Carolyn, we should probably do this for Owen, I'm not sure when I'm goingto be able to get out there. let me know when it is best for you. I'm hoping to be employed again soon! Pat Carolyn Obertein wrote: >The Lakefield Cemetery is complete and now on the website. A big thank you to Al Galloway and Diane Prout who met me at the cemetery and helped complete the photographing. It is so much more enjoyable when there are more people (and quicker). Even though I think people driving through the cemetery thought we were in a park with our lawn chairs and sodas. >If anyone would like to volunteer to meet as a group and photograph another cemetery just let me know and I can set something up. >Carolyn > > > >Census, Bios, Obits, Cemetery, Church, & Vet Photos, Platt & Cemetery Maps, Citizens, Vets, and Poll List - Visit the Saginaw County Photograph Website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~evansandobertein/saginaw.htm > > > >

Great! Thank you! What a challenging example of service to the community of researchers! chc >From: Carolyn Obertein <carolinsaginaw@prodigy.net> >Reply-To: MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com >To: MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [MISAGINA] Saginaw Co Photos update >Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 08:20:19 -0700 (PDT) > >The Lakefield Cemetery is complete and now on the website. A big thank you >to Al Galloway and Diane Prout who met me at the cemetery and helped >complete the photographing. It is so much more enjoyable when there are >more people (and quicker). Even though I think people driving through the >cemetery thought we were in a park with our lawn chairs and sodas. >If anyone would like to volunteer to meet as a group and photograph another >cemetery just let me know and I can set something up. >Carolyn > > > >Census, Bios, Obits, Cemetery, Church, & Vet Photos, Platt & Cemetery Maps, >Citizens, Vets, and Poll List - Visit the Saginaw County Photograph >Website: >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~evansandobertein/saginaw.htm > _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

The Lakefield Cemetery is complete and now on the website. A big thank you to Al Galloway and Diane Prout who met me at the cemetery and helped complete the photographing. It is so much more enjoyable when there are more people (and quicker). Even though I think people driving through the cemetery thought we were in a park with our lawn chairs and sodas. If anyone would like to volunteer to meet as a group and photograph another cemetery just let me know and I can set something up. Carolyn Census, Bios, Obits, Cemetery, Church, & Vet Photos, Platt & Cemetery Maps, Citizens, Vets, and Poll List - Visit the Saginaw County Photograph Website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~evansandobertein/saginaw.htm

