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    1. Re: [MISSISSIPPI] Re:1870 census lookup please
    2. Ken Hollingsworth
    3. From: <MMama1@aol.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 6:03 PM 1870 Tippah County, MS Census records is listed the following: Ezekiel Wall 63 MW Farmer $1200 $1000 TN Harriet Wall 45 FW Keeping house $500 AL Susan Wall 14 FW At School MS Margaret F Wall 10 FW At School MS Hope this is the family you are looking for. Have a blessed day, TTYL Marie

    09/08/2004 02:09:02
    1. Daniel 'Kirk' Fordice Jr., obit
    2. Ken Hollingsworth
    3. From: "pat creel" <patcreel@cableone.net> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 2:07 PM [copied from Jackson, MS Newspaper] September 8, 2004 Daniel 'Kirk' Fordice Jr. Madison Daniel Kirkwood "Kirk" Fordice, Jr., former Governor of Mississippi from 1992 to 2000, died Tuesday, September 7, 2004, at the University of Mississippi Medical Center in Jackson, MS. Visitation and viewing for the public will be from 10:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. Thursday, September 9, 2004, in the Rotunda of the Mississippi State Capitol. There will be a private visitation for family and friends from 7:00 to 9:00 p.m. Thursday at Wright & Ferguson Funeral Home on High Street. Funeral services will be at 10:00 a.m. Friday, September 10, at First Baptist Church of Jackson, with burial following in Parkway Memorial Cemetery. He was born February 10, 1934 in Memphis, TN. After graduation from East High School, where he was president of the student body, a varsity football player, a swimmer, and Commander of the ROTC Battalion, Fordice attended Purdue University, earning a bachelor's degree in civil engineering in 1966, and a masters degree in industrial management in 1957. In 1996, he received the Civil Engineering Achievement Award through the Purdue University School of Engineering. He was a life member of Sigma Chi Fraternity. In 1994, Sigma Chi honored him with its prestigious Significant Sig Award. Following graduate school, Fordice served two years active duty as an engineer officer in the First Infantry Division of the U. S. Army. He served eighteen more years in the Army Reserve, and retired in 1977 from the Reserve with the rank of Colonel at age 43. Fordice was former CEO of Fordice Construction Company, a heavy-construction general contracting firm. Fordice became national president of the Associated General Contractors of America (AGC) in 1990. In 1992, AGC, whose 32,000 member companies employ 3.5 million people, presented its "Man of the Year" award to Governor Fordice, the first time the award had ever gone to a member of the association. On January 14, 1992, Fordice became Mississippi's sixty-first governor, making him the first Republican elected as its chief executive in 118 years. Fordice, in conjunction with the Mississippi Legislature, set about returning the state to fiscal integrity; maximizing its economic development potential, emphasizing accountability in education at all levels, and cutting taxes. On November 7, 1995, Mississippians went to the polls and ensured Fordice yet another place in Mississippi history as the only Mississippi Governor in the twentieth century elected to serve two consecutive four-year terms, and as only the second governor to do so since statehood in 1817. During the 1997 legislative session, Governor Fordice proposed and signed into law legislation to eliminate the marriage penalty in the state income tax code; created charter schools, banned same-sex marriages and partial-birth abortions. In 1998, the Governor's Commission on Criminal Justice Reform recommended several bills that were passed by the Legislature. These bills included a Crime Victim's Bill of Rights, a Victim's Rights Constitutional Amendment, and death penalty reform measures. The Commission was appointed by Governor Fordice to present legislation on death penalty reform and victim's rights to the Legislature. In addition, other legislative agenda items proposed by Governor Fordice were enacted, including a $6,000 raise for Master Teachers and the creation of a statewide trauma care network. Governor Fordice was a registered professional engineer, a fellow of the American Society of Civil Engineers and past-president of its Vicksburg branch. Fordice was an avid outdoorsman and horseman. He competed regularly in cutting-horse competitions throughout Mississippi and has won titles in these competitions. He is a member of both Game Conservation International and the Safari Club International, and has listings in Rowlands and Wards and SCI Big Game record books. Fordice has received several SCI awards. He was also an active pilot and held a commercial pilot's license with instrument and multi-engine ratings. He has logged more than five thousand hours as pilot in command and is a QB. Being term-limited, Fordice completed his eight years as governor on January 17, 2000. Governor Fordice is survived by Former First Lady Pat Fordice; daughter, Angela and husband David Roselle of Vicksburg; sons, Dan and wife Ann Claire Fordice of Vicksburg, Hunter and wife Sallie Fordice of Vicksburg, and Jim and wife Sarina Fordice of Nashville, TN; 12 grandchildren; sister, Grace and husband William Holt of Monticello, AR; numerous nieces and nephews; and his dog, Lance. In lieu of flowers the family has requested that memorials be made to the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society, 405 Fontaine Place, Ridgeland, MS 39157; The Southern Heritage Air Museum, P. 0. Box 821568, Vicksburg, MS 39182; or the Young America Foundation, % the Ronald Reagan Ranch Center, 217 State Street, Santa Barbara, CA 93101.

