In a message dated 3/2/2004 5:49:19 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Did you have a relation to Mabel Wilson Dement? She was a teacher in Yazoo City,MS What is the timing on MS Dement? Were her parents from Yazoo City? Dover2

My father was born in 1898 and was unable to get a birth certificate because the courthouse burned to the ground. This is what I was told anyway. Jan >From: "Patsy V. Bostick" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [MISSISSIPPI] Re: Fannie (unknown) Smith >Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 13:26:46 -0600 > >There are marriage records in the Pike County courthouse after 1882. >An inquiry may find a marriage license for William Christian Smith and >Fannie > >In 1940 there were two funeral homes in McComb: >Catching's Funeral Home, 506 Maryland Ave., McComb, MS, 39648 >Hartman Funeral Home, 1801 Delaware Ave., McComb > If you can obtain a specific date from the funeral home the Library >likely >would check the newspaper on microfilm for an obituary for the date and >make a copy. > >The Library has a web site with links to the catalog including the >genealogy >collection. >http://www.pawls.lib.ms.us/ > >Patsy > > > >==== MISSISSIPPI Mailing List ==== >Visit the Mississippi-L Website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~mississi >where you can both SUBSCRIBE and UNSUBSCRIBE with a click of the mouse. > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

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MS did not have birth/death certificates in 1898. It was something like 1912. There may have been a notice in the newspaper depending on if the newspaper was told or if the family "had a standing" in the town/county. My dad was also born in 1898; I have located him on the 1900, 1910, 1920 & 1930 census--all with a different spelling of his name and at least one having him a female! He never lived long enough to collect S.S. and probably did not work at a job that would require a S. S. [logger, farmer, etc.] My mother, born in the early 1900's, applied for S.S. card in the mid-1950's. Social Security went back to the censuses, 1910 was the first census for her, and school records; she was born in one county, started school in another, and was in yet another by 1920 and by 1930 was back in her birth county. S. S. rooted all of this out and issued her a card based upon information that they found that collaborated a letter from someone present when she was born. S. S. gave her a copy of those papers to keep. I knew the county where my parents got married because my mom had given me her marriage license. Then somebody told me the county had no record of them being married there. I went to the county courthouse and ask for the book that had their wedding date. Going page by page until I located the marriage record. It had not been indexed and the index is what the clerks depend on when they're asked about a marriage. The clerk indexed the marriage for me some 50+ years after they married. If your dad or mom ever made application for a S.S. card, you can ask S.S. for a copy [for a fee] and that application usually lists the parents names; and the person's birth date, etc. Another thing, if you know where your parents died, contact that state's vital statistics office for a copy of death certificate. The d.c. will have some info [birth/place/death/place/where buried/and depending on who gave the info names of parents/spouse, etc.] The d.c. will also have a fee. When one of my children was born we were both fingerprinted, and baby had footprints done also. I guess that still may be somewhere in the hospital's old records. I don't know anything about accessing old hospital records. -----Original Message----- From: JANICE KNOWLTON <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, March 01, 2004 3:12 PM Subject: RE: [MISSISSIPPI] Re: Fannie (unknown) Smith >My father was born in 1898 and was unable to get a birth certificate because >the courthouse burned to the ground. This is what I was told anyway. > >Jan > > >>From: "Patsy V. Bostick" <[email protected]> >>Reply-To: [email protected] >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: [MISSISSIPPI] Re: Fannie (unknown) Smith >>Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 13:26:46 -0600 >> >>There are marriage records in the Pike County courthouse after 1882. >>An inquiry may find a marriage license for William Christian Smith and >>Fannie >> >>In 1940 there were two funeral homes in McComb: >>Catching's Funeral Home, 506 Maryland Ave., McComb, MS, 39648 >>Hartman Funeral Home, 1801 Delaware Ave., McComb >> If you can obtain a specific date from the funeral home the Library >>likely >>would check the newspaper on microfilm for an obituary for the date and >>make a copy. >> >>The Library has a web site with links to the catalog including the >>genealogy >>collection. >>http://www.pawls.lib.ms.us/ >> >>Patsy >> >> >> >>==== MISSISSIPPI Mailing List ==== >>Visit the Mississippi-L Website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~mississi >>where you can both SUBSCRIBE and UNSUBSCRIBE with a click of the mouse. >> >>============================== >>Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >>Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >> > > > >==== MISSISSIPPI Mailing List ==== >To subscribe and Unsubscribe with ease, visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~mississi and scroll down and click the appropriate link for the list you want, then click on Send > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > ==== MISSISSIPPI Mailing List ==== To subscribe and Unsubscribe with ease, visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~mississi and scroll down and click the appropriate link for the list you want, then click on Send ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

