Hi Shelly, As I searched my memory, it seems to me that I spoke to a woman at St. Andrew's Cemetery, who mentioned an old cemetery where the graves had been moved to an unknown location to make way for development. I thought I saw it on a city map in an old directory. I looked thru my printed copies, but didn't find it. A look thru the cemetery listings in old city directories might give some info. Sorry I can't be more helpful on this. I think I lost interest in pursuing it when I found my family buried in Calvary. Good luck. Pat

Hi Susan, Thank you. I will check out the Holy Cross Lutheran Church Cemetery on Brockway. I hope they have the burials I am looking for. Thank you for taking the time to post this information. Shelly

In a message dated 1/13/2003 10:38:25 AM Central Standard Time, Saginawsue@aol.com writes: > No, this St. John's Cemetery, not St. John's Lutheran Church What I meant was this St. John's Cemetery is on Beyer Rd. in Blumfield Twp. and is not the St. John's Lutheran Church Cemetery in Amelith. Mary Sue

I searched back through my husband's files and discovered that St. John's Cemetery headstones have been transcribed for an Eagle Scout project and can be found at: <A HREF="ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/mi/saginaw/blumfield/cemetery/s32507.txt"> ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/mi/saginaw/blumfield/cemetery/s32507.txt</A> by David Callahan. His contact information is listed. Mary Sue Schnell

No, this St. John's Cemetery, not St. John's Lutheran Church. It is located on Beyer Rd. in Blumfield Twp. just north of Frankenmuth. Many people from Immanuel Lutheran at Frankentrost are buried in this cemetery. Mary Sue

Thank you. I wonder if this is where Indian Town was? SCIGSC@aol.com wrote:Dear Carolyn: Indiantown Cemetery in St. Charles township is located on a sandy ridge of Section 23 north of Fergus Road and west of Turner Road. Burials at this site were investigated in 1962 and were found to be wooden boxes nailed with square cut nails. Evidence of a wool blanket was found in one case. A ten inch stone crudely cut with "N. Brown, Nov. 14, 1841" was found at this site. Susan Warner Saginaw, Michigan In a message dated 1/13/2003 1:34:46 PM, carolinsaginaw@yahoo.com writes: > Subj: [MISAGINA] Indian Town by St. Charles? > Date: 1/13/2003 1:34:46 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: carolinsaginaw@yahoo.com > Reply-to: MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com > To: MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com > I found an old obit for John Trumble that stated he was from Indian Town > somewhere by St. Charles. Does anyone know where this would be? Was there > any cemeteries in that area? > Carolyn >

I found an old obit for John Trumble that stated he was from Indian Town somewhere by St. Charles. Does anyone know where this would be? Was there any cemeteries in that area? Carolyn

In the back of St. Andrews Cemetery there is a marker telling of all the graves around it that were moved there from another cemetery. I can't remember which cemetery it said but there are many headstones there around it. Next time I am out that way I will check what cemetery the large marker said. St. Andrews Cemetery may even be able to tell you. Palev46@aol.com wrote:Hi Shelly, As I searched my memory, it seems to me that I spoke to a woman at St. Andrew's Cemetery, who mentioned an old cemetery where the graves had been moved to an unknown location to make way for development. I thought I saw it on a city map in an old directory. I looked thru my printed copies, but didn't find it. A look thru the cemetery listings in old city directories might give some info. Sorry I can't be more helpful on this. I think I lost interest in pursuing it when I found my family buried in Calvary. Good luck. Pat

Dear Saginaw County Searchers: St. John Lutheran Cemetery in Frankenmuth Township was established in 1860 and is located on 4 acres of Section 10, on Dehmel Road between King and Baker Roads. The cemetery is owned by St. John Lutheran Church and the records are held by the church. Blumfield Township Cemetery in Blumfield Township is located on the west side of S. Beyer Road, 3/4 mile south on M-46 on section 32. Susan Warner Saginaw, Michigan

