I agree with you 100% Al ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 1:26 AM Subject: Re: [MISAGINA] Misuse of the List > Perhaps it would be wise to ask the listowner his/her opinion on the > contents of the list in accordance with the rulings of Rootsweb and its > original intent. Once upon a time, a few years back, I was taken off a list > by the listowner because I mistakenly sent an answer (message) to the list > instead of a fellow researcher who was making a request about her surnames. I > goofed again when I sent an apology to the listowner on the list again--(I > hit the wrong button so to speak!) for everyone to read but she refused to > accept my apology and removed me from the list. Eventually, there were so > many complaints about the listowner in support of me, that she was cancelled > instead of the list ! The list has been reinstated with a new owner and I > am back on it again.. That isn't the point, however. > The point is that I enjoy doing research for others that pop up on the > Saginaw list when I can. I would hate to see this list disappear. I would, > almost, rather see two lists if necessary, instead. Then we can pick and > choose. Thank you for letting me add my two cents... > What do you think listowner??? > > maprout > >

Hi All, I hope you are all having a pleasant Sunday morning. Please no replies to the list regarding agreeing or disagreeing with my views in this email. If you hit REPLY it automatically replies to the list. I realize that much mail has been generated that last few days. This has also been a "good"list. This list is for discussion of the history of Saginaw County, Michigan, and the genealogy of Saginaw County families. The history of the area and/or "old memories" are much the same. Personal replies should not go to the list. It is also not a good idea to post addresses and phone numbers to the list as the list is archived. It does help to have a subject matter, so please be thoughtful. Knowing the history and migration patterns into the county are helpful. I have very few rules. 1. Please don't flame anyone on the list. Personal attacks on other list members are also unwelcome. Your email address will be removed. 2. Please do not submit virus alerts, chain letters, or ads to the list. Don't send copies of copyrighted material. 3. If someone else violates these rules, please do not send their message back to this list! That just magnifies the problem, and defeats our anti-Spam defenses at Rootsweb. 4. All complaints should be always directed to me at [email protected] How to unsubscribe. Send a message to [email protected] that contains (in the body of the message) the command unsubscribe and no additional text. To subscribe in the digest mode send a message to [email protected] that contains (in the body of the message) the command subscribe and no additional text. Thanks Lesley List administrator

It seems I've stirred up a hornets nest which wasn't my intention. My point was, when a discussion get's started it leads to two or three people e-mailing each other through the list on a more personal basis. I've read things like how good ice cream taste at such and such a place, to who dated who. I personally think these type of messages should be between the e-mailing parties and not the whole list. Then if in your discussions you think there may be something of any genealogical value about a person, place or event concerning Saginaw, then it should be posted on the list. I myself wouldn't pick up a letter and read it sent by snail mail to any of you, therefore I don't think I need them to see or read them on the list either. I grew up 10 miles south west of Saginaw and have been in Saginaw county all my life and yes I like reading your messages about Saginaw then and now. But when a subject gets started and it drags on for a week or more then it gets a little boring. Hopefully this will end the discussion of my complaint and we can get back to genealogy and all have a good time. If any of you'd like to reply to this let's not clog up the list again, please e-mail me privately. Duane Miller Merrill, MI [email protected]

Hoyt Park is where the fire works used to be and they are now held by Ojibiway Island

This message is in response to the comment made by Arnold on Fidalgo Island near LaConner, WA. I guess I thought this list was for genealogy messages also. Glad I never posted a message here as I was planning to. If I had knew this was only for personal and reminiscing messages, I never would have signed up for this list. Guess I will wait and see what the listowner might have to say in regards to this before I go off the list. Arnold, I think the way you handled yourself in this situation was very uncalled for and actually kinda rude. I think you could have said what you had to say in a much nicer way. Tammy Lang, Midland Michigan

Perhaps it would be wise to ask the listowner his/her opinion on the contents of the list in accordance with the rulings of Rootsweb and its original intent. Once upon a time, a few years back, I was taken off a list by the listowner because I mistakenly sent an answer (message) to the list instead of a fellow researcher who was making a request about her surnames. I goofed again when I sent an apology to the listowner on the list again--(I hit the wrong button so to speak!) for everyone to read but she refused to accept my apology and removed me from the list. Eventually, there were so many complaints about the listowner in support of me, that she was cancelled instead of the list ! The list has been reinstated with a new owner and I am back on it again.. That isn't the point, however. The point is that I enjoy doing research for others that pop up on the Saginaw list when I can. I would hate to see this list disappear. I would, almost, rather see two lists if necessary, instead. Then we can pick and choose. Thank you for letting me add my two cents... What do you think listowner??? maprout

I thought the last time this kind of thread (over 262 spars and responses - in case anyone had counted) happened a list was made on Yahoo or somewhere...

Here we go again....

In answer to the "nostalgia"....."Pure genealogy" might end up being a list of questions only, so the nostalgia adds a little something to the site.....I like both.