    09/08/2004 10:24:13
    1. Re:1870 census lookup please
    2. Ken Hollingsworth
    3. From: <SewzArt@aol.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 11:30 AM Just hoping that someone has acess to the 1870 Benton co. census and can tell me what children are on it with parents Ezekiel Wall (about 70 yrs. old) or Walls. and wife, Harriett thanks so much, sue in Al.

    09/08/2004 10:22:31
    1. Record of Disposition of Destitute
    2. Ken Hollingsworth
    3. From: "pat creel" <patcreel@cableone.net> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 7:41 AM [copied - posted today on Daily Uploads] Record of Disposition of Destitute Orphans in Orleans Parish, LA, starting 1887 http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/la/orleans/history/louisdev/orphans/1887orph.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/la/orleans/history/louisdev/orphans/1888orph.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/la/orleans/history/louisdev/orphans/188991or.txt

    09/08/2004 10:21:54
    1. Another book
    2. Ken Hollingsworth
    3. From: "Carolyn Sue Howard" <CarolynSHoward@comcast.net> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 10:46 AM How about the book, The Roster of Confederate Soldiers, 1861-1865 by Janet B. Hewett? Does anybody have that book and could do a lookup? Thanks for your response. Sue Howard

    09/08/2004 10:21:07
    1. Book on the Confederacy
    2. Ken Hollingsworth
    3. From: "Carolyn Sue Howard" <CarolynSHoward@comcast.net> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 10:07 AM Is there anybody out there who owns the book, The official and Statistical Register of the State of Mississippi 1908 by Dunbar Rowland? If so, would you be willing to do a lookup for me? Thanks for your response. Sue Howard

    09/08/2004 10:20:38
    1. Researcher re J. A. Johnson
    2. Ken Hollingsworth
    3. NOTE: any referrals you wish to pass on to Carolyn must be done off-list. Of course - any help you can offer toward her genealogy is welcomed. - Ken From: "Carolyn Sue Howard" <CarolynSHoward@comcast.net> Cc: <JOHNSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 12:31 PM Is there anyone anybody can recommend for me to hire to find out what happened to my great grandfather during the Civil War? It is the most burning question I have with regard to my genealogy. As I have told this list several times before, my great grandfather, Joseph Abner JOHNSON, aka "Joab" Johnson, and listed on the 1860 census as "J. A. Johnson", just simply disappeared after 1860. He was listed on the 1860 Neshoba Co. census with wife, Mary Undine (Brown) Johnson, and one child - my grandfather, John R. Johnson, who had been born in 1859. They had come to Neshoba Co. sometime between 1858 and 1859 after their marriage in Pontotoc Co. in July of 1858. Not sure why they went there. He may have had one brother who also went down there or to another county close by. His name was Benjamin Johnson. By 1861, "Joab" and Mary had had their second child - James H. Johnson (who, by the way, is the ancestor of one of Philadelphia, MS's former citizens, now deceased - Etna ! B. (Johnson) Winstead. She married Arthur Winstead, former U.S. Congressman from Neshoba Co.) At any rate, I believe that "Joab" must have joined up with the Confederate Army, went off to serve, and never came back. In only a few years after 1861, his wife, Mary Undine, remarried to a neighboring widower by the name of Judge Samuel McNeil who was much, much older than she, and in fact, had a grown son and a young daughter. They apparently did have one child together. BUT, my great grandfather was not heard of ever again, as far as I can tell. Maybe Mary was destitute, with two very young toddlers, and thought that Joab had been killed in the War, and was forced to marry Judge McNeil. I just don't know. I'm sure that if Joab came back and found this out, it was quite a shock! However, I feel that he must have been killed and I just don't know where or when, or where he is buried. Any suggestions on hiring somebody - somebody who won't charge an arm and a leg?!!! Oh, and also, I previously had thought that he was the Joseph A. Johnson listed as being in the 40! th Mississippi Infantry, better known as the "Neshoba Tigers", but I no longer believe that, so I don't know what unit he was with. Thanks for any help you can give me. Sorry for this long e-mail. Sue (Johnson) Howard