This is a copy of my grandmother's Bible. The Thomas E. Doughty is the T.E. Doughty jewelry store in early Saginaw and the MOORES line is the early grocer, Otto Moores;his brother was Emil Moores. Records from Marcia Collette DOUGHTY HUBBARD’s Bible copied 8/17/2000 BIRTHS Charles Doughty born March 12th 1815 Eunice Doughty born August 28th 1825 Emily A. Doughty born March 16th 1876 Thomas E. Doughty Sr. born Nov. 25th 1785 Elizabeth Miller born Nov. 25th 1792 Charles Doughty born March 12th 1815 Thomas E. Doughty born April 1819 George Doughty born March 4th 1817 John Doughty born March 14th 1834 Marriages Thomas E. Doughty Sr. married Elizabeth Miller Dec. 19th 1813 Thomas E. Doughty Jr. married Hannah Shord May 19th 1841 Thomas E. Doughty Jr. married Harriet Smith August 8th 1859 DEATHS Emily Wood died Oct. 15, 1889 aged 65 years Victoria Fish died Jan 7th 1832 Williams Fish died Feb. 26th 1894 aged 66 years Thomas E. Doughty, Sr. died Oct. 15th 1862 aged 76 years, 10 mos. 20 days Hannah J. Doughty died March 5th 1858 aged 37 years 11 months Elizabeth H. Doughty died Nov. 26th 1868 aged 76 years, 11 months George Doughty died Jan. 7th1885 aged 67 years, 10 months Charles Doughty died August 11th 1889 aged 74 years 5 months Thomas E. Doughty died Feb. 26th 1895 aged 73 years, 11 months Eunice Doughty died Nov. 14th 1899 aged 74 years, 2 months Births Alanson W. Tyler born January 22, 1809 George Otto Emil Moores in Saginaw Mich. April 4, 1861 Evelyn Salome Moores in Saginaw, MI Feb. 2, 1867 Clifton Otto Moores in Liverpool, England, Aug 2, 1870 Royal Moores Dec 23, 1886 son of Chester Moores-Sag Gorton Spencer Burlingham born December 28th 1819 Marcia Lum born Nov. 24th 1809 Olive Amanda Burlingham born August 20, 1836 Sarah Jane Burlingham born October 8th 1838 Chester Adelbert Moores born December 20th 1863 Frankie Moores Oct. 14, 1859 Marcia Doughty Dec. 11, 1886 Matthew Thomas Hubbard Fred Duane Hubbard Elizabeth Lorrain Wilda Jean Norman Hartwell Marriages Gorton Spencer Burlingham and Marcia Lum Married Sept. 1835 Decatur, Otsego County, New York Sarah Jane Burlingham and Otto H.G. Moores Saginaw Frankie E. Moores and Fred Doughty Jan. 1, 1885 Saginaw, Mich. Marcia Doughty and Joseph LeRoy Hubbard May 10, 1916 Saginaw, Mich. Frankie Doughty and Cassius Marcus Stewart March 3rd 1919 Evelyn Salome Moores to Charles A. Wood Nov. 7, 1893 FISH Marriages William Fish to Eunice Morgan Nov. 27, 1814 Emily Fish to John Wood Jan. 17, 1834 Lois M. Fish to D.W.C. Bennett Sept. 25th 1841 Eunice Fish md to Charles Doughty, Jan. 28, 1845 Jacob M. Fish to Adelaid Bellfir Sept. 7, 1849 William Fish to Mary Wood, Feb 13th 1851 John D. Fish to Mary C. Williams Oct. 29th 1851 Thomas Fish Victoria Bellfour Mary 18th 1855 David Fish and Mary T. Jennings Feb 12th 1856 Births Williams Fish born March 20th 1792 Eunice Fish March 31st 1797 Emily Fish born Oct. 12th 1816 Ambrose Fish born Jan. 3rd 1818 Lois M. Fish born August 31st 1819 Jacob M. Fish born March 4th 1821 Infant son born March 25th 1824, Died April 4th 1824, aged ten days Eunice Fish born August 28th 1825 Williams Fish born August 14th 1827 J.D. Fish born June 27th 1829 David Fish 3 born Feb. 11th 1833 DEATHS Ambrose Fish died Sept 3, 1840 Aged 22 years 8 months Mary Fish Died Feb. 27th 1851 Aged 24 years and 5 months Jacob M. Fish died Oct 1st 1850 Aged 34 years 7 months David Fish died Jan. 26th 1864 Aged 31 years, 11 months 15 days Eunice Fish died Dec 28th 1866 Aged 69 years 8 months William Fish died April 14th 1868 Aged 76 J.D. Fish died Oct. 1st 1872 Aged 42 years 3 months

Early Saginaw County Marriages Transcribed from: Records for the county of Saginaw, Michigan Territory, 1835-1864 - Saginaw County Clerk http://www.mifamilyhistory.org/saginaw/earlymarriages/ These early Saginaw County marriages were found in the first book of the county clerk which is on film. Some pages are faded and hard to read, spelling was sounded out in parts of the records and is interesting to see. The marriages in this book only go to 1847, although it is titled to include up to 1864. There are 100 records in this set of Saginaw vitals. The records include areas such as Tuscola, Bay, Gratiot, and Genesee Counties which were part of Saginaw County at the time. There are also some Oakland Co. people listed. Patricia Wazny-Hamp MIGenWeb Sites Saginaw http://www.mifamilyhistory.org/saginaw/ Gratiot http://www.mfhn.com/gratiot Houghton http://www.mfhn.com/houghton Keweenaw http://www.mfhn.com/keweenaw --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.487 / Virus Database: 286 - Release Date: 01 June 2003

Wondering if anything in this time frame would provide, names in a household. The 1840 census confirms my genie speculation that John ARMAN had at least one girl in the right age frame for GGGG Grandma. I have marriage and no parents listed in the 1847 occasion ( She married one of John WHITMAN's boys, Robert ), and on her death records it lists parents as unknown. She was born in New York but after two years of hunting not a clue as to possibly were. So I am quite stuck on proving who she belongs to... some have another mother and father unknown but I do feel John and Nancy ( Davis ) ARMAN are her folks, just need to get it proven some how. Any help or suggestions on what I should try is greatly appreciated. KKB