At 02:49 PM 6/30/01 -0400, you wrote: >There were Hearns that were farmers in eastern Gratiot County S.W, of >Merrill Mi. Al Galloway Al, What are you thinking of. Writing a genealogy message on this list. Don't you know this list is reserved for those who want to send personal and reminiscing messages to one another? I have a notion to turn you in to Rootsweb. Rootsweb will take away sponsorship of the list if people don't stop breaking the rules. We wouldn't want to loose our list. So, lets all clean up our act and avoid putting these noxious genealogy messages on this list. Arnold on Fidalgo Island near LaConner, WA

There were Hearns that were farmers in eastern Gratiot County S.W, of Merrill Mi. Al Galloway ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 10:20 AM Subject: [MISAGINA] Re: MISAGINA-D Digest V01 #104 > my two cents...please > > Though I dont live in Saginaw any more.....I LOVE reading about all the old > places....though I tend to be a little younger than the Strand and Daniels > Den. Any 40 somethings out there remember Hidden Hollow? > > I am still searching for any information on the HEARN family. Great > grandmother's family, may have owned a business in the Saginaw City area in > the early 1900's. > > Also, anywhere out there remember Harry "Tom" Woods.....my grandfather, still > looking into his origins....died very young.....in 1957. Also, his father > Miller Woods (Harry and TOm were also mentioned with his name) > > THanks for all of your memories! > Kim Woods Brennan > Eisenhower 1976 > >

Dear Kim, Do you remember the band COUTURE that played at Hidden Hollow? That was my brother, Jim Gilson, who was the lead singer. Joe Ortega was drummer, Brian Rambulski was guitarist with another Brian on guitar. Great sound and lots of fun. Jan

my two cents...please Though I dont live in Saginaw any more.....I LOVE reading about all the old places....though I tend to be a little younger than the Strand and Daniels Den. Any 40 somethings out there remember Hidden Hollow? I am still searching for any information on the HEARN family. Great grandmother's family, may have owned a business in the Saginaw City area in the early 1900's. Also, anywhere out there remember Harry "Tom" Woods.....my grandfather, still looking into his origins....died very young.....in 1957. Also, his father Miller Woods (Harry and TOm were also mentioned with his name) THanks for all of your memories! Kim Woods Brennan Eisenhower 1976

Janet, When I lived in Saginaw the fireworks on 4th of July were at Hoyt Park, which I believe is named after Jesse Hoyt. That area was already called Hoyt's Park in the 1896 Saginaw County Atlas. Hoyt was dead by that time but his estate still owned a lot of property in Saginaw. Mary Sue

What was the name of the park where the 4th of july fireworks celebration was held? Who was this park named after? Janet

Does anyone on the list have relatives from the St. Charles area. My great grandfather had a livery there - George McCrory and also the Brownell General Store is family. I am interested in any info you can give me about that area. I also am very interested in finding out when my grandmother's sister Jenni Myrtle McCrory Whipple died, I believe, young. She was born May 10, 1871, and married Frederich Charles Whipple Feb. 22, 1892. A daughter Ruth was born Mar. 1893. I have tried all the obit sights with no luck. Thank you, Margaret ([email protected])

Dear Maria, I am excerpting a piece from "The History of Saginaw County" found at the Hoyt Library in Saginaw...foolishly, I did not make proper notes for author and date of publication. "JACKSON-CHURCH-WILCOX COMPANY, Division of General Motors. In the new, modern plant of the Jackson-Church-Wilcox Company, division of General Motors, Saginaw has a vaulable acquistion to its manufactures...The original company was incorporated on April 21, 1906, by John L. Jackson, Edgar D. Church and Melvin L. Wilcox...The machine shop was first located in a two-story building at Hamilton and Madison Streets, formerly occupied by the Saginaw Street Railway, but which was then a part of the Jackson & Church plant...Not long after the shop was running smoothly, making essential parts for some of the leading automobiles, the attention of the company was directed to a radical improvement in steering gears, a patented device by which the ideal condition of driving was obtained. The company begin making the new gears on a small scale, and soon proved the practical utility of the device. Afterward, when manufacture was largely increased, the company purchased the patent rights and gave to the improved gear the trade name of "Jacox", derived from the names of the incorporators...In 1909,...a site for new shops was purchased at Hamilton, Monroe and Niagara Streets. A new plant of the most modern construction was here erected and equipped with new automatic machinery, the most part for the manufacture of "Jacox" gears. Their largest customer was the Buick Motor Company, of Flint, whose requirements were constantly increasing and assuming mammoth proportions. In order to control the entire output of the new plant, and expand the business to meet its future needs, the Buick Company bought the entire property of the Jackson-Church-Wilcox Company, including its patents and good will. The transfer was duly made, and on January 20, 1910, was held the first meeting of directors of the controlling interests -- the General Motors Company..." My great-grandfather, James McGregor, Jr., sold his family's boilermaking business to E. D. Church in 1899, and the firm was an intergal part of the original "Jaycox" corporation. Pat Hall Plymouth, Minnesota

I just want to add another 2 cents to the discussion. I agree that such talk can be very valuable in triggering memories that can be very productive. I very much enjoyed the nostalgic reminisce about A&W. I also agree that being able to put some "meat" on the dry birth/death statistics allows us more of feel for the time our ancestor lived. Our ancestor's larger lives are genealogy. Pat

Gene, I don't know these individuals, but my family is from Chesaning, Saginaw County. Ron Carlton 1330 MacArthur Drive, Apt. 1404 Carrollton, Texas 75007 [email protected] http://home.flash.net/~rcarlton/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Gene dsl [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 11:43 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [MISAGINA] Crosier Colton > > > Does anyone remember Crosier and his wife Emma Carlton? They > lived in East Saginaw around 1880-1930. They had two girls, > Louise and Bessie. If you know of anyone you might have some > knowledge of them, please let me know. > Thanks, > Gene Carleton > Dallas, Texas >

Does anyone in Saginaw remember having a relative or neighbor who worked at the Jacox foundry in 1918-1919? I believe that my dad, George Blake, worked there during that time. Since I cannot find anyone who knew him, I thought I would at least try to learn what the plant and Saginaw were like at that time. You can email me personally at [email protected] Would love to hear the stories you heard about that time and that place. Sincerely, Maria [email protected] wrote: > > This list stays quiet for days and when someone asks where someplace is it > comes to life again. Maybe in remembering the past it might trigger a memory > of an ancestor long forgotten this is how it relates to genealogy. > Janet