Dear Mary Sue - I was at St. John's Cemetary last summer and I have three digital photos from there. That was all of the stones that I was able to read. The best stone is for Frederick Bender, plus I have what I think is his sister Henrietta Eisenhauer, and a Hochthanner stone. Are you interested in any of these families? Deb Garcia PS - Carolyn - I can send you the three photos I have if you give me an address. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Saginawsue@aol.com [mailto:Saginawsue@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 9:50 PM To: MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MISAGINA] HELP! Saginaw Photo Volunteers Carolyn, I wish I were close enough to help with this project, but I am two days away by car. I would like to see 1) PINEGROVE Cemetery on old Midland Rd. between Freeland and Midland. It is a Tittabawassee Twp. cemetery of medium size. Also, the 2) ST. MATTHEW LUTHERAN cemetery on Hospital Rd. next to the church--also in Tittabawassee Twp. This is a small cemetery that could be photographed in a day quite easily. I have family in both and have taken 35 mm photographs, but no digital photos. Another is the 3) ST. JOHN CEMETERY near Frankenmuth (I think it is on Dehmel Rd). It is not near any church. There are many old tombstones there, but it would be easy to photograph in a couple of outings. The only problem there is the lighting, since it is heavily wooded. It might visits at different times of day to get the proper lighting for all stones. Thanks to you and all of your volunteers for all you are doing. Mary Sue Schnell

><Many of the tombstones are of the old type that are only about 2" thick, and many have toppled over. When they do, the sod starts creeping up on them. A few years ago, I searched the cemetery for a tombstone that was definitely supposed to be buried there. I didn't find it but I found many tombstones that had been toppled (possibly accidentally) and the sod nearly covered all of them. I imagine that there are many, many tombstones here that are covered by a couple of inches of sod. Forest lawn is a hugh cemetery located in the city's south end near Mt. > Olivet Cemetery. Brady Hill is located more towards the city's center > at the intersection of E. Holland and S. Jefferson streets. It covers > about a 3 or 4 square block area. It's unfortunate that Brady Hill has > suffered from vandalism. There are quite a few headstones that have > been toppled over or parts broken off. Some of the stones have been > pushed over on their face making it impossible to see the names on > them. > > Pat > > Jack & Linda Dietz wrote: > >>I also would like Brady Hill & Forest Lawn. I have ancestors in both >>and may have some I don't even know there. Are these big cemeteries? If >>I lived closer I sure would help out but I am in Ohio. >> >>Thanks >>Linda Blue Dietz >>ldjdd1@im3.com >>Reseaching Blue, Cox & Saylor >> >> >>

On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 16:24:14 -0500 Patrick Bohinski <Bohinski@Chartermi.net> wrote: > ...Does anyone know of an organization that takes > care of fixing this type > of damage? I know the city will never do > anything about it. We had the same experience with some of our family monuments at Oakwood -- a combination of both vandals and natural deterioration. When we discussed this with the Saginaw cemetery director, it was clear that the perpetual maintenance that had been purchased long ago was no longer available. Moreover, it was up to us to have repairs made -- the City had no objections to our doing this. They didn't give us the name of any organization that could help us. Instead, my mother got in touch with a gentleman who specializes in such repairs. She may have even gotten his name from the City. Anyway, the gentleman met us at Oakwood, and we arranged for him to do the work. If anyone's interested, I can get the repairman's name for you. Just let me know. Mary Richardson

Hi, I have been very interested in the quest to photograph the cemeteries of Saginaw County. That is a great project. Many of the cemeteries mentioned have been "read" by some great ladies here in Saginaw County. One is the James Township Cemetery Located in Saginaw County, Michigan Section 5, T11N, R4 E North side of Stroebel Road, 1/4 mile west of South Center. This was previously known as the Swan Creek or McBrantnie Cemetery. I have been there. It is right on a very dangerous curve. Only 14 people are buried there. One is my great-great-grandfather, Martin Wenzel. I found the stone years ago laying flat on the ground. There are at least ten books published by the Saginaw Genealogical Society, Inc. on the Saginaw County Cemeteries. I am sure there are more. They, of course, don't contain pictures of the stones, but are very useful. They are fairly inexpensive and can be purchased from the Genealogical Society. Book Six contains: Buena Vista Twp., Kochville Methodist, Owen, Bethel Lutheran, FrankenmuthTwp., St. John's Lutheran. Book ten has James Township. Garfield Cem. 1, Garfield Cem. 2, Richland Lutheran, and Fremont Twp. Sherry

