you can both SUBSCRIBE and UNSUBSCRIBE with a click of the mouse. > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

Researching the following names; Edward Tucker Yalobusha Co., MS-Lincoln Co., TN-Carroll Co., AR-Sebastian Co., Ar. John Glen/Glenn Pendleton District, S.C.-Yalobusha Co., , MS-Limestone Co., AL Margaret Glenn Tucker Yalobusha Co., MS-Lincoln Co., TN-Carroll Co., AR John Scott-Covington Co., MS-Indian Territory, Choctaw Nation. William P. Merryman-TN-Georgia-Alabama-Indian Territory, Choctaw Nation.

Ray Popplewell Holt Jefferson Hurt Maxey Horner Schrock

Dear List and List Owner - Re: SS -5 and Letters to Senators Why is this being allowed to continue? It is just as bad as the virus chatter from last month. Many have tried subtly to remind us of the purpose of the list. The owner has the where with all to end it. Do you not realize that not only are you taking up the time and computer space of our personal computers, but also all this banter is also taking up valuable storage space in the List Archives? Please be considerate and send your statements to personal e-mail addresses, not to the list. Susan Peterson .

First, I apologize for adding something to this thread that has nothing to do with MS genealogy, but....... Way to go Wayne! I totally agree....I worked my rear end off for the 35 years civil service I gave the DoD (retired 1996). Worked many days hours after the normal 8 hour shift was over to make sure the job got done (no extra pay...I didn't even claim comp time the majority of the days!). Yes, I have a nice retirement annuity, but by gum, I earned it! Bennie W. White "Wayne E. Easter" wrote: > <snip> > > Fourth, and this is a personal reaction, as an employee of the Federal > Government (Dept of Defense) I really take exception to the blase' > presumption that Federal employees are overpaid, lazy, uncaring, and all the > other outrageous proclamations in this thread. All the people that I have > known in over 40 years of military and civil service have been dedicated > professionals who deserve better respect from the people they serve. > > Wayne E. Easter

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OK - here's a one-time effort to inject a little logic into this understandably emotional thread. First, let me state that $27.00 for a copy of a single record seems a little over the line . . . but - if an American citizen requests information from a Federal Agency, then under the law that Agency must research all available records and provide copies of all information available that is not in conflict with national security. It's not just a matter of walking to a file cabinet, lifting out a single record, and popping it into a copy machine. Incidentally, the Agency that collects those funds does not profit from them. Funds collected for such services go into the general budget fund. Second, the employees who work in the SSA, for example, are hired to serve the potential and the actual recipients of Social Security services. That means issuing SSANs, processing claims, and maintaining individual records. They are not hired to serve as no-cost records retrieval clerks for all us family historians. If you want extra service, you pay for it. Third, those records ARE NOT public records. They are the "property" of the individual that they cover and the Agency that administers public funds. Think about it . . . . do you really want me to be able to go on line and get information about you or your family that might enable some illegal activity that is detrimental to you? Fourth, and this is a personal reaction, as an employee of the Federal Government (Dept of Defense) I really take exception to the blase' presumption that Federal employees are overpaid, lazy, uncaring, and all the other outrageous proclamations in this thread. All the people that I have known in over 40 years of military and civil service have been dedicated professionals who deserve better respect from the people they serve. Wayne E. Easter -----Original Message----- From: Poupeejo@aol.com [mailto:Poupeejo@aol.com] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 6:34 AM To: MISSISSIPPI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MISSISSIPPI] Letter to Tommy Thompson on SS-5 In a message dated 8/16/01 7:12:58 AM Mountain Daylight Time, georgia64th@hotmail.com writes: > there should be no charge for public records and they should be on line for > us to research.  We as tax payers have already paid the wages of these > That is the way I see it too. Besides, the records belong to us, the public. The object of life has become to make more & more money for the sake of making more money, and nothing else seems to matter (for example: SERVICE). We need to speak up whenever and wherever we can, otherwise we are thought to be the silent dumb majority that will tolerate anything. ==== MISSISSIPPI Mailing List ==== To subscribe and Unsubscribe with ease, visit http://www.rootsweb.com/mississi and scroll down and click the appropriate link for the list you want, then click on Send ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

I have received notes from several people expressing their feeling about me referring to disabled and also the word most instead of some. If you are looking down on disable people and are afraid to be LUMPED with them then I am sorry for all of you. But forget about the one line I wrote that upset you all and take this protest of over charging to fruition. Maybe if every one will jump in here and write the letters of protest some thing will be done. Other wise the squabbling over who does what and what words were used are of no value to this cause. I love doing my genealogy and it saddens me that I can't continue with one of the best sources we have with the SS-5 card.

