Here is a web site where you can order Michigan Birth, Death, Marriage and Divorce Records. <A HREF="http://www.mdch.state.mi.us/">Michigan Department of Community Health</A>

Try this site. http://www.classmates.com/p.tf/registration/ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [SMTP:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 9:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MISAGINA] Bliss Park I went to North Intermediate School and remember that when weather allowed, Mrs. Newburg took the girls' "gym" classes to Bliss Park to practice track events or play softball. And, yes, we had to wear those "lovely" green one-piece gym suits. Ugh! To be seen in public in those things was so embarrassing. It was especially mortifying when the boys "gym" class used the park at the same time (Mr. Newburg's class). Mary Sue

My Perry family was found in Saginaw in 1865. They were lumber inspectors. In the City Directory for Saginaw, they were working for E R Ayres & Co. I was wondering if there was any information on this company in the book listed above. Perhaps it might state who owned it. Sincerely, Bonnie

Hi Nancy. According to several e-mails I just now read Mr. Gross was indeed with the News. I did not know that. Mr. Carter did also do some historic buildings prints. And I do believe there was Carter Shop in the mall, but I think it is now gone, as is so much of the good memories of Saginaw. Elizabeth ---------- > From: Nancy Kubik <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MISAGINA] Re: Indians Jacks and Pines > Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 1:17 PM > > Thanks, Elizabeth. Was Stuart Gross connected with the Saginaw News? Did > Sam Carter also do the prints of old Saginaw homes? I have a collage of the > historic buildings, but it is not signed and I can't remember if he was the > artist. I remember the Carter Shop well! I believe they also had a small > shop in the mall for a while. > > Nancy > > Researching: Kubik, Postle and Barthel

I went to school with an Ann Kinney. She went to North and AHHS around 1962. I don't know if this is any relation. Jan

And Stuart Gross, the author, was a journalist who worked for the Saginaw News for many years. I knew his daughter, Amy, at Arthur Hill High School in the late 1950's. Mary Sue

This book was a take off from Frankie and the Baron. There are thoughts that it may have been somewhat autobiographical. It is a very good book about the lumber baron's in Saginaw in the 1800's. It is his last book. He died at the time it was going to print. Gross was the editor of the Saginaw News for 36 years. He also has a video that can be obtained from Zauel Library of him talking about Saginaw History at the Historical Society. Jan Johnson is the illustrator of THE SAGINAWS: When Timber Was King. It can be purchased through Amazon.com or Delta College. Sam Carter did own the Carter Shop. A person who has lots of his prints is the florist from Whitney Flowers on Michigan Ave in Saginaw. I have done some paintings and drawings of the Saginaw area also. Jan

Hi, I'm new to this list, but was on it a long time ago. I'm seeking information on several families that lived in Saginaw from the 1860's on. Any information would be greatly appreciated: They are: John Bluem (Bleum, Blum) family, arrived in Saginaw in 1862, from Germany/NY. John was employed as a cooper and also worked the last 20 years at Forest Lawn Cemetery. Wife was Mary Smith/Schmidt. They had 9 children, among them my gg mother, Mary. This family was from Germany, came to NY in 1852, came to Saginaw in 1862. Father John Schmidt found in early Saginaw deaths (1869) Dominick & Victorie Lafayette, (Lafeuillade) came to Saginaw in 1878-79 from Detroit area. They had 10 children, among them my gg father John (Jean Baptiste) who married Mary above. John and Mary had 8 children, among whom one (last I heard) is still living in Saginaw, Bernice Lafayette Ward. Vincent Dashner, Jr., wife Rose Lanphier/Lanthier They came to Saginaw in 1878 from Oswego, NY. He worked as a cooper at CH Cobb. They had 15 children. John Lea, wife Mary Louise Schneider John arrived in Saginaw in 1864, m. in 1873. He was from Germany, came with 3 brothers, names unknown. John was a laborer but is also listed as having been a foreman for the Saginaw Ice & Coal Co. John and Mary had 6 children. Mary Louise's f. was Georg F.Schneider from Germany and Mary Meyer from Germany. They came to Saginaw when Mary Louise was 5. I have found Georg on the 1870 census. I have found quite a lot about these families, have most obituaries, etc. but still have a lot of gaps, especially with Lea, the brothers of John etc. Anyone who might have any information on these names or any suggestions on looking further I would greatly appreciate it. I have no immigration or passenger information on any. The Lea family has been especially difficult. Thank you so much. A. J. Clark

