Is there anyone who can help me with some obituaries. I have a date of death for my great-great-aunt and her 3rd husband. I would like to find out when her 2nd husband died too, but will just try for hers for now. Does anyone do any obituary lookups? The years are 1945 and 1956. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

We have a new email address for the Michigan Marriage Index Database. jackdibean@modempool.com Jack & Marianne Dibean - Lansing Michigan GenWeb Archives: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/marriages/michigan/michigan.htm

I am trying to find information on a William E and Emily F (Welch) Chapman. They were on the 1920 in 4-WD Manistique, Schoolcraft County, Michigan, with William 44 and Emily 48. Can anyone help me find them? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I am looking for information on my great-aunt and uncle, William E and Emily F (Welch) Chapman. They died in Manistique area between 1925 and 1947. Can anyone help? --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price.

Hi, Would anyone have Emmanuel LeBrasseur in their line? He lived in Manistique. He drowned in 1927, along with four other men across the border in Michigan while working on a Crib Dam. I believe he married Eveline Martel. Rose Ashland, MA. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.

I am looking information on an Emily Welch who married William E Chapman. They were living in Manistique as late as May 1925 of what I can find. Is there an obituary index for the county or death index for the period between 1925 and 1947. I know she died prior to this. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.

If you have not sent in your registration for the Eaton County Genealogical Society Seminar on 17 April 2004. Fawne was with us last year and we had many requests to bring her back so that she could share some more of her wonderful information and insight with us. I would ask that you forward this to your friends that might be interested. Seating will be limited so don't miss out. The deadline has been extended until April 10th. After that date you should check for availability. Go to our website at <http://www.rootsweb.com/~miecgs/workshop2004.htm> for further information. This year's annual workshop is sure to be a full day of important information. Both primary records and online sources will be discussed at length. Prepare yourself now for a summer of research by arming yourself with the most up-to-date information. CROWN LAND RECORDS For those who attended last year's workshop and heard Fawne speak on Land Registry Office records you will know the importance of understanding land records. This year Fawne will tell us all about crown land records - those lands that brought immigrants to a new world in search of free government land! For those who did not attend last year but have those ancestors that you cannot find before they come to Michigan, they may well have spent time in Ontario working for a grant of crown land to no avail before coming here. Many thousands of early settlers in the province inhabited crown lands through renting, leasing, squatting, government grants and sales. However, hundreds and even thousands of these early settlers never received the actual patent to the land from the government. Fortunately, records of the initial request for land, or attempts to settle crown land were still generated. In some instances, these records represent the only evidence of a settler's existence in the province before they died or moved on to other areas of Canada or the US. This discussion will provide researchers with a sound understanding of the land granting process, the availability of a variety of crown land records and resources. This is an important source of records for anyone doing Ontario research. USING MAPS IN FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCH Maps are critical research tools for family history research. Maps both old and new are important resources to help researchers track down facts about their families; offer the names of individual landowners or residents; show the location of a home on a specific lot; illustrate the relationship of settlers to local institutions; reveal changing place names and; even show changes in the boundaries of nations, provinces, counties, administrative areas (important to early record keeping). An understanding of geographic locations and the relationships illustrated with maps will help family historians locate potential sources of records about their families. This lecture will both explain and visually illustrate the importance of maps for family history research. By attending this year's workshop you will also have an opportunity to see copies of rare Ontario maps. ONLINE SOURCES FOR FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCH Are you trying to do your research online? This session will provide an overview of helpful online resources for researching your family history. Particular attention is given to finding primary sources online and information for those searching in the ancestral homelands of England, Ireland, Scotland and Europe. What tools are there to help you? What obstacles will you encounter? What pitfalls should you watch for? Discover how to connect your primary research with online resources and information. Due to the popularity of this lecture, it has been expanded beyond the 1 hour allotted during the workshop which means participants will receive even more valuable information than originally planned. It also means the schedule for the day could run a little bit over. Don't miss this important information to help you search online effectively! FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCH IN THE 21ST CENTURY Today we stand as participants and witnesses to the infant years of a new century and a new millennium. In the same way that technology has revolutionized the way we live, the hobby (or should we say "obsession") of family history is also in the throws of revolutionary change. But what does this mean to the way in which we conduct our research? More importantly, what will be the legacy of modern family historians for future generations? This session is designed to help researchers identify and balance the information and resources available both online and in traditional institutions in order to make the most of them and ensure that our family history research is a lasting legacy for future generations