Carolyn, I wish I were close enough to help with this project, but I am two days away by car. I would like to see 1) PINEGROVE Cemetery on old Midland Rd. between Freeland and Midland. It is a Tittabawassee Twp. cemetery of medium size. Also, the 2) ST. MATTHEW LUTHERAN cemetery on Hospital Rd. next to the church--also in Tittabawassee Twp. This is a small cemetery that could be photographed in a day quite easily. I have family in both and have taken 35 mm photographs, but no digital photos. Another is the 3) ST. JOHN CEMETERY near Frankenmuth (I think it is on Dehmel Rd). It is not near any church. There are many old tombstones there, but it would be easy to photograph in a couple of outings. The only problem there is the lighting, since it is heavily wooded. It might visits at different times of day to get the proper lighting for all stones. Thanks to you and all of your volunteers for all you are doing. Mary Sue Schnell

Carolyn ~ I am in the process of transcibing Brant Cemetery & I will be transcribing and photographing Wildwood Cemetery. Sherry ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn Obertein <carolinsaginaw@prodigy.net> To: <MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 9:47 AM Subject: [MISAGINA] HELP! Saginaw Photo Volunteers > > I had a list of volunteers and what cemetery they were photographing. When I went to add Patrick to the list it wasn't there anymore. Evidently, the list disappeared when I had trouble with my computer before Christmas when they had to format my harddrive. I am adding a status report page to the site so you can see what cemeteries are being worked on. But I don't have my volunteer list anymore if you have volunteered please contact me so I can enter your name and the cemetery you are working on. > > If anyone else would like to volunteer please let me know. You don't have to do a whole cemetery. If you just want to do a few or a section that will work also. As you will see there are many many cemeteries to be done yet. If you know of a cemetery big or small that is not on the list please let me know so we can add it. > > Carolyn >

Carolyn ~ I still plan on transcribing the Wildwood Cemetery in Chesaning, and take pictures of them...Planned for this summer 8-) Sherry Carsten ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn Obertein <carolinsaginaw@prodigy.net> To: <MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 7:10 PM Subject: [MISAGINA] Saginaw County Wish List > > Did I miss any? Want to add any? > Saginaw Co. Wishlist! > > > > Tombstone info with the picture. > More birth, marriage and death indexes. > City directories. > Mt. Olivet photographed. > More info on Chesaning Twp. Cemeteries. > Lingham information - Henry Lingham, wife Clarinda (Clara), children Florence, Mary and Aubrey. > Information on those buried in Roselawn cemetery. > Your wish here! > > Cinder0809@aol.com wrote:Hello Carolyn > > My wish would be to be able to access information on those buried in Roselawn > cemetery as I have lots of relatives there. > Thanks, > Cindy >

Carolyn, I just visited the Mt. Olivet site and on the new sections you just listed the last two names on the list have a problem. When you click on the second to the last name it takes you to a Zielinski and the last name takes you nowhere, says url doesn't exist on server. Pat Carolyn Obertein wrote: >Mt. Olivet, Section N is now on the site. The files are uploading as we speak. It is hard to tell where one section ends and another begins. So I am guessing. If you want to know for sure you will need to contact Rita at Mt. Olivet offices. She is great. Very helpful. >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~evansandobertein/saginaw.htm >Carolyn > > > >

Hmmmmm...no wonder! LOL :-) Carolyn Obertein wrote: >Mt. Olivet is in Spaulding Twp. > Patrick Bohinski <Bohinski@chartermi.net> wrote:Carolyn, I couldn't find mt. Olivet on your site. There was no link to >Mt. Olivet when I went to City of Saginaw section. > >Pat > >Carolyn Obertein wrote: > > > >>Mt. Olivet, Section N is now on the site. The files are uploading as we speak. It is hard to tell where one section ends and another begins. So I am guessing. If you want to know for sure you will need to contact Rita at Mt. Olivet offices. She is great. Very helpful. >>http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~evansandobertein/saginaw.htm >>Carolyn >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > >

Looking for any information on the following: Burton Thompson b: July 26, 1837 Albion NY; d; Oct 30, 1917 Married: Olive G. Richardson b: Oct 30, 1836 Especially interested in obits and/or death records. Thank you Mary

Hi Pat Thank you for finding the bad links. I fixed the one and found not all the files uploaded and they are doing that now. Carolyn Patrick Bohinski <Bohinski@Chartermi.net> wrote:Carolyn, I just visited the Mt. Olivet site and on the new sections you just listed the last two names on the list have a problem. When you click on the second to the last name it takes you to a Zielinski and the last name takes you nowhere, says url doesn't exist on server. Pat Carolyn Obertein wrote: >Mt. Olivet, Section N is now on the site. The files are uploading as we speak. It is hard to tell where one section ends and another begins. So I am guessing. If you want to know for sure you will need to contact Rita at Mt. Olivet offices. She is great. Very helpful. >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~evansandobertein/saginaw.htm >Carolyn > > > >