Thanks, Elizabeth. Was Stuart Gross connected with the Saginaw News? Did Sam Carter also do the prints of old Saginaw homes? I have a collage of the historic buildings, but it is not signed and I can't remember if he was the artist. I remember the Carter Shop well! I believe they also had a small shop in the mall for a while. Nancy Researching: Kubik, Postle and Barthel

After reviewing a few of my old post cards I found pictures of the following buildings in Saginaw: Do you remember? * The furniture store on Genesee and Lapeer: John Smelzer Furniture, in 1906 the dirt street has horse and buggies in front of the store. In a 1916 photo, the paved streets has a trolley car and automobiles with no windows. Other buildings in the post card include: Dreamland, Moss Reality, and Hardrath Shop. Riverside Coal Mine, 1908 Old Court Street Bridge, 1911 Michigan Central Depot, 1908 Jeffers Park, 1911 Saginaw Daily News, 1911 Masonic Temple, 1909 Hotel Bancroft, Pere Marquette Station, Pavilion in Hoyt Park, Mershon Whitter Natatorium (Pool) East Saginaw High, 1919 Benjamin Franklin Hotel City Hall, 1904 Post Office & Hoyt Library Patricia

Do you have any of these on a website, or can you post them somewhere? I'd like to see them.

Hello Liz: I am sure that the Hoyt Library would have reference material naming the mayors from the past for Saginaw. If not there, then perhaps The Saginaw News. Here are both addresses. Elizabeth Saginaw News 203 S. Washington Ave. Saginaw MI 48607 Phone: 517-752-7171 Hoyt Public Library Reference Department 505 Janes St. Saginaw MI 48607 Phone: 517-755-0904 ---------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [MISAGINA] Mayoral records? > Date: Monday, March 12, 2001 10:23 PM > > Hey all - > > Does anyone have any ideas on how I could track down these two tidbits? > Allegedly, my great grandfather, JW Symons, was Saginaw's mayor sometime > prior to 1950, and about 1960 was inducted into some kind of agriculture hall > of fame. Michigan's agriculture office is not aware of what the modern name > of such a hall might be. > > Liz

Hello Nancy: The author of "Indians, Jacks and Pines" is Stuart D. Gross, and the illustrators are Ralph A. Misiak and Samuel Carter Jr. Mr. Carter I believe is from the family who owned The Carter Shop, a lady's dress shop at Court and Hamilton St. Elizabeth ---------- > From: Nancy Kubik <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MISAGINA] Re: Indians Jacks and Pines > Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 2:30 AM > > What is the author's given name? I suspect it could be a Carter who had a > clothing store on the west side. However, they could have been in shipping > prior to the store. > > Nancy Kubik - [email protected] > > Researching Kubik, Postle, and Barthel

What is the author's given name? I suspect it could be a Carter who had a clothing store on the west side. However, they could have been in shipping prior to the store. Nancy Kubik - [email protected] Researching Kubik, Postle, and Barthel

In a message dated 3/8/01 2:03:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Does anyone know the family of the illustrator of this book? Does he relate to the Carters who had the shipping line? Liz

Hey all - Does anyone have any ideas on how I could track down these two tidbits? Allegedly, my great grandfather, JW Symons, was Saginaw's mayor sometime prior to 1950, and about 1960 was inducted into some kind of agriculture hall of fame. Michigan's agriculture office is not aware of what the modern name of such a hall might be. Liz