In Texas, delayed birth certificates were issued based on information provided by a close relative of the individual. It did not matter whether courthouse records had burned or not, since many births and deaths - particularly in rural areas - were never recorded. I have a copy of my mother's birth certificate. She was born in 1901. In 1947, her uncle provided information and signed an affidavit, which was part of the document, providing her a certificate of birth.

Does anyone know the original of the term "Four Pennies". I am a descendant of Isham Smith and Sarah Harbin. Isham died in Lawrence County, MS, 1836 or later. His connection to Billy Smith is unknown, but they all migrated from Franklin County, GA, together. Harold Graham ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [MISSISSIPPI] Hello Cousin Smith > In a message dated 3/1/2004 7:46:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > > Did you go all the way back to Captain Billy and the Four Pennies? That is > > to the American Revolution. > > Many of my Smiths served during the RW in Virginia and North Carolina, but > none of my Williams were called Captain Billy to my knowledge. > > > ==== MISSISSIPPI Mailing List ==== > Visit the Mississippi-L Website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~mississi > where you can both SUBSCRIBE and UNSUBSCRIBE with a click of the mouse. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Amen. Hallelujah! All of us wish the same thing about starting earlier when our relatives were still alive, but...we were busy with other things [not knowing that this would be so important to us later]. Keep up the good fight! Good hunting! Amy Redmon

Mississippi didn't keep vital records until 1912. My mother-in-law was born the same year as your father; she established her birthday by depositions of people attesting to have know her. The Episcopal and Catholic church keep christening records , otherwise the family Bible was the place to record family birth, marriage and death. Patsy

I don't know about your father but both my mother(b. in Texas, 1906) and my step-father (b. in Oklahoma, 1898) had to get delayed-birth certificates. This was allowed, even if the court house did burn(?). Do you know his parents names? Can you find them on the 1900 census? The 1880 indexing (soundex) system was created because of Social Security needs. Many people did get delayed certificates by consulting friends, aunts who could attest, etc. My step-father's sister is on his certificate as having delivered him. Maybe she did -- I don't know. Allene -----Original Message----- From: JANICE KNOWLTON <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, March 01, 2004 3:12 PM Subject: RE: [MISSISSIPPI] Re: Fannie (unknown) Smith >My father was born in 1898 and was unable to get a birth certificate because >the courthouse burned to the ground. This is what I was told anyway. > >Jan > > >>From: "Patsy V. Bostick" <[email protected]> >>Reply-To: [email protected] >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: [MISSISSIPPI] Re: Fannie (unknown) Smith >>Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 13:26:46 -0600 >> >>There are marriage records in the Pike County courthouse after 1882. >>An inquiry may find a marriage license for William Christian Smith and >>Fannie >> >>In 1940 there were two funeral homes in McComb: >>Catching's Funeral Home, 506 Maryland Ave., McComb, MS, 39648 >>Hartman Funeral Home, 1801 Delaware Ave., McComb >> If you can obtain a specific date from the funeral home the Library >>likely >>would check the newspaper on microfilm for an obituary for the date and >>make a copy. >> >>The Library has a web site with links to the catalog including the >>genealogy >>collection. >>http://www.pawls.lib.ms.us/ >> >>Patsy >> >> >> >>==== MISSISSIPPI Mailing List ==== >>Visit the Mississippi-L Website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~mississi >>where you can both SUBSCRIBE and UNSUBSCRIBE with a click of the mouse. >> >>============================== >>Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >>Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >> > > > >==== MISSISSIPPI Mailing List ==== >To subscribe and Unsubscribe with ease, visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~mississi and scroll down and click the appropriate link for the list you want, then click on Send > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Jim we have no proof of Nancy McELVANY's name being "HARRIS". Do you have any proof of this? We or I only have Nancy McELVANY. The cousins think her name was Nancy Ann Missouri there is no proof other then the Nancy. I have no proof. A grand-daughter was named Nancy Ann Missouri so they assume her name was that. We have Nancy McELVANY (spelled several ways) b. abt 1787 S. C. I have found no marriage for her and Robert P. We only have his probate and census records to prove Nancy. I know Nancy is also a nickname for Ann. What fun it is. :) Thank you, Vickye White