Riverside is a township owned cemetery so the burial records are held by them or they can put you in touch with the sexton if they have one: St. Charles Township Office 1003 N,. Saginaw St. St. Charles, MI 48655 1-989-865-9010 Burial records will show who is buried in the plot so you might have more luck with those records. Pat Hamp ----- Original Message ----- From: <GeneMom46@aol.com> > This message is for Carolyn or anyone else out there who might have an answer. > My husband is from St. Charles. We were told by a distant cousin that his > great, > great grandfather, Benjamin PRICE, is buried in Riverside Cemetery, but > Carolyn doesn't list him. He is with two Lytles, a Holton, and a Sweeney > under a big oak tree. She says they are in Section 10, around Lot 21. Does > anyone know if he is buried there or not? My next question is - if so, > would someone take a picture of the headstone for me? Will gladly pay. TIA > > Sue Schroeder > ABQ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.437 / Virus Database: 245 - Release Date: 06 January 2003

According to the St. Charles Cemetery Book published by the Saginaw Genealogical Society Burton was born 1831 died 1917 and Olive C (probably misread) was born 1835 died 1910. Sue Kissel Prescott AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: Mld71124@cs.com To: MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 7:40 PM Subject: [MISAGINA] Thompson Family Looking for any information on the following: Burton Thompson b: July 26, 1837 Albion NY; d; Oct 30, 1917 Married: Olive G. Richardson b: Oct 30, 1836 Especially interested in obits and/or death records. Thank you Mary

Thank you Sherry that will be great. That one will be a big project. Yell if you need help. Carolyn World Outreach Web C & D <WoWc_d@chartermi.net> wrote:Carolyn ~ I still plan on transcribing the Wildwood Cemetery in Chesaning, and take pictures of them...Planned for this summer 8-) Sherry Carsten ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn Obertein To: Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 7:10 PM Subject: [MISAGINA] Saginaw County Wish List > > Did I miss any? Want to add any? > Saginaw Co. Wishlist! > > > > Tombstone info with the picture. > More birth, marriage and death indexes. > City directories. > Mt. Olivet photographed. > More info on Chesaning Twp. Cemeteries. > Lingham information - Henry Lingham, wife Clarinda (Clara), children Florence, Mary and Aubrey. > Information on those buried in Roselawn cemetery. > Your wish here! > > Cinder0809@aol.com wrote:Hello Carolyn > > My wish would be to be able to access information on those buried in Roselawn > cemetery as I have lots of relatives there. > Thanks, > Cindy >

That is great I will add you to the volunteer list. Thank you. Let me know when you get them done. Carolyn World Outreach Web C & D <WoWc_d@chartermi.net> wrote:Carolyn ~ I am in the process of transcibing Brant Cemetery & I will be transcribing and photographing Wildwood Cemetery. Sherry ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn Obertein To: Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 9:47 AM Subject: [MISAGINA] HELP! Saginaw Photo Volunteers > > I had a list of volunteers and what cemetery they were photographing. When I went to add Patrick to the list it wasn't there anymore. Evidently, the list disappeared when I had trouble with my computer before Christmas when they had to format my harddrive. I am adding a status report page to the site so you can see what cemeteries are being worked on. But I don't have my volunteer list anymore if you have volunteered please contact me so I can enter your name and the cemetery you are working on. > > If anyone else would like to volunteer please let me know. You don't have to do a whole cemetery. If you just want to do a few or a section that will work also. As you will see there are many many cemeteries to be done yet. If you know of a cemetery big or small that is not on the list please let me know so we can add it. > > Carolyn >

Carolyn, I couldn't find mt. Olivet on your site. There was no link to Mt. Olivet when I went to City of Saginaw section. Pat Carolyn Obertein wrote: >Mt. Olivet, Section N is now on the site. The files are uploading as we speak. It is hard to tell where one section ends and another begins. So I am guessing. If you want to know for sure you will need to contact Rita at Mt. Olivet offices. She is great. Very helpful. >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~evansandobertein/saginaw.htm >Carolyn > > > >

Mt. Olivet - Sections P, V, R, & H is on the site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~evansandobertein/saginaw.htm Mt. Olivet is in Spaulding Twp. Good Luck Carolyn Carolyn Obertein <carolinsaginaw@prodigy.net> wrote: Mt. Olivet is in Spaulding Twp. Patrick Bohinski wrote:Carolyn, I couldn't find mt. Olivet on your site. There was no link to Mt. Olivet when I went to City of Saginaw section. Pat Carolyn Obertein wrote: >Mt. Olivet, Section N is now on the site. The files are uploading as we speak. It is hard to tell where one section ends and another begins. So I am guessing. If you want to know for sure you will need to contact Rita at Mt. Olivet offices. She is great. Very helpful. >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~evansandobertein/saginaw.htm >Carolyn > > > >