    09/07/2004 10:19:05
    1. Re: [MISSISSIPPI] Civil War Information
    2. Ken Hollingsworth
    3. From: edward hall [mailto:Sinapu48@lewiston.com] Sent: 9/7/2004 10:37:31 AM > Kathy: > > Am wondering if you have two or three men mixed up here? I can double check > my base if you want me to. Not sure what I can find if anything, but will > help all I can. > Sin > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kathy Storm" <kestorm@cox.net> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 4:09 AM > > > > I have just received military records for my ancestor, Lewis Kenoyer, of > > Canton, Madison County, MS. > > > > He enlisted Sept 4, 1862 in Canton, Ms, and served with King's State > Troops. > > Unsure of when this service ended but a company muster roll card for Jan & > > Feb 1863 says that he was detailed to make coffins in 16 Jan/63 by order > of > > Gen. Tupper (?). > > > > A second record shows he enlisted Aug 25, 1864 and another muster card > shows > > enlistment on Sept 21, 1864. Both say he was not paid, and enlisted for > the > > duration of war. The last card on this states "Roll of Prisoners of War > of > > Military Post, Canton, Miss, Confederate States Army, commanded by Lt. W. > J. > > Mosby, surrendered at Citronelle, Ala, by Lieut. Gen. R. Taylor, C. S. A. > to > > Maj. Gen. E. R. S. Canby, U. S. A., May 4, 1865, and paroled at Jackson, > > Miss., May 13, 1865." > > > > Any thoughts or ideas where to look next? I live in New Orleans and can't > > get to Jackson to do on-site research for a while. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > Kathy Storm > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

    09/07/2004 06:11:04
    1. Re: [MISSISSIPPI] Murphey/Murphy/Findley
    2. Ken Hollingsworth
    3. From: edward hall [mailto:Sinapu48@lewiston.com] Sent: 9/7/2004 10:41:11 AM > Sharon: > Are you researching Finley ? or Findley? > > I have two Findleys who married into Pace. > > SIN > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <WVedell@aol.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 1:03 PM > > > > On the 16th of July 1844, Sarah E. Murphey/Murphy married Evins/Evans > > Findley > > in Old Tishomingo Co MS. Evin/Evan Findley/Finley also served on the > > Circuit > > Court jury during March and September of 1846. I would appreciate any > > information on these families. > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > Sharron > >

    09/07/2004 06:09:13
    1. ROHR/LAAGE/GEORGE/ROGERS
    2. Ken Hollingsworth
    3. From: "Kate Arthur" <katearthur@blueyonder.co.uk> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 2:45 AM I am a new subscriber and am looking for any information about the above surnames which lived in and around Pascagoula. The GEORGE family originally came from Cornwall UK Samuel GEORGE died in Hattiesburg John GEORGE died in New Orleans Richard GEORGE died in Biloxi Because I live in UK I do not know what is available freely on the web for these areas. Regards Kate

    09/07/2004 12:33:18
    1. Re: [MISSISSIPPI] Johnson
    2. Ken Hollingsworth
    3. From: <Tjtemple@aol.com> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 6:51 PM Thanks for posting the Orbit on JOHNSON Family. I am still trying to find William F. Johnson born 1856 in Jones County, Ms. Married Almedia (Almedea) Temples born 1862 in Jones County Ms. They Married in 1891. Believed they moved to Forest County, Ms. Need help in finding their Grave Sites. Would like to hear from any Family member. Thomas Temple-s