I would like to announce the publication of my new book, "The Third Battalion Mississippi Infantry and the 45th Mississippi Regiment: A Civil War History" (McFarland & Co., Inc., Publishers, 2004, ISBN: 0-7864-1649-1). There will be a book signing on Thursday, March 4th at Main Street Books, 205 Main Street, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, from 4 to 6 p.m. For more information or to reserve a book, you can call Main Street Books at 601-584-6970. The book, which contains a number of previously unpublished diaries, letters, and photos, (and a complete annotated roster) will be of interest to military history and family history buffs, alike. More than just a regimental history, the book is a history of the war (and of the Army of Tennessee's part in it) from the viewpoint of not only the common soldier in the Third Mississippi Battalion, and their family and friends back home, but of the specific Federal units they fought against. Some of you may know your ancestor was in, for example, The McNair Rifles, and not realize that they became Company E of the Third Battalion Mississippi Infantry/45th Mississippi Regiment. The companies were: Company A. The Duncan Riflemen Company B. The Insurgents of Itawamba County Company C. The Mississippi Rebels of Noxubee County Company D. The Choctaw Rough and Readies Company E. The McNair Rifles Company F. The Tippah Highlanders Company G. The Mississippi Volunteers of Pontotoc County Company H. (from the 27th Alabama, mid-April 1862 to 29 Nov 1862) Company I. (From the 27th Alabama, mid-April to 29 Nov 1862) Company K. The Charlton Rebels Thank you. David Williamson --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail

Hi everyone, just wanted to jump in and say hi to all the cousins. I am also a descendant of Captain Billy Smith and Delilah Kees through Perry/Pleasant/Albert/Lela..................My paternal grandparents were Prentiss Clifton Sutton and Lela Smith. Other Mississippi names in the area for me are Case, Rembert,Jordan,Chandler,Kees,Minyard,Lang,Jackson and others. Kathy

Does anyone know if the Chasons have a Chason's rootsweb.com address? I am looking for an address that I have lost from one of the Chason's family. The picture I have is of Ann McGuire, Woulard, Chason of Wayne and Green County, Mississippi. One picture is of Ann by herself and the other is of Ollie, Ann, Maxie and Eve. Ollie is a family name of the Woulards. of Mississippi. The address I'm looking for might be in Alabama. Washington County and Wayne and Green County are on the State Line. My gr gr uncle Ben Woulard, Jr. was married to Ann McGuire Woulard, the mother of Ann McGuire Woulard Chason. Thanks for any help. Sandra maiden name Waldrop Georgia