>From LDS search engine at http://www.familysearch.org/ Husband's Name <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/AF/individual_record.asp?recid=41337697">Thomas D. NEEDHAM</A> (AFN:1P10-R70) <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/AF/pedigree_view.asp?recid=41337697&familyid=10876741">Pedigree</A> Born:  25 Dec 1796 Place:  Ny Christened:  25 Dec 1796 Place:  Died:  27 Mar 1857 Place:  Married:  Abt 1830 Place:  Father:  Mother:  Wife's Name <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/AF/individual_record.asp?recid=41337698">Emeline Elizabeth PORTER</A> (AFN:1P10-R86) <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/AF/pedigree_view.asp?recid=41337698&familyid=10876741">Pedigree</A> Born:  15 Dec 1796 Place:  Batavia, Genesse, Ny Christened:  15 Dec 1796 Place:  Died:  15 May 1889 Place:  Flint, Genesse, Mi Married:  Abt 1830 Place:  Father:  Mother:  Children 1.  Sex  Name F <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/AF/individual_record.asp?recid=41337990">Harriet NEEDHAM</A> (AFN:1P11-307) <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/AF/pedigree_view.asp?recid=41337990">Pedigree</A> Born:  7 Oct 1836 Place:  <Batavia, Genesse, Ny> Died:  4 May 1919 Place:  2.  Sex  Name M <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/AF/individual_record.asp?recid=41337958">William H. NEEDHAM</A> (AFN:1P11-1XN) <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/AF/pedigree_view.asp?recid=41337958">Pedigree</A> Born:  10 Apr 1831 Place:  Ny 3.  Sex  Name M <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/AF/individual_record.asp?recid=41337699">Thomas D. NEEDAM</A> (AFN:1P10-R9D) <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/AF/pedigree_view.asp?recid=41337699">Pedigree</A> Born:  13 May 1826 Place:  Ny 4.  Sex  Name F <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/AF/individual_record.asp?recid=41337701">Mary A. NEEDHAM</A> (AFN:1P10-RCS) <A HREF="http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/AF/pedigree_view.asp?recid=41337701">Pedigree</A> Born:  29 Sep 1834 Place:  Batavia, Genesse, Ny Christened:  29 Sep 1833 Place:  Batavia, Genesse, Ny Died:  4 May 1924 Place:  Gaines, Genesse, Mi Sue Gurk from MI Sue Gurk from MI

Hi, If anyone photographs Brady Hill and if there is a stone for my gg-grandparents Willam & Sarah Cox could someone send a picture my way? Sure would appreciate it! Thanks Linda Dietz ldjdd1@im3.com Researching Cox & Saylor Families

I have the following Schnell's in my Lutz tree. Anna Maria Schnell born 20 Feb 1841 to Georg Adam Schnell (23 Jul 1804-06 Sep 1865) and Maria Margaretha Schnell (03 Apr 1805-07 Feb 1865). Family immigrated to United States on the Franciska (Hamburg to New York, arriving 01 Jun 1852). Anna Maria married Johann Adam Lutz on 02 Feb 1865 at St John Lutheran of Amelith. A son, Johann Matthias, was born to Anna Maria Schnell and Johann Adam Lutz on 30 Apr 1865. The baby died 01 Jul 1865 and is buried at St John of Amelith. Anna Maria died 01 Nov 1865 and is buried at St John. So from Feb to Nov 1865, the baby, the mother and the mother's parents died. The Saginaw County death records do not list a cause of death. The church records do not list cause of death. I have always wondered about this family and why they died so close together. I think this is a mystery I will be unable to find an answer to. Johann Adam Lutz married a 2nd time on 02 Jul 1866 to Marie Margaretha Sybilla Goetz and went on to have 8 more children. Please feel free to contact me offline if you are also interested in this family. Linda From: Saginawsue@aol.com To: MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MISAGINA] St. John's cemetery Deb, Thanks for asking. As far as I know there is no one in my husband's ancestral tree by either name. We were searching for SCHNELL ancestors. We photographed 5 headstones. Actually they turned out clearer than I anticipated, given the low light conditions. Carolyn, I would be happy to scan the pictures of the five headstones I have from St. John's Cemetery and send them to you as jpg files if you could use them that way. Let me know. They are: "Baby" Son of G. & M. Schnell; July 26, 1899 Hedwig, Daughter of G. & M. Schnell; May 10, 1897-Feb 4, 1898 Schnell Margaretha 1865-1931 mother George 1858-1932 father Martin Schnell Nov. 20 1891- Dec. 21, 1926 Leota P. Schnell 1906-1971 mother I was wrong yesterday, St. John's Cemetery is actually on Beyer Road (not Dehmel). --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

If any one is photographing at the Forest Lawn Cemetery...would you please photograph for me Bella (Draves) Large. I would appreciate your help. Georgia Draves robinhd@shawneelink.net

Is this St. John's of Amelith? (German speaking church now in outskirts of Bay City?)