Andrew Nicholas was living in the home of his son Lewis Nicholas per the 1880 census. He was widowed and listed as a laborer 64 years old. The census place was Munsising, Schoolcraft, Michigan. If anyone has any info on Andrew Nicholas or his son, I would greatly appreciate hearing from you. I believe Andrew was related to my great grandmother, Mary Eve Nicholas Schneider Herbst. Bill Brinly

I know this is lengthy, but I think a very worthwhile project. Database address is near the bottom of the email. Jan Cortez List Administrator 134 years ago the task of documenting the final resting places of Civil War Soldiers in the state of Michigan began. Through the foresight of Comrade I. M. Cravath, a Department of Michigan Grand Army of the Republic (GAR) Officer, reports were solicited from Michigan GAR Posts reflecting the May 30, Memorial Day activities where veteran's graves were decorated. True Veteran's Son Francis E. Hall continued the effort in the early 1900's. He was a member of Robert Finch Camp 14, Sons of Union Veterans in Grand Rapids, Michigan, and documented over 12,000 records during a ten-year term as Graves Officer. His program was called "Mark the Graves", and until recently it was contained on 3 X 5 index cards in the Michigan State Library in Lansing. From 1930 - 1950 the Daughters of the American Revolution included the marked graves of Civil War Soldiers in their effort to identify all veteran's graves in the nation. In the mid-1960s the Michigan Civil War Centennial Observance Committee added their efforts through the hard work of municipalities, historical societies, and students state wide. At the beginning of the new millennium, the combined research of all of the above and the tireless effort of the Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War and their friends and families resulted in over 20,000 records retained at the Department (state) and at the National level from the Department of Michigan. At the present time, the Department database contains over 43,125 records, including all Civil War soldiers buried in Michigan from any units, as well any Michigan soldiers that are buried anywhere. We also include the burial places of veterans of any war from the American Revolution through the War of 1812, if they are reported to us. With a dogged spirit, and a mind to the technological advances that are being made in the world of communication, the Graves Registration Committee, Department of Michigan, Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War is honored to present this database to the public, keeping in mind that this is a "living effort" which will be updated on a quarterly basis. Any information in the dB is considered correct until we have a chance to verify it. If you have a question about a specific veteran, about a cemetery, or can provide us with updated (or corrected) information, please contact Rick Danes, our Department Graves Registration Officer at SUVMIDGRO@aol.com. You can access the database from the Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War Website, http://suvcw.org/mi/deptmi.htm. At this location you will find information about the program, and a downloadable Registration form. You can also choose the Graves Registration Database here, or access http://suvcw.org/mi/gravereg.html. The database information contained in this site is protected by copyright and is for personal research only. Any other use of this information without the express written consent of the Department of Michigan, Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War, a Congressionally Chartered Corporation, is expressly prohibited.

Hello: I have a Return of Marriage Certificate for my GG Grandfather Charles Cummings (Commings). It lists his birthplace as "Gay Bay Delty" in Schoolcraft County. That's about as close as I can decipher anyway. Does anyone know of this place or have any information on Charles or Dora Cross married in Schoolcraft County in 1881 I would be appreciative.

A brand new project has started up called Family Group Sheets (FGS) and the MIGenWeb is becoming involved. If you would like to learn about the project or submit a FGS, please stop by and take a look. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usfgs/michigan/ You'll find All the states listed at this site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usfgs/ Jan Cortez List Manager