    09/06/2004 12:57:58
    1. Johnson
    2. Ken Hollingsworth
    3. From: "Shirley Breazeale" <shirleyb@netdoor.com> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 2:21 PM For anyone researching Johnson in Mississippi, this obit appeared in the Meridian Star on Saturday, September 4, 2004 NAVIES IRENE JOHNSON Graveside services for Navies Irene Johnson will be held today at 10 a.m. at Johnson Family Cemetery in the Good Hope Community with the Rev. Tony Blanchard officiating. McClain-Hayes Funeral Service is in charge of arrangements. Mrs. Johnson, 86, of Philadelphia, died Friday, Sept. 3, 2004 at Heartfelt Hospice in Meridian. Survivors include her sons, Daniel Johnson of Philadelphia and David Johnson of Florence; a daughter, Sylvia Franklin of Philadelphia, eight grandchildren, 13 great- grandchildren; three great-great-grandchildren; a sister, Myra Jane Moore of Ridgeland; and a brother, Ned Moorehead of Pascagoula. She was preceded in death by her husband Exo Johnson Visitation will be held today from 8 a.m. - 9:30 a.m. at the funeral home.

    09/06/2004 09:33:52
    1. Re: [MISSISSIPPI] Re: Lookup for artical on "Killing of Dr. J. W. Mitchner 18...
    2. Ken Hollingsworth
    3. From: <Dlahorton@aol.com> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 1:01 PM Thank You so very much.. I appreciate your help. I will see if I can find it.. Louise

    09/06/2004 07:31:15
    1. Re: Lookup for artical on "Killing of Dr. J. W. Mitchner 1863"
    2. Ken Hollingsworth
    3. From: "PAT KOGER" <palogc@catt.com> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 11:30 AM I just checked Persi and it says LDS has this volume. Pat Koger ----- Original Message ----- | From: <Dlahorton@aol.com> | Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 2:52 PM | | I need help... Please.. I have found the following information regarding a | Webb that I believe may be from my Webb family in Itawamba/Lee Co. Miss... | this | artical apparently came from | Itawamba settler magazine Vol. XII No. 3 Fall 1992 pg 134. And there was | evidently a followup artical in the next edition of the same mag... I am | particularly interested in the information on Mrs. Jerome Webb and the Webb | family. | | | | | \ | | (http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/print.cgi?ms/itaw amba::1139.html) | Killing of Dr. J. W. Mitchner 1863 | | | In August of 1863 Dr. John W. Mitchener was murdered on the streets of | Mooreville, doctor Mitchner was the son of M. D. Mitchener who can be found | on the | 1850 and 1860 census of Itawamba Co. Ms. as follows: | | | It goes on to say that General Davis conducted the trial in which Isaac | Sullivan was accused of murdering Dr. John W. Mitchener. Mrs. Jerome webb | being a | witness on her porch . Then it gives some of the webb family records. | | 1870 census Lee County Ms. | | Jerome Webb 40 Tn Blacksmith | Margaret 39 AL | Wm. S. 15 Ms | Nannie 13 Ms | John B. 11 ms | Eliza A. 9 Ms | Hannah 7 Ms | Horace 5 Ms | Anna 1 ms | | | 1870 Census Lee Co. Miss Dist 5 | P.o. Mooreville Sept 1870 Pg.546 image 586 Ancestry.com | Line 13 Household 517 | | L13 517 577Webb, Jerome 40 M W Farm Labor Alab | Margaret 25 F W Keeps House Miss | William 15 M W Miss | Nannie 12 F W Miss | John 7 M W Miss | Frances 5 F W Miss | Martha 4 F W Miss | Anna 2 F W Miss | | There are 2 Jerome Webb's in Lee Co. Miss in 1870, almost identical with | some exceptions.. I am not sure which is which or if they are one in the | same.. | However the artical refered to above may streighten this out for me.. | IF anyone can help me I would truly appreciate it.. | THANKS ahead of time for any help that anyone can give me.. | Louise Kay Horton |