Just got done uploading a trascription of the 1840 Federal Census of Saginaw Co. http://www.mifamilyhistory.org/saginaw/census.asp Saginaw had two townships at the time. Saginaw Twp. and Tuscola Twp. It is the last Federal Census that was heads of household only with the number of males and females in each household. Tuscola Twp. later became Tuscola Co. I believe. I noted from working with Gratiot Co. for a long time that towards the end of the census on about page 5 many of the names are in that county iafter it formed. Early Bay Co. residents are also included in Saginaw at this time. Trying to work through the earliest Saginaw Co. marriages to put online right now. Will announce as soon as it gets done. I am also seeing some of the Gratiot Co. names in these. Patricia Wazny-Hamp MIGenWeb Sites Saginaw http://www.mifamilyhistory.org/saginaw/ Gratiot http://www.mfhn.com/gratiot Houghton http://www.mfhn.com/houghton Keweenaw http://www.mfhn.com/keweenaw hosted by: Michigan Family History Network http://www.mifamilyhistory.org --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.486 / Virus Database: 284 - Release Date: 29 May 2003

How about Sat. at 10:oo AM at Lakefield? Al Galloway ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Obertein" <carolinsaginaw@prodigy.net> To: <MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 7:38 PM Subject: [MISAGINA] Saginaw Co. Photo website update > I'm not sure where I left off with cemeteries that have been photographed so here is the list. Most of them are complete: > > CemeteryTownshipAssumption BVMBridgeportBirch RunBirch RunBlumfield CemeteryBlumfieldBrant Cemetery 1 & 2 BrantBuena VistaBuena VistaCalvary Cemetery A-L M-ZCity of SaginawChippewa Indian Cemetery 1 & 2AlbeeForest LawnSaginaw CityGarfield Cemetery 1Swan CreekGarfield Cemetery 2Swan CreekGriffths CemeteryBradyIsmund CemeteryBradyJansen CemeteryBlumfieldKochville Methodist CemeteryKochvilleLakefieldLakefieldMt. OlivetSpauldingOak GroveBridgeportOak GroveBradyOakley CemeteryBradyOakwoodSaginaw CityOlive Branch Methodist CemeteryBridgeportOwen CemeteryThomasPinegroveBridgeportRidge RdBradyRiversideSt. CharlesRoselawnSaginaw CitySpaulding Cole RdSpauldingSt. Andrew'sSaginaw CitySt. Charles Twp Cemetery1 & 2St. CharlesSt. Elizabeth's CemeteryBlumfieldSt. Mary's CemeteryAlbeeSt. Mary's CemeterySt. CharlesSt. Michael CatholicBradyStrobelSwan CreekTaymouthTaymouthVasoldTittabawasseeZiegler (West Albee Twp)Albee > > > > Census, Bios, Obits, Cemetery, Church, & Vet Photos, Platt & Cemetery Maps, Citizens, Vets, and Poll List - Visit the Saginaw County Photograph Website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~evansandobertein/saginaw.htm > > >

I plan on being there. See you then. Carolyn Al Galloway <maxal@m33access.com> wrote: How about Sat. at 10:oo AM at Lakefield? Al Galloway ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Obertein" To: Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 7:38 PM Subject: [MISAGINA] Saginaw Co. Photo website update > I'm not sure where I left off with cemeteries that have been photographed so here is the list. Most of them are complete: > > CemeteryTownshipAssumption BVMBridgeportBirch RunBirch RunBlumfield CemeteryBlumfieldBrant Cemetery 1 & 2 BrantBuena VistaBuena VistaCalvary Cemetery A-L M-ZCity of SaginawChippewa Indian Cemetery 1 & 2AlbeeForest LawnSaginaw CityGarfield Cemetery 1Swan CreekGarfield Cemetery 2Swan CreekGriffths CemeteryBradyIsmund CemeteryBradyJansen CemeteryBlumfieldKochville Methodist CemeteryKochvilleLakefieldLakefieldMt. OlivetSpauldingOak GroveBridgeportOak GroveBradyOakley CemeteryBradyOakwoodSaginaw CityOlive Branch Methodist CemeteryBridgeportOwen CemeteryThomasPinegroveBridgeportRidge RdBradyRiversideSt. CharlesRoselawnSaginaw CitySpaulding Cole RdSpauldingSt. Andrew'sSaginaw CitySt. Charles Twp Cemetery1 & 2St. CharlesSt. Elizabeth's CemeteryBlumfieldSt. Mary's CemeteryAlbeeSt. Mary's CemeterySt. CharlesSt. Michael CatholicBradyStrobelSwan CreekTaymouthTaymouthVasoldTittabawasseeZiegler (West Albee Twp)Albee > > > > Census, Bios, Obits, Cemetery, Church, & Vet Photos, Platt & Cemetery Maps, Citizens, Vets, and Poll List - Visit the Saginaw County Photograph Website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~evansandobertein/saginaw.htm > > > Census, Bios, Obits, Cemetery, Church, & Vet Photos, Platt & Cemetery Maps, Citizens, Vets, and Poll List - Visit the Saginaw County Photograph Website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~evansandobertein/saginaw.htm