Dear Listers: Some of you may receive this letter more than once if you are on more than one county List in Michigan. I apologize for any inconvience this may cause you. I believe we all should be made aware of what is beginning to become a problem with our cemeteries through out Michigan. Yesterday, Detroit News Metro/State Section carried a news article about the City of Lansing wanting to reclaim thousand of unused gravesites so that they may resell them to bring money into their government. As the City of Jackson, Michigan has already done this and has netted them three hundred thousand dollars, we as descendants of the families who are buried in Michigan Cemeteries need to stand up as one to put a stop to this unlawful event. Yes, we have many old and historical cemeteries through out Michigan and its many counties, cities, towns, villages but I do not believe that any of these governments have the right to take back what your ancestors paid for with their blood, sweat, and tears. Our ancestors paid for these graves to be used by our families, not to be taken back from the descendants of these people who paid for these graves. Yes, families move and shift around the country and thus we leave unused grave sites but I believe that these unused sites should remain in the families of the people who are buried in these plots that have unused sites. I own plots in three different cemeteries in the State of Michigan and since I hold title to them that has been passed down from my great grandparents, grandparents, and parents does not give the city, town, county, or state the right to confiscate them to resell them at their gain. There is no way that my husband and I will utilize all of these gravesites but since I have the titles to theses plots I intend handing them down to my children to be used after our deaths and burial. In order to keep from having this event occur anywhere in our State, we as the family historians and genealogists need to stand up and voice our opinions and let these governments know that we won't stand for this thievery. We need to contact the Michigan Governor and the Senators and the House Representatives, the county executives, city mayors to let them know that we are going to protect our ancestoral burial sites from them. So what I am asking is for help here. With each one of us contacting the cemeteries in which your loved ones were laid to rest find out if there are unused spaces and find out how to go about getting the titles to these plots so that the government cannot take them and then resell them at inflated prices back to the public. Yes, the City of Lansing states they they are going to search for descendants but they already are in financial trouble and therefore could not afford to research and search out the owners or descendants of these family plots as it would cost a small fortune. As we all know the government states they will do one thing and they do entirely a different thing. Your ancestors that date back to the beginning of the State of Michigan only paid a few dollars for these plots which many hold 8, 10, 12 sites in each plot but it was their hard earned money not the governments money taht paid for these plots. Cemeteries are sacred ground and should not be desecrated by anyone including the governments of these cities, towns, villages, counties, and or State. Yes, our ancestors may have only paid 30.00-50.00 per plot but the going prices for these same lots today can bring in as much as four thousand dollars or more depending on where they are at. Checking the Want Ads this a.m. where I live the cheapest lots were going for $2,345.00 each. So you see the government will really be making a killing on these unused plots that our ancestors paid for and they want to take them away from the family descendants. What will happen if you live out of state and have not been contacted and a family member dies and you are going to bury them in the family plot only to find out that it has been sold out from under you without your permission to do this? So please list members write letters, email them, write to the newspapers to the governor and the senators, and representatives, county executives, mayors and let them know we are not going to allow this to go any further and also make the City of Jackson return the monies they made off of the resale of these private plots. I am including email addresses in which you can write to the two major newspapers in Michigan and I am also giving you email addresses for other government officials. To write to the newspapers: letters@freepress.com letteers@detnews.com www.LSJ.com click on the website and then click on the "contact us" and write your letters. Lansing State Journal Write to your local and county newspapers, let them know how you feel about what these governments are trying to do. Protect your cemeteries and your ancestral burial sites from these thieves before it is too late and they destroy them all because of their greediness. Write to the Governor of Michigan Janet Granholm by going to www.michigan.gov then register your email address and then click on Online Forms and Feedback and then write your letter. To address your letters to the Senators and House members address it like this JohnDoe@house.mi.gov putting the name of your house representative in place of John Doe. For the Senate you address is as JohnDoe@senate.michigan.gov putting your state senators name in place of John Doe. write to your county executive, mayors in the same way. If you want to fax a letter to the Governor of Michigan here is the number 1-517-373-3400 Lets get this out in the open so that everyone knows what is going on. We need to defend our ancestors final resting places and to retain them as they are now and not allow the government to sell them off. If we let them get away with this this time what will they do next? Dig up the bones and dump them in a garbage dump because they will stand to get more moeny from reselling these plots. I say NO! Dont' let them do this. Jean Payton

Great sites for maps and general info. -----Original Message----- From: num1scot@aol.com Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 2:22 PM To: NJ-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NJ] Re: Genealogy Links Would like to pass these links along. I found them interesting and helpful. Some of you may feel the same. US & State County Census Maps www.genealogyinc.com/uscm.htm US & State County Formation Maps www.genealogyinc.com/uscf.htm Southestern States www.segenealogy.com NorthEaster States www.negenealogy.com meanings of terms & descriptions www.genealogyinc.com/descriptions/