Are you any relation to James CHAMBERS who married Catherine PERKINS around the mid 1800's or their son Edwin CHAMBERS? Catherine and James were married in Saginaw. Catherine was from Richland Twp. (Hemlock) Jan

Dear Karen, We have John MOORE and Isabella REDMOND who were my great grandparents. He was foreman of the saw mills and traveled around the state. Isabella was a midwife. Their son was Jess John MOORE b1899 who worked in the mills as a youngster and then became an Engineer on the railroad. He worked for Pere Marquette and then Chesapeake & Ohio Railroads. He worked on the Ludington to Saginaw and Saginaw to Ohio then in town in Saginaw. Is there any connection to your MOORE'S that you are researching. Jan

Thank you P. Hall, for the LDS Saginaw Death Index Film #. I asked the Saginaw Library to photocopy the obituaries that I found at their website, they said they could but it would take a long time, especially since I had a lot of them, and suggested I get the film from the LDS. Now I can order it, and do further research on my family. I am researching my grandmothers family (Alexander) that settled in Saginaw in the year 1900. Don Roberts Royal Oak, MI. [email protected] wrote: > > Subject: > > MISAGINA-D Digest Volume 01 : Issue 29 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [MISAGINA] ALLORE [Judy Ardine <[email protected]>] > #2 [MISAGINA] Holland/Genesee Restaur [Judy Ardine <[email protected]>] > #3 Re: [MISAGINA] ALLORE [[email protected]] > #4 Re: [MISAGINA] Holland/Genesee Res [[email protected]] > #5 [MISAGINA] MISAGINA-D Riverside Ho [<[email protected]>] > #6 Re: [MISAGINA] MISAGINA-D Riversid ["d beauchamp" <[email protected]] > #7 [MISAGINA] Saginaw County Death In [[email protected]] > #8 Re: [MISAGINA] Saginaw County Deat ["Gale Hanson" <[email protected]] > #9 Re: [MISAGINA] Saginaw County Deat [Sharon Hensler <[email protected]] > #10 Re: [MISAGINA] Saginaw County Deat [[email protected]] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from MISAGINA-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [MISAGINA] ALLORE > Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 04:56:14 -0500 > From: Judy Ardine <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > I remember a Carol or Carolyn ALLORE. The late 1950's, she had a buckskin > mare she called Honda d'Oro that she kept at a stable at the corner of > Center and McCarty Roads. We were AHHS teens at the time. They are putting > in a subdivision now where that stable was. More's the pity. The best farm > land in the state of Michigan turning into malls, paved parking lots and > subdivisions of ugly, pretentious houses. At least the old Golfside had a > lot of large attractive homes, keyword being attractive - and tasteful. > Every Christmas we had to make the slow meandering drive thru Golfside to > see the Christmas lighting on the houses there. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [MISAGINA] Holland/Genesee Restaurant > Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 05:00:54 -0500 > From: Judy Ardine <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > That was Ramond's! We had many a hot roast beef or hot turkey sandwich > dinner there after a night of dancing at the Old Apple Orchard. I'm > surprised I haven't seen more memories of the old Apple Orcherd. It was an > institution for years. You could always count on the Orchard for some good > dance music. My mom met my step-dad there and they spent MANY good years > together and many good years at the Orchard. As did their daughter! > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [MISAGINA] ALLORE > Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:49:20 EST > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > I guess the reason I asked about Frankie Allore is because you also mentioned > Crow Island and it seems to me that Frankie lived there as a kid. > Margaret > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [MISAGINA] Holland/Genesee Restaurant > Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:51:33 EST > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > My sister went to the Apple Orchard all the time...she loved it. > I was only there a couple times myself. > Did you know that it burned down some years back > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [MISAGINA] MISAGINA-D Riverside Houseboats? DOUGHTY/MOORES/HUBBARD > Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 14:25:09 -0500 > From: <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > I'm interested in knowing more about Riverside Park. My grandmother's > family had a houseboat there. I don't know much more than that. Thomas E. > Doughty also had an