    09/06/2004 05:42:19
    1. Lookup for artical on "Killing of Dr. J. W. Mitchner 1863"
    2. Ken Hollingsworth
    3. From: <Dlahorton@aol.com> Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 2:52 PM I need help... Please.. I have found the following information regarding a Webb that I believe may be from my Webb family in Itawamba/Lee Co. Miss... this artical apparently came from Itawamba settler magazine Vol. XII No. 3 Fall 1992 pg 134. And there was evidently a followup artical in the next edition of the same mag... I am particularly interested in the information on Mrs. Jerome Webb and the Webb family. \ (http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/print.cgi?ms/itawamba::1139.html) Killing of Dr. J. W. Mitchner 1863 In August of 1863 Dr. John W. Mitchener was murdered on the streets of Mooreville, doctor Mitchner was the son of M. D. Mitchener who can be found on the 1850 and 1860 census of Itawamba Co. Ms. as follows: It goes on to say that General Davis conducted the trial in which Isaac Sullivan was accused of murdering Dr. John W. Mitchener. Mrs. Jerome webb being a witness on her porch . Then it gives some of the webb family records. 1870 census Lee County Ms. Jerome Webb 40 Tn Blacksmith Margaret 39 AL Wm. S. 15 Ms Nannie 13 Ms John B. 11 ms Eliza A. 9 Ms Hannah 7 Ms Horace 5 Ms Anna 1 ms 1870 Census Lee Co. Miss Dist 5 P.o. Mooreville Sept 1870 Pg.546 image 586 Ancestry.com Line 13 Household 517 L13 517 577Webb, Jerome 40 M W Farm Labor Alab Margaret 25 F W Keeps House Miss William 15 M W Miss Nannie 12 F W Miss John 7 M W Miss Frances 5 F W Miss Martha 4 F W Miss Anna 2 F W Miss There are 2 Jerome Webb's in Lee Co. Miss in 1870, almost identical with some exceptions.. I am not sure which is which or if they are one in the same.. However the artical refered to above may streighten this out for me.. IF anyone can help me I would truly appreciate it.. THANKS ahead of time for any help that anyone can give me.. Louise Kay Horton

    09/05/2004 09:06:19
    1. Elbert Gatlin
    2. Ken Hollingsworth
    3. From: <Wilson950@aol.com> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 11:40 AM Anyone researching Elbert Gatlin b. 1841 in Pike Co. Mississippi. He had two wives. Amanda Adelaide Ada Spencer b. 1858. They had 3 children: Lena b. 1870, Ernest L. b. 1870, and Claude A. b. 1872. he married 2nd Sarah Hazeltina Wilson/Williams on Jan. 15, 1879. They had a son Hollis Gatlin b. 1880. Hollis married Rhodie Tillman. Hollis and Rhodie had a son Robert Lee Gatlin. no info. Elbert's parents were William R. Gatlin and Angeline Allen. Thank you for any help. Johnie

    09/04/2004 07:25:57
    1. Thomas Gill
    2. Ken Hollingsworth
    3. From: <Wilson950@aol.com> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 6:59 AM Anyone out there researching Thomas and John Gill. Thomas Gill wife Hannah ? child: John b. 1728 in Columbia, Richland Co. South Carolina d. 1799 in Bogue Chitto, Mississippi, he married Mary Jackson b. abt. 1732 in Craven Co. South Carolina they married abt. 1753 in S.C. children: John Jr. and Mary b. 1759. she married John Bryan Hart They both died in Lawrence co. near Bogue Chitto, Mississippi. They had 9 children. Thanks. Johnie

    09/04/2004 02:16:22
    1. Austin Holbrook
    2. Ken Hollingsworth
    3. From: <Wilson950@aol.com> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 6:44 AM Anyone out there researching the Austin Holbrook family? Austin b. 1770 d. 1830 in Franklin Co. Ms. He married Mary LaFleur b. 1778 in Adams Co. Mississippi Territorry. Children: Easter, Margaret, Peter, Marson, Catherine. Easter b. abt. 1796 in Ms. married Charles Jones in Adams Co. Ms. in 1818. Her sister Margaret Mary married the brother of Charles Jones, Drury Jones b. 1785 in North Carolina. Margaret must have died soon after, because all i have Drury Jones' children were by Catherine Fisher. This Fisher is interesting because Catherine Holbrook, who is a sister of Margaret and Easter, married James Fisher. Can anyone help me? thanks. Johnie

    09/04/2004 02:15:21
    1. Samuel McCoy/McKoy
    2. Ken Hollingsworth
    3. From: <Wilson950@aol.com> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 6:23 AM I'm looking for info on Samuel McCoy/McKoy. All i know of him is: died in Amite County, Mississippi abt. 1817, his wife's name was Margaret ? she died abt. 1835. They had at least one daughter Margaret b. abt. 1794 in Richland Co. Camden Dist. South Carolina, she married James H. Sterling, in 1811 in Amite Co. Ms. They had at least 3 children: James, Samuel and Boubon. Her husband was living in Pike co. when he died. All of my info is unproven. Please help. Johnie