I'm not sure where I left off with cemeteries that have been photographed so here is the list. Most of them are complete: CemeteryTownshipAssumption BVMBridgeportBirch RunBirch RunBlumfield CemeteryBlumfieldBrant Cemetery 1 & 2 BrantBuena VistaBuena VistaCalvary Cemetery A-L M-ZCity of SaginawChippewa Indian Cemetery 1 & 2AlbeeForest LawnSaginaw CityGarfield Cemetery 1Swan CreekGarfield Cemetery 2Swan CreekGriffths CemeteryBradyIsmund CemeteryBradyJansen CemeteryBlumfieldKochville Methodist CemeteryKochvilleLakefieldLakefieldMt. OlivetSpauldingOak GroveBridgeportOak GroveBradyOakley CemeteryBradyOakwoodSaginaw CityOlive Branch Methodist CemeteryBridgeportOwen CemeteryThomasPinegroveBridgeportRidge RdBradyRiversideSt. CharlesRoselawnSaginaw CitySpaulding Cole RdSpauldingSt. Andrew'sSaginaw CitySt. Charles Twp Cemetery1 & 2St. CharlesSt. Elizabeth's CemeteryBlumfieldSt. Mary's CemeteryAlbeeSt. Mary's CemeterySt. CharlesSt. Michael CatholicBradyStrobelSwan CreekTaymouthTaymouthVasoldTittabawasseeZiegler (West Albee Twp)Albee Census, Bios, Obits, Cemetery, Church, & Vet Photos, Platt & Cemetery Maps, Citizens, Vets, and Poll List - Visit the Saginaw County Photograph Website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~evansandobertein/saginaw.htm

Part of the headstone photos for Blumfield Twp. Cemetery are online. Vasold Cemetery is also online. I have added maps for the following cemeteries: Buena Vista Twp. CemeteryChippewas Indian CemeterZeigler/Albee Twp West CemeterySt. Mary's Cemetery More to come soon. Good LuckCarolyn Census, Bios, Obits, Cemetery, Church, & Vet Photos, Platt & Cemetery Maps, Citizens, Vets, and Poll List - Visit the Saginaw County Photograph Website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~evansandobertein/saginaw.htm

Thank you Carolyn, You are doing so many good things for us! I love the St. Cecelia's Site and like very much the idea of displaying the churches where our ancestors worshipped. This is further incentive to invest in a digital camera and a scanner. Thanks. CHC >From: Carolyn Obertein <carolinsaginaw@prodigy.net> >Reply-To: MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com >To: MISAGINA-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [MISAGINA] Saginaw Co. Photo Website >Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 18:54:28 -0700 (PDT) > >I have added the headstone photos for Vasold Cemetery and a section of the >Birch Run Cemetery. I will be adding a map with directions to each >cemetery. See Vasold Cemetery as an example. It will take a bit but all >cemeteries will have a map. I am also looking for more volunteers to >photograph cemeteries or sections of cemeteries. Our volunteers have been >doing a great job and please be sure to thank all of them for their hard >efforts. You can see the volunteers on the "List of Cemeteries to be >photographed" section on the site. If your looking for a form of exercise >you will get some photographing a cemetery. Lots of walking, bending, etc. >and in some beautiful, peaceful settings.I am also looking for volunteers >that would be willing to photograph churches in their neighborhood. Just a >quick photo of the outside is all that is needed. If you have inside >photos we can add them also. Please view a church and cemetery that I have >photographed in New York to see what we co! >uld do on the website. But I would need help to do this. The project of >St. Cecilia's Church and Cemetery took alot of work. >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~evansandobertein/stcecilias/stceceliasouthcem.htm >Carolyn > > >Census, Bios, Obits, Cemetery, Church, & Vet Photos, Platt & Cemetery Maps, >Citizens, Vets, and Poll List - Visit the Saginaw County Photograph >Website: >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~evansandobertein/saginaw.htm > _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