Forest lawn is a hugh cemetery located in the city's south end near Mt. Olivet Cemetery. Brady Hill is located more towards the city's center at the intersection of E. Holland and S. Jefferson streets. It covers about a 3 or 4 square block area. It's unfortunate that Brady Hill has suffered from vandalism. There are quite a few headstones that have been toppled over or parts broken off. Some of the stones have been pushed over on their face making it impossible to see the names on them. Pat Jack & Linda Dietz wrote: >I also would like Brady Hill & Forest Lawn. I have ancestors in both and may have some I don't even know there. Are these big cemeteries? If I lived closer I sure would help out but I am in Ohio. > >Thanks >Linda Blue Dietz >ldjdd1@im3.com >Reseaching Blue, Cox & Saylor > > > >

Dear Fellow Researchers: Regarding a cemetery on Stroble Road. I helped a lady from Texas a few years ago get info regarding her PABST/PAPST ancestors buried there. I am sure that I can find the cemetery again. Susan Warner Saginaw, Michigan In a message dated 1/11/2003 4:49:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, carolinsaginaw@prodigy.net writes: > Subj: Re: [MISAGINA] McBratnie > Cemetery/STROEBEL,BECKER,BUSSINGER,PABST,BRIGGS,KAUFFMAN,BLOWER > Date: 1/11/2003 4:49:04 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: <A HREF="mailto:carolinsaginaw@prodigy.net">carolinsaginaw@prodigy.net</A> > Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com">MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com</A> > To: <A HREF="mailto:MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com">MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com</A> > Hi Mary, > You told me about this cemetery before and I drove down Strobel Rd looking > for it. I didn't see anything that looked like a cemetery had been there. > I wonder if anyone else on the list would know? > Carolyn > mrichson@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 18:17:25 -0800 (PST) > Carolyn Obertein > wrote: > >Anyone know of any of those out of the way > >hidden cemeteries > Hi, Carolyn -- > I think I already mentioned this to you earlier, but there's a McBratnie > Cemetery in James Twp. I suspect that this cemetery may have some > connection > with my gg-grandfather, Colin McBRATNIE, who was an itinerant Methodist > minister. At one time, there was a McBratnie Church that was named for him > -- > my grandmother said it was in Hemlock, but it no longer exists. Anyway, I > have a 1962 newspaper article about the McBratnie Cemetery -- did I send > you a > scan of it? If not, let me know. The article says "James Township officials > appropriate a small amount of money each year to maintain the one-acre > cemetery....The plot is located on Stroebel Road, 1/4 mile west of South > Center Road. It is situated on a slope, high along the road, but low at the > far end....There are only about 20 tombstones in the cemetery today, but > more > persons than that are buried there....the last funeral [was held] 'at least > 25 > years ago.' " > Also from the article: "Names on the stones reflect the hardy German > settlers > who farmed James Township many years ago -- names like BECKER, BUSSINGER, > PABST, BRIGGS, KAUFFMAN and BLOWER. There's also a tombstone with the name > STROEBEL on it, but no one named STROEBEL lies in the burial plot. Many of > the inscriptions are in German." > The article includes biographical info about Jacob STROEBEL and his family. > > If anyone else wants a copy of it, let me know. > Mary Richardson >

Since you are compiling a new list, perhaps you can "hook" me up with someone who needs a companion. Katie Rasdorf krasdorf@yahoo.com living and working in Chicago and interested in Saginaw/BayCity and Detroit for my ancestors. Have new 4M digital camera available Sundays, Mondays, and Tuesdays to come over to the area to take pictures. It sounds like a personal ad. ha ha. Don't know my way around Saginaw, but willing to learn. hee hee. --- Carolyn Obertein <carolinsaginaw@prodigy.net> wrote: > > I had a list of volunteers and what cemetery they > were photographing. When I went to add Patrick to > the list it wasn't there anymore. Evidently, the > list disappeared when I had trouble with my computer > before Christmas when they had to format my > harddrive. I am adding a status report page to the > site so you can see what cemeteries are being worked > on. But I don't have my volunteer list anymore if > you have volunteered please contact me so I can > enter your name and the cemetery you are working on. > > > If anyone else would like to volunteer please let me > know. You don't have to do a whole cemetery. If > you just want to do a few or a section that will > work also. As you will see there are many many > cemeteries to be done yet. If you know of a > cemetery big or small that is not on the list please > let me know so we can add it. > > Carolyn > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com