Looking for any and all info on the family of Elias Garrett Betty Garrett Grant

We maintain the Michigan Marriage Index Database that has over 430,000 records of marriages that took place in Michigan. As part of our database we record the email address of researchers that have an interest in the various records. We have many records that have email address that are no long valid for one reason or another. One example is the shutting down of "@home.com". We have attempted to obtain accurate email address for those that are no longer valid, but, this has caused an expression of concern for many subscribers to the various mailing lists as they feel that we are overloading the system. We will no longer attempt to obtain correct email addresses. IF ANYONE HAS PROVIDED US WITH EMAIL ADDRESSES TO ATTACH TO THE MARRIAGE RECORDS AND HAVE CHANGED YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS PLEASE SEND US A MESSAGE THAT INCLUDES BOTH THE "OLD" AND "NEW" EMAIL ADDRESS. With several thousand email addresses in the database we cannot check everyones email so please only send us a message if you have had a change.  Jack & Marianne Dibean - Lansing Michigan Marriage Index Links http://www.mifamilyhistory.org/dibeanindex/ ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

List Members: This message is of HIGH IMPORTANCE, but is NOT to be further discussed on this list. Any comments you have must be directed to me at cristian@netonecom.net . The following message was sent to all Rootsweb List administrators, and we were directed to pass it along to list members: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >From Rootsweb Staff: "This is a period of intense political times when emotions and opinions will run high in many directions. "The simple issue is that RootsWeb is for genealogical research and not for political discussions. Equivalent political situations have been known to cause significant disturbances and needed intervention by admins and occasionally by Rootsweb staff." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We list administrators have been directed by RootsWeb to reinforce where necessary to our subscribers the basis of the mailing lists and their provision by RootsWeb to users, and, where necessary, take actions to maintain the focus of mailing lists. Therefore, any references to the present political situation will result in being unsubscribed from the list. This will also extend to any "political or religious" messages included in signature blocks. Your anticipated cooperation is appreciated. Let's keep these lists as a "haven" - a place where we can go to do our research, and where we can leave the outside world "outside", at least for the time we spend here. Jan Cortez List Administrator

Apparently there is no longer a website coordinator for Schoolcraft County GenWeb so the following is the update for March 2003 to our database. NAME,SPOUSE,COUNTY,DATE,DOCUMENT,INFO ============================================ JOSEPH - VERTIN,MARTE ANDRINE KLAGSTAD,SCHOOLCRAFT,00 XXX 1884,---,--- Jack & Marianne Dibean - Lansing Michigan Marriage Index Links http://www.mifamilyhistory.org/dibeanindex/dibean_county.html ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

SURNAME,NAME,S_SURNAME,SPOUSE,COUNTY,CTY,DATE,INFO,DOCUMENT,WEBSITE ===================================================== VERTIN_JO,JOSEPH - VERTIN,KLAGSTAD_MA,MARTE ANDRINE KLAGSTAD, SCHOOLCRAFT,,00 XXX 1884,---,---,--- Jack & Marianne Dibean - Lansing Michigan Marriage Index Links http://www.mifamilyhistory.org/dibeanindex/dibean_county.html ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

----- Original Message ----- To: <chas_trefoe31@mchsi.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [INRipley] Rev War and maps >found these and thought I would share them. Census and formation maps >Northern Maps >http://www.negenealogy.com/ngo03.htm > and one for the Revolutionary war that is still under construction > according to the webmaster but still has so good stuff none the less. > http://www.uswars.net/1775-1783/index.htm > >Chas

FYI: This book is on ebay, seems quite rare. I am not affiliated with the seller, but you may can email them from the page to see if your family is in the book. If it wasn't so old I would not have sent this. Its a bit high for my pocket, but someone may be interested. I did a search for it and the cheapest I could find of this same book was 275.00-450.00, for a first edition, so it must be pretty rare. Especially with that many portraits of our ancestors throughout. The url is: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1786628513 Jamie