I have records that say my grandfather H. Earle Fliegel was the first to enlist in WW1 from Saginaw..and a picture of him receiving war bond payments forty some years later. I have pictures of him on a horse, and from his unit, and in uniform. I am fortunate to have these pictures. Jody Fliegel Riddick Sarasota

Hi Jody,If you would email the photos and info I would love to do a special page on him for the Saginaw Co. Photo website.Carolyn RiddickJ@aol.com wrote:I have records that say my grandfather H. Earle Fliegel was the first to enlist in WW1 from Saginaw..and a picture of him receiving war bond payments forty some years later. I have pictures of him on a horse, and from his unit, and in uniform. I am fortunate to have these pictures. Jody Fliegel Riddick Sarasota Census, Bios, Obits, Cemetery, Church, & Vet Photos, Platt & Cemetery Maps, Citizens, Vets, and Poll List - Visit the Saginaw County Photograph Website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~evansandobertein/saginaw.htm

I have added the headstone photos for Vasold Cemetery and a section of the Birch Run Cemetery. I will be adding a map with directions to each cemetery. See Vasold Cemetery as an example. It will take a bit but all cemeteries will have a map. I am also looking for more volunteers to photograph cemeteries or sections of cemeteries. Our volunteers have been doing a great job and please be sure to thank all of them for their hard efforts. You can see the volunteers on the "List of Cemeteries to be photographed" section on the site. If your looking for a form of exercise you will get some photographing a cemetery. Lots of walking, bending, etc. and in some beautiful, peaceful settings.I am also looking for volunteers that would be willing to photograph churches in their neighborhood. Just a quick photo of the outside is all that is needed. If you have inside photos we can add them also. Please view a church and cemetery that I have photographed in New York to see what we co! uld do on the website. But I would need help to do this. The project of St. Cecilia's Church and Cemetery took alot of work. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~evansandobertein/stcecilias/stceceliasouthcem.htm Carolyn Census, Bios, Obits, Cemetery, Church, & Vet Photos, Platt & Cemetery Maps, Citizens, Vets, and Poll List - Visit the Saginaw County Photograph Website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~evansandobertein/saginaw.htm

It is located on Airport road between Holland(M-46) and Hess Road. Airport road is about 2 miles east of I-75, take a right and you should be able to find it, Hess road would be the first road south of Holland so its only a 1 mile search. Pat Jerolyn@aol.com wrote: >Does anyone know where the Buena Vista Township Cemetery is located? I would >like to visit it, but have been unable to locate it on a map. The >photographs are online, but there is no address given. > >Thanks, Carolyn > > > >

Does anyone know where the Buena Vista Township Cemetery is located? I would like to visit it, but have been unable to locate it on a map. The photographs are online, but there is no address given. Thanks, Carolyn

Thanks, Carol, for the reminer that Memorial Day is more than a three-day weekend to drink beer and BBQ. We should also remember those veterans who lived to return home, but suffer from memories of the horror of what they endured on the battlefield. These veterans seem forgotten by the government that they faithfully served and the citizens whose freedom they fought to protect.

Thanks Pat. I'll give them a call.

Say your request for info on John Able. This will now at least give you a death date. The Saginaw County Clerks office should have the death cert. which may give you the cemetery or contact the Saginaw Public Library for a copy of the following obit: Index: SAGINAW DAILY NEWS Sunday, August 26, 1934 (4) Name:ABLE, JOHNAge:54Date of Birth:00 / 00 / 1880Date of Death:Saturday, August 25, 1934 Place of Death: SAGINAW, MIMiscellaneousFuneral Home:INDEPENDENT Good Luck Carolyn Obertein Census, Bios, Obits, Cemetery, Church, & Vet Photos, Platt & Cemetery Maps, Citizens, Vets, and Poll List - Visit the Saginaw County Photograph Website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~evansandobertein/saginaw.htm