I would say Wayne, you knowledge of Scam is limited, There are scams that can get more information from the Government that is more secure that the Social Security I know for a fact that Governmental agencies are les productive that a Private contract, WHY. If you don't know you should find out. . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne E. Easter" <weaster@home.com> To: <MISSISSIPPI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 7:45 AM Subject: RE: [MISSISSIPPI] Letter to Tommy Thompson on SS-5 -**** a "bureaucrat's" perspective **** > OK - here's a one-time effort to inject a little logic into this > understandably emotional thread. > > First, let me state that $27.00 for a copy of a single record seems a little > over the line . . . but - if an American citizen requests information from a > Federal Agency, then under the law that Agency must research all available > records and provide copies of all information available that is not in > conflict with national security. It's not just a matter of walking to a > file cabinet, lifting out a single record, and popping it into a copy > machine. Incidentally, the Agency that collects those funds does not profit > from them. Funds collected for such services go into the general budget > fund. > > Second, the employees who work in the SSA, for example, are hired to serve > the potential and the actual recipients of Social Security services. That > means issuing SSANs, processing claims, and maintaining individual records. > They are not hired to serve as no-cost records retrieval clerks for all us > family historians. If you want extra service, you pay for it. > > Third, those records ARE NOT public records. They are the "property" of the > individual that they cover and the Agency that administers public funds. > Think about it . . . . do you really want me to be able to go on line and > get information about you or your family that might enable some illegal > activity that is detrimental to you? > > Fourth, and this is a personal reaction, as an employee of the Federal > Government (Dept of Defense) I really take exception to the blase' > presumption that Federal employees are overpaid, lazy, uncaring, and all the > other outrageous proclamations in this thread. All the people that I have > known in over 40 years of military and civil service have been dedicated > professionals who deserve better respect from the people they serve. > > Wayne E. Easter > > -----Original Message----- > From: Poupeejo@aol.com [mailto:Poupeejo@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 6:34 AM > To: MISSISSIPPI-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MISSISSIPPI] Letter to Tommy Thompson on SS-5 > > > In a message dated 8/16/01 7:12:58 AM Mountain Daylight Time, > georgia64th@hotmail.com writes: > > > > > there should be no charge for public records and they should be on line > for > > us to research. We as tax payers have already paid the wages of these > > > > > > That is the way I see it too. Besides, the records belong to us, the public. > The object of life has become to make more & more money for the sake of > making more money, and nothing else seems to matter (for example: SERVICE). > We need to speak up whenever and wherever we can, otherwise we are thought > to > be the silent dumb majority that will tolerate anything. > > > > > > ==== MISSISSIPPI Mailing List ==== > To subscribe and Unsubscribe with ease, visit > http://www.rootsweb.com/mississi and scroll down and click the appropriate > link for the list you want, then click on Send > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > > ==== MISSISSIPPI Mailing List ==== > To subscribe and Unsubscribe with ease, visit http://www.rootsweb.com/mississi and scroll down and click the appropriate link for the list you want, then click on Send > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > >

Mornin' Folks, I've been watching this thread, and even though I received a few objections, I let it run. Hoping it would run it's course. The subject matter isn't off-topic to genealogy in the general sence. It isn't specific to MS genealogy, however. I think it is now time to end it. There have been a few suggestions submitted to alert the officials of your concerns on the increase of charges. I would suggest you do whatever you think needs done for your own benefit. I have also seen a couple of mails that border on personal attacks, which is not acceptable. Please end this thread and let's get back to Mississippi Genealogy. I think we have about discussed as much as needs discussing on that subject. If you object to this letter - do so in private mail - not on the list. Thanks, Ken Hollingsworth

In a message dated 8/16/01 7:12:58 AM Mountain Daylight Time, georgia64th@hotmail.com writes: > there should be no charge for public records and they should be on line for > us to research.  We as tax payers have already paid the wages of these > That is the way I see it too. Besides, the records belong to us, the public. The object of life has become to make more & more money for the sake of making more money, and nothing else seems to matter (for example: SERVICE). We need to speak up whenever and wherever we can, otherwise we are thought to be the silent dumb majority that will tolerate anything.

In a message dated 8/16/01 8:45:48 PM Mountain Daylight Time, giegerg@hotmail.com writes: > They have forgotten what the Oath which they signed when they went to work > Agree 100%.