early motorboat on the river. > > I know my grandfather Joseph HUBBARD roller skated at Riverside. > > Has anyone every heard of T.E. DOUGHTY Jewelry and Books in East Saginaw? > > The memories have been wonderful at bringing history to life. Thank you. > Karen > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [MISAGINA] MISAGINA-D Riverside Houseboats? DOUGHTY/MOORES/HUBBARD > Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 14:40:23 -0800 > From: "d beauchamp" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > They have a postcard on ebay right now,showing a part of river side park if > you want to see a little part of it,they also have some old Arthur hill year > books on auction there too,If you go to ebay put Saginaw Michigan into the > search and then press search,I live in Tenn now,but lived at Andre an Monroe > when I was kid in the 60s,I have gotten some nice postcards of Saginaw off > ebay,Ive got one of anderson pool,the water works and a few other nice > ones.I lived around the Grahams and the Riedlingers just to name a couple,my > name was Chambers back then.I walked to Herig School and later went to North > and Arthur hill. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 11:25 AM > Subject: [MISAGINA] MISAGINA-D Riverside Houseboats? DOUGHTY/MOORES/HUBBARD > > > I'm interested in knowing more about Riverside Park. My grandmother's > > family had a houseboat there. I don't know much more than that. Thomas E. > > Doughty also had an early motorboat on the river. > > > > I know my grandfather Joseph HUBBARD roller skated at Riverside. > > > > Has anyone every heard of T.E. DOUGHTY Jewelry and Books in East Saginaw? > > > > The memories have been wonderful at bringing history to life. Thank you. > > Karen > > > > > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [MISAGINA] Saginaw County Death Index > Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:54:50 EST > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > Hello all, > I have recently read the above Death Index and have found an entry for > Peter V. Gonyea that I would like to research further. Have any of you made > use of this Index in the past? Can I contact the courthouse in Saginaw and > ask for a copy of the death certificate with just the book and page number? > Thanks for your help. > Pat Hall > Bloomfield Hills > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [MISAGINA] Saginaw County Death Index > Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:00:40 -0600 > From: "Gale Hanson" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Can you acess the death index on-line? > > Gale > Ocean Springs, MS > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 3:54 PM > Subject: [MISAGINA] Saginaw County Death Index > > > Hello all, > > I have recently read the above Death Index and have found an entry for > > Peter V. Gonyea that I would like to research further. Have any of you > made > > use of this Index in the past? Can I contact the courthouse in Saginaw > and > > ask for a copy of the death certificate with just the book and page > number? > > Thanks for your help. > > Pat Hall > > Bloomfield Hills > > > > > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [MISAGINA] Saginaw County Death Index > Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 22:19:31 -0500 > From: Sharon Hensler <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Where did you read the "above Death Index" Thanks in advance. Sharon > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > Hello all, > > I have recently read the above Death Index and have found an entry for > > Peter V. Gonyea that I would like to research further. Have any of you made > > use of this Index in the past? Can I contact the courthouse in Saginaw and > > ask for a copy of the death certificate with just the book and page number? > > Thanks for your help. > > Pat Hall > > Bloomfield Hills > > -- > researching: Armstrong, Braatz, Brandt, Cramer, Davis, Hensler, > Knippel, McCray, Palmer, Shields, Thomason & Yahn > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [MISAGINA] Saginaw County Death Index > Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 22:54:58 EST > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > The Saginaw County Death Index is on microfilm at any LDS Family History > Center: #0967172. I believe the Hoyt LIbrary in Saginaw also has a copy of > the same. > P. Hall

If SKS has time would they please take at look at the Saginaw Police patch at: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1120278403 and let me know if it is one currently used or an old style? Thanks Sue D. Sue Crowder Kissel 3299 Rose Lane Prescott AZ 86305 [email protected]