    09/04/2004 02:14:30
    1. Re: [MISSISSIPPI] Palmer/Koen - Palmer/Johnson - Palmer/Conn
    2. Ken Hollingsworth
    3. From: "Tree Mother" <tonin1@airmail.net> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 7:13 PM Hello Mary: I am interested in the Palmer family. Have been trying to track them in Greene Co. MS and trying to find material on the family as one of the daughters of Elleby Langford married W.W.Palmer. He may be Washington or Wash. He is mentioned in a land deed along with Elleby's other children. The daughter was in all likelihood deceased at this time which was around 1878. The date is a guess but a dig into files will bring to surface document in question. Another daughter was represented my her husband J. Mills who is said to have been in Alabama--Baldwin, Washington or Mobile Counties??? You are the first person to have posted anything regarding this Palmer family in all these years of searching. I hope we can share information and resolve some of the mysteries surrounding the Palmers. Tree Mother "She is insane, of course. The family history has become a mania for her." Hercule Poirot ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Justtrubl@aol.com> > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 11:30 AM > > > If someone has access to One Family Tree at ancestry.com I would appreciate > a > > lookup. I have been trying to prove out my 2nd great grandfather's parents > since 1978 > and still have not been able to make a connection to another Palmer family. > > Though a member to ancestry I do not have access to that particular phase. > > William Washington Palmer b 1819 GA d 1902 Washington County, Alabama. > > Parents thought to be John Palmer b about 1792 and married to Nancy unknown > maiden although at this point she may even have been a daughter instead of > wife. John had 7 children. Four of them we have found information on and > they > disappear. The other 3 are well documented. > > Children were: William, Thomas, Lominia, Louisa, Ann Marjorie, Mary and > Budley; all born GA, unknown county between 1808 and 1819 though Louisa was > born > in Alabama abt 1832. They migrated to Washington County, Alabama and > Greene > > County, Mississippi. In 1830, 1840 forward they are in Alabama except for > Thomas. He was in MS 1840 and 1850; Alabama in 1860 and disappears no > trace. > > There is a land deed for John Palmer in 1835 Alabama, but he is not found > after > 1840 census so believed he died between 1840 and 1850. Census records also > indicate that William's mother father were born in Georgia and the next time > you > see on the census it will say North Carolina. > > I have searched North and South Carolina, Virginia, MA and others as > possible > > entry points and still draw a blank. > > Lominia Palmer married Joseph Conn in November 1854, Alabama and disappears; > no trace of them anywhere. > > Louisa Palmer married Solomon Cribbs Feb 1860 and also disappears, no trace. > > One death record says he died in Lamar, Alabama but cannot find on census. > > Thomas and his wife Elizabeth Maiden unknown and four children are in the > 1860 Alabama census and they too disappear. > > Budley Palmer we never were able to find a marriage; he died between 1860 > and > > 1880. > > Ann Marjorie Palmer married Frederick Koen; well documented. > > Mary Palmer married Merriman Joiner aka Mesan Joiner; she apparently died > and > > he remarried in 1840 to Rachel Jones; they too documented. > > Nancy Palmer stays on the Washington County, Alabama census 1850, 1860, 1870 > and believed to have died between 1870 and 1880 as she is not on the 1880. > > William's grandmother (info just found) indicates his grandmother may have > been Ann Palmer but this is on a receipt found and none of us know who Ann > Palmer is. Unless of course, John's fatjer was married to Ann unknown (may > be > Smith) and Nancy Palmer was a daughter. > > Part of the problem may be that information at LDS Family History is > incorrect on William; not all, but some and have not been able to have them > correct. > Information on some of his children is also incorrect. > > I hope someone can help to solve this puzzle. Have everything from 1819 > forward and brick wall. I am posted on boards all over the place, various > names > for Palmer, Conn, Koen, Kahn, Joiner, counties, states and nothing. > > If you are a Palmer, please take time to see if we may connect some place. > Thank you and any input or suggestions appreciated. > > Mary > >

    09/03/2004 03:29:36