SWielin wrote: One is the James Township Cemetery Located in Saginaw County, Michigan Section 5, T11N, R4 E North side of Stroebel Road, 1/4 mile west of South Center. This was previously known as the Swan Creek or McBrantnie Cemetery. Isn't this the cemetery you were looking for Carolyn? I think someone called it the Stroebel Cemetery. Pat

I can help if I have that Saturday off. Just need a firm date. Pat Carolyn Obertein wrote: >I was wondering....would there be an interest of lets say....the end of March (weather permitting) Anyone that would like to help photograph Brady Hill meet early on a Saturday for breakfast and organize how we will photograph the cemetery and then head over to the cemetery to photograph it as a group. If you don't own a camera your help could still be used to clean grass etc. from headstones. If you live out of town and would like to come for the weekend there is a couple of good hotels in Bridgeport right accross from Cracker Barrel. It is about an 10 minute drive to the cemetery. >If it works out we could make it a monthly or bi-monthly thing. >This is just a poll to see what kind of interest there would be. >Carolyn > > > >

I would be interested when you get to Birch Run and Cook cemeteries. From: carolinsaginaw@prodigy.net (Carolyn Obertein) Date: Sun, Jan 12, 2003, 5:16pm (EST-3) To: MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MISAGINA] Interest in all of us photographing Brady Cem. together? Reply to: MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com I was wondering....would there be an interest of lets say....the end of March (weather permitting) Anyone that would like to help photograph Brady Hill meet early on a Saturday for breakfast and organize how we will photograph the cemetery and then head over to the cemetery to photograph it as a group. If you don't own a camera your help could still be used to clean grass etc. from headstones. If you live out of town and would like to come for the weekend there is a couple of good hotels in Bridgeport right accross from Cracker Barrel. It is about an 10 minute drive to the cemetery. If it works out we could make it a monthly or bi-monthly thing. This is just a poll to see what kind of interest there would be. Carolyn

Carolyn, I will scan them tomorrow and e-mail them to you. Mary Sue

Dear Pat: The cemetery that was dug up and moved was the City Cemetery City Cemetery once located south of Lee Street and east of Niagara Street was established by Saginaw Township in the early 1840s before the city of Saginaw was incorporated. The cemetery was abandoned in 1871 with the burials removed to Oakwood Cemetery. Oakwood Cemetery was established in 1868 and covers approximately 100 acres. It is located on the corner of Gratiot and Midland roads. The cemetery is owned by the city of Saginaw and records are held at Forest Lawn. In a message dated 1/12/2003 6:30:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, Palev46@aol.com writes: > Subj: Re: [MISAGINA] Re: Forest lawn &Brady hill Cemeteries > Date: 1/12/2003 6:30:23 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: <A HREF="mailto:Palev46@aol.com">Palev46@aol.com</A> > Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com">MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com</A> > To: <A HREF="mailto:MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com">MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com</A> > I think the "Crossroads" may be a cemetery I've heard about that was moved > for construction at some time. You might find it on the maps and /or > cemetery listing in old city directories. > pat

Dear Shelly: I saw your comments about "The Crossroads" Did you know that Brockway Road used to be called Crossroads. In the 1877 plat book of Saginaw County the road we now know of as Brockway was called Crossroads. In the 1896 plat book of Saginaw County the road was then called Brockway. There is a cemetery on Brockway that was established at the time that the road was still called Crossroads. Holy Cross Lutheran Cemetery was established in 1864 and is located on approximately 6 acres of Section 21 on Brockway Road near Hawthorne Drive. The cemetery is owned by Holy Cross Lutheran Church and the records are held by the church office. I this it was possible that this cemetery may have been called by the nickname of "The Crossroads Cemetery" Susan Warner Saginaw, Michigan > From: Saja423@aol.com > Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 16:51:00 EST > Subject: Re: [MISAGINA] Re: Forest lawn & Brady hill Cemeteries > To: MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com > > Hello, > > As for Brady Hill.....I have not been able to locate my great great > grandfather Elias Wirsing. He is either buried at Brady Hill or at a place > called "The Crossroads" which I have not yet figured out. Does anyone have > any records for Elias and Anna Dorthea Wirsing? He died in the mid 1800's. > Is it possible that the index for Brady Hill does not include the toppled > stones? > > Shelly