My Carters in this area I haven't researched much. I know that Elmira Carter (Civil War era) was very proud of the Revolutionary era Sam Carter's in her tree. I took her back, but I haven't taken her forward to see what the family did in Saginaw. I just heard that her father, David Carter, started the shipping line in the area - and when IJ&P was mentioned it made me curious. I'm lucky I'm not a cat!! Liz <A HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/m/o/n/Liz-Montgomery/index.html">The Saginaw Symons</A>