What the SSA and a lot of other Govt Agencies want you to do, is go away and not "bother" them... They have forgotten what the Oath which they signed when they went to work in Civil Service says...that they pledge to SERVE the people of this great Nation...and the increase in prices is designed to get you to stop "bothering" them...That is why it is so high... No way could an entry-level clerk cost that much, to provide that small service, and if they use higher level clerks, they are over- qualified... You can see, I have little sympathy for Government Workers, most of whom have a "cushy job" with tenure, and lots of benefits... To every one that doesn't want to SERVE the Public, get out of the way, there are ten more waiting in line to replace You... We still need a firestorm of mail upon Congress... Gerry >From: "Tree Mother" <tonin1@airmail.net> >To: MISSISSIPPI-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [MISSISSIPPI] Letter to Tommy Thompson on SS-5 >Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 12:12:37 -0500 > >Art: I don't think we are bad mouthing the government. It is just strange >that NARA and Soc.Sec. have increased their fees out of proportion to the >service they provide. Since Genealogy has become one of the most popular >activities these days, I truly believe that the powers that be are taking >us >for a ride. The excuse for the increase at SS was that they have do so much >more research for the public now. Well, wait a minute there boys, first of >all our taxes pay the wages for those GS-3/4 to open a file drawer and make >photocopies and also we have to provide them with the name and number on >the >form because they Do Not do searches for us. >I know how the government works or doesn't work because I am a federal >retiree who chose a early out rather than stay around with the desperate >and/or indifferent employees. Anyone who tries to do a good job is >ridiculed >and reminded to read their job description and the employee manual. Don't >Volunteer isn't just for military details! > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Art Morgan <artmorg@wt.net> >To: <MISSISSIPPI-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 9:47 PM >Subject: Re: [MISSISSIPPI] Letter to Tommy Thompson on SS-5 > > > > It seems to me that it would have been much more to the point to ask >Mr.. > > Thompson to give us an honest and straight forward explanation for why >his > > department found it necessary to raise the fees for these services. >It's > > possible you know that due to the increased number of people involved in >the > > genealogy process that the demands upon his office for this information > > justifies the fee increases. If it's possible for him to explain these > > increases I believe that he might be more than justified in charging >more > > money for this service. I would hope that those of us that depend upon >this > > information would be more than willing to pay a fair price for this >service > > rather than poor mouth the government on the basis that most of us are > > disabled, or on fixed incomes and have to depend on the government for > > another handout. I personally don't like being included in a category >that > > says most of us are in this position and that these increases put these > > services out of our reach. I don't think this is true and I believe it > > mars our collective position. If Mr. Davis wants to make this plea on >the > > basis of his own position then that's fine but don't put us all in that > > class. I believe when one takes this position with one of our appointed > > officials the result is that we are all painted with an unjustified >negative > > position and we do more harm than good. > > > > Art Morgan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bobbye Davis" <bobbye@microsped.com> > > To: <MISSISSIPPI-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 9:13 AM > > Subject: [MISSISSIPPI] Letter to Tommy Thompson on SS-5 > > > > > > > For those of you who would like to protest the increases in rates copy > > this > > > letter I sent to Sec. Tommy Thompson and sign your name to it.Maybe >with > > > enough protest we can get something done. > > > Secretary Tommy G. Thompson > > > U.S. Department of Health and Human Services > > > 200 Independence Avenue, SW, Room 639-G > > > Washington, DC 20201 > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Thompson, > > > > > > As an avid Genealogist it has come to the attention of my self and > > hundreds > > > of thousand of others that we have literally been struck down by the > > > increase in the price of the SS-5 form. > > > This has been one of the most valuable lower priced tools we have >had. > > They > > > have been $7.00 up until July 1,2001. Now the cost is $27.00 for just >less > > > than a half of a page of information. We usually have the correct SS > > number > > > written on the letter that is generated from the Ancestry.com web >site. > > So > > > it is not hard for them to be found. > > > Most people like me doing research are disabled and on fixed incomes. >So > > > the raise in fees puts us out of reach on this. A lot of us cannot > > travel > > > to look up records so we have to depend on volunteers,archives and on > > line > > > records. With these SS-5 records we can find missing birth dates, > > parents > > > names and ect. that may not be available elsewhere. > > > Isn't there something that can be done to get this fee lowered to a > > > reasonable level? > > > > > > Cordially, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MISSISSIPPI Mailing List ==== > > > Visit the Mississippi-L Website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~mississi > > > where you can both SUBSCRIBE and UNSUBSCRIBE with a click of the >mouse. > > > > > > ============================== > > > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > > > > > > > > > ==== MISSISSIPPI Mailing List ==== > > To subscribe and Unsubscribe with ease, visit >http://www.rootsweb.com/mississi and scroll down and click the appropriate >link for the list you want, then click on Send > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > Source for Family History Online. 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Bess, Thank you for sharing the early history of Mississippi site. We will really enjoy it. John

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Seeking info on Silvester M. Smith b 6 Aug 1883 AL possibly Marion or Franklin Counties married to _______ King any information is greatly appreciated

Seeking info on John Burton Smith b 17 July 1877 AL possibly Lamar or Mairon County married to (1)Meldonia Thomas children are Claude Evie Rachel Pearl Dessie Roy Elsie Virgil Travis ______________ (2nd wife) Unknown children Doyle Virginia Odis Leon Any information is greatly appreciated.

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Thanks Bobbye and cheers on your stand against the SSDI rate increase. Dawn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobbye Davis" <bobbye@microsped.com> To: <MISSISSIPPI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:10 PM Subject: [MISSISSIPPI] Buyers Beware/Watchdog Warning > http://www.ancestordetective.com/watchdog.htm#Warning > > > ==== MISSISSIPPI Mailing List ==== > Visit the Mississippi-L Website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~mississi > where you can both SUBSCRIBE and UNSUBSCRIBE with a click of the mouse. > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >