HI all! I am looking for information on my Wrocklage ancestors, and the following people who married into the family: Amman, Angst, Birchmeier/Birkmeyer, Bovine, Brotzman, Constine, Deitering, Feuerstein, Gasper, Gross, Groty, Hemker, Harris, Harrow, Irland, Kein, Kelbley, Kruska, Letterhos, Martin, Mitts, Perry, Princinsky (one of various spellings), Spitzley, Walser, Wendling, Wilson, Whitehill... I would greatly appreciate any information! Thanks. Elizabeth M. Wrocklage, NJ

I have Esther FULLER b. March 19, 1796 Otsego Co., NY; d. Sept. 10, 1898 Laingsburg, Shiawassee Co., MI. She m. Elizer KINNEY June 1816. I have Job Welton FULLER b. March 9, 1803 VT; d. after June 30, 1880 Bennington Twp., Shiawassee Co., MI. He m. Eliza GREGORY. I have Elizabeth FULLER b. abt. 1780 VT or NY. She m. James PHELPS abt. 1800 in NY. Elizabeth FULLER & Esther FULLER (above) were sisters. Rachel PHELPS b. Oct. 28, 1801 NY; d. Jan. 15, 1844 Shiawassee Co., MI. She m. Daniel M. ACKLEY abt. 1820 in NY. Frances D. KINNEY b. abt. 1820; d. ??. Buried at Laingsburg, Shiawassee Co., MI. She m. Milton PHELPS 1845 NY. George M. KINNEY b. July 8, 1823; d. Dec. 30, 1913 Laingsburg, Shiawassee Co., MI. Dyer PHELPS b. Oct. 9, 1811 Chenango Co., NY; d. Jan. 1, 1893. She m. Almira SODDAY abt. 1840. Seldon PHELPS b. 1807 NY; d. 1885 Shiawassee Co., MI. He m. Ruth REYNOLDS. Mason PHELPS b. Dec. 4, 1814 Delaware Co., OH; d. May 28, 1879 Shiawassee Co., MI. He m. Laura Jane LAING. Need more info on these families. Thanks. Lisa

Looking for Crim, Harris, Richardson, Loveland, Flanders, Vernon, Jacobs, Smith, Martin, Percy, Markley, Davis, Cope, Couch, Chapman, Miller, Mathis, Simmons, Ferguson, Hackett, Everett, Aamyx, Johnsoa, Trent..........

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I am looking for information on the Gaylord Ohio Colony that settled near the Knagg's Bridge area. On Schmidts Shiawassee site there is a little. I am looking for where in Ohio did they come from and some history on the families. The surnames of the people buried in the cemetery are listed in the subject line. Hope some one has some info on this. thanks, www.willett.org www.willett.org/forsale RAOGK Volunteer,Michigan Stedman.Willett.Lindsey.Fleming.Harman.Patton.Tereau.Hesch --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better

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Hi I to had a minister in the area you can call the Owosso Library they will have lists of the churches and ministers in the city directory of the year you are looking for but they will probably only check a couple so have as much info as possible. Valeria ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Rivers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 10:17 PM Subject: [MISHIAWA-L] Ministers in Owosso in 1914 > Is there a way to find out who were ministers in Owosso in 1914? A sister > to my grandfather was apparently raised by a minister from Owosso after > their mother died in 1914 and I'm trying to track her down. > > Thanks, > Nancy > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 4:05 AM Subject: [PAF5-Yahoo!] Digest Number 366 > > > > Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:39:18 -0700 > From: "Mark E. Gower" <[email protected]> > Subject: FORWARD: Massachusetts Public Records Closing Alert > > I apologize, in advance, however this subject is of the utmost of > importance. I implore you to copy the entire message below and forward > it on to others that can be of assistance in our effort to keep Public > Records Open. > > Sincerely, > Mark E. Gower > Mesa, Arizona, USA > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > - Massachusetts Public Records Closing Alert > > Access to public records threatens to be curtailed in many places. > Massachusetts is the latest state to consider closing access to records > that are vital to genealogists. The following was written by Sharon > Sergeant of the Massachusetts Genealogical Council: > > The Massachusetts Genealogical Council (MGC) board held an emergency > meeting this evening [July 12] in Waltham, Massachusetts to review the > text of an alarming, and recently introduced, Massachusetts House of > Representatives bill H5158 (see links below for issues, status and > contact information). > > The most pressing aspect of H5158, on preliminary review, is that it > would close > marriage and death records since 1950, as well as birth records after > 1910, to public access - including their indices! > > MGC is recommending that all Massachusetts residents contact their > Representative and that all non-resident Massachusetts researchers > contact a Massachusetts resident to represent their interests - > immediately as the formal sessions close on July 31st - but impromptu > sessions have sometimes been used to pass such legislation! (see > http://www.state.ma.us/legis/repdis01.htm for districts) > > The general content of the legislative protest letters should at least > cover the > following points, be sincere, personalized and not appear in a form > letter format: > > Dear (Representative Name): > > The Birth, Marriage and Death records (Vital Records) of the > Commonwealth have always been open to the public with few specific > exceptions. House Bill 5158, currently reported out to the Committee on > House Rules, would close Birth Records after 1910 and Marriage and Death > Records since 1950 to public access. > > We ask that you encourage further study of this Bill by the Committee on > House Rules and that you vote AGAINST this bill should it come to floor > vote. > > H5158 would affect every citizen of the Commonwealth. Among other things > it would: > > 1) block access to recent death records so that family medical histories > could not be ascertained; > > 2) increase expenses for persons needing to prove legitimate access to > the Vital > Records; > > 3) not affect the risks of identity fraud or theft which does not occur > from personal inspection of the Vital Records. > > Again I/we urge you to defeat H5158. > > Sincerely, > > Name > Address > Contact Info > > Additional notes on the preliminary review of this bill: > > The Massachusetts bill H5158 is purportedly a rewrite of H132 (see > http://www.state.ma.us/legis/bills/house/h00132.htm). However, the full > text of H5158 is not yet online and the MGC expects that further line by > line examination of the H5158 printed text (36 pages) will uncover other > issues of concern. > > In contrast, the MGC has been working on the Senate bill S2302 which may > be reviewed at http://www.state.ma.us/legis/bills/st02302.htm. > > All recent medical studies point to the statistical and anecdotal > importance of > medical information for multiple generations - and beyond immediate > lineal or lateral descent lines. > > The H5158 bill could also remove access to the actual primary source > record. It > contains such items as "... Such examination, at the discretion of the > Custodian, may be from an automated database. ..." > > The Birth, Marriage and Death records (Vital Records) of the > Commonwealth of > Massachusetts have always been open to the public with few specific > exceptions (see http://www.state.ma.us/legis/laws/mgl/gl-66-toc.htm). > However, House Bill 5158, currently reported out to the Committee on > House Rules, would close Birth Records after 1910 and Marriage and Death > Records since 1950 to public access - as of January 1, 2004 when the > inquirer must be proven to be ONLY the individual in question or the " > spouse, children, parent as named on birth record, legal guardian, > sibling, grandparent, grandchild, executor, authorized legal > representative or authorized genealogist designated by one of the > aforementioned persons in writing". > > Additionally, removing the indices from the public access will preclude > researchers from even being able to narrow down the likely candidates > for detailed record inspection - increasing the Catch-22 of having to > prove a 2 generation or less direct lineal connection to the records in > question - when that is the question! > > The H5158 bill does not provide funds for the expenditures of government > agencies that would have to shoulder the new custodian and > administrative responsibilities for records archiving and access > validation and/or refusal - such that even what the Custodian considers > legitimate access request may not be administered in a timely fashion if > the determination of legitimate access is not a funded administration > expense. > > Identity fraud or theft issue is a claimed goal H5158 bill without > regard to the > actual identity fraud methods used and documented by numerous > investigations - either in the old fashioned "complete fabrication", > "trash scouring" and wallet/home robbery, newspaper obituary targeting > and institutional insider records misuse - or the advent of the Internet > and other electronic transaction interceptions. Identity fraud thieves > are not prone to the methodical, time consuming and formal task of > searching and requesting the Vital Records. > > You may monitor the status of this bill and check for the full text > release at > http://www.state.ma.us/legis/history/h05158.htm > > People who have representatives who are on these committees may find > further > information here: > > HOUSE RULES > Room 167 > State House > Boston, MA 02133 > Telephone: (617) 722-2692 > > It shall be the duty of the committee on Rules to recommend special > orders for the scheduling and consideration of legislation on the floor > of the House. Said committee shall be authorized to make recommendations > and propose changes in the rules for the purpose of improving and > expediting the business and procedures of the House of Representatives > and its committees. http://www.state.ma.us/legis/comm/h33.htm > > JOINT COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS > Room 472 > State House > Boston, MA 02133 > Telephone: (617) 722-2120 > > It shall be the duty of the committee on Government Regulations to > consider all > matters concerning public utilities, gambling, the racing industry, the > registration of various trades or professions, the issuance of licenses > for the sale of alcoholic beverages and such other matters as may be > referred. Members appointed to the committee: Sen. Morrissey of Norfolk > and Plymouth, Pacheco of First Plymouth and Bristol, Joyce of Suffolk > and Norfolk, Fargo of Fifth Middlesex, Baddour of Third Essex, Hedlund > of Plymouth and Norfolk, Rep. Bosley of North Adams, Ciampa of > Somerville, Caron of Springfield, Candaras of Wilbraham, C. A. Murphy of > Burlington, Festa of Melrose, Nangle of Lowell, Rivera of Springfield, > Bradley of Hingham, Brown of Wrentham and Hill of Ipswich. > http://www.state.ma.us/legis/comm/j17.htm > > The Massachusetts Genealogical Council welcomes all questions from > interested > researchers, as well as shared experiences from other jurisdictions > dealing with > ill-conceived, reactionary measures to identity fraud, privacy or > records preservation and access issues. Please send your questions and > suggestions to [email protected] > > If you are among the millions who claim early ancestors in Massachusetts > - prior to the proposed 1910/1950 exclusions - and do not believe you > will be impacted by such a law, please consult with your contemporary > cousins and resident collateral lines. Your family will be affected! > > Thank you for your interest and support in this matter. > > Sharon Sergeant > > Program Director, > http://massgencouncil.home.attbi.com/index.htm > [email protected] >

Is there a way to find out who were ministers in Owosso in 1914? A sister to my grandfather was apparently raised by a minister from Owosso after their mother died in 1914 and I'm trying to track her down. Thanks, Nancy

Who would I need to contact regarding records for West Haven cemetery? I know there are graves of relatives there, but I was hoping there would be other records that they might have (like burial dates). Nancy

We maintain the Michigan Marriage Index Database and the following is a list of marriages for the above surname. NAME,SPOUSE,COUNTY,DATE,INFO,DOCUMENT,WEBSITE ================================================= JESSE - BAGERO,CANINE (CARLINE) - TINKLEPAUGH,CLINTON,22 JUL 18--,---,---,--- JOHN A BARRINGTON,FRANCES MILLER TINKLEPAUGH,CLINTON,23 JAN 1879,--,--,-- EMMET - BESLEY,HARRIET - TINKLEPAUGH,CLINTON,09 APR 1851,---,---,--- WILLIAM (I/J) CARR,REBBECCA (REBECCA) R TINKLEPAUGH,CLINTON,03 JUL 1864,---,---,--- LEVINA A DAGGETT,EDWARD S TINKLEPAUGH,CLINTON,18 OCT 1860,---,---,--- ORPHA - FISK,ERASTUS - TINKLEPAUGH,CLINTON,27 AUG 1841/29 AUG 1841,---,---,--- THOMAS - MCEWAN,ELLA E TINKLEPAUGH,BAY,23 DEC 1885,---,---,--- WILLIAM F RIDDLE,LODEMIA A TINKLEPAUGH,CLINTON,28 MAR 1880,---,---,--- ALMON - TINKLEPAUGH,CAROLINE - TINKLEPAUGH?,OCEANA,00 XXX 1836,---,---,--- CARLINE (CANINE) - TINKLEPAUGH,JESSE - BAGERO,CLINTON,22 JUL 18--,---,---,--- CAROLINE - TINKLEPAUGH?,ALMON - TINKLEPAUGH,OCEANA,00 XXX 1836,---,---,--- CHARLES - TINKLEPAUG,SUSAN - WEATHERBY,CLINTON,08 MAY 1853,---,---,--- EDWARD S TINKLEPAUGH,LIVENNA A DAGGETT,CLINTON,18 OCT 1860,---,---,--- ELLA E TINKLEPAUGH,THOMAS - MCEWAN,BAY,23 DEC 1885,---,---,--- ERASTUS - TINKLEPAUGH,ORPHA - FISK,CLINTON,27 AUG 1841/29 AUG 1841,---,---,--- FRANCES MILLER TINKLEPAUGH,JOHN A BARRINGTON,CLINTON,23 JAN 1879,--,--,-- HARRIET - TINKLEPAUGH,EMMET - BESLEY,CLINTON,09 APR 1851,---,---,--- LODEMIA A TINKLEPAUGH,WILLIAM F RIDDLE,CLINTON,28 MAR 1880,---,---,--- REBECCA (REBECCA) R TINKLEPAUGH,WILLIAM J CARR,CLINTON,03 JUL 1864,--,--,-- SUSAN - WEATHERBY,CHARLES - TINKLEPAUGH,CLINTON,08 MAY 1853,---,---,--- Please let us know if there are any family connections. Also, our great aunt Nellie Dibean/Beresford that lived in Owosso had two foster children that we think had a family surname of Tinklepaugh. Jack & Marianne Dibean - Lansing Michigan Marriage Index Links http://www.mifamilyhistory.org/dibeanindex/dibean_county.html ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

please, un-subscribe me... ----- Original Message ----- From: Nancy Rivers To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:26 PM Subject: [MISHIAWA-L] 1914 - Interesting problem finding info - help requested Anna Hickmott died on February 2, 1914 of uterine hemmorhage (after giving birth to a stillborn girl on January 26, 1914) in Owosso. This information is from her death record (number 524) at the Shiawassee County Clerk's office. There was an article in the Argus on February 3, 1914 which stated in part that the family was in destitute circumstances all winter and had been supported by the city and various organizations (none mentioned specifically). It also mentioned that "there is some doubt as to what disposition will be made of the children" - which there were 5. The husband was unemployed at the time. The husband was Bert Hickmott. He later re-married twice and moved to both Oakland county and to Clinton County but had no more children that I am aware of. The 5 children were Adella (or Della), John, Charles, Raymond L., and Kenneth. Raymond was my grandfather and he told my mother that the family was split up after his mother died. That is confirmed in the census records as I can find Bert without the children (but can't find the children). When I was at the Shiawassee County Clerks office I asked about what record regarding the children there might be and was directed to the office that contains the probate records. Unfortunately, that office had no such records for the family. My question is: Where do I search now? I'd really like to find out what happened with the kids after their mother died. Thanks, Nancy ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Anna Hickmott died on February 2, 1914 of uterine hemmorhage (after giving birth to a stillborn girl on January 26, 1914) in Owosso. This information is from her death record (number 524) at the Shiawassee County Clerk's office. There was an article in the Argus on February 3, 1914 which stated in part that the family was in destitute circumstances all winter and had been supported by the city and various organizations (none mentioned specifically). It also mentioned that "there is some doubt as to what disposition will be made of the children" - which there were 5. The husband was unemployed at the time. The husband was Bert Hickmott. He later re-married twice and moved to both Oakland county and to Clinton County but had no more children that I am aware of. The 5 children were Adella (or Della), John, Charles, Raymond L., and Kenneth. Raymond was my grandfather and he told my mother that the family was split up after his mother died. That is confirmed in the census records as I can find Bert without the children (but can't find the children). When I was at the Shiawassee County Clerks office I asked about what record regarding the children there might be and was directed to the office that contains the probate records. Unfortunately, that office had no such records for the family. My question is: Where do I search now? I'd really like to find out what happened with the kids after their mother died. Thanks, Nancy

Looking for information about "Adam Greenawalt and Harriet Byerly" husband and wife. Don Scott [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

Looking for information on Erastis BURRET/BURNETT/BARNETT and his descendents. There is a BURRETT Tombstone in Alton Cemetery next to my William Burdette Monroe and I would like any information on who is buried there. (Only the surname is visible). Also looking for anyone connected to the Solomon HORN family of Rush Township. He is in the 1860, 1870, and 1880 censuses there. Thanks, Bobbi in Sparta, MI

DALE: WHEN I WAS THERE SEVERAL YEARS AGO (10?) WE WENT INTO THE OFFICE AND TOLD THEM WHO WE WERE LOOKING FOR AND THEY GAVE US A MAP WITH THE ROADS, ETC ON TO THE GRAVE WE WERE LOOKING FOR AND MARKED A MAP FOR US. AS TO HOW AND WHY ITS DIVIDED LIKE IT IS PROBABLY STARTED WITH OLDEST TO NEWEST. MAYBE THEY AREN'T DOING THIS ANYMORE DON'T KNOW. CHERYL

Crim, Johns, Harris, Markley, Martin, Miller, Richardson,Couch, Cope, Chapman, Davis, Everrett, Johnson, Amyx, Loveland, Flanders, Percy, Mathis, SImmons, Hackett, and several more. Khandi

I HAVE A ANNA (CUMMINGS) (MARRIED HIRAM CASTOR? CASTLER?) NEEDHAM THAT MARRIED A THOMAS DELBERT NEEDHAM AFTER THE EARLIER MARRIAGE. DO YOU HAVE INFORMATION ON ANY OF THAT? ----- Original Message ----- From: "blustkg" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 10:16 AM Subject: [MISHIAWA-L] Roll Call > Researching Howard, Castler, Babbitt, Eysaman > Peggy > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Sorry, spelling should have been Barrows on Franklin, also. My father Gaylord Wayne Barrows, b. June 27, 1916 eighth child of Franklin E Barows, b. 1877 of Rush Township and Carry L Wood b. 1879, of Rush Twsp. That is the way her name is spelled on the birth certificate. Does anyone have anything familiar to this ? Thanks Gloria Geringer [email protected]