I believe I was in contact with you some years ago. I am related to William Smith and Delila Kees. My great grandfather was William Christian Smith b. Nov. 11, 1842 in Brookhaven, Lawrence Co. MS, d. September 14, 1918 in McComb, Pike Co., MS. He was married to Martha Emeline Lea, b. November 24, 1842 in Lawrence Co., MS and d. July 9, 1897 in McComb. I am always looking for information on their children. My grandmother was Lula Elizabeth Smith b. Feb. 11, 1874 and d. May 27, 1917 in McComb. She was married to William Franklin Johnson. After Martha's death William married Fannie C. Unknown, from her tombstone in Hollywood Cemetery I know she was born in 1863 and died in 1940. All I know is she was very kind to my father and he visited her when he was in the area. William and Fannie had a daughter Margarite Smith b. December 24, 1898. My mother told me that Margarite had an illegitimate child. In the 1920 census I found Geneva Smith living with her grandmother Fannie Smith in McComb. The granddaughter is 3 1/2 so she was born about 1917. I'm looking for any information on Margarite and Geneva. My father was also born in 1898 and he and his mother lived with William and Fannie so Margarite and my father were raised together. I'm sorry but I don't remember line is yours. Jan >From: "Edward Hall" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [MISSISSIPPI] Hello Cousin Smith >Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 04:46:13 -0800 > >I am a Smith, and yes, indeed, I know what you mean. It took me about >twenty >years or so to get mine sorted just to 1700, as they were all named John >and >William, In the early seventies when I was sorting Smiths, genealogy was >not >so popular, there was no internet, and no one had previously taken the >incentive to tackle them. I had to begin as they say, from "scratch". > >Did you go all the way back to Captain Billy and the Four Pennies? That is >to the American Revolution. The Turners who married into the Smiths are >direct lines to me. The Smiths are direct lines via marriage and some of >them go round and round if you know what I mean. So you can have an >Uncle-Cousin etc. relationship or have someone who married once into the >family, then divorced and then remarried back into the family lines. And >all with children. > >By the way ever hear of Barefoot Benny Hall? 30 wives, 99 children...With >that many to feed, no wonder he was barefoot. (Smile) For years I did not >think we were related, then I found out we were. What a tangled mess to >unweave that was. So it is important to get up to date contacts in your >base also. Why do we go to family reunions if not to get that updated info >on who all had babies etc. to add to data base. That and home cooking of >course. (smile) > >SIN > > > >==== MISSISSIPPI Mailing List ==== >To subscribe and Unsubscribe with ease, visit >http://www.rootsweb.com/~mississi and scroll down and click the appropriate >link for the list you want, then click on Send > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

I am trying to find my ggrandmother Mary Smith from Brooklyn NY who married Jacob Ruppert I went to a Brooklyn NY site and they told me they didn't allow jokeing there it wzas serious business...well i am serious I know they were on the 1910 census but from there she is gone and so is he Any one have any suggestions?? Evidently Jacob Ruppert is nearly as common a German name as Mary Smith thank you Janice [email protected]

There are marriage records in the Pike County courthouse after 1882. An inquiry may find a marriage license for William Christian Smith and Fannie In 1940 there were two funeral homes in McComb: Catching's Funeral Home, 506 Maryland Ave., McComb, MS, 39648 Hartman Funeral Home, 1801 Delaware Ave., McComb If you can obtain a specific date from the funeral home the Library likely would check the newspaper on microfilm for an obituary for the date and make a copy. The Library has a web site with links to the catalog including the genealogy collection. http://www.pawls.lib.ms.us/ Patsy

I have some taped info from my daddy and uncle. everyone is dead now but my 91 year old mother. what she doesn't know is when I am speaking to her on the phone(she lives in a different city)if she starts talking and telling me things, I am listening and writing at the same time. I started so late in life with genealogy and by this time all my Aunts, Uncles and Grandparents even my daddy were dead so I have had to mostly rely on the internet and my cousin going to various states to gather sources and documents. sure wish I had known I was going to get so addicted to genealogy. Carlene

In a message dated 3/1/2004 7:46:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Did you go all the way back to Captain Billy and the Four Pennies? That is > to the American Revolution. Many of my Smiths served during the RW in Virginia and North Carolina, but none of my Williams were called Captain Billy to my knowledge.

You may want to give a look to the following http://www.tngennet.org/civilwar/confvet/ http://www.csa-dixie.com/generalleetoreareditorial.htm http://www.mississippiscv.org/MS_Units/16th_MS_INF.htm -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 9:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [MISSISSIPPI] The magazine THE CONFEDERATE VETERAN We are looking for an article concerning General N. H. Harris of Natchez, MS. The reference that we have is Page 70, 1894 (or 1895). Does anyone have the CD or Hardcopy of this series of magazines? Can you point us toward someone who does. Lastly is there some site on the net where the magazine can be found. Gratefully Dover2 ==== MISSISSIPPI Mailing List ==== To subscribe and Unsubscribe with ease, visit http://www.rootsweb.com/~mississi and scroll down and click the appropriate link for the list you want, then click on Send ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Is this the one you are looking for? regards, pat creel Bugge, C`pt. Simon Harry born 27 March, 1854 died` 14 May, 1928 buried Greenwood Cemetery. Fa: Paul Bugge born Germany, Mo: born Germany. http://members.tripod.com/~DAllen1989/Death-Records.html